Utah Newspaper Lauds Decision to Drop Video Game Legislation

Utah Newspaper Lauds Decision to Drop Video Game Legislation

February 2, 2007
It has been a wild ride in the Utah legislature of late as the House Public Utilities and Technology Committee gave consideration to HB50, video game legislation authored by Jack Thompson.

During the bill's short but turbulent existence, the controversial anti-game attorney directed harsh criticism at Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff, who offered a legal opinion that the measure was unconstitutional.

An editorial in the Provo Daily Herald congratulates the Utah House on distancing itslef from HB50 in favor of a resolution on the violent game issue proposed by Rep. Kay McIff (left). Here's what the newspaper had to say:
Common sense is finally prevailing in the violent video game debate on Capitol Hill... (Rep.) McIff proposes to replace House Bill 50 with a resolution condemning video game violence.

A resolution, which carries no legal weight but makes a philosophical statement, avoids the risk of a lawsuit and allows (bill sponsor Rep. Scott) Wyatt to save face...

Better preliminary research and smarter bill writing at the front end of the legislative process would save valuable time. We'd like to see several lawmakers engage in a little more consultation and exercise a little more discipline in the bills they choose to introduce. New laws are not the answer to every little problem.

Comments

Korrd, that's a great point, but it also shows you don't live in Utah. The Legislature here always spends the first 90% of their session on moral grandstanding. Often passing unconstitutional laws that cost the state hundreds of thousands of dollars to unsuccessfully defend in court. And leaves the last 10% to quickly underfund boring things like necessary social services. For your amusement, here's a few of the other very important bills under consideration this session.

HB148 (aka the "abandon a sinking ship incentive program") would allow parents to spend public money on private school tuition. This despite (or because of) the fact that Utah is dead last in public school funding in the nation.

HB104 Would make all "gambling-like activities" illegal in bars and pubs, even if no actual gambling takes place. Church fund raisers however, would be exempt. This bill sends a clear message, if you want to play cards or bingo in Utah, get ye to the house of god.

HB236 Is aimed at eliminating gay-straight alliance clubs in high schools. It would reject clubs deemed to violate the "moral well-being" of students or that "involve human sexuality".


HB202 The "Ritalin bill" would make it illegal for teachers to require a student to take "psychotropic" drugs, or remove a child from parental custody for failure to take said drugs. As far as anyone knows, this has never happened, and is already forbidden by school district rules. But that is not enough to satisfy sponsors of the bill that their children will not tied to a desk and forced to drop R, then stolen by the courts to be raised by their god-hating, drug-taking, gay-loving, gambling-addicted, videogame-playing educators.
Its not about video games man. Jack writes this drivel for his own lawsuit business. Ever note the vagueness of the concepts discussed. The Louisiana Bill had a clause that amounted to if anyone was offended then the game company was liable.
@entr0py

Wow, those bills are frickin' crazy. In a bad way i mean. Essecially that last one.
Poor Jack...has he ever gotten any of these through?
See this is a lot better. Don't waste time passing unconstitutional laws. I don't really care if you denounce video game violence, so long as you don't try and stop me from making my own choices on the video games I play. By the way, does anyone know if passing a non-binding resolution actually costs money, and if so how much? If it's free, then I don't really care, but if it costs a bundle of taxpayers' money just so Wyatt can save face, then I think that this is a stupid idea.
"Better preliminary research and smarter bill writing at the front end"

Ahahhaha. Touche.
I wonder who jack is going to sue
@neoelasticman
You are referring to Luke 6:42
HAHAHA, taking bets here people. Is JT gonna blame the AG or Wyatt for this one.
Non-binding resolutions are a waste of a Legislature's time and effort. They accomplish absolutely nothing. But it sure beats the alternative...passing real laws that accomplish absolutely nothing, but cost the taxpayers a lot of money in the process.
so esentually they are going with a Resolution that means absolutly nothing and consists of the legislaters, basically saying "violence is bad" thus spending money to draft this resolution and acomplishing absolutly nothing

now mind you i'm aware this is better then then passing house bill 50, having it shot down in court and spending more money to pay the legal bills, but my question is whats the point of the resolution?
"That’s the problem with people like Jack, they are so egocentric they think their own misinterpretations are more important than the US Constitution.

They really need to get over themselves."

@ GoodRobotUs
The funny part is, JT said the same thing about the youth in that article a while back. I do believe there's something in the Bible to the effect of "Quit judging other people's problems when you have exactly the same problem anyway." Something about a splinter in the eye versus an entire beam in the eye.
Oops I meant the article before this one. The one about the video game debate.
That's the problem with people like Jack, they are so egocentric they think their own misinterpretations are more important than the US Constitution.

They really need to get over themselves.
"We’d like to see several lawmakers engage in a little more consultation and exercise a little more discipline in the bills they choose to introduce."

Wow, I've been saying that for a while and I'm sort of shocked that they figured it out. Seriously, lawmakers need to get in some more consultation time with constitutionalists and researchers instead of listening to JT pop off about the ills of the video game world.

So bravo Utah! You get a gold star by your name!
Props to Utah for finaly getting this. This debate is finally seeing a little progress.
Yay, a non-binding resolution! "We want to go on the record as saying we really don't like or understand video games. That is all."

All things considered, it's a much better waste of time and money than passing an unconstitutional law. Granted, they could be spending the time and money on more important and productive things, but these are politicians after all.
Well... I wonder how McIff's alternative will play out?

Still, it must be better than the proposed bill brought to Utah by Jack Thompson. Oh, I'm sure HE'S smiling about it.....^_^
To quote a line from Night of the Living Dead, "That's another one for the fire."

Thanks for wating our time and money again, Jack. Next up, Massachusetts. ::Gets out the popcorn::
They should treat JT like Phoenix Wright...everytime he tries to say something about about Videogame violence and its effects on children or teens they should make him present evidence. Trust me, that will screw you almost everytime.
Might have to forward this story to the Boston Herald...
I'm not the most politically-minded person around (in truth, I have little use for politics in general), but... just what is the point of passing a resolution solely for the purpose of entering into the public record "violent video games are bad, mmmkay?" I have trouble understanding the motivation to invest effort into something that quite literally accomplishes nothing.

To anyone more law-savvy than I: Could a new anti-game bill refer back on a resolution as evidence that violent games are bad? Or is it really as useless as it seems at first glance?
"New laws are not the answer to every little problem."

That's my thoughts exactly. We don't need to legislate every aspect of life esspecially when there was no problem to being with.
There is still a problem. Jack thompson bill has been dropped but from the way I read the quote there still going to pursue the matter. Now the problem I foresee is if they have someone smarter and sly draft a bill similar to jack thompson and be ruled constitutional.

I keep seeing this matter play out like the communication decency act.

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