Editorial Roundup: Canadian Papers Weigh in on Montreal Rampage

Editorial Roundup: Canadian Papers Weigh in on Montreal Rampage

September 17, 2006
As the smoke begins to clear on last week's school shooting at Montreal's Dawson College, Canadian media pundits are offering opinions on the relationship between violent video games and the rampage. In the Calgary Sun, columnist Licia Corbella writes:

"You are what you eat. Garbage in, garbage out... if you consume violence, you will be violent... Kimveer Gill practiced what he preached... He acted out on the music he listened to, the games he played... His favourite video game was Super Columbine Massacre RPG..." "In a fascinating, if not utterly maddening interview... (Super Columbine designer Danny) Ledonne calls his disgraceful, exploitative game 'art' and 'social commentary' ...That someone who would create a 'game' so cruel, insensitive and immoral can then speak of morals is galling and hypocritical in the extreme."

"Is Ledonne partly responsible for Wednesday's mayhem? Legally, no. But what about morally?"

"A different viewpoint, also in the Calgary Sun, is expressed by game writer Steve Tilley:

"To many people born before 1970, video games are as foreign and frightening as German opera... when I see video games fingered as the cause of real-world violence, I sigh and shake my head...""I have played every violent game named in (Kimveer Gill's blog), including Super Columbine Massacre... Some of them I've enjoyed greatly... Others I recognize as puerile, offensive time-wasters... But none of them have given me the desire to do harm to anyone, anywhere, ever."

"I'm the rule, not the exception. Kimveer Gill was the exception. Harris and Klebold were the exceptions. So go ahead, ban all hyper-violent video games on the off chance they might fall into the hands of someone already predisposed to do harm. Then ban the ones that involve any sort of gunplay. After that, just to be safe, ban any games that don't star fluffy pink bunnies."

"Then we can move on to violent movies (so long, Goodfellas), television (seeya, 24) and even books. What a safe, wonderful and tragedy-free world it will be then..."

"Journalist Mike Strobel weighs in with:

"...How many times must a video game turn up as evidence at a crime scene before we wake up? "Dawson College is the latest. Killer Kimveer Gill was a fan of Super Columbine Massacre, a lovely bit of Internet fun... What does Tahir Khan have in common with Dawson College, you ask? ...(in 2005) he was dead, his taxi crushed by a Mercedes allegedly engaged in a street race. Cops found the video game Need For Speed in the wreckage. A court will decide if it played a role."

"...Alabama, where Devin Moore, 18, slew three troopers after being pulled over in a stolen car. "Life is like a video game," he said later. "You've got to die sometime." Huh? Wait a minute! That's what Kimveer Gill used to say. Only, young Devin's game of choice was Grand Theft Auto."

"Remember Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold? ...They played Doom, Redneck Rampage and Duke Nukem. Hmm, do you think video games had anything to do with that slaughter? Or the new one in Montreal?"

"...As a newspaper man, I cringe at talk of censorship. But free speech has limits. Otherwise, Nazis would flourish anew. Racists. Snuff films. When New Zealand and Australia banned Manhunt, those nations did not fall into the sea..."

"In the Waterloo Record, Michael Redfearn writes:

"...to blame this madness on video games like Super Massacre at Columbine, heavy metal music, goth culture or warped websites -- as morally depraved as they all may be -- is to miss the point. These pop culture villains... do not even begin to explain the complexity of the underlying causes of such mind-boggling, anti-social behaviour... This human tendency to identify easy targets, find simplistic answers and avoid personal responsibility at all costs will no doubt continue....Yet rather than focus on meaningful intervention strategies to assist alienated youth in their struggle for acceptance, which takes time, effort and resources, it's easier to point accusing fingers at familiar targets..."
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Violent people like to play violent videogames. Get over it.

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Posted 11/07/09 at 04:18pm
beemoh: @Zip: ...and you'd have to spend all that time re-downloading that porn?
Posted 11/07/09 at 03:34pm
ZippyDSMlee: ggrrrrr......vista lost one of my hard drives and I had a heart attack thinking I lost 1TB of data....
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:58am
JDKJ: Which could be explained by both (a) and (b).
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:56am
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: You forgot C) the fact that, for some reason, every time he did something that would suggest he shouldn't be in the military, let alone an officer, higher ups ignored it or let it slide.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:51am
JDKJ: Part of the problem is, I believe, that (a) the Army had a lot of time and money already invested in him and which they were unwilling to simply write-off and (b) an increasing need for the type of skills and services he provided.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:48am
JDKJ: And that even if he was begging not to get cut loose, he was apparently a real good candidate for being cut loose, anyway.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:11am
JDKJ: @chada: And while Kennedy once noted that there's usually more than enough blame for everyone to get a slice, the possibility that the Army was unwilling to cut loose someone who was asking to get cut loose could be a factor.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:07am
ZippyDSMlee: *noms on his feet*..nomnomnomnom*droooll* ...wuuutttttt uuu looking at?
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:05am
JDKJ: I'm no psychologist, but I'm told that crazy people have a tendency to do crazy things.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:03am
chadachada321: Whoops, was out of the convo for awhile. I do wonder what type of ammo he used etc, but the real issue is WHY he did it, not HOW
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:56am
JDKJ: But if it turns out that they actually did, they'll have Hell to pay.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:45am
JDKJ: And I'd tend to rule out the possibilty of FN Herstal supplying restricted ammunition to someone merely because they're ordering it from a military base.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:37am
JDKJ: I know you don't leave your gated community and get around much in dark alleys, so you may be surprised to learn that there's this thing called "the black market" where, if you've got enough money, ain't too much of anything which can't be bought.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:36am
Austin_Lewis: Or, maybe he or someone else at the base ordered the SS190 from FN Herstal.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:32am
Austin_Lewis: the hands of private owners. They run about 300 dollars minimum for a box of 50, and boxes of AP 5.7 are extremely scarce, mainly residing in the hands of Class III stores or individuals who for one reason or another got a demo box of it.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:30am
Austin_Lewis: There are other firearms that fire the 5.7. However, I too would like to know where he got the ammo and what kind was used. Maybe Hasan, planning not to live through this, went out and bought one the boxes of SS190 that are floating around in
Posted 11/07/09 at 08:44am
JDKJ: And it isn't yet clear what type of ammunition Hasan used. It's strange that he purchased a gun but didn't purchase ammunition for it at the same place and time. Especially because the calibre required is peculiar to the actual gun.
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