Bill O'Reilly Slams PS3 Launch, Gamers, iPods, Digital Tech (not in that order)

Bill O'Reilly Slams PS3 Launch, Gamers, iPods, Digital Tech (not in that order)

November 18, 2006
Apparently sparked by the PlayStation 3 launch, conservative pundit Bill O'Reilly took off after video game culture and digital technology generally in yesterday's Radio Factor.

The controversial talk show host, who advertises his program as a "no spin zone" offered the following spin on gamers and much of their favorite gear:
American society is changing for the worse because of the machines... In the past to flee the real world people usually chose drugs or alcohol... now you don't have to do that, Now all you have to do is have enough money to buy a machine...

Basically what you have is a large portion of the population, mostly younger people under the age of 45, who don’t deal with reality - ever. So they don’t know what day it is; they don’t know temperature it is; they don’t know what their neighbor looks like. They don’t know anything… because they are constantly diverted by a machine. Now what this does is it takes a person away from reality because they’ve created their own reality...

Here comes the PS3 rant:
The newest thing is the PlayStation 3. Now this is a machine that allows you to play games in hi-def and all this other stuff... It's the newest state of the art system from Sony.... It has a video game console, plays DVDs, connects you to the Internet, tells you how handsome you are. It’s six-hundred bucks.  Now people lined up for hours to get this thing. Hours!

Next, O'Reilly recounts some of the various, well-publicized incidents that took place on PS3 lines around the country, before launching into:
The problem with this stuff is that some people can deal with it constructively... but other people get addicted to it, just like opium, just like drugs and alcohol… So this is a big, big problem. It’s going to change every single thing in this country.

At about this point, O'Reilly has Blois Olson of the National Institute on Media & the Family on as a guest. Olson talked about some issues regarding video game addiction, but was quite reasonable. As for O'Reilly? He thinks your video gaming may well doom you to a life of poverty:
The have-nots are growing. Why are they growing? Because the skill set that is necessary to earn a decent living is being deemphasized in a fantasy world of football games and shooting zombies and all that….   Now you have the "knows" and the "know-nots", because if you spend all your youth being prisoners of machines.....  you're not going to know anything…. You’re gonna fail.

And, even though O'Reilly's pay site offers a podcast, the pundit rather curiously disses the iPod and seems to equate video gaming with national collapse:
I don’t own an iPod. I would never wear an iPod... If this is your primary focus in life  - the machines... it’s going to have a staggeringly negative effect, all of this, for America... did you ever talk to these computer geeks? I mean, can you carry on a conversation with them? ...I really fear for the United States because, believe me, the jihadists? They're not playing the video games. They're killing real people over there.

GP: A big, huge shout-out to reader Jim for the tip... Even if GP did have to shell out $4.95 in order to listen to O'Reilly's rant. Hey, we spare no expense for our readers.

Comments

Most of O'Reilly's demographic can remember when the TV was invented. Really.
Yes! He has it perfectly!

We should spend more time waving our countrie's flag and singing the national anthem while dancing the national jig, talking to people that are too busy to pay attention to us, writing letters to them and shivvering with glee as they get glanced over and ignored for lack of mindless praise.
In fact, all of our free time should be spent worshipping both government and god.

Oh and let's not forget the military, simply supporting our soldiers and staff isn't good enough, we must gather our collective psychic power and beam love and joy over to them through means of magic arse crystals.
While we're at it, we should also spend more time yelling over far seas at cave-dwelling warlords. Showing them our displeasure, as they shread our suggestive letters, and ignore us.
Looks like someone's grumpy over the Republican defeat. Quick, someone get this man a PS3 so he can blow off some steam.
Bill,

I am really very tried of your attempts to attack the New Generation. You attacked hip hop and now you attack video games. You are a right wing shock-jock and this is why.

Everyone knows what a Left wing shock-jock is... i.e. Howard Stern. But Bill are the opposite. Hip Hop is Billion dollar industry with Millions of listener's worldwide. Video games are no different. With the Playstation 3 and Nintendo's Wii release for this Christmas it is sure to be the top of everyone's list, young and old. The hype of this is, the biggest Computer and Gaming industry has seen, and this being the tech age and the release of the new windows that's pretty big. And you Bill taking it, (spin-doctoring if you will) and use it to wide your listen audience. Bill you are full of it. By Shocking the nation again and spinning the hype for own good you are a hypocrite. No different than Dennis Rodman, Madonna or Stern.

You clam that Video Games are the down fall of the youth. You mis-informed, dumb or really smart ( See last par.) Video Games are not like Pac Man anymore. In Video Games you must earn money, to stay competitive. Muti-task, you must monitor your heath, radar, team members, ammo and enemies. In Sports you can have full control of your favorite team. Trade players even draft players from your NCAA game to your Pro game. With games like Grand Theft Auto (GTA) Do your homework, as sells of GTA went up, crime alone the same lines of in the game went down. The US Army said that soldiers who grew up playing video games are better . And Video Games trains you to be a soldier by use tactics to win ( things you should be happy about unless you are a Kerr supporter). And with Online ability in all of the Next Gen systems the world is your neighbor. You are able the talk to people around the world and play with or against them. All of these skill can help you in your adult life.

BILL, I challenge you to air this Full email without edit to your TV show and Radio show!!! Because you may have a lot good points on many issues ( I to side mostly with the right wing ) but attacks on hip hop and video games because it's big news or business. Bill, Stop attacking peoples fun, entertainment, and hobbies. You sound like the people that attack Elvis for dancing on a stage. And Bill what do you do for a hobby, read books, RPG's are interactive books. Play tennis, the Wii makes you run around the room and swinging the controller like a racket to play. So next time you want to hit the court and its raining theirs an idea. and Bill you say boy-cot the thing you do not like. You said "I don’t own an iPod. I would never wear an iPod…" I hope apple and the rest of the tech industry will thing about boy-cotting you. And Finally the underlining problem with the youths is this... The Parents! The Parents are the only true problem with our children. Like computers garbage in garbage out. Parents and You should not take games away from children but spent time on there interest (Video Games, Sports, and etc.) and show them love and not a $699 babysitter.

Signed
Shawn Talbott
Husband and Father
middle class citizen
and 28 y/o Gamer 4 life
WHAT A RIOT to watch hundreds of slackerboys rise up to defend their rights! If I had Bill's platform I'd say the same stuff just to piss you off!
I like that people consider heavy computer usage/escapism a horrible thing unto itself. This is extremely retarded, as there is a reason why people are engaging in escapsim, even more so the kids. They may have real problems in their life that their parents and those around them are failing to recognize or assist the kid with. The parents themselves might be the problem; abusive and dangerous, rendering the kid to either flee the house as often as possible or while they are occupied in the house, lock themselves up into some solo activity. Either reading, painting, or - you guessed it, engaging in just playing. A game, electronic or not.

When they have options for normality, they'll explore it in a heart-beat. But until their have that option, they'll continue with the paths presented to them. I just wish Billy boy here would stop with the rhetoric which is both damaging and useless.

He isn't helping. Only reinforcing incorrect sterotypes and applying more negative pressure to the kids who need help (Hey kids! You're doomed to be failures forever. :D And you can't do anything about it! :D), IF they even need help in the first place.
This just in: Bill says somthing stupidly ignorant and offensive. More at 11!{/sarcasm}

Interesting that Ben grimm isn't replying to this at all.
About Bill O'Reilly and videogames... remember his 1988 report about Nintendo's NES success ?

Check it there : http://youtube.com/watch?v=yGFRi_ueq-M
screw bill o'reilly. I didnt think negatively of him before cause my dad watches his show all the time, but now.....what a dirty dick.
Whew.... Can't stop laughing! Since when did GamePolitics start posting stand-up comedy routines? Gotta love that he bashes iPods and his site offers a Podcast! LOL!

O' Reilly's comment=lies, ignorance, half-truths, and fear. Nothing else to it. He's the one who can't handle the real world.

Did he actually support drug and alcohol abuse? Come on even the biggest moron on the planet wouldn't dream of suggesting people abuse controlled substances to "flee" the real world. Does he really think if all the gamers started coming home and, rather than playing Warcraft or FInal Fantasy 12, got drunk and/or high they would suddenly know thier neighbors and the temperature, if they already didn't? I've never even heard of a gamer running around in 20 degree weather naked, or assaulting an officer, but you can be sure a drunk or a stoner has done so and ended up on the evening news. They probably will do so again, too.

I'm not proud of the reaction to the PS3 launch. Whether they were parents, gamers, or violent rabid beasts, it was a shame. People don't act in such a manner. The recent troubles weren't so much an issue of a new game coming out, but really proof that ignorant, selfish, disrepectful, and violent people come in all shapes, sizes, creeds, and colors (see Bill O' Reilly). As many others have pointed out, similar incidents have occured with movies, games, and even Tickle Me Elmo. It's not gamer culture but a sad fact of human nature. If there was a food-shortage and only enough for 10% of the populace to eat you can bet there would be mass riots. I'd bet money Bill would be among them if he didn't already have a stock of his own. That's not a perfect example, I'll admit that. Still my point is: it's humans that did that, not the PS3. Not one PS3, or XBox360, or Tickle Me Elmo, killed, mugged, or raped anyone.

Hey Bill, do me a favor. Protect your kids. Don't protect me. I don't want you to.
Oh so it was another "LOLZ IR BIG STRONG MANLY MAN MAN MAN! ME NOT NEED TEKNOLOGY! NERDS R B SMASHED!" rant?

Seriously, he has at least one of those a day. It's either about how evil this newfangled technological advance (that he obviously dosen't understand, but he dosen't need to because understanding things is unnessasary for a manly man), or how lame that new "chick flick" (like, you know, anything that isn't about WWII soldiers led by John Wayne kicking nazi ass) is, andhow he'd never watch that because he's a manly blah. Hell, he even finds a way to insert it into his daily ego stroking: "Well, those girly men at random local newspaper said something about me again. You know, if I wasen't such a manly man I'd point out that *my* show is way more popular than them. So there, neener neener, suck it you lame nerds lols!"

And that's why I finally stopped listening, well, that and I'd broken two radios...
Good thing O'reilly hasn't made a difference in years... he's just another symbol of a generation that refueses to adapt.
I'd like to see or hear the no spin zone put Dennis or Andrew on. He'd be too stubborn to concede anything with either of them, but it would definately be a great debate with deserving people instead of the usual media whores out there.

And just so we're clear, I am NOT saying Dennis or Andrew are media whores ;)
"In the past to flee the real world people usually chose drugs or alcohol… now you don’t have to do that, Now all you have to do is have enough money to buy a machine…"

Ya those were the good old days when real men bought drugs to get away from society!

"Now what this does is it takes a person away from reality because they’ve created their own reality…"

HAHAHAHA! I love this, a FOX News employee, and Bill O' Reily no less, accusing OTHER people of creating their own reality.

"Now you have the “knows” and the “know-nots”, because if you spend all your youth being prisoners of machines….. you’re not going to know anything…. You’re gonna fail."

No, the knows and the know-nots come from an American education system that has failed its children due to funding cuts. Your conservatives at work!
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Dustin1986 and EvilZombie are right. This is just an open show of anti-nerd hatred. He makes it look like as if you can't carry on a conversation with a computer geek as if they have no social skills, when in fact he shouldn't be talking as they maintain his website and the cameras that get his sagging old conservative nutty viewpoints out there. And when I mean nutty, I don't mean a can full of Planters nuts nutty, but undigested peanuty turd nutty. That describes O'Reilly perfectly.

I'm a tad sick of this anti-nerd bias in this country. To sum it up, it's like "I hate you and think you are undesirable and unsociable and you deserve to be bashed or ignored you stupid nerd! Now make my fucking cell phone, video game, computer, maintain my computer and net connection, etc." Why don't we "geeks" get appreciated? Why is it that we have so many people in the news and in sitcom writing that feel it is OK to just bash the nerds anyways? And why the hell don't we have our own civil rights organization or group to defend us when we are bashed? It's about time somebody steps up for us and tells these people to knock it off. Can't make fun of black people, Hispanics, women, etc. because that would be sexist or racist, but bashing geeks seems to be perfectly OK. Why?

He acts like as if our focus is on machines and not being smart and succesful. Tell that to Will Wright, Warren Spector, Mark Rein, Ed Boon, John Tobias, and the throngs of other men and women who have had success with game business, design, art, and competition you damned old fart! Saying that we are unsocial, unsmart, and future unsuccessful people is just writing us off without giving us a chance to be such. If he really doesn't like those of us that are, why doesn't he work to do something about it to begin with instead of just turning into a talking head that just bitches about it?

And by the way Mr. O'Reilly, the whole anti-game and anti-geek bias in this country that you are very much a part of will be decimated. And OMG! Did I learn the word "decimated" in school? No! I learned it from a game of Warcraft II.'

But then again, the PS3 riots don't exactly help the gamer image with people robbing stores at gunpoint and people getting wild because of shortages. Does anyone smell another opportunity opened up for He Whose Name Shall Not Be Spoken to get his face in the spotlight and say "See! I told you games turn people violent!"?

/rant
OHNOES! INVASION OF THE MACHINES! THEY SPENT HOURS TO GET IT! HOURS!

1982 here we come!
According to my brother, Bill is a satanist.

This anti-game shit is getting dumb. I'm starting to think that Gamers should ruthlessly google-bomb and hack every Censorcrat site there is, while the game industry goes rambo with lawsuits.

Then again, maybe it's just making games more popular.
this one time i farted real lous and poeple look at me like wft
@Marisu

Gotcha. I as well think that the few who do take it too far need help. There is such a difference between escapism and gutless denial and refusal to deal with reality.

It is a good thing that the problem is brought out and should be addressed, but not by O'Reilly and other generally un-game educated people because their opinion is almost always automatically slanted in one direction before going on and voicing themselves. I'd rather someone goes on and talks about such issues in the gaming community who first sit on the fence in a neutral position and then form their opinions based on stuff they find out rather than go in with a slanted viewpoint.

O'Reilly is not one of those types to be neutral. You know fully well that he is going to take a right-wing conservative take on an issue and it sure as hell isn't a neutral one, like it should be. Because he panders to a certain crowd he is going to make his opinion of games a certain way to please them.

