Good grief, I hope he doesn't get the ticket. He obviously knows nothing about rating games. Who knows what else he would try to legislate without understanding it?

Gotta say, he's about the last guy to be talking about games, or anything, I think sam Brownback is a retard, but thats not exactly uncommon.

Anyway, as to the Conservitive party, now, theres not perfect, but then again, they don't have backstabbing shyters like mythra, they don't give standing ovations to men convicted of sleeping with teeanagers while in office. So no, the Concervitive party isn't perfect, but they are still leaps and bounds above the Liberals, it's just that the Liberal media of course, never mention that kinda thing.

Either way, party status aside, I'm not looking forward to 2008. the only person I might vote for is Rudy, and Hilary, Brownback, McCain, and probably 90 percent of the possible canidates, can kiss my ass.

Also, pardon the double posting, but you'll have to excuse me if I find "wastes my tax dollars on gaming legislation that gets shot down" to be a lesser sin than "gives the Executive branch unchecked power" or "legalizes torture" or "tries to write anti-gay legislation into the Constitution" or "horribly riddled with corruption (Abramoff, Foley, DeLay, Cunningham. et cetera)" or "tries to dismantle the social safety net" or...

Well, you get the idea.

Now, ideally, there would be a candidate who would stop with the "WE MUST PROTECT OUR KIDS FROM (insert the boogeyman of the decade)" political grandstanding because it either doesn't work (video games) or does horrible damage to the industry it targets (comic books), but you have to prioritize.

You're right, I'm sorry. I shouldn't be derailing this.

Of course, that comic pretty well says all that needs to be said, so if we just posted a link to it, there wouldn't be much left to talk about here, would there?

Brownback's welcome to try for a bid at nomination, as is anyone. But it's unlikely he'll get it if the results of the last election is any indication. After their defeat, the Republicans are realizing that if they want a shot at getting elected again, they need to appear more moderate and distance themselves from Right-Wing religous extremists. That includes people like Brownback, as he would represent and image of the Republicans that is now becoming increasingly unpopular.

Personally, I find it satisfying. The Republican defeat must come as a big slap in the face to The Fellowship, the religous organization Brownback is a part of, and their plans, and that their influence may be starting to wane. (For more on The Fellowship,here's another link that describes their history in more detail. And I thought the Illuminati were scary!)

Of the nominees, while I consider myself Libertarian and really only vote Democrat out of necessity for lack of any viable alternative, I could see myself possibly voting for McCain. Definitely Giuliani if he gets it. Again, Hillaray turns me off, as I've said befroe she seems to want to be everyone's mom. Though I might support Obama if he seriously decides to run.

Well.. It's gonna be fun to see this guy try and ride all the way to the oval office ont he videogame bandwagon, but seriously, I think the conservative praying president gimmick will likely destroy any support at all from most American people.
After all, I'm pretty sure that most US citizens are displeased with our current president and his borderline holy war. Personally, I find the whole, "God is on my side!" crap insulting to democracy.

As for bashing ratings.. Who the hell is writing this guy's stuff? Is he actually going out and playing the games that the ESRB supposedly didn't rate correctly or is he just making more post-hot coffee generalizations. Because, as we all know, hacking content into games counts to even though the majority of people will never see that content.

So video games will either be sensored or sensored? What happened to democratic choice?

"Brownback is the sponsor of the Senate version of the Truth in Video Game Rating Act. Among other provisions, the bill would mandate that games be played in their entirety before receiving a rating."

OK, listen. The gaming industry and community aren't just trying to weasel out of this one or make wild claims about this bill. It is simple fact that (and I'll start a new line to emphasise):

Many games cannot be played in entirety. By anyone. Ever.

This is because many games feature either 1) moddable content, which allows people to add their own stuff or change the way the game works, or 2) interaction with other humans over the internet, or 3) content that is generated randomly/downloaded automatically from the net. Yes, the ratings people should play the games extensively before coming to a conclusion, but they cannot play them *entirely*.

Point 1) Someone could make a mod for a game that turns it into a rape simulator if they wanted. This would be the modder's code however, and the game itself is no more responsible for it than Windows is for allowing it to run or Logitech is for making the keyboard the player uses to control it.

Point 2) Someone could talk about illegal activities in a park. This does not make the park keeper responsible.

Point 3) Someone could put a risque advert on an online advertising service which is then streamed to players of the latest racing game. This does not make the racing game responsible for the content of the ad.

They also can't be expected to be told every possible thing that a game may present to the player without an NDA as this may involve revealing (patented) secrets about the game's design. And if they have to sign an NDA, they can't reveal details about their findings.

Let's all pray that he doesn't receive a nomination. I would hate for someone like that to be in the white house. That would really be bad. I hope he isn't elected, or anywhere near it. I hate conservative ideas that say video games are bad. They are full of it. The last thing we need is a conservative who hates video games and is in favor of gaming legislation in the white house. We have to hope very strongly that he never makes it. However, I don't think that an ultra-conservative like him has much of a chance.

Then again, maybe I'm thinking optimistically. This guy is very bad news and he must not win. I hope he gets beaten quickly in the race and never stands a chance at all. Anyone who is in favor of gaming legislation must not win or be in the white house because then there would be a lot less violent video games and that would be awful.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/10/01

Also let us not forget that *no* amount of exhaustive playing would've found the hidden scenes in San Andreas. The only way they'd have found them is through reverse engineering. Are they expected to do that too?

If there's one thing I can't tolerate, it's the socially conservative.

I just hope nothing bad happens to these people... It would just turn them into maytrs, and of course we will end up taking the blame for it.

Let these video game legislating pols win president. That way if they finally establish their law, it will get turned down by the supreme court and major video game legislation will never be a big issue ever again.

Just like abortion, gay marriage, and any other hot-topic vote-grabbing issue anyone would care to name!

Sorry, but I don't think it'll work that way. Video games will only cease to be an issue when society can find a new scapegoat for the behavior of a few wayward children. That probably won't happen until we perfect the holodeck.

Brownback is the guy who said the Lord GOd Almighty is his sole constiuent. He'll never win a national election.

Like its been said.. you can't play games through their entirety.. its just not possible, they have a lot of nerve to try and blame anyone for user created content.. if I stick a playboy in-between the pages of The Scarlet Letter, do we get to go back in time and sue Nathaniel Hawthorne?

I really hope this guy doesnt get the nomination... he will probably be up against hillary if he does, and then what do we do? Out of the frying pan, into the fire... 08 will be the first time I'll be old enough to vote and I don't want to skip it, but the way its looking I just might take "Jordan" up on his idea.

Jordan says: "If it comes down to those two, do a write in for Carl Johnson."

For the people who don't know what I ment by

“If it comes down to those two, do a write in for Carl Johnson.”

I was talking about the main character from GTA San Andreas.

Yeah Tye, as does almost every other media influenced child, it doesnt make you special... this has nothing to do with conservatives or democrats, hillary clinton is just as bad in this department.

Why do people keep bringing the rep/dem shit up.. are they TRYING to stray from topic and start a flame-war?