Did Likely White House Contender Try to Cut PlayStation 3 Line?

Did Likely White House Contender Try to Cut PlayStation 3 Line?

November 17, 2006


Could the PS3 be a factor in the 2008 presidential campaign?

Could be, following reports that former North Carolina Senator John Edwards asked a local Wal-Mart store to help him obtain one of the hard-to-find consoles. The PlayStation 3 is launching today amidst long lines and severe retail shortages.

As first reported by the AP, Wal-Mart officials said that an aide to Edwards had made the PS3 request. The 2004 Democratic VP nominee and likely 2008 candidate for the White House initially denied the story, but later admitted that a staffer had contacted a local Wal-Mart about the next-gen system. Edwards says that happened without his knowledge.

Here's how it played out:

On Wednesday Edwards criticized the giant retailer while participating in a conference call with labor activists from WakeUpWalMart.com. Company officials claim that on the same day an Edwards staffer asked a Wal-Mart store in Raleigh to hold a PS3 for the ex-Senator. Edwards denied the charge:
Elizabeth and I don't shop at Wal-Mart. We haven't been in a Wal-Mart in years. We instructed no one to contact Wal-Mart on our behalf.

GP: That's a carefully-worded statement that is not really a denial.

Wal-Mart spokesman David Tovar wouldn't name the staffer who supposedly made the request, but told the AP the caller left a voice mail saying he worked for Edwards. Company officials confirmed that he was an Edwards staffer by calling back. The retail giant subsequently issued a statement accusing Edwards of trying to use his status to obtain a scarce PS3:
While the rest of America's working families are waiting patiently in line, Sen. Edwards wants to cut to the front.

A follow-up AP story published last night reports that the former senator now acknowledges that the volunteer did contact the Wal-Mart for help in obtaining a PS3 for Edwards' family.
My wife, Elizabeth, wanted to get a Playstation3 for my young children. She mentioned it in front of one of my staff people. That staff person mentioned it in front of a volunteer who said he would make an effort to get one. He was making an effort to go get one for himself.

Elizabeth and I knew nothing about this. He feels terrible about this. He made a mistake and he knows he should not have used my name.

The volunteer was "a young kid," Edwards said, who was unaware of the likely presidential candidate's criticisms of the chain. Edwards said Wal-Mart was trying to shift attention from its own problems.

The AP reports that earlier this year Wal-Mart hired a new P.R.director, and a more aggressive posture toward critics was expected.

Comments

There are 20-40 year old people standing outside. There is a woman who is ignoring her birth labor pains in favor of the CHANCE to get a PS3- it's stupid, yeah, but at least she's biting the bullet and then some. There are parents who are standing there till probably midnight the NEXT evening just to get one.
If this dickhead wants to get a PS3, he can stand in the line with everybody else- and I'll have maximum disdain for him and every other nut who waits in freezing temperatures and rain for a console. It's one thing to shell out $600 for a console willingly, but it's quite another to go through an endurance trial just to be in line to get one, not get it, and do it again. =P
I don't think Edwards has a chance at being president, people only voted for Kerry because he hated Bush and since it's unconcstitutional for him to run in 08 that's a big disadvantage. Also Edwards was form NC (where I used to live) which voted a Republican majority in 04.
I think it's good that a politician is in favor of gaming and that this is good news for the gaming community and very bad news for anti-game fanatics like Jack Thompson that the people they're appealing to in their never ending fight against the games are coming over to our side. This is awesome and I hope that more politicians buy game consoles. Look out, Jack Thompson, your cause is in serious trouble. Although I don't approve of Wal-Mart, it's very good that a politician is a gamer.
You know looking at how old his kids are, 6 and 8, a Wii probably would be a better choice. I just don't see the ps3 having many games aimed at that age group. Any good games, like the Wii will most likely have. I don't know though.
With the launch of the PS3 today, videogames made the headlines of news around Quebec today with the title of "Are videogames a menace... to your social life?". Yes, thats the most dangerous thing Quebec news can come up about videogames. Not how videogames can be responsible for school shootings, bullying or teen violence but how they can be responsible for making people miss going to movies with friends or going outside and play more sports. They even had a 60 year old woman saying when she wanted to relax how she loved to play videogames, every kind of games. I really wonder when Quebec will have that "videogames are evil" crazyness but I do not mind if we never get it.
Would we be getting this upset if a major basketball star of pop singer was requesting a PS3? I'm sure there are some that have done this very thing, but do we talk about boycotting their games or concerts because of it?

Why do we let our entertainment icons off the morality hook?
Wait in line like everyone else, you lazy bastard.
Honestly, would we even care if it was jumping the queue for concert tickets, or some other hard to get item?

Cripes, all the kid did was ask. If Walmart had given in, then that says more about Walmart than Edwards.

The retail giant subsequently issued a statement accusing Edwards of trying to use his status to obtain a scarce PS3

Sounds like Walmart was trying to use Edwards' status to do some PR'ing of their own...
Obligatory joke:
He wants a PS3 so he can turn it over on eBay to fund his 2008 campaign.