Anyone know of a news organization or network that has those with a more neutral view or don't they exist? It would work better than Bill here.
What's wrong with his face? Has he been dirty on the phone again, becuase it looks like his face exploded in acne.
That's right, O'Reilly. Video games are corrupting this culture and leaving us down the road to poverty and materialism. I mean, it certainly couldn't be your parent company paying O.J. Simpson $3.5 million to tell the world how he would kill his wife... if he did it.

Pundits like O'Reilly make me laugh. I'm glad there are people like Colbert to show how absurd these vainglorious demagogues really are.
OldschoolVgamer:
"I’m a tad sick of this anti-nerd bias in this country. [...] Why is it that we have so many people in the news and in sitcom writing that feel it is OK to just bash the nerds anyways? And why the hell don’t we have our own civil rights organization or group to defend us when we are bashed?"

Because we've got better things to do.

On a related note, perhaps we can agree that no one should reply to O'Reilly on these issues? He is notorious for being a troll, inciting people into e-mailing flames to him, which he gets to mock on the air. O'Reilly is garbage and not worth your time or mine.
conservative pundit are the key words...and i hope that fucktard reads this because i love playing games and shooting zombies and i already have most of my life planned out you fucking retard...i think he fails to realize that alot of the computer nerds and geeks will succeed more than he ever will because they can write a program for a company that does something freakin wonderful for them and it's free to implement and that geek who spends hours on the computer gets paid out the ass for it...there are the idiots out there but no shit of course theirs going to be idiots...there are plenty of idiots who dont know a damn thing about a computer. jesus the fuck shit these kinds of people get me so pissed when they try to pin on something that isnt a problem what-so-ever...
This really reminds me of an episode of the Twilight Zone.
@Kyouryuu

Good point. It is better to ignore these people and watch it because they aren't really worth it, but at one point I think it goes a little too far. I find it disappointing that kind of thing is what I'm seen as.

Anyways, why the hell is Bill O'Reilly so popular anyways? Is it because he likes to rile people up over his words for shock value to get attention from those that agree with him or what?
O’Reilly is just an irrelevant old man, who is afraid of change. He is even more afraid of becoming totally irrelevant. He spends time attacking Stewart, Colbert, and now Playstation 3 when he should be spending his time getting an education, so that we wouldn't have to hear so much ignoranant garbage spewing from his mouth.
I know my neighbors...

Next door, on the left is the Detective Sgt. trying to become a Lt., his bitchass wife, and their little slut of a daughter who goes to the Catholic High School for girls.

On the right is the single mother with a retarded son. They're good people.

Across the street on the left is the furniture salesman, his wife the obsessive compulsive who is so bad she vacumes the driveway every day, and their son, the delinquent.

On the right is the guy who bought the house as an investment, lives in one side, and rents the other. He paid alot of money to buy his place from the state, and now he's suing them because of the lunatic who used to piss in the corner and light fires in the living room.

So, I know my neighbors, Bill. All too well.
Bill O'Reilly complaining about not being able to carry on a conversation with someone is funny when you consider what his idea of 'debate' consists of. Almost as funny as his ironic use of the term 'No Spin Zone'.
Who?
I like how someone - who comes from a society that constantly ignores the fact that there is a world outside America - actually bashes on the population group most likely to know more than himself. :)
"did you ever talk to these computer geeks? I mean, can you carry on a conversation with them?"

Of course he can't carry on a conversation with us - Because we're more intelligent than him.

But, I mean, we don't know anything, right? dee-de-dee.
Sorry to double post, but I had to:

Bill O'Reilly:

Curse your non-html friendly site, Dennis.

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4190/howdaruls1.jpg
It seems to me that Mr. O-Dumbass is making broad generalizations about the whole of gamers based upon a specific minority of us that really do need help.

Dear Mr. O-Dumbass,

The vast majority of gamers play games as a means of simple stress relief, or casually for fun. Most of us do know our neighbors. Most of us do interact with the real world very well. Most of us are very normal people. There is a minority of gamers who do need some help dealing with the real world, but it is my guess that these people would be doing something aside from gaming if they didn't have a "machine" to plug into (probably obsessive reading of fantasy material, or D&D/other role playing games).

You are usually an intelligent person, so please do some research and THINK before talking about gamers in such a bigoted, knee-jerk way again. You are steriotyping a HUGE percentage of the population, and as a person in your position such an action is extremely irresponsable. Bringing in someone from NIMF without bringing in a gamer to dispute their claims was also quite short-sighted. Essentially, you formed your own opinions and brought in a "yes man" to confirm them. Congratulations, I hope you're happy with yourself.
Now I'm off to go do some painting with my WIFE, and then help out one of my NEIGHBORS with his computer problems.
I hate it when I get to the party late and everyone's already covered everything I wanted to say! =)

I would like to attest, however, that the iPod is definitely beneficial to one's health...I'd never go to the gym without it. (24 Hour Fitness never changes their music and working in a nightclub, I've heard enough hip-hop to last me ten lifetimes.)
[...] He’s not the only one firing. Bill O’ Reilly of FOX NEWS, also slammed the PlayStation 3. The newest thing is the PlayStation 3. Now this is a machine that allows you to play games in hi-def and all this other stuff… It’s the newest state of the art system from Sony…. It has a video game console, plays DVDs, connects you to the Internet, tells you how handsome you are. It’s six-hundred bucks. Now people lined up for hours to get this thing. Hours! [...]
//O’Reilly doesn’t seem to consider that the violent crime rate has fallen substantially in the last ten years, moreso since the PS2 came out.//

Well, technically, he's complaining about how video game addicition is at an all-time high.

He does make some good points (albeit he could've said them WAY better) about how the addicition is happening. True, not EVERY gamer does what he says, but there are a number who do. Sure, maybe not knowing the temperature off-hand isn't the most important thing in the world, but the point he's trying to get across is that sometimes you should just put the controller down, and go hang out in the sun and make sure you're actually living a life.

However, if I read right, that's what the other guy is saying, and this guy is just taking the whole issue to a new level.
Classic! His show (really any television news program) is a sign of the very problem he is supposedly addressing. People don't know enough about issues in this country because of shows like his which reduce complex issues into meaningless sound bites. If he wanted to create more people in the know he wouldn’t be making his living off a media system which trickles down enough information so people think their informed when they are actually completely oblivious to what real going on in the world.

You want to know a real problem with America: our over inflated egos which have stifled our progress as a nation. The ego masturbation that passes for informing television today is a big part of the problem.

I admit these pundits may have good points at times but I for one don’t feel like digging through a pound of feces (their egos) to find the one oz. of chocolate (their points) buried underneath.
I've been reading GP for a fairly long time, and I have to say I never cease to be surprised by the complete and total ignorance that large sections of our society live in. You'd think after all this time one would be numb to it.

What really gets me is the quote about the "computer geeks," I mean, there ARE the classic reclusive computer-type people out there, but by and large programmers, sys admins, game devs, etc etc etc that I've known and worked with throughout the years have been some of the smartest most informed, most interesting people I've ever met.

His rant actually made me feel like puking ;p
As stated before, anything can be addictive, even things that make you go "eeeeew!" A purely psychological addiction is so totally different than drug addiction, that only a complete moron would equate them.

I've got three words for you, Billy O': Cabbage Patch Kids. What actually incites these behaviors is GREED. It isn't video game related at all.
Bill Butler is correct here. We must destroy the abominations of God which are machines made in the likeness of man's mind, and kill all those who assist them! Death to the unbelievers!

Seriously. What a luddite.
Correct me if I'm wrong. But it seems to me that the less that is understood about something the louder the ignorant shouting. Where as those who know stuff seem to be swept under the carpet no matter how hard they try to ge the info out.
So, regarding that last paragraph, is he saying gamers aren't killing any real people? Can we have that on paper from him, so we can shove it down his throat next time he's blaming computer game violence for actual violence?

Hell! Maybe we should give the terrorists some PS3s!
AHH! Mr.Loofah attacks again!

Seriously. I guess those people that camp out for Star Wars and James Bond are also addicted to movies like alcohol and drugs, and also created a reality for themselves? What do you say to that Bill?
Anyone else old enough to remeber the sea's of people wanting Cabbage Patch kid dolls way back in the day? Yeah we are so wrong and different from our forefathers on that one.....
Bill O'Reilly is, as usual, slathering on layer after layer of hyporitical nonsense.

First off, O'Reilly's claim to fame is his TV show - you know, the one on that 'machine' that everybody is diverted by, which they sit in front of to escape reality?

Speaking of escaping reality, isn't that what viewers and listeners of O'Reilly's shows do every day by watching and listening to him? I think that people who consider themselves 'informed' after listening to O'Reilly are a far greater threat than game consoles.

Amazing how so many people forget that just a few years ago, people referred to television as "that machine" that "degrades social skills." At least with video games, I'm not being yelled at by an ultra-right wing loudmouth every night.

And I love how in O'Reilly's world, everybody under the age of 45 has yet to experience reality. I'm guessing that makes most employees and execs at FOX and O'Reilly's radio show a bunch of dolts.

It's a good thing O'Reilly was able to come forward and speak the truth - I always had my suspicions that everybody under 45 was living in a delusional haze.
OldschoolVgamer,

I agree with you completely. But just because the problem is on a small scales, does not mean that we should ignore it's existance. And that goes for anything that people delve into too much to escape reality. Whether it's gambling, sports, eating, exercising. All of these activities can pose problems for those who become dependent on them. Instead of getting automatically getting defensive, like a lot of the responses above, we need to say, "Hey, that's not all of us, but a small portion need help". We can't ignore it.

And escapism can be healthy, especailly if the alternate is unhealthy. But when people are ignorning their personal and professional obligations, no matter what the vice is, they need help. And that happens to be a big problem in video gaming.

Videogame addiction is no more shameful than gambling, eating, or a sports addiction. It's a problem that mah people have and should be taken seriously. Not ignored.
@Marisu

I see where your coming from. But although he did have some points, he still shows that there are more than enough people that will look at another group and ignore the vast majority of people who are OK in favor of those few that are not OK. This is just an example of saying we are all becoming a little too dependent on technology based on what some individuals are doing. These people who riot for a PS3 represent a portion of the game community, not all of it, but that doesn't seem to matter to Mr. O'Reilly. When a few from a certain group screw up, for some reason it represents everyone in that group for some stupid people. It is sad but unfortunately true.
I think that, unlike Jack Thompson, Bill O Reilly poses no real threat to our games. He is just an old man who can't understand why people like to blow things up in a fantasy world. Well it's because it's fun and entertaining. As for all gamers failing in life, that's bunk and he knows it. I've played for many years and I only would really say my life revolved around a game once in my life. One time in my life, everything was bad for a few months, so my whole world was Mortal Kombat 4, but that was many years ago and I'm very greatful to the game for taking me out of a crappy reality. This man is old and old fashioned and he's just wrong. It helps you escape the real world when everything is bad and is a very good source of entertainment.

However, it did really irritate me when he said that these games were like drugs and alcohol. These games are not at all like that. If they were, you couldn't play and then drive. They don't turn players into the living dead, like drugs do, and that's what I was complaining about a few posts ago. Some countries ban these innocent games as though they were drugs and alcohol. They don't have the damaging effects of drugs and alcohol, so the entire notion is ridiculous. That misconception is very dangerous to our games and I hope no one buys it. Then again, Bill O Reilly is no Jack Thompson, so I don't think we have to worry about him as much as about Jack Thompson. He doesn't write letters to judges and politicians trying to get games banned, but he represents the kind of thinking that is behind it and that's not good.
O'Reilly doesn't seem to consider that the violent crime rate has fallen substantially in the last ten years, moreso since the PS2 came out.
Move along, people, nothing to see hear. Just the delusional ramblings of another Luddite.
Fuck him.

That is all.
This is just an, "I want to say something that will anger some people on a topical subject to boost my audience."

He's done this before with other things and will do it again. That's how these people try to earn their living...
Too many documentaries on MMO addiction plus lack of interaction with real gamers = these views.

From his unusual views I would suggest that it is he who does not 'know what his neighbor looks like', when you consider how many hard-working American adults play video games today.
Guess who has been in a cave on Mars with his eyes shut and his fingers in his ears and yelling, "LALALALA!!!" for the past couple decades.
Bill O’Reilly is a fool. Playing Video games does NOT mean you are going to fail in life. And how are the jihadists conected with video games? It makes no sense.
"Basically what you have is a large portion of the population...who don’t deal with reality"

well, its good to know he knows what hes talking about.
For someone who recently bitched and complained about the violence in today's horror movies, it's hard to take him seriously anymore.
Don't worry O'Reilly, with the extent of technology there will soon be at least one game in which you can kiss a lot of ass and lie through your teeth which will help gamers become successful, just like you.
Wow, that was a rant. "I'd never own an iPod"? What the hell is he talking about? Listening to an iPod is beneath him? How's about a record player? I didn't hear him say anything about the dangers of watching T.V., I wonder why?

"did you ever talk to these computer geeks? I mean, can you carry on a conversation with them?" What the hell are you talking about? You should leave the nerds alone O 'reilly, I've heard that one day they may get their revenge.

I guess he has a bad case of Technophobia.
In all fairness, there are a lot of people on the interw3bs who could stand to turn off the games for a while and spend the time learning to spell. I think he has a point, although it be buried under layers of bothersome hyperbole and exaggeration.
I live in Ireland, and as a result am not exposed to Bill O'Reilly on a regular basis. Whenever his name pops up, it's always attached to some kind of insane rambling. Boycott France! War on Christmas! Some kind of connection between videogames and Jihad! To me he seems like some kind of crazy fictional character!
His site has a *picture* of an iPod on the main page next to the "give me money please" link. I would call him a hypocrite, but then I doubt he has any real say in what goes on his site other than his rants. He must have a web team doing the work for him, because there's no way on earth this guy actually uses the internet.
It's like he just had a bunch of seals roll balls around with the names of random things and the ones that ended up in a certain area he picked to use in his rant about video games. I mean, this rant reminds me of when the New York Times critiqued American Dad for having an episode about masturbation on September 11th. It's like a connect the dots drawing where there is no numbers 4 through 7.
WHAT?!? Ok, we're all doomed because we have PS3s and iPods and the Jihadists don't because they're too busy killing folks? Good going, idiot. You had to just connect terrorism to not-playing video games. In that same train of thought, playing video games stops terrorism. Stop hating America, Bill. Let us play video games because we're FREE to do it. Just like you're FREE to say stupid stuff.

