In Europe, EU Will Tighten Rules on Game Sales to Minors

January 12, 2007
Continuing concerns over video game content in Europe have led to a call for more uniform standards in how retailers are held accountable for sales to minors.

As reported by the EU Observer, the European Commission will introduce a list of common sanctions against offending retailers. Defining which games would trigger such penalties, however, will be left up to EU member nations individually.

EU justice and security commissioner Franco Frattini (left) said:
I do want to harmonise rules punishing people illegally selling products, people not controlling and checking identity. (But,) we cannot judge from Brussels which videogames should be prohibited.

Frattini's plan appears to have the support of at least eight EU members, including Germany, Britain, Greece, Italy, Hungary, Finland, France and Spain. While video games sold in Europe are rated by the Pan European Game Information (PEGI) system, retailers in most European nations are not legally obligated to abide by the rating system.

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I agree with this new rule. Its better than the proposal this minister put on consideration about banning violent games because blocking sales of games to minors wasn't working. I applaud this :D

no need to overreact like the germans are doing. they're gaming rules are far to extreme

Doctor Proctor, the interesting thing about the "Wal-Mart" effect that you mention is that it simply doesn't occur in the UK. We've had our own legally-enforcable ratings system for years and the only example of a store refusing to stock a game I can recall is Dixons refusing to stock Bully/Canis Canem Edit, which was hilarious as they're not a major games retailer by any means.

I've given it some serious thought and the only real theory I've got is the difference in where games are sold. I'm only going by anecdotal evidence gathered by spending way too much time on internet forums, but there seems to be a fundemental difference in the type of stores people go to get their games. In the UK, it's primarily specialist game chains or entertainment stores that also sell music and movies. Toy and electrical stores also carry games, but they wouldn't be the first port of call for most people, with the exception of Toys 'R' Us and the "parents buying for kids" demographic.

In the US, a lot of people go to Wal-Mart and other large retailers for games. As these are generalists concerned with promoting a specific image, they are much more likely to refuse to carry products which will tarnish that image.

As a European gamer, my main concern is countries with strict laws regarding the actual content of the games having a strong sway over the European parliament. Stopping a 12 year old buying GTA is one thing, censoring the content in any way is an entirely different matter.

@Jotun
I couldn’t have said it better myself. PARENTS are responsible for their children.


Kids need to get it into their heads that there is no such thing as "Freedom" while they are under 18 because they are not legally responsible for themselves, their parents need to get it into there heads that they are responsible for protecting and controlling their children, and lastly the government needs to stop trying to decide what is in the best interest of the child and give the power back to the parents, parents should know what is better for their children then the government.

I don’t see the ESRB as being a good rating system for the base any laws restricting the sales of video games. The ESRB ratings are not in-depth enough. I like the rating system here in Germany because they draw a distinction between 12, 16 and 18 year old. In my opinion "M" rated games are for those are “MATURE”. To me that means 16+ however this has been shifting to 18 because of how broad the M rating is and the need for laws on this matter, that do not infringe on peoples rights

To Jabrwock,

"What if a country just decides to lower the rating on EVERYTHING because it’s cheaper/easier than enforcing the age regulation?"

That's a good question there that is always ready to be answered, Germany and Italy to two countries were both strict about video games killing humans, for example, the former to the two (more stricter) is legislating a law to imprison people playing killing humans games like GTA, Manhunt and even Carmegeddon. While as for the latter of the two, although condemns killing and assaulting humans, allows killing monsters game, prime example would be the game "Carmegeddon", instead of ramming humans, Italy has changed it into zombies and green blood.

In other way, I hope PEGI will do a great job, especially for movies.

And in an addition of a reply to Mr.Freekill,

I agree with you, minors are not allowed to have Mature games, if parents are willing to take the risk, why not? After all, parents have the responsiblity of their children, it's like signing a contract of responsiblity and can never break from it.

Like Uncle Ben from Spider-Man said, "With great power, comes with great responsibility."

@Jabrwock:

"What if a country just decides to lower the rating on EVERYTHING because it’s cheaper/easier than enforcing the age regulation?"

I would laugh.

So they don't want to tell each member state what is or isn't appropriate for minors, they just want to tell each member state to arrest people who provide inappropriate material to minors.

Is that a half-assed solution or what?

What if a country just decides to lower the rating on EVERYTHING because it's cheaper/easier than enforcing the age regulation?
-- If your wiimote goes snicker-snack, check your wrist-strap...

Actually Doctor Proctor, I would expect that this is an attempt to mediate the video game debate, rather than quell video game sales, it's as much an upper limit as a lower one.

The EU has strongly defended video games recently, I'm wondering if this is more about stopping the more technophobic elements from getting carried away, Germany, for example, is on that list of supporting countries, the EU directive would crush the current attempts in Germany to give prison time.

Well, oy. There's nothing you can do about it there, oy. Except educate them. In the totally unrelated book Jim Hightower's Thieves in High Places, we've got to be persistent and struggle our hearts beyond death, to tell them the hard truth oy.(Ha ha hahaahahahah, oy.)

Unless I grossly misread the article they're not talking about universalizing the rating, but rather the legal punishments for going against them. They'll probably still use the PEGI system, or something similar to it, but now retailers (and possibly customers) would be punishable by law for violating it.

As an American, this is disconcerting considering the numerous attempts at legislating videogames. Another potential problem that stems from this sort of action is the "Wal-Mart" effect. Basically, big retailers might stop carrying games like Gears of War that can carry criminal penalties for selling them to minors simply because it's safer.

You might eventually see fewer 17+ games being brought over to Europe because it will be hard to sell them there. In other words, M could become the new AO.

I think we're (the UK) are joining in simply because we can seem like we're making in an effort when in fact we already have this system in place!

I'm suprised we still use the PEGI ratings, as I've never once used them to examine a game, I've always taken notice of the BBFC rating.

IIRC this law is being expanded once there is a Pan-European rating system for film as well, Britain are behind it for the sake of expediency only, most people in the UK go more by the BBFC rating than the PEGI one anyway, and if it's been passed by the board of censors, then very few shops except maybe Dixons will try and tell customers would they do and do not find 'acceptable', and Dixons are paying for it, their customer base is declining ever since they forgot that to be a successful enterprise, you have to convince customers that buying something is their own decision, not treat them like sheep that are unable to think for themselves.

I suppose in Europe, it's a case of computer games playing catch-up, almost the opposite of the US. Many countries in Europe have strict regulation over films and how old you have to be to watch them, and yet have no enforcement of PEGI on Video Games whatsoever. So this isn't as bad as it appears on the surface. I'm not against regulation as such, I'm just against discrimination.

Meh sure why not? Minors don't need adult games anyways. If they want them, they'll have to be more creative to get them. Make them work for it.

@konrad_arflane:

Yeah, it seems like it has some inherency problems. One retailer could face a stiff fine from selling Gears of War to a minor while another in a "non-extradition" country would face nothing at all.

Erm, I hope that was the right use of "non-extradition". =)

Well, that's... a lot more moderate than what came out of his mouth last time he opened it. It seems kind of a strange thing to standardize, though. I mean, what's the point of punishing offenders similarly if their crimes are actually completely different in the first place?

Perhaps if videogames had a proven track record to be detrimental to one's health, such as illegal drugs, then you'd be spot on. However, mr Fratini, since they have just the opposite, you fail.

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