German Government Bans "Crackdown" for Xbox 360

January 9, 2007 -
Numerous sites have reported that the German government has effectively banned Crackdown, an upcoming cops-and-robbers shooter published by Microsoft for the Xbox 360. Crackdown thus joins Gears of War and Dead Rising as 360 games unwelcome in Germany.

Perhaps not coincidentally, German politicians are currently debating a crackdown of another sort. Proposed legislation would make creators, distributors and even players of violent games subject to legal penalties which could include jail time.

As detailed by GameSpot, the USK, Germany's ratings board, has refused classification of Crackdown, which means that it cannot be sold to minors or via online orders. In addition, it cannot be displayed in stores or advertised.

Of the German government's decision, Microsoft told GameSpot:
Microsoft respects the decision of the German ratings board - the USK - not to provide the title with a rating. While Microsoft will continue to follow its policy of not publishing unrated titles, we remain committed to delivering Crackdown and other top-quality entertainment experiences to age-appropriate audiences around the world.

Set for a late February launch in North America, Crackdown will carry an M-rating from the ESRB for Blood and Gore, Intense Violence, Sexual Themes, Strong Language, and Use of Drugs.

Comments

In the case of Microsoft's policy of not selling games that recieve the "not approved for juveniles" here, the factual "ban" comes from Microsoft and not from the USK / state institutions.
I wonder why they do this. Dead Rising and Gears of War being topsellers and all. It's a measure to somewhat protect their corporate image I guess.

Anyway, sad to see yet another top-title for the 360 not (easily) available in Germany.
Considering the outlawing of violent games, this is all a knee-jerk populist reaction from the media-attentionwhoring German politicians. It's got nothing to do with the actual problems at hand, that cause things like the recent school shootings.
I have to hope for the reasoning ability of my government not to pass such an outright stupid law...
If this law is passed, I might well consider moving out of the country. Not beacuse I'm such an uber-geek and can't live without my precious gory games, but because such an act would show that our government does everything for a little media attention.

Hey guys,

nice discussion around here, well I am german and in posession of GoW and DeadRising and i really enjoy it.(ordered on e-seller)
what is true is, that we got hell conservative politics, especially in bavaria which see no other reaction on amok-idiots and school-raiders then forbidding "killer-games" as they call it.
why?? well they looked on the computers of the school raiders after they committed suicide and what they found? Counterstrike (xtraLOL)
And thats, what the whole avalanche started.
I hope they will enable a real discussion about it one day, instead of barkin one-way decissions that wont help a sh*t.
thx
and greetinx from old europe ;)

"Proposed legislation would make creators, distributors and even players of violent games subject to legal penalties which could include jail time."

So....it's possible to receive jail time for playing a violent video game? Wow, that's ridiculous.

If it's happening in Germany it won't be long before it reaches here.

Enough with the Nazi stuff, oy. It's too obvious. Try Communist E. Germany in the 50's oy. Why doesn't Jack "games' Bill O'Reilly/Joseph McCarthy" Offson spend his time and pointless debates there, oy? Anyone up for something by Twisted Sister oy?

If I were to venture a guess, I'd say this joke is a comparison between Thompson and a certain 1940s German dictator, am I correct?

Back on to the topic, I still think no one's actually trying these games out before they rate the game, and they're basing their decision on word of mouth.

Really, Jatone? I swear, I've been seeing it every 10 posts or so in Germay-related articles since that one German minister got on his 'zoomj gamer r teh evil' bit.

Anyways, I'm glad to see that the game's not 'banned', just 'really, really restricted,' though that in itself shouldn't have happened in the first place. Seriously, is there some part in this game where the cop busts out a chainsaw and goes to town on the bad guys that I just haven't seen?