In seriousness, a PS3 isn't the best choice for his kids. It won't be a BAD choice (Sony's PS2 actually turned out to be the most kid friendly console last generation), but the Wii is a remarkable choice and so is the DS. GamePolitics has great posters, they're right about that.

If Edwards wants games for his kids, he needs a site like GamerDad I think. Maybe we can turn him into a good pro-videogames candidate. ;-)
So his staffer called Wal*Mart asking if they could get a PS3...

Does he have control over the staffer? Did he tell the staffer "Call Wal*Mart!"?

I think the biggest issue isn't that someone called Wal*Mart asking if they had a PS3, but that Edwards' staffer went to Wal*Mart, which Edwards was criticizing. But, again, did he tell the staffer where to ask about the PS3?
This sounds like a whole lot of overreacting to me...
@ Hank

You got it. Talk about something out of nothing!
Yeah, it must be a slow news day if this is the big 'threat' of the day. I'd be a bit more concerned with folks getting shot and mugged for one of those things, than someone skipping ahead. Now, if Edward had shot someone, then this might be a different story...
I agree w/ GamerDad, Terminator & Thefreshman...poor choice for your kids....get a Wii.

I'm not going on a big rant about elitism, wal-fart etc....I just noticed his wife wanted it for thier small children.


SUUUUUUUUURE SHE DID.....XD
for a site that often says 'let parents decide what their kids consume', you guys are pretty dogmatic about what console another parent should buy his kids.

and how come no one here gives edwards the benefit of the doubt? yeah he could be lying about the staffer acting on his own, but how are you to decide one way or the other?
It speaks volumes about the character of a politician that feels the need to lie about something as insipid as a PS3.
@deepthought

...I gave him the benfit of the doubt, as did a couple other people.
What's with the Edwards bashing? It sounds to me like the staffer didn't know what he was doing or was ignorant of Edwards' campaigning against Wally World.

Hell, it's not even news worthy.
@Deppthought

Not saying he can't get a PS3 for the kids, just saying it would be a much much much much much much much much much much much much better choice.

It's like, if I worked at Sears and a parent was thinking of buying a chainsaw for their 8 year old son and a washing machine for their 6 year old daughter I would try to steer them towards different products that their kids would enjoy more. It's just advice, for fuck's sake. Like when a forum member says "I wanna kill myself" and you say "maybe you shouldn't kill yourself quite so much.".
Pardon me for saying this, GP, but I fail to see how this feature is relevant to GamePolitics. The issue at hand is Edward's lack of respect for Walmart, correct? The controversy has absolutely nothing to do with the PS3. The staffer could've been asking about the latest model toaster oven and the result would have been the same.

Also, the fact that the product in question was a PS3 isn't really a big deal. Why do we hate the politicians? They want to ban games they think overstep the bounds of good taste. Are there any that want to ban consoles altogether? I have yet to see one. If one of Edwards' main thrusts was the abolition of all video games or the dissolution of Sony, then that would be a big story. Or if he was a big time anti-violent game personality and he was caught reserving the GTA III box set for his kids.
Well, on consideration, merely owning a PS3 is not tantamount to buying violent games, however, I still think it was a bit off to try and use that influence in such a way.

And yes, I'd be inclined to agree this is as much Walmart trying to cover their own backs, but then this is the political climate being bred in politics in the US at the moment, it's no longer about what you believe, it's about what the other guy did. Quite sad really.
in the US at the moment, it’s no longer about what you believe, it’s about what the other guy did. Quite sad really.

The current Cdn government is pulling that kind of crap too, it's getting annoying actually. Everything they do gets justified not on it's merits, or importance, but on how the previous government did NOTHING, so doing NEXT TO NOTHING is clearly an improvement... /sigh
@hayabusa75

So file it under "quirky game-related news involving politicians" rather than "groundbreaking struggle between politicians and game retailers". ;)
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The irony is, the foxnews.com version of the story is far more flattering to Edwards. According to that one, the volunteer was dropping Edwards' name to score a PS3 for himself.
Uh. Woo.

It was an honest mistake I think, Edwards doesn't seem like an asshat like half the other politicians, though, I could be mistaken being a Canadian and all.

Though, if I was an American, and if Rudy was running, I'd vote for him anyway. *cough*

And if anyone starts praising Wal-Mart, me and you are going to have to have a fight. They're one of the worst companies to work for unless you're disabled in someway, and I don't mean that as a shot against disabled, and speaking of which, I'm slowly moving my way to that list thanks to my bad knees and family genetics.

I'm also going to skip the obligitory anti-PS3 rant and the praise the other systems crap because I'm tired of it. I'm getting a Wii on Sunday or Monday anyway, so it's not like it's a big deal on what anyone wants to play. It's a friggin' Game. Those thefts in the states were pretty sad.
Slow news day, Dennis?
Give me a break. If Edwards wanted to avoid controversey, why wouldn't he just get it from Target instead of Wal-Mart?