So, when do we send a huge shipment of 360s to Iraq?
"did you ever talk to these computer geeks? I mean, can you carry on a conversation with them?”
How about the 'computer geeks' who are running all the technology for his show. Maybe he should fire them all and run it himself...oh wait, he probably isn't smart enough to run it.
Its gonna be said sooner or later:

O RLY?
What? I thought video games taught people to be hardcore killers. Everyone keeps saying that, so if the people of the US of A are falling into the video game world, doesn't that mean we should have a country of harden killers? Those jihadists better watch out, those computer geeks are gonna be kicking some ass soon.
Clicked too soon. I was just trying to get the point across, are we gonna be violent killers from playing this game or mindless zombies? Can't these people make up their mind.
"In the past to flee the real world people usually chose drugs or alcohol… now you don’t have to do that, Now all you have to do is have enough money to buy a machine…"

Because nobody uses drugs or alcohol anymore. Especially not teens/20-somethings. And drugs? They were CHEAP! Same with booze.

"So they don’t know what day it is; they don’t know temperature it is; they don’t know what their neighbor looks like."

It's Saturday, it's 38 degrees outside, the neighbor on my left is a middle aged, heavy black woman with 4 or 5 teenage kids and her husband. The neighbor on my right is a 30something thin, tallish black woman with lots of friends over all the time and 5 kids or so. The neighbor across the street is a 20 or 30 year old thin, short white woman who I've seen outside once... But maybe I'm just the statistical anomaly...

"It has a video game console, plays DVDs, connects you to the Internet, tells you how handsome you are. It’s six-hundred bucks. "

I bet Bill has something that costs at least 600 bucks, plays DVDs, connects you to the Internets, tells you how handsome you are and plays video games. (The PS3 tells you how handsome you are? Wha?)

"Now people lined up for hours to get this thing. Hours!"

People lined up to see Santa for hours. People lined up for hours to see (band). People lined up for hours to see Star Wars (and other movies)...

"because if you spend all your youth being prisoners of machines….. you’re not going to know anything…."

Oh THAT explains why nobody in my generation has a college degree or a job! It makes sense!

"the jihadists? They’re not playing the video games."

I thought they were playing video games?
bill o'reilly is nothing but a biased conservative douchebag,and its pretty sad that little shitbag is afraid of technology,when the real thing thats destroying life is the bullshit he spews out of that mouth of his.
(Basically what you have is a large portion of the population, mostly younger people under the age of 45, who don’t deal with reality - ever. So they don’t know what day it is; they don’t know temperature it is; they don’t know what their neighbor looks like. They don’t know anything… because they are constantly diverted by a machine. Now what this does is it takes a person away from reality because they’ve created their own reality…)

I am a videogame addict. I am a rabid GTA fan. I DO know what today is.
(Saturday November 18, 2006)
I DO know who my neighbours are.
I KNOW quite a bit.

(The newest thing is the PlayStation 3. Now this is a machine that allows you to play games in hi-def and all this other stuff… It’s the newest state of the art system from Sony…. It has a video game console, plays DVDs, connects you to the Internet, tells you how handsome you are. It’s six-hundred bucks. Now people lined up for hours to get this thing. Hours!)

It doesnt tell how hansome you are STUPID!
Actually It plays PS3, PS2, and PSX games, DVD, and BLu-Ray. It's a friggin computer that plays videogames on your TV. And a good computer that does all that can cost more than a thousand dollars. This is actually cheaper. And people will line up for anything. New videogame consoles, Harry Potter, Movies,etc.

(The problem with this stuff is that some people can deal with it constructively… but other people get addicted to it, just like opium, just like drugs and alcohol… So this is a big, big problem. It’s going to change every single thing in this country.)

What, becuase you don't understand it?

(The have-nots are growing. Why are they growing? Because the skill set that is necessary to earn a decent living is being deemphasized in a fantasy world of football games and shooting zombies and all that…. Now you have the “knows” and the “know-nots”, because if you spend all your youth being prisoners of machines….. you’re not going to know anything…. You’re gonna fail.)

And you know this becuase...

(I don’t own an iPod. I would never wear an iPod… If this is your primary focus in life - the machines… it’s going to have a staggeringly negative effect, all of this, for America…)

Like what?

(did you ever talk to these computer geeks? I mean, can you carry on a conversation with them? …)

Have you really tried? What about the computer geeks that run your stupid show?

(I really fear for the United States because, believe me, the jihadists? They’re not playing the video games. They’re killing real people over there.)

So we should be killing people over here too? Just what are you saying here?

Just another old, out of touch asshole who is trying to talk about something that he doesen't know anything about.

Hey O'Reilly, STFU!

- Warren Lewis
You see, I'm not angry at what he said. It's Bill O'Reilly, after all... But in fact I'm sincerely HAPPY of his anti-game bashing.

You know why ? Actually, I have no problem having things in common with someone I strongly disagree with (or even despise). And on the opposite, I have no problem having serious points of disagreement with someone I love or deeply respect, although I can regret it. This is why I'm happy about the French culture minister's policy supporting video games, although this is almost the only thing I approve of him.

But in the case of O'Reilly... I'm glad that his rant on videogames, gamers, etc... confirms exactly what I think of him. And I really prefer to disagree with him on that subject.
@Bissel

(Warning: About to generalize based on personal observation)

Nono, it's the left wingers who believe that people, such as jihadists, only do bad things when forced to do so by the influence of evil, such as guns or video games. Thus, ban guns video games and people will become paragons of virtue.

The right wingers prefer to think that people are responsible for their own actions. Therefore, if they attack games, it's because they think we should quit with the fake stuff and start living a "real" life, full of responsible activity.
Mr. O'reilly

A) Google the words "Tickle Me Elmo". Slap in the face, isn't it?

B) You're using a machine to get your message out. Those same machines had people just like you in the past deliver the same message. How many slaps can you take?

C) I live in an apartment. I know all my neighbors except one. Scratch that, we became friends when he saw me come home with an EB Games bag. This is close to a TKO.

D) As a personal trainer I have to help clients through such issues as obesity, family illness histories, anorexia, depression, and all the social ills from being out of shape to all the social ills of being in shape. I also just found out my ex-girlfriend (whom I wanted to marry) is now pregnant with a guy who is unemployed. Don't tell me I don't deal with reality.
What O’ Reilly seems to be overlooking is the fact that the majority of the people in line are not gamers. They’re overzealous parents and wannabe entrepreneurs. They’re either trying to get a console for their kids or are looking to make uber-profit selling it on Ebay.

Games ain’t the catalyst to the madness. It’s greed.


Andrew
Some gamer is o going to h4xx0r Bill's site.

You know it's going to happen.
"The have-nots are growing. Why are they growing? Because the skill set that is necessary to earn a decent living is being deemphasized in a fantasy world of football games and shooting zombies and all that…. "

I thought it was because Bush and co. was laying thier fiddles on the white house roof while the corperations ran off with the jobs....or are you saying you have to go to collage 3 time and have 3 or 5 degress and BAs in this and that jsut to be middle class....mmmmm
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"American society is changing for the worse because of the machines…"
All societies grow and change over time.......
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""I don’t own an iPod. I would never wear an iPod… If this is your primary focus in life - the machines… it’s going to have a staggeringly negative effect, all of this, for America… did you ever talk to these computer geeks? I mean, can you carry on a conversation with them? …I really fear for the United States because, believe me, the jihadists? They’re not playing the video games. They’re killing real people over there.""
So what your saying is you would be more happy if teens and kids were on drugs and killing each other daily??.....then of corse you would say

*I am sitting here,watching them....playing )these games((takeing drugs and killing each other)...and I cant do a thing to stop it*
sad sad little man O'rilye...sad ....you are now Rush Jr....
@Rigor Mortis

-- No no, what I meant was, I thought the jihadists were coming out with various video games (I don't remember the titles off the top of my head...) (and the 9-11-01 hijackers, I thought, trained a little on Flight Simulator)
'did you ever talk to these computer geeks? I mean, can you carry on a conversation with them?'

....He has obviously never bothered. Maybe it's because 'Computer Geeks' have access to things he can't understand, like, possibly, the fact there's such a thing as the 'rest of the world'?
I like how he blames people not having jobs on things like "the job-seekers sit around playing games all day" and not "the job-givers outsourced everything overseas where people work for pennies on the dollar."
Sorry for the double post, but try talking to a musician about Music or a Quantum Physicist about Quantum Physics. You'll soon get lost.

Is it the other persons fault for knowing more than you Bill?
Does the man ever realize what he says? I know my old Current Events teacher liked hearing him (maybe to find something to either talk about as discussion or just to contest with his thoughts), but god does he like his own voice.

There are people out there that specify with the field of their choice. Business men like to talk about business, while artists like to discuss things about art. It should be a no-brainer that Computer "geeks" enjoy talking about computers. The field is so wide-spread that it extends the arms to more than one field to know (Computer hardware, software, programing, etc) so it's no surprise that gamer's would discuss things on gaming. It's the whole human psyche of likes and dislikes that make unique beings co-exist with others that do the very same.

...some may call it friendship, or maybe even love.
Well I do agree with him on the fact that those people who would wait outside a wal-mart for three days straight are just douchebags that probably have no lives (besides the ones that are getting them to sell on eBay) Everything else he says is just like all the other rants he screams out, utter crap. So instead of games we need to do drugs and drink? Instead of games we need to pull a jihad and kill people? Wha? That's just crazy, even for him. What is really odd to me is his apparent technophobia (which has already been stated) about things like Ipods. Of course we are dependant on machines Mr. Bill, and that's a bad thing? What about cars, medical equipment, and of course the ultimate escapism machine ever made, the tv. This makes me wonder if he even knows how to use the internet.
Going off topic for a second I just want to say some republican conservatives are alright, the party has just been hijacked by the religious right. Most of them are focused on what conservatives were supposed to do, which is balance the budget and help the country economically. Now I'm an independant but I just wanted to get the word out that Bill O Reilly doesn't represent all of republican conservatives, but he does appeal to an awful lot of human messes.
All in all Bill O' Reilly= Irrelevant Douche
[...] Via: GamePolitics.com - Bill O’Reilly Slams PS3 Launch, Gamers, iPods, Digital Tech (not in that order) [...]
At one time O'rilye was right leaning but had alot of common sense that made sense now he has to try hard to meet the expectations of the base hes pandering to and well...hes becoem rush......
Ok. Deep, calming breaths everyone. I was irritated when I read the article myself; but I think we need to look at what is, in my opinion, the underlying point.

As a society we have become incredibly reliant upon machines for everything. I'm not saying that's good or bad but it does present certain problems that we've never had before.

Lets look at the recent mutli-day lines and some of the ensuing violence that broke out with the release of the PS3 for example. It IS a little nuts to wait outside a store for three or more days just so you can get a PS3 before someone else. Its even more nuts to shoot someone over it. These can be seen as an example of spme people thinking that a game system has more importance than a human life. I mean what employer is going to be ok with you taking off that many days of work just so you can buy a game system?

There's also the problem of addiction. There are people out there who become so enamored of a game, MMO, or similair product that they lose their sense of self. I don't know how common it is, but it can happen and we need to acknowledge it.

I'm a traditionalist myself, anyone here who knows me will know that about me. I can see where Mr. O'Riely is coming from, though I may not agree with all of it. Yelling and cursing him out solves nothing. The matter needs to be approached without condescention and a mind open to the debate. Otherwise we're just handing the anti-game crowd a victory before the fight's even won.
American society is changing for the worse because of the machines… In the past to flee the real world people usually chose drugs or alcohol… now you don’t have to do that, Now all you have to do is have enough money to buy a machine…

This is a good thing, you can not get arrested for drving after 6 hours of heavy video game playing (unless it causes you to be sleepy), a video game addiciton doesn't support drug dealers, video games don't need to be smuggled into this country. With games you can turn the game off and go back to the real world in a flash you cannot become sober or not high in an instant. Also a heavy addict would probably spend more money on drugs than a hardcore gamer.

Basically what you have is a large portion of the population, mostly younger people under the age of 45, who don’t deal with reality - ever. So they don’t know what day it is; they don’t know temperature it is; they don’t know what their neighbor looks like. They don’t know anything… because they are constantly diverted by a machine.

So basically anyone under the age of 45 is stupid and can't tell the difference between reality and fiction? Keep talking O'Reily you're doing a great job of making people think you're senile.

Now what this does is it takes a person away from reality because they’ve created their own reality…

The same thing could be said about every novel ever made well actually it can't because with novels you go into a reality someone has created for you, instead of having to create one as you said.

The newest thing is the PlayStation 3. Now this is a machine that allows you to play games in hi-def and all this other stuff… It’s the newest state of the art system from Sony…. It has a video game console, plays DVDs, connects you to the Internet, tells you how handsome you are. It’s six-hundred bucks. Now people lined up for hours to get this thing. Hours!

Days would be a lot more accurate, and I do believe people camped out for star wars movies.

The problem with this stuff is that some people can deal with it constructively… but other people get addicted to it, just like opium, just like drugs and alcohol… So this is a big, big problem. It’s going to change every single thing in this country.

People get addicted to a bunch of stuff,as stated before people can get addicted to golf. 'It's going to change everything in the country' is an exxageration at best.

The have-nots are growing. Why are they growing? Because the skill set that is necessary to earn a decent living is being deemphasized in a fantasy world of football games and shooting zombies and all that…. Now you have the “knows” and the “know-nots”, because if you spend all your youth being prisoners of machines….. you’re not going to know anything…. You’re gonna fail.

Please show me an example of a youth who spends every single second playing games. You can;t then be quiet. Oh and calling gamers know-nots shows just how senile you are (especially when you use the term know-nots).

