Destructoid Scores Big with "Bully" Courtroom Coverage

October 12, 2006 -
Props to sometimes-zany gaming site Destructoid for their man-on-the-scene coverage of yesterday's Bully hearing in Miami.

Reporter Niero took in the entire proceeding and posted his thoughts - including several updates - into the evening. A detailed version is now available on the site.

Sometimes, of course, such coverage is a random affair. It comes down to whether an outlet has somebody local enough to get to the story. But that's only half the battle. Niero not only got there, he rendered a balanced, entertaining and highly-detailed report.

We also were impressed that he popped 'round to GP and posted a few comments for the readers.

 

Comments

Excuse me Mr. Lowenstien, why do things cost money? Why aren't they free like I think they should be? Why isn't the PS3 as cheap as the Neo Geo?




....What do you mean it costs just as much without even adjusting for inflation?

Now if Jack could talk to us in the same mostly polite manner that he talked with Niero, even if he's mentally cursing us, I don't think he would be seen as such a bad person. I mean here he is talking with someone who is obviously a gamer and he's being pretty much polite. Niero even felt "comfortable" talking with him as if he just another random person. True, Jack was probably putting on a formal polite act of sorts, which we have all seen before when other press and influential people were involved, but if he could talk with us in the same manner, regardless of whether or not he truely felt like being nice, he'd probably come off as a level-headed, decent person.

Why is Jack so suprised about not getting an advance version of the game? Doesn't he realize he is a nobody? Doesn't he realize his say on whether the game is violent means just as much as any other schlub off the streets? When does this man think that he gets to decide just what I spend my hard earned money on. I'll not have my free speech be "Jack Approved".

GP, thanks so much for this. I couldn't have predicted it. Who knew? In a letter to him I wrote:

"You know, as a gamer I've been taught to think of you as the devil, but it was actually a pleasure meeting you." -- and he responded in turn. He also actually ok'd that charicature on the site we posted of Jack vs. Bully.

Strange days have found us.

Niero, I'm still amazed that he had a civil conversation with you. God knows we've tried that so many times here to no success. Of course, as SlyFox mentioned he can be polite and civil when he has to be. He's not going to go on a rant and equate you to the Hitler Youth in front of the media.

I wonder if the conversation would have been any different if you were wearing a Pixelante shirt.

Jack... Actually acting like a grown man and competent human being... Whaaa?

I was admittedly critical of the robot head stunt with Doug Lowenstein (though it was funny) I just wanted to drop a line here and say how much the write-up is appreciated. It's good to have someone observing the process and letting everyone know what's happening.

This was an entertaining read, too, so good work, Niero.

Thompson not acting err how should I put this delusional senial etc. Hmm maybe he's changed, maybe he's realised his previous tactics weren't working, or . . . I don't know. His motive against the game was that it 'teahces" kids to retaliate agianst bullies even more violently. You know that actually doesn't sound as crazy or as stupid as I thought his motive would be and I can see his point. I don't think it will resort to gang-like status though.

@Father Time -- the thing is if Thomson could show that same type of maturity when he came on to sites like this and Joystiq, I would say MOST of the people here would have responded more positively to him and maybe we could have had an open debate on these topics. Instead he'd fly in here with insults, racism and tired rhetoric (i.e. a typical internet troll).

It just goes to show that the "anonymity" of the internet can lead people to write crazy things because the people you're aiming the insults at can't punch you through the computer screen. Jack won't use the same type of language in person because it's much more difficult to do so when the person you're aiming invectives at is standing right in front of you.

In my tenure as a blogger, i've had the dubious pleasure of speaking to Jack a couple of times, via phone or email.... During our phone conversations, he tends to be very charismatic and even delves into the realm of self depricating humor (suprised the hell out of me). I came away from our little interview thinking "Wow, this guy isn't actually that bad and he makes a very valid point"

Over email though, totally different story.

As you said, Niero - Strange days are upon us

I was also struck by how civil JT was in Niero's piece, and also wondered why he never bothered to address us in an equally civil manner. Those of us here like myself who are in their 30's are insulted when he calls us "Junior." For the record, I'm a responsible, taxpaying citizen, so it raises my hackles when he thinks of us in this way. Like others have said, the level of hatred we feel towards him wouldn't exist if he came across as more polite and civil as he did there.

It could be that, like some people his age, he probably just doesn't "get" the internet, its discourse or what it's all about any more than he does games. It's human nature to abhor what we don't understand, and this could be another example.

That having been said, regardless of how he behaved there, it still does not excuse all of the other awful things he's said in the past. And the fact remains that he's still someone who insists forcing their moral views and religion down other people's throats.

So he's not so much against Bully's violence than he is against its theme of "getting even." I believe he also made a statement at some point in the recent past where he argued to the effect that if you're being bullied, it's better to take it than to fight back.

Personally, I see nothing wrong with fighting back at all. Sometimes getting even is the only option, and preferable to being bullied. It's better to stand and fight than to keep running all the time and live in fear. Even if you get your ass kicked, you'll still have shown that you weren't one to just sit there and take it. If it's because he subscribes to "turning the other cheek," well, I've always believed that was bull. I don't condone Satanism, but Anton LaVey had a point when he said if you do that, all that will end up happening is that you'll "run out of cheeks."

I summation, whether he comes across a a jerk or not, he's still an old man who just doesn't get it.

I completely agree with BlackManta. I'm really surprised that so many of us are thinking that his civility to Niero was actually sincere. He was in a goddamned COURTROOM, people, with other folks in the same room. Of course he's not going to lambast Niero in that setting! Have we all forgotten what a prick this guy's been for years? Is one polite conversation all it takes for people to go, "Wow, maybe he's not so bad after all!" Jack Thompson is and always has been extremely agenda-driven, and has repeatedly shown he's not above manipulating people.

Don't fall for his act, guys and dolls, especially you, Niero.

1) Who is this guy, and what has he done to the real Jack Thompson? Really, even considering the anonimity factor, it seems like a paradox becoming flesh and blood when Thompson is described like that. Something horrible is going to happen, brace for impact!
Speaking seriously now, one thing is a person that has a bad reputation because everyone says things about said person that might not be true. This is not the case with Jack at all, because we all know the insults he hurled at us, gamers. He just wore his sheep skin while he had to, but underneath, he's still the wolf. We don't have to buy this BS.

2) When it comes to bullying, if you don't fight back, they don't stop. The scars of bullying are permanent (or at least very dificult to get rid of). And that's not even considered. Protect the bullied students at all costs, not the bully. If it takes a few teeth out of him, so be it, he had it coming (and probably deserved worse, so he's lucky).

Statement: There were cameras there.
Result: Jack acts like a father-figure.

Did you really expect Jack to be discourteous to "some kid" in public. No. Then we would have made Niero get sympathy. Look, he's a lawyer - smiles and handshakes one minute and telling me to see a mental health professional the next.

I will say this: Well played, Jack, well played.

Mad props for the coverage Niero. I wish (almost) that a trial would hit Pittsburgh so could go there, but it will never happen.

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