"Bully" Case Document Dump...

"Bully" Case Document Dump...

October 13, 2006
GamePolitics received these documents from Jack Thompson this evening...

1.) Writ of Mandamus to force Take Two to hand Bully over to Thompson and to hold what Thompson refers to as a "fair hearing"

2.) a second motion to compel the game to be turned over to Thompson

3.) an angry letter from Thompson to Judge Friedman

Both motions failed. The first was denied by the appeals court. The second, a motion to compel "production" of Bully, that is, turning a copy over to Thompson, apparently was approved by Judge Friedman, but concurrent with the retail release of the game. Thompson had sought a pre-release copy.

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My god where does this guy get off. The letter to the judeg sgould esnure at least he gets held in contempt. The guy has no clue at all.
Awww, he has to wait to play the game like the rest of us.
Think he pre-ordered?

JT just proves over and over again what a douchebag he is. He is the laughingstock, not only of video game industry people, but of his own ilk. EVEN LAWTERS MAKE FUN OF YOU, JT!


Make PARENTS responsible for what they shovel off on to their kids in a patehtic attempt at parenting.
Are you kidding me? A law student could have written a better motion than this. Get a clue!

"What, then, is the harm in allow Thompson to see a game which Take-Two flaks say he is wonderfully promoting?"

I love how you used derogatory terms in a motion to compel.

"22. There are things in this game that Thompson did not know that he now knows that are utterly appalling. He has a right, in trying to make his case, to share that with his expert, but he is operating under a gag order not to. This is simply not fair."

I'd like to see some backup on this statement. Oh, and life's not fair.

"The Court, and the defendants, can better answer that question by talking with six parents in Paducah, more than twenty parents in Littleton, Colorado, the families of those killed just last month in Montreal by a video gamer who trained on Super Columbine Massacre."

The game is called Super Columbine Massacre RPG. Get the title straight. Secondly, how could they have 'trained' using this game? Have you even played it? It is on par with commercial games developed in the early 90s. There is very little realism in the alleged simulation.

You're floundering Jack. You can do better than this.
Gee, an angry letter to the judge. Who couldn't have seen this coming?
I challenge Jack Thompson to "train" on the Street Fighter series of games before entering a little friendly competition known as the UFC. Of course after a few months of intensive fighting training using only his thumbs he would be on par with some of the most skilled fighters on the planet right?
Cheer up, Jack. On Tuesday, Take-Two, Wal-Mart, and Gamestop will gladly provide you with a copy...for $39.99 plus tax.

As for all the peutlant whining about Take-Two providing copies to the Media and not to you, remember that companies have the right to advertise. Giving the game to the press is a way of advertising. Giving the game to someone who is trying to destroy them any way he can is just not in their best interest. Besides, the comedy value of these three documents is worth every penny they spent keeping it from you.
I love how he stomps his feet and throws a fit about actions he claims other people do... WHILE HE COMMITS THE VERY SAME ACTS OVER AND OVER AGAIN HIMSELF.

I mean, really, he's lost it completely.

Pathetic. Just outright pathetic.

nightwng2000
NW2K Software
Nightwing, this shouldn't suprise you, I mean, come on. It's Thompson for crying out loud.

Either way, the guys a hack, and a bad one at that.

Let him whine and cry. It just proves us more and more right.
I'll laugh when the judge reads that and finds JT in contempt.
Yuki,
When John Bruce throws one of his fits he reminds me of the little karate clad guy, body looks almost like the AOL guy with a karate suit on, and a round, bald head with anger on his face, jumping up and down, up and down.

I've seen them on occasion, and sometimes a similar character in some anime shows do that.

Every time John Bruse throws his tantrums, that what he riminds me of. :)

nightwng2000
NW2K Software
Got sour grapes?
The Republicans in the Congress of the United States apparently can’t protect pages, and the Miami-Dade judicial system can’t even protect children, let alone its own reputation.

Did I just read that right? Is he comparing Bully to alleged child molestation?
Jack,

Before you write your next book, I demand you turn your manuscript over to me first. If I find it unsuitable for publication, I get to deny you your First Amendment rights. Deal?
So now, Jack can buy a copy and prove himself wrong.
I asked on Destructoid, but I thought I would as here too.

According to Nitro, the judge indicated there would be more to the case on Wednesday.