Bill keeps talking about being prisoner of machines and not understandingh reality because of machines. I think he's been watching too many Terminator movies.
O RLY?
Bill O Riely:

-Control freak
-The type of guy who would burn new technology and call it 'witchcraft'
-That guy from the TGI Friday's commercial (the one with the guy using that old 70's cell phone)
-Trying to be the new Jack.
-But is more like the new Joseph McCarthy.

"Trouble coming everyday."
Yup, his name reminds me of O'RLY too....

You know, if Bill would have used the anonimity of the internet a few years back, maybe he wouldn't have had to pay off that one woman that he tried to force into dirty conversations.

O'RLY's a dick about 90% of the time, but there is an occasional moment where he says something that's either right or agreeable with. If I had a choice as to who to send to the moon without any oxygen or a space suit between him and Nancy Grace, it'd be a hard choice though I think I'd favor ol'Tweety.
Let me one up that

I ask: O RLY?
And he responds: YA RLY!
I am shocked: NO WAI!
Isn't Bill O'Reilly's core audience people who have a hard time dealing with reality? You'd think he wouldn't be insulting them.

Ironic isn't it that O'Reilly makes his living by diverting people's attention with a machine that lets them escape from reality?

Using drugs and alcohol to escape reality is a better choice than video games? He didn't come right out and say it, but he certainly implied it.
Please PHOENIXZERO, don't make me vomit at the thought of Nancy Grace. Don't mean to sound sexist but she is a real bitch.

Anyways, I'm kind of sick of this mindless fear of technological and cultural advancement.
"I FEAR CHANGE!!"
I'm not standing on either side of this fence, but I can certainly see where he is coming from.

I know some kids that put their livelihoods (jobs) and educations (college) at risk just to get in line for a Playstation. Skipping out on work or school for a videogame is ridiculous, no matter how you slice it. Let's stop ignoring the fact that we all know people like this. Sure, O'Reilly was a bit extreme with his rant, but he has a point to a certain extent.

We all know some of those kids that spend way too much time on games, MMOs, Live Action RPGs, or just pen and paper RPGs. Some of those kids can't have normal conversations outside of games, and we all know this to be true. We should acknowledge this fact and say, while they are some people like that, it's not the complete truth. I, for one, had a roommate who did nothing but play World of Warcraft. He played, all night, every night. When I was getting up to go to class, he was going to bed because he had just played 13 hours straight. Needless to say, it wasn't long before he flunked out. And I know several people who follow this pattern. We have to stop acting like this isn't true.

Also, on the IPOD. I met a guy who said he didn't feel like a real college student until he had one. Come on. That's ridiculous. People are getting too concerned with technology and letting it define who they are. It's a problem that we have to deal with. Get over it. Sure O'Reilly says a lot of nonsense, but he made some valid points in his argument.
Bill O'Reilly == Career Troll
I am an avid gamer, and I do believe that gaming is an addiction. Activities like video gaming can put you on a dopamine high, and once you pop, you can't stop. And neither does the fun. Well done, Bill.

Alas, may I direct you to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_addiction.
Did he just say video games were worse than alcohol and drugs?

I swear, Bill O'Reilly has to be one of the stupidest humans alive today. He thinks WE have social issues and aare unaware of our surroundings, he should take a look in the mirror. RRRGGH! It makes me so angry. I take this as a personal insult.

"Can you carry on a conversation with them?"

Yep, yep I can. I often-times do, since talking to people like Bill O'Reilly is like debating with a log...except that's probably insulting the logs of the world.
@Heath Richards

In reference to supposed game addiction related deaths: pics or it didn't happen.
Well, you are not going to believe this. I found some one who believes it! Believes it! Agrees with O'Reilly! I don't think I could stress that enough!

And the irony? He's arguing about it. On the Internet. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure computers qualify under the definition of machines. Along with the fact everything we own is manufactured with the aid of machines.
@Heath J. Chaney

Well, I'm willing to bet that you are a damn troll. If you can come up with some sufficient evidence, I think the GP community would be most grateful, as the link you gave LEADS TO NOTHING. It just leads to an article that doesn't exist on the WP page.
Heath J. Chaney
same for movies same for books same for date....anything can give you that rush ...so should we never leave our caves or think so we will never be flustered??
[...] Damn, so by me listening to my iPod and playing Gears of War, I’m contributing to terrorism? Is there nothing a young man can do to past the time besides spend it with real people? Source: [GamePolitics] [...]
"Addicted to a machine" look who's talking. If the video camera had a dick O'Reilly would suck it.
O'Reilly is quite brilliant, really.

He says things to say things, and to get a rise out of people, which is what he's done.

Unless I've missed something and completely overestimated his intelligence.

...Taking Bill O'Reilly at face value leaves me with a cheapened feeling.
Bill O'reilly is a fat-cat putz who wishes it was still 1950. I'd bet you money I know more about the future of the world economy, the state of technology, the sociology behind it's effects, and how to perform the Infinite 1-Up on Super Mario bros way more than he does.

Wake up Bill! TV is color now, there are no real cowboys, and you're still just a blowhard sitting in your little media room in the world YOU created by surrounding yourself with Reublican yes-men.

Get off my ass about my hobbies and grow some 'nads.
[...] Conservative pundit Bill O’Reilly slammed gamers and iPod users on his show this week arguing that PS3 creates a generation of delinquents who are out of touch with reality. Says O’Reilly: In the past to flee the real world people usually chose drugs or alcohol… now you don’t have to do that, Now all you have to do is have enough money to buy a machine. [...]
Bill Gates is a gamer, Is his life a dead end?

There is a saying "don't dis' it until you have tried it" I seriously doubt that O'Reilly has played a single game in his life with an open mind. And people vote for bush..

Why are people like O'Reilly on TV?
O'Rile-er is up tight because he fell for the straight life , booze and drugs instead of counter culture web games ...and now all us under 45 will pay. ..O'Riler must be over 45? ....I can see it now and soon..."drop-outs" that become gamers, and then gamer love-ins, then exploited gamers and gamer backlash...THEN "Gamer-Detox"...and "Gamer Half-Way Houses" and "Gamer Welfare"..OH no! its the sixties all over again and O'Really missed it again. There is no justice for a "American Lame" anymore....hey man ...try the evangelists, they love negative , lost souls like you.
Wasn't TV, his medium of choice, recently thought of as the vacuum sucking American values away? How long before he has his own game?
"I really fear for the United States because, believe me, the jihadists? They’re not playing the video games. They’re killing real people over there." How so very insulting to anyone who is a fan of video games. Bill I would love you to have a sit down with me. I feel like I could really help you "grow-up" a little bit. As I get older I grow more and more afraid of how every generation befor me didn't have a clue either.
[...] GamePolitics.com caught this gem from the Radio Factor with Bill O’Reilly: I don’t own an iPod. I would never wear an iPod… If this is your primary focus in life - the machines… it’s going to have a staggeringly negative effect, all of this, for America… did you ever talk to these computer geeks? I mean, can you carry on a conversation with them? …I really fear for the United States because, believe me, the jihadists? They’re not playing the video games. They’re killing real people over there. [...]
im suprised that bag of wind didn't go the pearl harbor 2 route
I love that terminator 44 can't even spell, but he can talk about luddites. That just makes my day. What an ass.
I generally disagree with Bill O'Reilly, but I agree with him 100 percent on this. Frankly I'm disappointed with those members of my generation who choose sloth over the active pursuit of self-education and productive contributions to our society.
[...] Well…  Apparently Bill O’Reilly believes there’s something fundamentally evil about computer geeks.  The iPod and all the other fancy technology we have today is leading to America’s downfall.  Somehow it all leads back to the jihadists in the middle-east…but I’m not quite sure how… [...]
[...] Then, he bashed video gamers, which is fine and dandy, until you realize this his employer forked out $650 million for IGN, the largest video game publisher. [...]
I like that once I pose a conflicting opinion, I am classified as a "troll". And, OldschoolVgamer, by the way, the link I provided had a period on the end of it, so that's why it led nowhere.

Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_addiction
Why am I bothering to post? What percentage of humanoids are going to read any of these comments?

I suppose commenting gives a warm fuzzy feeling to those posting.

For me, it is a cheap thrill. In fact... so thrilling I think I just wet myself.

If I had a tail it would be wagging wildly.

Gotta' remember that O'Reilly is merely an entertainer. The lad has to attract and keep enough viewers so that advertising revenues will continue. O'Reilly is wealthier than the majority of Americans and ALL of us add to his substantial wealth, even if we do not watch his TV show or listen to his radio blabbering.

Advertising costs are passed along in the costs of goods and services. Doesn't that make you feel so warm and fuzzy!!!! All of us are assisting the already-wealthy to become richer vis those ad costs passed along.

For those performing the tasks that make the USA function on a daily basis your wages have been stagnating or falling for years while the already-wealthy have seen a HUGE increase in their wealth.

But, things are as they should be!!!! The elite class is doing fine and continue to spit in the faces of the masses!!!!
I wrote a short piece about this at:

http://www.elandty.com/ep/home/blog.php?id=12

If anyone wants to read my two cents.
Reminds of the idiot in the movie "V for Vendetta".. you now the one....the talk show host who spews idiocy for the sake of the government?

Very amusing. Its good to see that free speech is alive and well.
The trackbacks aren't apparently working, so here you go: http://warriorvisions.blogspot.com/2006/11/bill-oreilly-talk-to-me.html
Your Wiki source was branded with this:

"The factual accuracy of this article or section is disputed.

Please see the relevant discussion on the talk page."

This suggests to me that the information isn't neccesarly of the unbiased sort which wikipedia strives for. That combined with the warning about neutrality of the article suggests that the article is less then credible.
[...] Bill O’Reilly Slams PS3 Launch, Gamers, iPods, Digital Tech (not in that order) [via] GamePolitics.com [...]
To be honest, those warnings weren't there when I first visited the site last week, and you're right. But all I'm trying to say is, at least have an open mind to the idea that video games may be addictive to some people.

Oh, and thanks for not calling me a troll. :)
Oh and let’s not forget the military, simply supporting our soldiers and staff isn’t good enough, we must gather our collective psychic power and beam love and joy over to them through means of magic arse crystals.

Magic? Crystals? Sounds like you've been playing that Finally Fantasies game thing. That's just the sort of game the terrorists want us playing. While they're there shooting bombs and dropping bullets on us, you're going to be there trying to summon Ifrit, and then we'll all be dead because he's not real.

You people make me sick.
What's wrong with the iPod?

I just use mine to listen to beautiful music, from pop to classics, plus some family pix and the odd video.

The man is really very odd.
O'Reilly used to be somewhat more moderate now im convinced, hes lost it. Oh well at least Hannity isnt nuts
[...] Oh boy. Let the mud fly. [...]
[...] Bill O
BillOReilly.com allows users to click an Apple iPod for information about how to become a "Premium Member" to enjoy audio podcasts, backstage video podcasts, and photos of Bill O'Reilly on your iPod. Also included are links and instructions for adding O'Reilly's podcasts to Apple's iTunes. More info: http://www.billoreilly.com/membership.

Tell one of your underpaid handlers to look up the definition of "hypocrite" when you get a moment, Bill, and have them explain it in simple words for you.
"It's a series of tubes!"
Senator Ted Stevens (R-Alaska)


I can't wait until these old, ultra-conservative types are gone for good. Let them shrivel up, and be miserable without spreading their misery to everyone else.

I really dislike Conservative Republicans. *They* are what is wrong with this country. Selfish bastards!
[...] Now, this amuses me to no end.  iPods and Jihad… I don’t see a correlation, but what do I know? I don’t own an iPod. I would never wear an iPod… If this is your primary focus in life  - the machines… it’s going to have a staggeringly negative effect, all of this, for America… did you ever talk to these computer geeks? I mean, can you carry on a conversation with them? …I really fear for the United States because, believe me, the jihadists? They’re not playing the video games. They’re killing real people over there. [...]
The Buddhist , say when you die if you bad ,you come back as a lower life.
A rat sound like miserable O'Reillys rebrith.
Who is Bill O'Reilly and why does anybody care?
@Heath J. Chaney

OK, it's my fault. I thought you were just trolling as you stated something with a link that was off making me think it was an opinion. I was just too busy at the time to notice that it had a period in it. I was doing something else at that moment and I was kind of thrown off. Sorry for that. :)

I fully well know that gaming can be an addiction, but as Ashla said the article may be slanted and non-neutral which is common to some Wikipedia pages making them either biased or advertising (take it from an on and off amateur editor there), so I'm not so sure of the accuracy of info there.

"I am an avid gamer, and I do believe that gaming is an addiction. Activities like video gaming can put you on a dopamine high, and once you pop, you can’t stop. And neither does the fun. Well done, Bill."

In a matter of semantics, you said you "believe that gaming IS an addiction" when considering the sentence afterwards say it "CAN put you on a dopamine high", the first should be "gaming CAN BE an addiction" but not necessarily IS. Sorry for the nitpicking there. ;)

But yes, I do agree that it can be an addiction as I have read stories of other people doing things after playing games like MMOs or over a game system such as the PS3 riots prove.

Also, the fact that a dopamine high can cause people to come back for more and not be able to stop is true (although I'm not a science expert so I wouldn't know so I'll just use the WP info here), but then again the effects of anything with the brain ranges from person to person as you probably already know.

A person could walk away from a game addiction feeling withdrawal symptoms and anger, while other addicts might not feel or do anything different from what they normally do if they didn't have the addiction. It greatly depends on other factors like the environment and way they grew up and were raised that would factor in as well. So the term "game addiction" and it's definition and effects is up for question depending on who you ask. Science can't explain everything

But, I think that these people who can't talk to anyone normally or riot over a PS3 are game addicts that took it way too far in a direction of depending on a machine, whichever they chose, to be their source of satisfaction, social life, and the thing they wanted, choosing either anti-social behaivor or violence which isn't healthy. People prone to stuff like this over A DAMN MACHINE need help badly either medically, physically and/or psychologically.

Just my two cents and sorry for the long rant. These are just my two cents and I may be wrong considering those people who may not feel effects from game addiction may not have a game addiction but game obsession.
He is what's wrong with America. Another loud-mouth complainer out for publicity. Sad. Very sad.

