@ GamePolitics

What was so wrong with that post? I was just saying how I feel about Jack Thompson and his lies. I've said far more insulting things about him in the past. He's trying to destroy the video game industry and I don't like him for that.

...or it could just be another guy named Dan, and Dennis removed your previous entry due to its content.

If karma would do its thing anytime soon, all the states that still need to pay industry legal fees would instead pass them off to Thompson. "Here, you pay the bill. We're outta here."

A modified version of a post I made else where regarding Jack:

Jack clams his critics don’t research him, he however knows they in fact do research him and that why he constructs pleasant sounding arguments that make him seem rational but are filled with distortion, all and out lies, weasel words, and many types logical fallacies. He is charismatic and a good speaker but his actions betray his words.

Since Jack so believe in full disclose, ethical behavior and seeing the truth he might want to explain why he continues to spread misinformation about the nature of school shootings that is only liable to put our children at greater risk for school violence.

Let me explain:
Preaching in behalf of a law he helped draft he told the Louisiana legislators that according to the FBI and Secret Service reports on school shootings video games and violent media was the one common denominator in school violence he reported those sentiments in an article in the Shreveport times article and on other occasion he and other have gone as far as to specifically say videogame were the cause of school shootings and right here he continued to say there was an established link between video games and school violence.

This is quite simple false the FBI and Secret service never said this they in fact, said their was no common dominator and contraindicated any approach that tries to look for a single denominator. But don’t believe me here are link to the studies Mister Thompson calms he has read.

The secret service’s report: www.treasury.gov/usss/ntac/ssi_final_report.pdf
The FBI’s report: www.fbi.gov/publications/school/school2.pdf

Let us take a look:
Jack claim in the aforementioned article in the Shreveport times: “The FBI and Secret Service found, in studying all the school shootings up to and through Columbine, the one common denominator was the immersion of the perpetrators in violent entertainment.” Neither the FBI nor the Secret Service has ever said anything of the sort. It is true that the Secret Service in its report, “The Final Report and Findings of the Safe School Initiative”, found that “Over half of the attackers demonstrated some interest in violence” they also noted that “there was no one common type of interest in violence indicated” and that Thompson's preferred target of immersion in violent video games was present in a merger 12 percent of cases. Had this been said alone it might give Thompson some support but reading the report in it’s entire makes the it quite clear that Thompson is grossly distorting the facts. The FBI in its report, “The School Shooter: A Threat Assessment Perspective”, also makes it explicitly clear that “No one or two traits or characteristics should be considered in isolation or given more weight than the others. Any of these traits, or several, can be seen in students who are not contemplating a school shooting or other act of violence” and both organizations empathized the fact that “There is no accurate or useful "profile" of students who engaged in targeted school violence” and that “there is no set of traits that described all–or even most–of the attackers.” It is quite clear there is no common denominator, of any sort. Furthermore, neither the FBI nor the Secret Service made as much as an intimation of the relationship between violent media and school violence being casual in nature, the Secret Service in fact stated, “Many adolescents are fascinated with violence and the macabre, and writings and drawings on these themes can be a reflection of a harmless but rich and creative fantasy life.” These studies recommend a comprehensive threat assessment approach and blatantly contraindicated Thompson approach: Let’s looking at the number of things he has done that go directly against the FBI recommendations:
1) Claiming a common denominator exist where there is none.
2) Profiling people based on video game play. What part of there is no profile did you misread, John Bruce?
3) Looking at everything as a video game issues. Did you not read how they warned against the every problem is a nail fallacy?

There are more wrong with Mister John Bruce view point but I chose too focus on this because as John Bruce himself has put it lives are at stack, and John Bruce is not helping matters by not only advocating but try to embedded via law a contradicted mindset towards the problem. John Bruce think we oppose his goal we don’t we oppose his methods. As a believer of Christ John Bruce should now that for an act to be truly good the intention means and ends must all be good Jack fails too follow the second of these three and worse still for ,his own goal no less, he believes his own hype. It is a same Jack could be a much more effective, much more respectable media critic, it is wrong for us too hate all critics of violence in media, but actions like the above strip him of all credibility, and ones credibility is like ones virginity once it gone it gone.