Although the game isn't to be delayed, what more will there be on Wednesday?

nightwng2000
NW2K Software
Could some of the comments in the three documents be construed as slander or defamation of character? He asserted with absolutely no proof that

"Rebecca Ward, lied in your courtroom when she told you that a “Teen” rating is an age restriction at the point of sale. That is an utter fabrication, and you are on notice that it is an utter fabrication. Ms. Ward is very good at fabricating things for a client that routinely engages in criminal conduct".

The fact is some retailers do in-fact ask for ID for sales of teen rated games and if they do not it is at this time not illegal to do so. To my knowledge Rockstar and Take Two Interactive have never been convicted of a crime (Felony or Misdemeanor).
From the mandamus - "This game is so violent that it cannot be legally sold to anyone under 15 years of age in the UK without violating a criminal statute."

As a Brit, it gets tired seeing this particular angle from Thompson, as he conveniently ignores the fact that this applies to films and videos as well as games. Thompson takes this out of context in order to suggest the UK has specialised laws in regards to video games - which is probably how he wants it.
Okay, show of hands. Who didn't see this coming?
"What you conducted in your chambers, Judge, was the equivalent of Iran leading UN weapons inspectors around the country taking them to places where the illegal activity was not occurring."


Did anyone else almost shit themselves with laughter when reading this?
This game is violent! They know it, and I know it, they just don't want you to know that I know that they know, you know? It's obvious! They showed their game to the judge, but they didn't show the violent parts . I know they didn't show the violent parts because I didn't see any violence! So they're liars too! CHILDREN WILL DIE! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE! AND YOUI WOULDN'T LET ME STOP THEM!!! LET ME JUDGE THEIR GAME, I'LL DECIDE!!!!!

I'M THE ONLY ONE WHOSE OPINION MATTERS!!!

Well, at least he got a free game out of it, so it's not a total loss. I wonder why Jack likes to share these letters of his? He knows we're just going to laugh at them.

I can't believe that he's still convinced that Take-Two is hiding something. They sent a copy of the game to the court house and PLAYED IT IN FRONT OF YOU. And you're stll not satisfied. You can't admit any fault, can you? Are you still convinced that there are incredibly graphic scenes that they didn't show to the judge? You're being incredibly unreasonable Jack. You asked that the game be played for 100 hours or more, how is this reasonabel? You want the Judge to play this game for four days straight without sleeping? Are you insane? (That's a rhetorical question)

Well, I guess you can go ahead and keep milking this bully nonsense for all it's worth. Keep fighting the good fight against those slingshots!
I'm anticipating hearing about Bully again after Jack gets his hands on it. No sooner than after it's release, Jack will issue a press release about him "finding" hidden content that wasn't shown to Judge Friedman. I figure his "hidden content" will be a gun for you to go on a rampage with, since he had always insisted that this game was supposed to be a Columbine simulator.
Um. He won after all. He's going to get a copy of the game, as I understand it, FOR FREE! That's what he wanted all along people! All the calls to preview the game, that was just because he couldn't become a play tester. He only wanted the judge to play it because he thought maybe he'd get a turn later on. Now, finally, Jack has gotten what he wanted and made fools of us all.
I just read JBT's letter to Friedman - good Lord, that man loves his commas.
From the Motion to Compel:

"WHEREFORE, plaintiff moves this Honorable Court for an Order directing Take-Two to produce Bully to him by courier the morning of Saturday, October 14, 2206..."

I'm sure Take Two would be more than happy to give a copy to Jack in 2206. Sometimes, lawyers get so full of themselves they forget to check for typos.
Three things to point out.
1) In a professional legal letter, shouldn't you at least try to remain professional and refrain from using opinionated terms like "Columbine simulator" (wouldn't that involve guns?) and calling the video game magazines "flak for Take Two"?
2) Is argument that bloodless violence is more dangerous than bloody violence. So it's better to let my 5 year old cousin play Mortal Kombat than Bully? And don't get me started on Looney Tunes.
3) There is one thing I agree with Thompson on in this situation. The Take Two employees should have had to swear in, and Thompson should have gotten a cross-examination. My guess, though, is that four hours in, the judge realized how rediculous the entire thing was and just wanted to end it all.
It is amazing how, from Alabama to Florida, Jack Thompson keeps running into these horrible judges! One would think that after running into so many judges who keep dismissing Jack and his claims that maybe there was something wrong with Jack and his assumptions. Of course, we all know better and it is just the entire world that is wrong and Jack that is right. Aren't we lucky to have Jack to find all these horrible judges that are in the pocket of the videogame industry!
Is writing a letter like this in any way a violation of some kind of protocol? Can he be reported to the bar for this?
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