"You aren't fixing anything Bill. You are not doing anyone but yourself a service."

"Be a doer not a nagger."
Yeah Bill is right! All children want to do these days is listen to the grunge music and ride around on skatingboards! In my day children had the common sense to work 25 hours a day in the coal mines. But kids today would rather use the Walkmans then die of blacklung. Lazy good for nothings.
[...] …and not because of how I voted two weeks ago. Nope, Bill-O has reached full blown “kids on mah lawn!” mode blaming the inevitable fall of all things American on “the machines” and specifically video games and iPods. Pretty soon he’ll be ranting about TV and that Rock and/or Roll all the kids are hooked on. [...]
Whats really funny, is after reading most of these posts, most posts just make O'Reilly llok more and more right. Sad
wanna know why bill dont like comps? bill works for the machine and he loves every co*ksuckin minuite of it, the longer you play games watch movies and listen to music the longer your not listening to the propaganda box with people like him on it telling you what you should think is right and wrong. you create your own reality for a little while, whats wrong with that, its not as if the real reality is any better.
in bill's words - "They don’t know anything… because they are constantly diverted by a machine". i may be a hardcore gamer but I do know that the machine im typing this post on gives me to access any news source from anywhere in the world in an instant, giving me access to 100000 times more independent information than any TV channel would ever provide and, more importantly, without a slanted,distorted or bias to it.
i stopped watching tv months ago and rarely read a newspaper and you know something? the world is a whole lot different when you find your own news. people dont need a bill o'RLY or a bill fu&king anyone to tell them the news while chucking in their (or their network's) two cents in on top.
Does anyone have the full transcript of that rant? I want to give a copy of it to some O'Reilly fans who "don't believe he'd say something like that" but I don't care to give O'Reilly my money to do it.
[...] This right wing idiot has been spouting off for years now. His latest rant against video games (and ipods and pretty much any of those evil "machines" as he calls them) really takes the cake though [...]
What's good for the goose is good for the gander, I say. Bill wants to declare a boycott on all those things he claims he offended by (phone sex apparently not being one of them)? Fine. Let's do as he says and fight the "real enemy".

It's time for a good, ol'fashioned Podcast burning. Light'em up!

http://warriorvisions.blogspot.com/2006/11/burn-podcast-to-show-bill-you...
[...] And in further news, technology (i.e., your ipod) is evil because it’s used for escapism: http://gamepolitics.com/2006/11/18/bill-oreilly-slams-playstation-3-laun... [...]
wow...that has to be one of the most ignorant things i've ever read. "did you ever talk to these computer geeks? I mean, can you carry on a conversation with them?" What the hell is up with this comment? I would consider myself a geek, and granted we have our own lingo, but I find it just as easy to get my point across as the next public speaker. Apparently our vocabulary isn't as sophisticated or as refined as his is, but when I talk, I at least know what I'm talking about and don't base it off of unbiased, unfounded assumptions that you can't defend with anything other than, its my opinion or I think...Jeez even the specialist didn't agree with you. Crawl back into the dark hole you came out of because nobody cares what your opinion is. Do your homework next time.
I'm of the same generation as that fool, O'Reilly. I am so glad that so many of you are wise to this moron!

If I met him socially, I would bawl him out in a VERY loud voice for being such a jug-headed, wonky-eared, bullshit-sprewin' BULLY!

He's my generation's stereotypical "cranky old fart". Feel free to disregard any claims he makes to be in a no-spin zone. The man is constantly spinning, which is what makes him so god-damned dizzy.
[...] [Transcript courtesy of GamePolitics.com] American society is changing for the worse because of the machines… In the past to flee the real world people usually chose drugs or alcohol… now you don’t have to do that, Now all you have to do is have enough money to buy a machine… [...]
I find Bill very entertaining. He basically beats himself over the head with his own arguments.

In reality, Bill's propaganda/ideaolgy has completed removed him from 'the real world'. He sees the world through these crazy filters that distorts everything toward the 'demento' spectrum. He is not capable of making a rational decision and lives in his own 'bubble' world where video gamers will be crushed by the amassing Jihadist army...he probably feels quite at peace as no doubt Jesus will fly down on a cloud and pick him up before things get too uncomfortable.
Tell Bill that President Bush owns an iPod. How about the folks that buy all of Bill's books and get them autographed, printed books made by machines? Bill has every right to rant and rave since that's what the USA is all about. Remind Bill that the machines is what puts his face on the airwaves and sends him a paycheck! ;-)
[...] Not content to leave the video game bashing to Democrats like Hillary and Joementum, Bill O’Reilly has decided to turn luddite, and open fire on gaming and technology, in the process demanding that all of you kids get off of his lawn. GamePolitics has the story, complete with money quotes: Basically what you have is a large portion of the population, mostly younger people under the age of 45, who don’t deal with reality - ever. So they don’t know what day it is; they don’t know temperature it is; they don’t know what their neighbor looks like. They don’t know anything… because they are constantly diverted by a machine. Now what this does is it takes a person away from reality because they’ve created their own reality… [...]
Okay, so Mr. O'Reilly probably needs to be told that the US armed forces actually love for recruits to be hardcore video gamers. To fly satellites that do recon, to fly drones that do recon or drop bombs on people like members of Al Queda, who clearly don't play video games (must be why Katusha rockets never hit anything), to flying airplanes that slam smart missiles down the throats of America's enemies, to infantrymen using heavy automatic weapons, nightvision goggles - oh, the list goes on but maybe I should just say two words that Mr. O'Reilly will probably have to eat real soon - "SPLINTER OPS". What a stupid f**k. I have an alternative reality he should look into - it's called IRAQ. Suit up soldier, and bring your frackin' Xbox 360.
[...] The following comes from a rant by Fox’s Bill O’Reilly during his radio show, The Radio Factor, with Bill O’Reilly. In this little rant, O’Reilly slams people who “wear” iPods as technogeeks whose primary focus in life is entertainment instead of… killing people? I don’t own an iPod. I would never wear an iPod… If this is your primary focus in life - the machines… it’s going to have a staggeringly negative effect, all of this, for America… did you ever talk to these computer geeks? I mean, can you carry on a conversation with them? …I really fear for the United States because, believe me, the jihadists? They’re not playing the video games. They’re killing real people over there. [...]
anyone else wonder if sony actually paid the guy? the rant offers some odd choices - "Now this is a machine that allows you to play games in hi-def and all this other stuff… It’s the newest state of the art system from Sony…. It has a video game console, plays DVDs, connects you to the Internet,"...

i mean, it sounds like a plug for the damn thing!?
[...] Read about it here with a rebuttal from Arik Hesseldahl here who points out that Ronald Regan thought games are great, they can train soldiers for USA to use. Excuse me, I’m off to play America’s Army and draft myself up for the next Operation Iraqi Liberation (OIL) war. [...]
Looks like somebody's grumpy about midterm elections.
Hmmm...O'Riley.com doesn't seem to be below bowing to the Throne of Jobs to peddle his Podcasts. I wonder if he naturally exempts those who listen to his dribble on an iPod from the delusional masses? Being of a generation that has had to aculture new technology on a weekly basis, I would submit that we have had to be more intelligent than a kid from, say 50 years ago learning to plow a field with a mule. With the myriad of devices, utilities, interfaces, and code languages I have been forced to build not only a acumen for logic, but also an ability to ingest material and process much more quickly than previous generations. Consider Code for example. Bash, HTML, PHP, JAVA and C# are a few that I dabble in. Agreed that they share some conventions, but each also carries it's own unique reserve words and nuances. I wonder if Mr. O'riley can debug a class or create a relational database? How about the refresh rate on technology in general? Every 18 months I learn something new about prosessor or storage technology; the radio has been the same for 50 years...yeah I think it's Bill that has his head in the sand. I bet his top-loading VCR still blinks 12:00...Face it Bill; We're smarter that you give us credit for and smarter than you'll ever be.
Wow, this guy needs to go actually meet some gamers so he knows what he's talking about before spouting that sort of crap.

OH SHIT GUYS, I'M A GAMER WITH FRIENDS AND SKILLS HANDY FOR AN OCCUPATION! HOW COULD THIS BE?
[...] Click to read it. [...]
O'Reilly is a stupid cunt.

It really is as simple as that.
Wow, thanks for the advice Mr O'Reilly! From now on I think i will flee the real world OLD SCHOOL style!

*goes to take drugs and drink booze*
- Dang! those damn machines.. I don't get them.. they are evil!!

But now a lot of people can read his rants, because of these machines!
Nobody would hear him if these machines was not here!

So Billy boy, you should send a big 'thank you' to the machines and the tubes on the internet! :)
Neophobe. His kind are the same type of people who argued that we shouldn't build airplanes because "if god wanted us to fly he would've given us wings".
Hey, these machines cost less than drugs and alcohol! And there is a new "flavor" every month.

I'm much more tempted to get a PS3 now that I know it will tell me I am handsome!! Thanks Bill!
My only regret in life is that I'll probably miss the opportunity to plug myself into a VR pod and be fed intravenously while devouring the worlds knowledge.

I vote this bill guy gets the first bio implant which makes the carrier have uncontrollable hic-coughs for the rest of their dreary ignorant lives.

*hic kill me *hic kill me *hic kill me *hic kill me *hic kill me *hic kill me

*8P
WAIT A MINUTE!

has no one noticed the obvious .... what's Bill O’Reilly doing with a paysite that contains podcasts if he's totally against ipods and technology?
or does he use this tool to reach out to the "know nots" ? lol

its actually scary the amount of people in real power in both the USA and UK who are so out of touch like this.

i am from the UK. when i was younger i was in a car wreck with a friend. i had to give evidence in court to help my friend (as he was being charged with careless driving).
at one point giving evidence, the Judge asked me to estimate the distance that the other car was behind us when we stopped.
I answered with "about 200 metres".
"In feet!" demanded the judge!
"i'm sorry, i was only taught the metric system at school, i wouldnt be able to estimate accurately in inches" i replied
The judge then repeated his question and demand for it in inches, to which i replied something like ...
"You are a JUDGE, YOU should know yourself what the measurement is in both metres and inches, i dont HAVE to know"
(which was followed by a few chuckles from around the court).

It's people like this that need booted OUT of the system to make room for new and forward thinkers. The world has changed so much in the time that they have had their positions that i think it just scares them and they lash out like that.
What is he like 50? Duh he would be mad because he doesn\'t understand what video games are.
Unfortunately he does have a few points, even though I disagree that "video games are all bad", he has to realize that SOCIETY itself is fucked up, free market capitalism is a fucked up system, the lower you are on the economic totem poll the more enslaved you are, you're worse off then tribes that existed 1,000's of years ago in terms of control over where your time is spent.

He needs to look deeper at why people are checking out to drugs, alcohol, tv, and games in the first place - the society and economic social order itself.

People socialize less or socialize around virtual environments with many people they will most likely never meet.

Although he misses the positives: Isolated people who have trouble socializing without machines get some form of socialization at least esp if they live in communities far away from urban centers..
Wait a tic, I'm a computer geek.. Oh Bill, tell us how to make it all better, we've been so lost without you.. With our good jobs, lack of serious drug habits and informed decision making. Oh the humanity
Help! I have agreed with O'Rilley twice this week.

First Rupert Murdoch's disgusting deal with O.J. Simpson (Hey President Bush! What about a presidential pardon for anyone who whacks OJ? BAM BAM BAM ;-)

Second, this!
Help! I have agreed with O'Rilley twice this week.

First Rupert Murdoch's disgusting deal with O.J. Simpson (Hey President Bush! What about a presidential pardon for anyone who whacks OJ? ;-)

Second, this!
[...] Thanks to GamePolitics.com we are now privy to the knowledge that Bill O’Reilly thinks that PS3, Xbox and iPod use contributes to the downfall of the United States. [...]
where is this site's navigation? it sucks, how does one go to the main page? is there a main page?
[...] As seen in this podcast description of his frothy/ing radio show, O’Reilly’s actions clearly can have only one justification. [...]
Isn't he pushing the same views at the unibomber? Look how socially well adjusted that guy was.

You tell 'em.
[...] Everyone who is interested has probably already seen this from GamePolitics, but I figured I’d throw in a few comments on it. [...]
Couple counter points to be made.

People 45 and over are likely having a mid-life crisis and running out to buy a new car to escape from the reality of aging.
So much for O'Reilly's war on escapism there..

As for blaming technology for all of scieities problems.. Well, now he's just sounding like a coot. "Dern kids playin' their Vid'ja games and spending time doing things!.. GET OFF MY LAWN!" That's about the impression that I get from him.

Can't he just go back to blaming Christmas for all the world's problems? That was much more entertaining.
Bill O'Reilly is an idiot. He should go figure out his own problems instead of trying to dissect others. I am a gamer, have a job, house, family AND friends. Oh my gosh I am also 35 years old!! What, how is this possible he may ask.. Because I am a MAN, not a wet towel you jackass.
he's right—you fuckin' nerds! get a life!
hey.. go walk from china to america.. kthxbye
[...] A little over 60% done now.  The end is in sight, but man, it’s getting tough.  As soon as this novel is done, I’m heading over to Bill O’ Reilly’s crib to play some Madden. [...]
As a member of our the American conservative political wing I would like to apologize to all my fellow Americans for my brother Bill he has forgot to take his medication for the last couple of days and has gone insane....
Heck, what about that new fangled invention, RADIO? Imagine, sending invisible waves through the air, so you can listen to people talking or making music from hundreds of miles away? What's the matter, can't people talk among themselves, or play their own music? It will be the downfall of society! No one will ever want to leave their home, for goodness sake.

What's next -- moving pictures beamed into our houses?

Land o' Goshen!
"In the past to flee the real world people usually chose drugs or alcohol… now you don’t have to do that, Now all you have to do is have enough money to buy a machine…"

Think more people probably escaped into a good book!! and personally think better to go into a game rather then put myself and others at risk via the use of drugs or alchohol.