I don't know what Germany's problem is. I thought nothing could be more ridiculous than the assault on violent video games after the Columbine Massacre, but this is too much. A crazy psychopath plays counterstrike and then shoots up a school and now Germany wants to ban all violent video games? This makes me sick. I am happy I live in America where there's freedom even though people like Jack Thompson are constantly trying to take it away. I feel sorry for gamers who live in Germany. Going to jail for playing a violent video game is crazy and it should never happen anywhere anytime. That will be a sad day if it ever happens.

@MrKenyon
Lmao, I actually must have missed that joke.

"German government has effectively banned Crackdown"
Well I guess you could say that. Its not on the "banned list", you just have to be 18 to buy it, and it cannot be publicaly advertised or displayed. Personaly I dont think its fair, I wouldnt say they banned it.
It looks to me like "crackdown" is a game thats target audiance appears to be players under the age of 18 which is why they dont want to rate it. Bottom line is if you want to buy it you still can.

Yeah, we all THINK that this is censorship, but I know the truth. This is all a conspiracy of the German government trying to get rid of competition in the country for the Halo 3 beta invites contained in special cases of Crackdown. Trust me, OR ELSE!!!111!!!.

Hah! Loophole! You didn't say "Jack Thompson" should move to Germany! My pistol remains unwhipped.

@MrKenyon.

Thompson should move to Germany. :p

I swear, I'm gonna pistol-whip the next guy who puts Jack Thompson and Germany in the same sentence. We got the damn joke the first time. Let it die.

Now, how the heck did the USK come to this decision? Granted, I haven't seen a whole lot of gameplay footage for Crackdown, but what violence I've seen seems blatantly exaggerated, almost cartoony. Far from the fairly realistic bloody stuff you'll find in GoW or Dead Rising. Then again, seeing all the fun stuff the ESRB has it pegged for, I might just be missing all the gorey stuff. Has anyone been able to see any of the stuff the ESRB's seeing?

You know I think Jack thompson should move to germany I think he might like it better there.

Microsoft sounds like they are nicely saying 'well screw you, we have other places to sell this game"

Going by early news, Crackdown is nowhere near the levels of violence in Dead Rising and Gears of War.....

Do people in Germany actually PLAY these games before they ban them, or are all their decisions based on word of mouth?

Germany deserves to see the video game industry abandon it. Don't Crytek have their HQ there?

I love the fact that Brothel Tycoon was given a 16+ rating, yet violent games often get banned here.

As you can see here (http://www.spielegrotte.de/index.php?kat=100078&anr=40819&hb=3) the game can be ordered online from a German retailer, but only if you are older than 18 and verify your age (e.g. by sending a copy of yourd ID as a fax).
So the word "banned" is actually a bit inaccurate.

Why do the game developers always shrink up in a little ball and say "All right, fine, do what you want, we respect you, etc". Why don't they actually SPEAK UP against the persecution of their medium?

Oy, they can have thompson since it's obvious they'll cater to him.

Honestly, the last thign we need is amm for the anti gamers to eat up. "Look, they ban these games in Germany." Well we aren't Germany.

[...] German Government Bans “Crackdown” for Xbox 360 [GamePolitics] [...]

[...] German Government Bans “Crackdown” for Xbox 360 [GamePolitics] [...]

Saying it's "Banned" is so and so...

Some people should really read the whole article and not just the headline...and some other people should really stop using the word "Ban" in this context because it's just wrong. By refusing to give a game a rating the USK yields to the pressure coming from above, namely dumb politicians. The result is that it can't be sold through "official channels" which doesn't mean shit because you can order it elsewhere...MS knows this very well;-)
To get your rating refused it doesn't have to be graphic. In this case the violence was probably considered "problematic" for some strange reason nobody really gives a fuck about.

[...] Dale’s Comment: Crackdown has been one of my most enjoyed 360 games in the first quarter of 2007. Importantly, the May 16 Halo 3 public demo of will only be available to a select few and those that purchase specially marked Crackddown units. There will be more than a few disappointed minors in Germany looking forward to playing the Halo 3 public demo.Sources: GameSpot | GamePolitics.com | Business Week [...]

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