To summarize it succulently Jack words claim he wants too pass game legislation too prevent another Columbine however ,his actions, his repeated distortions of what the government said and recommended in regards to the tragedy at Columbine suggest he wants to pass violent video game legislation at the cost of another Columbine.

@ MaskedPixelante

The main problem with the video game laws is they are exclusive to video games. There is no similar restriction on movies, books, or any other form of media. Anti-video game advocates have completely failed to show that video games have a significantly different effect on people than any other form of media, so they cannot be given such exclusive control. I saw holocaust videos in middle school during class, which were far more graphic than any video game has ever been or will probably ever be, yet it was important to see them to understand what had happened. Who gets to say what content children should be "sheltered" from?

@ MaskedPixelante

Freedom of Speech (also sometimes referred to as Freedom of Expression) is one of the things makes the USA unique amongst nations. Within limits, one can say or express things without fear of censorship or reprisal from the government. There are very few nations (if any?) that allow that degree of freedom. Laws, or practices that capriciously limit that freedom are to be avoided whenever possible (and though I espouse free speech, I also recognize that there are cases where restrictions must apply).

Laws that criminlize some sales of games with mature content would have a chilling effect on the type of games produced. Hypothetical example: Wal_mart is or was the largest retailer of game software in the USA. Rather than risk massive fines or jail time for employees for selling an M rated game to someone younger than 17, they might simply choose not to carry M rated games. If the largest retailer of games no longer carried M games, the likelihood of major publishers wanting to make such games could be severely reduced (i.e.; "the chilling effect").

Furthermore, it's a "slippery slope" issue. If we become willing to censor some forms of speech (or try to force it into classifications currently used to restrict the sale of things like pornography), it makes it that much easier for politicians, who hold power, sociocrats, and activists to suppress other forms of expression ... such as opinions that disagree with their policies, practices, or points of view.

I forgot to add that the last bit at the end was alughable, "I'm actually defending freedom! Because if I don't, something worse will happen!" It's a fairly common ruse that those who try to take away our freedoms often cloak themselves in rightousness and try to scare people by making them think that a catastrophe is around the corner.

@Goodrobotus

I have a hard time beleiving after the LA debacle that any politician would want to work with JT ever again. There's planty of evidence here and elsewhere about what happened. All someone has to do is look it up and forward it to the politico in question. As I said once before, JT is pretty good at damning himslef with his own words. Consideirng how high profile this was, I think most politicians would think twice about dealing with him.

From that link:

Interviewer: "Are there any games you have personally enjoyed playing?"

J.T: "No. I have so little time on this earth that I choose not to waste it in what amounts to mental masturbation. I have played the violent games I have targeted to know what I am talking about. The stomping of women in GTA, in light of my representation of women who have been battered and raped made me nauseous. Anyone who "enjoys" a game like that is off his rocker."

This is exactly why I tend not to believe anything he says, because he says it out of ignorance. His view is one which will never change because he is unwilling to see any other side rather than the one he does.

His comment on the "Modest Video Game Proposal" is also slightly disturbing, almost as if he wants to do those things himself.

On topic, let him waste more money for Louisiana I'm sure they won't continue to take that lying down, there will be a point where they will say, "No."

-Auto

Meanwhile, as Jack continues his crusade for decency in video games, the FCC's own standards are being taken apart by Fox in court.

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/federal-court-grills-fcc-fox/story.aspx?guid=%7BEA170DF0-9F18-444C-96EA-F2EDEAAA05BC%7D

Ya know, I'm 21, jobless, so I can't afford a firearm, and the ones in reach don't have ammo, and I've been playing violent games since I was 13, Duke Nukem Time to kill, Grand Theft Auto, Conker's Bad Fur day, Mortal Kombat, Killer Instinct..... just, alot of very violent games. If he can explain to me in a mature and polite manner, why I haven't killed anyone in my years as a gamer, then I might listen. Of course, if that happens I expect to see a pig flying next to a 747 jet.