The other great fantasy escape has been the use of religion and often this has and continues in some places to be compusory. At least with IPods you are not subject to being a public burning, stoning etc (whatever is the specific religions chosen method of explaining reality) if you do not agree with that faith. Would require a whole extension of corporate law ;-)
Who is Bill Oriley???

Who gives two shits about what he says???

Why am I even typing this???

Fuck him and his opinion.
[...]  (original article) A couple soundbites to help…. [...]
While I agree that waiting in line for hours or days for a PS3 is pretty rediculous, it is certainly not going to be the downfall of our civilization. I, personally, am not a gamer, but I know a hell of lot of brilliant people who are.

As for throwing the iPod into this mix, that just goes to show how out-of-touch Bill is with the rest of the world. Yes, many more people are listening to music while doing pretty much everything, but that not only keeps people upbeat and motivated, it is also a great conversation starter for people who otherwise would never speak to another stranger.

And as for Bill's comment about people under the age of 45 who "don’t deal with reality - ever," he can go fuck himself. Not that we dont know this already, but he is a god-damn hipocrite!
Why dont you take a good look in the mirror and at all your right-wing conservative nuts out there who refuse to acknowledge gay rights, a woman's right to choose, or the scientifically proven fact of evolution! You all share a single brain and are completely unable to come up with a single independent thought or decision.

Fuck You Bill O'Reilly!
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I agree wholeheartedly.

The internet should be turned off forever.

I'm busy working toward this right now.

Pooter
Is Bill trying to say that Video Game related violence is the same and as widespread as Drug related violence? Hilarious!!! Maybe it’s Bill who’s out of touch with reality? Here’s some advice Bill. Take a few years off, work a normal job, hang out with your average American, enjoy life and then come back to TV and tell us what you think?

P.S. I think it’s absurd to compare video game addiction to drug addiction? I don’t think the prisons are over run with Video Game addicts?
Wow, I actually turned all those years playing computer games as a kid into a career -- as a programmer and network admin.

Besides, O'Reilly is one of the biggest pieces of shit Americans can call their own. Besides Gee-dubya anyway!
Take comfort and solace, my gaming brethren, in the simple fact that this guy and all the other techno-morons of his generation will be dead within 20 years. THEN WE SHALL RULE.
Hmmm. I know the temperature and what my neighbor looks like. But I do have to admit to being way too busy leveling my character to watch Bill O'Reilly (he is a TV guy, isn't he?).

Maybe his rant is all about the fact he is losing the competition with other forms of news and entertainment. Gotta be tough on him and his advertisers.
Please don't think for an instant that I'm defending Bill, I consider him a dangerous fool.

Nevertheless, there are some parallels between video games and milder drugs like alcohol and marijuana (it's going a little overboard to bring opium into the mix). These are potentially addictive drugs, and video games may also be addictive to certain personality types, and can cause problems not unlike those seen in drug addiction.

I've seen some of these symptoms in some children (irrational craving, inability to focus on other tasks), and it is a pretty scary situation.

Remember, even an idiot like Bill can stumble over the truth once in a while.
[...] Bill O’Reilly Slams PS3 Launch, Gamers, iPods, Digital Tech (not in that order) is a story with partial transcript on a recent O’Reilly (of the “no spin zone”) rant about technology prompted by the PS3. American society is changing for the worse because of the machines… In the past to flee the real world people usually chose drugs or alcohol… now you don’t have to do that, Now all you have to do is have enough money to buy a machine… [...]
You all shouldn't get worked up over BOR. He's just an old-fashioned carnival barker, saying anything he can think of to drum up business. His thoughts have zero intellectual weight...obviously.
[...] Via Gamepolitics: I don’t own an iPod. I would never wear an iPod… If this is your primary focus in life - the machines… it’s going to have a staggeringly negative effect, all of this, for America… did you ever talk to these computer geeks? I mean, can you carry on a conversation with them? …I really fear for the United States because, believe me, the jihadists? They’re not playing the video games. They’re killing real people over there. [...]
[...] I get tired of all this nonsense about how bad video games are.  Bill O’Reilly’s rants on the topic just make him out to be the world’s biggest luddite: “American society is changing for the worse because of the machines… In the past to flee the real world people usually chose drugs or alcohol… now you don’t have to do that, Now all you have to do is have enough money to buy a machine…” [...]
"In the past to flee the real world people usually chose drugs or alcohol… now you don’t have to do that, Now all you have to do is have enough money to buy a machine…"

Ummm...so playing video games in the desolation of your house is somehow worse than drugs, which generally leads to robberies to support the expensive habit?

Even if his gross generalizations were correct, I'd say not knowing your neighbors is far better than robbing them to support a drug habit. What is O'Reilly smoking?
basically, what i got from this article is that the jihadist are killing real people and americans will fail unless we kill real people too... wtf?!

this guy couldnt be any more wrong, i know what my neighbors look like, i have an EE degree, so i'm not a "know-not" and i've been "addicted" to video games since i could remember (atari 2600, the good ol' days)

and he fails to mention WoW, obviously ignorant ranting, now WoW's something to worry about... yeah, you know who you are!
ROFL.....
So i should put down my joystick, keyboard, mouse, controller, WOW addiction and grab me a gun and go kill real people.
Shit i know who my neighbors are and i stay inside playing video games cause i dont like em. I should shoot them good thing i have my video games or i might go crazy lol..
Don't tell me I don't know about the real world! Bill O'Reilly is one of the hardest end bosses ever, and thats for real. I can't win him! I tried with my Super Saber of Manifest Destiny and the Spell of Good Intelligence and they both fail!

I'd write more but I need to go cash my unemployment check to buy a new controller for my PS3. If I could have found my Cloak of Great Rewards earlier, I wouldn't be here now, but rather adventuring through the Mighty Woods of Highway 101 to the Magnificent Bank in Lost Dreams City.
This guy is a pathological idiot, why give him the time of day, shit I wouldn't even give a squirt of piss to save his life.
If haters had a king, this is him, and that Anne Coulter bitch would be his queen.
Funny thing I see here is the left wing right wing argument. We slam Bill O for spewing this crap and then blame the right wingers. Have we forgotten Tipper Gore assault on the video game industry? You certainly cannot label her a right winger. Bill Clinton did us the dubious favor of the DMCA. Or how about Hillary Clinton to purpose legislation to keep “inappropriate” video games out of kids hand. Should we expect such a vague law on this like the DMCA that battles against Fair Use?
I am by no means a right winger or left winger but I am smart enough to see the problem is on both sides. The problem is not the party a politician is affiliated with but the industries they are affiliated with.
While I think Bill O has a right to his opinion I too have a right to mine. And my opinion is that Bill O is an idiot.
Mr O'Reiley is an Ipod have-not. Mr Oriely is a PS3 have-not. He is wants everyone to read his stupid book and be a neo-con like him.
[...] Over the weekend, Bill O’ Reilly slammed the Playstation 3. Here’s a tasty quote for those too lazy to read the article: Now you have the “knows” and the “know-nots”, because if you spend all your youth being prisoners of machines….. you’re not going to know anything…. You’re gonna fail. [...]
Maybe with this negative PS3 PR there will be shorter lines at the store and I can get a PS3 :P
Bill O'Reilly's complete ignorance never fails to amaze me
Yep, People who play video games are complete idiots. Pilots, NASA specialists, High tech Military operators, Like flying the robotic airplanes with cameras with weapon operations. This guy is nothing more than a turd looking to be flushed. Well please, let me . . . Whirrrrrrrrr, clu-clu-clu-clu-clug.
All I'm seeing here is another tired old man repeating the same arguments his elders had when TV and video became popular. I'm sorry, but if you can't deal with the changes in a society, there are plenty of places where the communities are that dated
One word...R E T A R D E D
Yeah. I wanted to comment on this guy.. But why waste the time? He's a joke. You don't take jokes seriously, do you? then why bother commenting on them. Anyone up for a round of BF2? I'll bring the beers! (OMG, Alcohol! I must be mad.... Games AND Alcohol?!! hihihi)
I really fear for the United States because, believe me, the jihadists? They’re not playing the video games. They’re killing real people over there.

Funny. I guess he's never heard of Special Force
I got my first computer in 1982. It was an NEC w/ CP/M. Oddly enough, I've never played games. I just don't get it. I get my kicks from programming, a.i. and hacking linux into doing all kinds of stuff. I got no problem with gamers, but man, their reaction and interaction with the game is kinda scary... like a freakin drug addict or something.... and it definately has a negative impact on kids. All the time that these gamers spend on games could be used to do so much more.... but to each his own... maybe they don't give a shit and it will help them forget that all the jobs are leaving the country and they can be good little drones and get a job at wal-mart. Leaves less competition for real computer people I guess...
O'Rielly once again proves what an idiot he is. People addicted to games is the least of this country's problems.
I guess Bill doesn't realize that probably (this is just a guess, my papers with the actual findings are already down the toilet) over 50 to 60 percent of the people that make it possible for his voice to reach your ears/eyes are the very people that he is chastising. People that use technology everyday to do different things. Heck, I wonder what he would do if all the tv's on his stage were to stop working... or his own personal computer? What about his pc? He'd probably go to someone else with a pc and ask if he could use it, or just buy another one. That being due to the fact that he is payed for what he says and does, which gets broadcast to people who are often very attached to a piece of technology that he has at some point bashed. So what do I have to say to him... good job, hypocrite.
I guess Bill doesn't realize that probably (this is just a guess, my papers with the actual findings are already down the toilet) over 50 to 60 percent of the people that make it possible for his voice to reach your ears/eyes are the very people that he is chastising. People that use technology everyday to do different things. Heck, I wonder what he would do if all the television's on his stage were to stop working... or his own personal computer? What about his pc? He'd probably go to someone else with a pc and ask if he could use it, or just buy another one. That being due to the fact that he is paid for what he says and does, which gets broadcast to people who are often very attached to a piece of technology that he has at some point bashed. So what do I have to say to him... good job, hypocrite.
Ignore gidaon everyone and don't respond. Silent treatment... Shhh
Man, I wish I could avoid knowledge of the temperature outside through gaming. It's flipping cold out there. And don't even get me started on the naighbours.
Rofl, Yes, The Jihadist go home, play their daily 2 hour dose of San Andreas, then walk down the street and kill people.

this guy is a fucking retard (look at his eye). He obviously doesn't play videogames because (according to him) he's succesful. And he probably has NEVER seen a list of most gamers REPORT CARDS.



*pokes his eye with a stick*








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Rofl, Yes, The Jihadist go home, play their daily 2 hour dose of San Andreas, then walk down the street and kill people.

this guy is a fucking retard (look at his eye). He obviously doesn't play videogames because (according to him) he's succesful. And he probably has NEVER seen a list of most gamers REPORT CARDS.



*pokes his eye with a stick*
O'Reilly's a clueless old fart.
We have a couple of old farts like O'Reilly in Australia. Our so called 'shock-jocks' ended up getting caught up in the 'cash for comment' affair. To weasel out of it they used the defence that they were not journalists but merely entertainers.
I'll bet O'Reilly gets paid shitloads to mention products in his rants. These guys are one step ahead of you! Cunning as a shithouse rats.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash_for_comment_affair
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Well, he fails to directly mention the two versions of the console (something mom and dad might want to know -- if they can save $100, they'd be interested to know how!), TIME -- Levi Grossman declares the PS3 not worth the hype in the article's title, and doesn't think there's a redeeming quality about Sony's new console: Playstation 3 doesn't have a battle-tested, feature-rich online service the way the Xbox does. It doubles as a Blu-ray DVD player (that's the main reason for the high retail price), but guess what? Nobody cares. And did I mention Playstation 3 controllers don't rumble? Whose genius idea was that? Without rumble, it just ain't a jungle. Give it time. The price will (probably) come down. Sony's online strategy will (probably) mature. More decent games will come out -- the PlayStation 3 is notoriously difficult to develop for, and game-makers are still figuring out how to get the most out of it. Next holiday season, it just might be worth it. How accurate? 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How accurate?: Bill doesn't clarify that there are two versions, and I, for one, haven't been able to access the "tells you how handsome you are" feature he mentions. Isn't this what researchers are for? Newsweek -- N'Gai Croal and Steven Levy provide an article that, after the corny intro, is easily the most comprehensive and reader friendly to non-tech heads: "But this year, when PS3s are harder to come by than dragon's teeth, it's a different story. Just ask James Short, a Kentucky game fan who scanned the Internet 'day in and day out' to find opportunities to reserve a PS3 from a retailer and finally heard that a Toys 'R' Us in Lexington was doing a limited presale. He arrived at 5:30 in the afternoon to wait for the next day's 10 a.m. opening, partied with others in line and bought a voucher for one of the seven units that Toys "R" Us will get on launch. And like every other person on line, he sold the voucher on eBay. (Winning bid: $2,000.) This Christmas, he'll play Xbox. PS3 will have to wait." How accurate? Explains what's included in both the $500 and $600 models, and explains differences between the PS3 and the 360, quoting various executives to paint a complete picture for readers. Top notch stuff. CNN -- Using the ol' mock question and answer format, this article gives readers a quick synopsis of what the PS3 has (and doesn't have) to offer:Sony is styling the PS3 not as a humble games machine but as "next-generation entertainment" -- it will be compatible with the Blu-Ray next generation DVD format and promises near movie-quality graphics and the most realistic gaming experience ever. Users will be able to browse the Web, chat online and download movies, music and games. For those who already have a well-stocked collection of PS2 games, the PS3 is also supposed to be "backwards compatible." How accurate? Misses a variety of information regarding the actual difference between the SKUs (never even establishing the max price for a US PS3), but was one of the few to mention that the European launch had been delayed. That counts for something, I guess. The Evening Bulletin -- Commentary from Steve Feldman isn't just harsh, its downright caustic: "Now I'm glad for U.S. retailers that this product is in such great demand that people are waiting days in parking lots to buy one -- I believe in and try to support a strong U.S. economy. But I so much wanted to say to this fellow and the assembled others: 'Aren't there more important things to think about and amass for beyond a video game?' But at best my retort wouldn't have registered, and at worst he might have slugged me. This man was bent on getting his PlayStation 3. It was the most important thing in his world. I wasn't sure who to pity more: him or our nation." How accurate? He spelled PlayStation 3 correctly. That's pretty good for a radio show host. Washington Post -- Mike Musgrove focuses heavily on the console wars aspect, as well as the scalper market, but is relatively light on the technical jargon :This is the most-anticipated weekend of the year for video game fans, as the three big names in gaming gear up for a console war that not only renews a long-fought battle for a place in the living room but also looks to entice folks who otherwise might not be interested in video games. The PS3 costs as much as $600, but Sony's supply is so small that the cutting-edge multimedia device is expected to sell out across the country within hours, possibly minutes. How accurate?: Doesn't go too deep into the technical aspects that separate the PS3 from the 360, but makes mention of the price and even goes so far as to talk to analysts like P.J. McNealy (who they call P.J. McNeal, a minor gaffe) and Michael Pachter to bring an educated opinion to the copy. Definitely more substance than most. 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Link: Feeding Back: Media Reactions to PS3 Launch news from 1UP.com __________________ "Some people believe football is a matter of life and death. I'm very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that." - Bill Shankly [...]
Hey, O'Reilly, go visit a doctor... aka a shrink!