And that Mall-Mart line about "America's working families?" Screw you, Wal-Mart - you're responsible for more of those "working families" living in poverty and debt than any other retailer in America because of your low wages, lack of benefits, and history of corruptness when it comes to paying people for their time.

Not to mention all the substandard labor conditions used to produce Wal-Mart's crappy products overseas.

Wal-Mart is in absolutely no position to criticize Edwards, especially not with a line about "America's working families." Their PR guy is a dick.
I really do think it was a misunderstanding. Reading the whole the thing and understanding what's going on, it would make no sense for him to tell an aide to call walmart out of all places. It's obvious that he doesn't shop at walmart because he's against the practices they do, so I don't think he'd send an aide to walmart. I think he would chose a different store. I mean look how walmart jumped on it. No way Edwards would be that stupid. As much as I think all politicians are stupid, I just don't think he would attempt to buy anything at walmart, his hate for them seems pretty complete.
Heheh. Edwards has lost. But maybe he could have someone just sit in line for him??? That would have been a lot less contriversial. In fact, if he had sat out there himself, that would have been great publicity I would say :D
Or it could be he won't shop at Wal-Mart because of exploitive labor practices and their tendency to suck all the life out of a local economy to funnel it back to headquarters...

Nah, can't be it. Must be an asshole.
Well, I think that pretty much concludes matters. They are claiming 'Children are buying teh games!' and then try to get a playstation for their young children... So much for it not being a matter of parental regulation.
"Elizabeth and I don’t shop at Wal-Mart. We haven’t been in a Wal-Mart in years. " Of course not- you are an out-of-touch rich asshole who can't and won't identify with the "working class" (who frequent Wal-Mart). Good job coming off as a pompus eleitist.
Has anyone emailed him telling him a better buy for his kids would be a Wii or DS since it would have more age appropriate games released, and lets be honest, more games released period.
I would find it entertaining if the news agencies really leapt on this story. I've never intended to vote for Edwards in the first place, and this story makes me no less likely to vote for him. Anyone making a huge fuss about this is guilty of being a whiner with an axe to grind.

There is no way you can complain about someone cutting other people in line for a video game and still be taken seriously. As much as I am sympathetic to the plight of obsessive console fans who put their lives on hold for several days to play mediocre launch titles... if a politician cuts them, that's pretty much status quo, and they have it coming.

And don't even start a rant about how he should set an example to others, or not to criticize Wal-Mart in rallies while trying to sneak a PS3. Is it hypocrtical behavior? In a politician? Gasp, my monocle has dropped in shock. I could never imagine a politician engaging in such behavior... eighty years ago. But this should surprise no one nowadays. Get over it.
Summing up that last paragraph:

1) "His wife" wanted to get a PS3 for his kids.
2) She happened to mention it to one of his staff, either directly or indirectly. We may never know.
3) The staff person told someone else about it, more directly.
4) That other person tried to see if he could late reserve one (or two) by dropping the ex-senator's name.

The story as related there puts the guy four steps away from any involvement, as far as I can see. Someone did something on behalf of someone else who was acting on behalf of Edwards' wife with or without her consent. Ooh, what an evil man he is.
Is it me, or does this whole thing about the PS3 seem totally over the top. I know it's the latest and greatest, but come on. theres like, 3 games out for it, not including the backwards compatible stuff. So, you know, Just chill till it's on store shelvs and by it then.

I swear, all these people getting in line are Crazy.

I've never done that for a console in my entire life!
"My wife, Elizabeth, wanted to get a Playstation3 for my young children."

Umm, it's a $600 hyper advanced gaming system. I don't think your young children would be able to even work to damn thing. Just get them a Wii instead. They'll probabaly like a Nintendo product more anyway.

About this controversy, it's predicatable that a politico like Edwards would go back on his critisms on Wal-Mart to try and cut to the PS3 line for it. These Democrats CLAIM they're out for America's working families, but when it gets right down to it, they demand special privileges just as much as the Republicans. That's why we need to elect leaders that advocate REAL changes, not just glittering generalities.
It looks tome like one of Edwards' staffers tried to do some name-dropping to cut in line and Wal-Mart is trying to play this for political gain. They're the ones we should be jumping on.
I don't understand what the issue is here. A member of his staff, in a fit of intended helpfulness, called the local Wal-Mart to see if they could do anything to get Edwards a PS3. So what?

Is the issue that he was seen to be trying to jump the queue? Or is it that no presidential candidate could ever been seen to be allowing a *gasp* videogame console into their home? Or is it that the voting populace will think he's lame for wanting a PS3 rather than a 360 or a Wii?

If it's queue-jumping that's the concern, the news story doesn't even say whether Wal-Mart complied and held a PS3 back for him or not. And if it did, that's a process called "pre-ordering" on the planet I come from, and really isn't that big a deal.

So yeah. I don't get it.
The only way I could see this as an issue would be if he paid an illegal immigrant to stand in line for him. ;)
For the right price I think I can seperate with mine, Mr. Edwards. just fire off an email to me, k?
sounds more like a staffer wanted it than edwards,used the anme in hopes of scoring it and failed and failed bad....

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