New York sounds reasonable, that's the state with Clinton as senator, right? He could be going after his old "friends", on some sort of revenge platform. If it's true, keep your ears open for a legislation attempt in the state with Joe Lieberman as senator.

Lousiana didn't even put up much of a defense in this as apparently the attorney general didn't want to have to enforce this law. Think what it would have cost if the case took a few months.

@Shoehorn, the ESA needs that money to pay their lawyers. With E3 gone, they're not phenomonally rich.

I dont understand what's wrong with these legislations, now that I've looked at them. Most of them just restrict sale of M rated games for people under 17. Is it the principle of the matter that's the problem or... what is it, exactly that makes everyone hate these legislations that much?

From the interview linked above (the words of JT): "By contrast, the US video game enthusiast site GamePolitics has denied me posting privileges and has even gone so far as to prevent me, technologically, from even viewing this site at which I am nearly daily attacked."

Amazing, then, that he continues to send press releases to Dennis or fails to admit his wrongdoing in what repeatedly got him banned from this site.

"Well, that’s $157,548 that should have gone towards repairing the damage from Hurricanes Katrina and Rita(which everyone seems to have forgotten) or towards building up the coastline, or towards new hurricane-protection levees in areas of the state that doesn’t have them."

I doubt he cares how much money gets wasted as long as he gets his way.

@Yuki:

Geez, bro, you need to warn us when you post a link that makes Jack's ugly face pop up without warning! How will I get to sleep now? =)

@GP:

Sorry, I didn't think that one was THAT bad.

@ DANIEL

Dude, you need to tone down your comments. I've deleted this one. Stick to the issues, please...

@ Hayabusa.... Ditto for you, please.

What. A. Jackass.

Why do people constantly want to interview this nut? In his own little mind, his own little world he believes he is always right.

And he wants to bring on more lawsuits?! He talks about wasting time on earth playing videogames. It must be more productive than spending up his life now filing all these lawsuits that always end up failing right and left. Life will pass him by and all he'll have to show for it is a bunch of failed lawsuits.

- Warren Lewis........

Hey! It's not like it is his money.


(Does the sarcasm come through?)

When will they learn?? THESE LAWS WILL ALWAYS FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@Daniel

e-mail me

To Thefremen,

Trust me, you will get the kick out of it when you see another Jack's lawsuit coming by like an 747 Boenig airplane, but will soon be dropping down to the ground and crashed into scraps of metal.

And by the way, the reason why Jack Thompson loves talking about war, is because he is not a man of peace, he is a man of hatred and racism.

Although I don't believe there is gods, but I believe that each of us has demons lurking in our minds and causes us anixiety and trouble, so to dolts like Jack Thompson, back out of us or join us, together we can fight evil, secluding ourselves just because we are different makes good fight weak.

[...] Jacko/Louisiana law fails - Jack to try again - If at 1st you don’t succeed… [...]

Why must Jack always bring the bible into these things? Does he think that being "christian" make his rule absolute? Does he think it makes him invulnerable to any criticism? I mean, maybe if he actually *read* the bible, he would realize that most of the violence in it is 10x worse then any video game has ever had. But hey, what do I know? I'm just a gamer devil.

I agree with you Chuma.

Evangelist like JT are one of the denominations of Christianity I dislike more than others. They have skewed the bible to their form of thinking to make it look like they are (as chuma says,) "holier than thou."

I wonder what kind of games, movies or books these anti-game freaks would create with their (no violence, no sex, no blood) approach. It'd probably be copies of other works and boring to say the least.

[...] More: Information originally from law.com story, however gamepolitics.com has it laid out easier to read. Info about Washington budget, Info about Indiana budget. I know JT may not have been directly involved, but as the leading proponent of video game legislation he surely influenced them. [...]