I think before making his statement, this cartoon character forgot to take his pills!!!!

Thus, settle down, Bill, take another pill!!!

Oh, and don't let gamers pay you a visit in your house... mad house.. sick mental case!!!!
Fuck Bill.
[...] Political-types have a love-hate relationship with video games; they love to hate them. The person doing the hating doesn’t always have to be in office (Republicans and Democrats equally hate video games, just to stop that argument short), he just has to have enough riding on the political game. Bill O’Reilly, hyper-conservative, is the newest member of the anti-video game crowd, and he has some spin for you. [...]
[...] Political-types have a love-hate relationship with video games; they love to hate them. The person doing the hating doesn’t always have to be in office (Republicans and Democrats equally hate video games, just to stop that argument short), he just has to have enough riding on the political game. Bill O’Reilly, hyper-conservative, is the newest member of the anti-video game crowd, and he has some spin for you. [...]
sounds like the grumpy old man skit from saturday night live. ...back in my day, we used to stab ourselves in the eye with a rusty bicycle spoke... and we liked it!
Is this the same O'Reilly from the episode of Faulty Towers with the builder O'Reilly? Sounds like it.
Anyway.... I spent my youth playing computer games on my PC. Now I earn $800 a day looking after them for people like O'Reilly... all on a high school education. Most geeks I know earn a decent living doing geeky things... non-geeks are the ones finding it hard to make it in today's "real" world.
"American society is changing for the worse because of the machines… In the past to flee the real world people usually chose drugs or alcohol… now you don’t have to do that, Now all you have to do is have enough money to buy a machine…

The problem with this stuff is that some people can deal with it constructively… but other people get addicted to it, just like opium, just like drugs and alcohol… So this is a big, big problem. It’s going to change every single thing in this country."

You know what? Bill is 100% right. Now please excuse me while I sell my Xbox, then go get addicted to opium.
Sounds to me like the rantings of an old man who sees the future and fears it because he doesn't understand it. Times change, get over it
At least the web and video games are interactive media. The vast majority of my video game time is spent on Live or internet games where you converse with other people hardly anti-social. The real dangerous things are one way media like television, where people talk and send out all sorts of ideas and all you can do is just take it all in. The average american spends some ridiculous amount of time watching tv like 6 hours a day on average that is insane just sitting there probably eating chips absorbing mindless comedies or watching lunatics like Bill O'Reilly, but you don't see him bashing TV wonder why that could be? Radio same thing which he is on too. Seems like he hides from any interactive media where anyone can dispute his ridiculous ideas. Think about it his TV shows he gets guests he chooses to come on his show where he has the control and screams at them. I'm sure he has some sort of blog on his members only pay-site, of course why would you dish out your hard earned money for access to read every little turd his decaying brain shits out unless you were already with him on most every subject so there is probably little dissent on his site. All respectable blogs I have ever read in my life have a comment section and people write some pretty bad stuff about the authors on their own site do they delete these comments? No, because they aren't afraid to let people read the article and the comments and make up their own minds. This guy makes up so much drama such as this supposed culture war and his whole notion that everyone hates him because he is right is absurd.
Bill's got a point.

In Vancouver we have binners using these IPODS so when they slam garbage bin tops in the middle of night, the sound only bothers residents, not them. Great.

We also have pedestians walking around like zombies into traffic without even bothering to look just expecting everyone to stop for them. They are as Bill says disconnected. People are wired with cell phones, IPODS, and palm pilots. You're in the middle of a conversation and they keep interrupting. The last meeting I had with someone after the third interruption by gagets I told him either turn them off and converse or not.
[...] Generations have been bagging the generation that came after them since forever. There’s a famous quote from Thucydides or Herodutus or someone bagging the young uns, but I’m not in the mood to go hunt it down. It sounds exactly like Bill O’Reilly insisting that America is about to be destroyed because of all those young uns and their devil video games. [...]
O'Reilly is just feeling threatened that people will use their TV sets to do other things than watching his show.

He'd prefer the masses to be diverted by Bill O'Reilly instead of other inhuman machines.
Mr O'Reily knows nothing about Tech and proof is the terms he uses when he describes sound systems saying Hi-Fi or referring to MP3's as Tapes. Even his politics appear out of the 60's, a true Dinosaur.
I don't think he is talking about everyone who plays video games and has an ipod, but those who sat outside best buy a while back, for a day and a night, that is who he is talking about, that is rediculous, if you don't have enough of a life to get by for a few months untill ps3 will be old, you probably don't have any ambition to succeed. Go ahead, tell me how many of you make 800 bucks a day and all that, very few and best of luck to those who do. Perhaps you can throw down for your buddies who are still on the couch waiting on a welfare check, or their 'big break'. I'm 18 and I wouldn't own an ipod either..mainly because they don't work, and 3/4 of all ipods i've seen are broken or are very...shady, but it takes away from the personalization of people, you don't get to relate with people if you walk around campus with headphones on your head or a cell phone in your ear. He doesn't see most of us, those going to college, getting degrees and all that, but he knows that we are here and those people who do well, are not attached to a 360, and sure as hell don't have time to sit around waiting for a ps3.
[...] Bill O’Reilly Slams PS3 Launch, Gamers, iPods, Digital Tech (not in that order) Good grief. Bill O’Reilly should be the LAST person on Earth to be talking about disconnection from reality … (tags: dumbfuck politics neocon) [...]
[...] So I was cruising the tubes of the Interweb when I stumbled into a blog called GamePolitics that deals with the intersection of … well … games and politics. There is a gem of an post dealing with the darling of right wing jibber jabber, Bill O’Rilley, and his views on why PS3s and iPods are killing our culture. [...]
Thank you bryon, these others are dumb, and playing into oreily's hands by commenting. I play some games, key words some games. not 20 out of 24 hours a day playing everquest a day online. I'm 20, hold a job and go to college and all my old aquintances in highschool that didn't go on to anything are the ones that played videogames constantly or some other "machine" that has no practical application in real life situations. Also people who blame outsourcing and not their own laziness for not having a job should realize something, this country has a major labor shortage especially in fields that require education... outsourcing would not be as prevalent if we could fill this gap but guess what it's not being filled because to many people don't care or are so addicted to everquest they live at home until their 25 eating cheatos. Why don't you people admit that Oreily has a point just as people who claimed the TV was the "boob tube" had a point. Now please get some ambition and do something with your lives people. a few hours a week playing maddens fine, and thats only if you have the time and don't have obligations. but hell what possible obligations could gamer geeks have other than to their warrior character and your promise to get him to level 99 buy his birthday. bye, just felt like bloviating. sorry I didn't keep it piffy.
O'Reilly is making a point about the priorities that we as a society should have. People take their gaming more seriously than terrorist attacks--and that is not a joke. By living in our own "realities" as he so calls it, we truly do shut out the real world and numb ourselves to the reality outside of our front doors. However, O'Reilly is pinpointing gaming in this case and not TV and the internet, which also have a much too powerful influence over our "personal realities." It isn't hard to sit around all day day-dreaming about our favorite Final Fantasy or other gaming characters, or strategizing a way to beat that Big Boss on level 10. The main point O'Reilly is really trying to get at is that some people become so involved in the gaming world (and it's true) that they blow off any responsibility that they have to society--like volunteering in the community, helping your parents around the house, cleaning up after yourself, etc. Gaming is fun, but like everything else, it requires moderation in order to keep it healthy.
Waiting in lines for hours for a new console may seem weird to Bill, but that's just his opinion. If I wanted something bad enough I would wait in line for hours, too. The PS3 just isn't one of those things, especially at the price it is now. I'm willing to wait for the prices and the bugs to die down before I make a step towards the cash register.
O'Rielly is just a loud talking head, and we only need ignore him. He picks the most inane subjects (War on Christmas, anyone?), and by shouting and ad hominem attacks stirs up a small group of viewers and listeners who already believe what he claims to. He doesn't represent an aging group that suspects or dislikes tech (I'm 50, for what its worth, and he sure doesn't represent me). He doesn't represent old political modes, or neo ones, either. He just represents himself, and the money that he can gain from having a high-volume argument with himself on national TV.

He holds no real power, unless you grant it to him. He won't stop you from gaming, buying a PS3, saying "Happy Holidays", or anything else, for that matter. I can't think of a single law, regulation, or rule put in place as a result of his ranting. Again, ignore him. He's a troll with a TV show. And not a very good troll, at that.
to address an earlier comment... the violent crime rate has been rising since the 90s, substantially.
Now gaming sites are liberal drones too? LMAO As an independant, this story and its responses made me laugh. Get educated, seriously or you end up on boards like this making an ass of yourselves, including the writer of this article.
I have one word for Mr. O'Reilly: Loofah.

Practice what you preach, sir. You're like the people who thought Elvis was the devil and that comics destroyed the brains of children, and all along, you're doing reprehensible things yourself.

Why not focus on the true problems within our country, like rampant poverty and the second highest infant mortality rate of industrialized nations, behind only Latvia.

I know why; you're a bigot, a fool and a hypocrite.
you vidiots are a bunch of stupid dorks
bill o'reilly is dumb he hates ludacris cuz he makes more money than him and he hates americas youth because we are better than him LEAVE US ALONE!!
I don't care what you people think anywhere you guys have been slamming my kind since the mid 80'ss so piss off
If we have turned to video games instead of drugs and alcohol, then it seems to me we have made a step in the right direction.
[...] The controversial talk show host, who advertises his program as a “no spin zone” offered the following spin on gamers and much of their favorite gear:”source [...]
Bill needs to fall into a pit of vipers.
[...] The controversial talk show host, who advertises his program as a “no spin zone” offered the following spin on gamers and much of their favorite gear:”source [...]
[...] Apparently, I scare the shit out of Bill O’Rielly. And no, it’s not because I’m infinitely smarter and more learned than he could ever be. And no, it’s not because I can see through his bullshit without having to take a second whiff. It’s because I’m one of those scary computer people. You see, everything wrong with the country (including, apparently, terrorism) can be blamed on us interneters. [...]
This guy is such a piece of shit. I guarentee he owns a bunch of Ipods, his kids have video games, and watches web porn. Don't believe a single word this guys says.
Nerds not being successful? Bill Gates. Need I say more?

Geeks being anti-social? My Space.

Let's just revel in the irony of this moron's rant generating communication between his "anti social geeks" accross the world, and point out that Skills in these destracting machines are getting to be required if you want to do anything besides flip burgers or make an a$$ of yourself nationally by rebuking them, and further more, most of our nations hero's going over-sea's to combat terrorists, choose to unwind after after a long day of protecting his right to idiotic speach by playing video games
-Semper Fi
[...] Coverage via the Game Politics blog and CNet’s Gadget Blog. Spread the Propoganda:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]
[...] Bill O’Reilly is awesome. Yes, the story is from earlier last year, but I still really enjoy reading his crazy rant against video games and iPods. The have-nots are growing. Why are they growing? Because the skill set that is necessary to earn a decent living is being deemphasized in a fantasy world of football games and shooting zombies and all that…. Now you have the “knows” and the “know-nots”, because if you spend all your youth being prisoners of machines….. you’re not going to know anything…. You’re gonna fail. [...]
[...] Original post by GamePolitics [...]
I think it's about fair time we get some sort of spam-control in here. The latter half of this page (this post excluded) is utter bullsh#t and should be removed asap.
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[...] Which is how he thinks of technology, apparently. On almost every appearance lately, it seems, Bill O’Reilly tries to do toe touches with his tonsils. He cosistently mocks technology and those that use it, calling them ‘have-nots,’ and just seems to be against the advancement of humanity in general. Here’s some choice quotes from his show Radio Factor, courtesy of Game Politics: American society is changing for the worse because of the machines… In the past to flee the real world people usually chose drugs or alcohol… now you don’t have to do that, Now all you have to do is have enough money to buy a machine… [...]
fuck this mother fucker
Asking what the weather TEMPERATURE?! is like ? Jesus criest. Does he think we're walking thermoneters?
I agree with Bill O'Rielly. As a girl who has dated guys who play video games, I have to say it is the most unsexy, unattractive, boring, addictive, time-consuming, and annoying habit. Girls hate it when their boyfriends or even guy friends obessively play, taking time away from more fun and productive activities like real life sports. Playing Madden is not a skill. A girl wants to see a guy run down a real football fieild, not an electronic one. It is not attractive when your thumbs have more muscle from using a controller than your bicepts. Women want real men who live in the real world, at all times. If you want to experience a fantasy world or escape from reality, make plans with your friends to see a movie, do something romantic for your girl/boyfriend, or participate in any other fun activity that does not include causing brain damage to yourself and others subjected to watch.
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SONY-ERICSSON K750 170$
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SAMSUNG P710 120$
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SAMSUNG P510 120$
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NEXTEL i60c -- 50UDS
NEXTEL i90c -- 95USD
NEXTEL i95cl -- 130USD
NEXTEL i30sx -- 55USD
NEXTEL i88s -- 70USD
NEXTEL i35s -- 30USD
NEXTEL i58sr --75USD
NEXTEL i2000 -- 60USD
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NEXTEL i930--150USD
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NEXTEL i860 -- $100USD
Qtek
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Qtek S200 ....... $180
Qtek 9000 ....... $250
Qtek 8310 ....... $200
Qtek 8300 ....... $185
Qtek 9100 ....... $270
Qtek 8100 ....... $150
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Qtek 8020 ....... $190
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Qtek 2020i ...... $220
Qtek 2020 ....... $200
Qtek 1010 ....... $140
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Treo 600...............$150usd
Treo 650...............$160usd
SIDEKICK
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SIDEKICK II -- $100USD
SIDEKICK II MISTER CARTOON...... $130
JUICY COUTURE SIDEKICK II .....$130
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o2 xDA Exec ........ $280
02 XDA Atom ........ $260
02 XDA NEO ........ $265
02 XDA mini S ....... $270
02 XDA II mini ...... $200
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02 X4 ......... $130
02 X3 ......... $120
02 x7 ......... $140
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Apple iPod nano Media Player 4GB .................... $150
Apple iPod nano Media Player 6GB .................... $200
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Apple 40 GB iPod photo....................40 USD
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Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A.......45 USD
Apple 2 GB iPod Nano......................50 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Nano......................60 USD
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Apple 60 GB iPod Video...................150 USD
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Xbox 360 Prenium pack -- US$190
Xbox 360 Platinum Bundle Console -- US$155.00
Intec G8600 Xbox 360 9.2 TFT Screen -- US$85
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playstation 2...130usd
playstation 3 ...200usd
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Bill O'Reilly is a faux news fascist nazi mouth piece. He deserves to be tortured until the brink of death then tortured again but not die. If him and Ann coulter had a kid that kid would be the next Anti-Christ.


HEY BILL ITS CALLED FREE SPEECH YOU FUCKING IDIOT. YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT JUST LIKE I'M DOING NOW. IF I WANTED TO CALL IN AND SAY YOU ARE A FUCKING DIPSHIT I WOULD HAVE THAT RIGHT. HAVE A NICE AND SHAMEFUL LIFE AND I HOPE YOU BURN IN HELL.

Signed,

A loyal fan.
it is a shame that kids kill at all.yeah,im a kid,but i have no killing urges myself.
This Bill has his head up his ass. Look around dude gamers rule and last time i checked VIOLENT CRIMES went down in the last 10 years and its been proven that violent games do not cause people to be more violent!
And also Bill dude you might want to take care of that rash looks preety bad!!!!!!!!!
Bill seems to me that he would rather have people killing people and doing drugs instead of playing a game. I really think he is an idiot with a Ph.D. Let us play our games. My parents say that they would rather me spend
2-6 hours on a game then 2-6 hours doing drugs, killing people, or anything illegal. That would be how i feel about my children if i had any.
Wow. So this is what the liberal slums of the internet are like.

The person who made this article talking about Bill O'Riely adding his own spin on this subject fails to notice that they themselves have put a spin on the facts. And i notice that atleast most of these comments are very biast.

Clearly, your not trying to listen to his views. Your not even trying. O Riely is a pretty smart guy. In case you haven't noticed, there ARE a lot of people who are obsessed with videogames. I know this cause i have a little problem with it myself. But the fact is that there are people who have lost touch with reality cause there too busy with there DnD and there MTG and whatever to go get a friggen girlfriend. He was simply addressing this issue. People have to take reponsibility for there actions.


But i guess a bunch of secular progressivists wouldn't understand that. (Not to say that your all Secular. I'm sure there are some down to earth people here too, but there are definatly some seculars around here. )
Christ, what the hell happened here?

If any of you would actually like to defend your points instead of trolling on a news article that's a couple months old, then come to the forums.
Bill have you seen the new Washington Dollar Coin. It does not have "In God
We Trust" on it to my knowledge this is the first US coin in my life time that has left it off. I am 71 years old. Please comment on this on the air.
Larry Kibbey Houston, TX
MR BILL ORILEY YES I FEEL SORRY FOR VICKI LYNN HOGAN
{ANNA NICOLE} AND HER BABY GIRL DANNIELYNN AND FOR HER FAMILY. HER FAMILY IS A VERY WONDERFUL FAMILY THEY ARE CAREING AND LOVEING. AND I THINK HOWARD K STERN IS A COLD HEARTED PERSON NOT TO LET HER REAL GRANDMOTHER BE A PART OF HER LIFE. VIRGIE IS HER HER REAL BLOOD. HOWARD IS NOTHING TO DANNIELYNN. IT WILL ALL COME OUT IN THE END AND LARRY BURKHEAD IS THE FATHER.
I FEEL VERY SORRY FOR BABY DANNIELYNN BECAUSE SHE ISN'T WITH HER BLOOD RELATIVES. BOY WHAT AN AWAKEING SHE WILL HAVE LATER ON IN LIFE. THIS IS VERY VERY SAD. I THINK EVERYONE NEEDS TO LOOK AT HOWARD STERN VERY GODD HE ISN'T BEING FAITHFUL ABOUT HIS LIES AND DOING. GODBLESS ANNA NICOLE,DANNIELYNN,VIRGIE AND THE REAL FAMILY OF ANNA NICOLE {AKA} VICKI LYNN HOGAN. MY PRAYS ARE WITH YOU ALL. MARION FROM TEXAS
MR ORILEY I HAVE A QUESTION....HOW CAN THE BAHAMIAN GOVERMENT LET DANNIELYNN STAY WITH HOWARD STERN WITH ALL THE DRUGS THAT WERE IN THE HOUSE? HE HAS ALWAYS LOOKED DRUGED UP AS WELL AS ANNA NICOLE DID.
MARION {TEXAS}
@ some random guy from Canada.

Join the club.
O'Reilly knows of what he speaks.

I hope the rude postings regarding him and just the tone of the emails, does not reflect the thoughts of the majority of people.

How vulgar these postings are.
Phew. Thank god i'm not from the US :-) ;-P
i happen upon this page by mistake do not like the foul F word clean up your act the world is gettin to be garbage will not visit the web site again what ever happened to decent people
LOVELY SPAM! WONDERFUL SPAM!

Where's Dennis when you need him?
[...] GamePolitics.com » Blog Archive » Bill O’Reilly Slams PS3 … Apparently sparked by the PlayStation 3 launch, conservative pundit Bill O’Reilly took off after video game culture and digital technology generally in yesterday’s Radio Factor http://gamepolitics.com/2006/11/18/bill-oreilly-slams-playstation-3-laun... [...]
[...] GamePolitics.com » Blog Archive » Bill O’Reilly Slams PS3 … Apparently sparked by the PlayStation 3 launch, conservative pundit Bill O’Reilly took off after video game culture and digital technology generally in yesterday’s Radio Factor http://gamepolitics.com/2006/11/18/bill-oreilly-slams-playstation-3-laun... [...]
Um yea, sorry about my grammer. It's usually better, but i forget about grammer when I'm on a rant xD
all i know about temperature is, when i go to school at 6 o clock, its about 40 F, but when i get home it's 80. as for my neighbors, on my right is a gamer, as big a gamer as me. on my left is an old lady that never leaves her house (probably playing GoW), people i think we've all been through this, only psychopaths take video games as reality and shoot people, but they could take it off of movies or anything else. Ipods? wtf? it's a music playing device. I don't know anything? i have a 4.0, and an above-college reading level (I'm a sophomore). The real people that don't know anything are the Jocks and the Druggies in our school. alotta the gamers i know are smart, alot smarter than the majority of the people i know. actually base your rants on evidence.....douchebag
on the subject of temperature; no americans seem to know what temperature it is. I mean fahrenheit? Come on... :p
[...] However, when I read GamePolitics.com's piece about O'Reilly's outburst on his RadioFactor show this past Friday, I went beyond, "he's got a point." [...]
"WHAT?!? Ok, we’re all doomed because we have PS3s and iPods and the Jihadists don’t because they’re too busy killing folks? Good going, idiot. You had to just connect terrorism to not-playing video games. In that same train of thought, playing video games stops terrorism. Stop hating America, Bill. Let us play video games because we’re FREE to do it. Just like you’re FREE to say stupid stuff.

So, when do we send a huge shipment of 360s to Iraq?"

Dude, you are MORE ignorant than O'Reily who makes plenty of valid points. Up until the iPod statement, I actually agreed with most of his statements, albeit he is a little extreme.

He's not saying all video gamers are useless. He is saying that execcessive video game usage is a bad thing (it's call an ADDICTION.) He compares video game addiction to drug addiction, and rightly so, they both have similar effects on people's social life.

If a kid is a video game addict through his teenage years. He WON'T grow up to be a succesful contributer to our economy, unless he turns his life around. It's as simple as that.

I'm sorry that you people are too much off a hater of O'Reily to even recognize the validity in a lot of his points (not to say that he doesn't go too far, sometimes.)
All one has to do is read so many of the above statements to see that Bill is so very right about the "Game" people. The new machines would be fine "IF" these people would get out and get away from their machines and see just how well MOST of us see and how we can interact with each other in the REAL WORLD. Thanks Bill, but some of these people can not face the real world because they are week just like drug users.
Mr. O'Reilly,

I am e-mailing you, because we the georgia military veterans' needs your help with a matter. I am a 100% VA disable service connected veteran unemployable. I served 27 years of military service in U.S. Army as a (SGM E-9) two tours in vietnam, wounded three times and awarded three Purple Hearts.

I had a Georgia Superior Court Judge in Columbus, Georgia told me that HE DID NOT HAVE TO ABIDE BY ANY FEDERAL OR GOVERNMENT REGULATION, AND DOES WHAT EVER HE WANT TO IN HIS COURT ROOM and he forced me to surrender part of my VA disability benefit to my former spouse and that is a violation of the Constitutional law. I have appeared to Georgia Appear Court, but it was dismissed. Please read the following constitutional laws:

1. Section 1408, title 10, U.S. Code Uniform Service Former Spouse Protection Act (USFSPA)
2. Section 5301(a), title 38, Federal Regulation Code
3. Mansell v. Mansell 1989 case. The U.S. Supreme Court ruling stated that NO states courts/judges can take a veteran disability pay and replace it with Uniform Service Former Spouse Protection Act pay.

Will you please call me at 770-914-9366 home or 770-855-8004 cell
e-mail: paulbmw@bellsouth.net

205 Acadian Way
Stockbridge, GA 30281

Please we the veterans' of the United States of America are in needs of your help.

I will be looking forward to hearing from you soon by e-mail, telephone or letter.

Thanks
Paul M. Cousins
SGM (Retired USA)
Military Order of the Purple Heart
"In the past to flee the real world people usually chose drugs or alcohol… now you don’t have to do that, Now all you have to do is have enough money to buy a machine…"

Is he saying that drugs are better than machines?
[...] Bill O’Reilly believes that iPods are endangering America (and also computer geeks apparently) The irony being that his own show is available as a paid for subscription podcast. “American society is changing for the worse because of the machines… In the past to flee the real world people usually chose drugs or alcohol… now you don’t have to do that, Now all you have to do is have enough money to buy a machine…” [...]

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Posted 11/07/09 at 04:27pm
ZippyDSMlee: man I got alot of junk and dup files too >< god I need orginization...and no not the knee capping media mafia kind :P
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:26pm
ZippyDSMlee: replaced :P
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:23pm
ZippyDSMlee: beemoh:hey its like 60GB porn,400GB anime 100GB games and crap I have took from all my DVDs, I hate waiting on dvds to install stuff..... oh and 40GB of my porn was in the found.000 folder...mostly corrupted.... least I got names of wut needs to be repa
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:18pm
beemoh: @Zip: ...and you'd have to spend all that time re-downloading that porn?
Posted 11/07/09 at 03:34pm
ZippyDSMlee: ggrrrrr......vista lost one of my hard drives and I had a heart attack thinking I lost 1TB of data....
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:58am
JDKJ: Which could be explained by both (a) and (b).
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:56am
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: You forgot C) the fact that, for some reason, every time he did something that would suggest he shouldn't be in the military, let alone an officer, higher ups ignored it or let it slide.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:51am
JDKJ: Part of the problem is, I believe, that (a) the Army had a lot of time and money already invested in him and which they were unwilling to simply write-off and (b) an increasing need for the type of skills and services he provided.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:48am
JDKJ: And that even if he was begging not to get cut loose, he was apparently a real good candidate for being cut loose, anyway.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:11am
JDKJ: @chada: And while Kennedy once noted that there's usually more than enough blame for everyone to get a slice, the possibility that the Army was unwilling to cut loose someone who was asking to get cut loose could be a factor.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:07am
ZippyDSMlee: *noms on his feet*..nomnomnomnom*droooll* ...wuuutttttt uuu looking at?
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:05am
JDKJ: I'm no psychologist, but I'm told that crazy people have a tendency to do crazy things.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:03am
chadachada321: Whoops, was out of the convo for awhile. I do wonder what type of ammo he used etc, but the real issue is WHY he did it, not HOW
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:56am
JDKJ: But if it turns out that they actually did, they'll have Hell to pay.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:45am
JDKJ: And I'd tend to rule out the possibilty of FN Herstal supplying restricted ammunition to someone merely because they're ordering it from a military base.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:37am
JDKJ: I know you don't leave your gated community and get around much in dark alleys, so you may be surprised to learn that there's this thing called "the black market" where, if you've got enough money, ain't too much of anything which can't be bought.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:36am
Austin_Lewis: Or, maybe he or someone else at the base ordered the SS190 from FN Herstal.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:32am
Austin_Lewis: the hands of private owners. They run about 300 dollars minimum for a box of 50, and boxes of AP 5.7 are extremely scarce, mainly residing in the hands of Class III stores or individuals who for one reason or another got a demo box of it.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:30am
Austin_Lewis: There are other firearms that fire the 5.7. However, I too would like to know where he got the ammo and what kind was used. Maybe Hasan, planning not to live through this, went out and bought one the boxes of SS190 that are floating around in
Posted 11/07/09 at 08:44am
JDKJ: And it isn't yet clear what type of ammunition Hasan used. It's strange that he purchased a gun but didn't purchase ammunition for it at the same place and time. Especially because the calibre required is peculiar to the actual gun.
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