""It is no exaggeration to say that video games can help create killers… Currently, a 10-year-old could purchase a Mature (M-rated) or Adult Only (AO-rated) video game. Voluntary guidelines tell retailers not to sell these products to children, but they have been a failure…"""

no exaggeration? of course it's an exageration. and bulls--t in the fullest.

"""The evidence is conclusive: Countless independent studies confirm that repeated exposure to graphic sexual, violent and profanity-laced video games has a harmful and long-term affect on children…"""

Show me ONE.


"""If these games are marketed to and manufactured for adults, as the industry insists, then their sale to minors should be restricted. This solution protects our children without interfering with the rights of adults…"""

No, it doesn't, because it simply turns them into a black market-ish item, and turns game stores into adult stores, which is disgusting.


"""Video game stores have failed to police themselves."""

Would you like some truth with those lies sir?

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Did anyone check out the blog for the Indy Star? Winter doesn't have a single supporter on the comments.

Mysticgamer:

When HotCoffee hit, it was rerated as AO. They would supply stickers to stores, but most stores simply sent it back. GameStop had signs in the windows and standup ads but still refused to sell it to me.

My description of what happened then

Where can they get an AO game? I had trouble finding GTA:SA after it was rerated.

I heard about this happening but to be honest I've never seen GTA: SA with
an AO rating anywhere...even when they rereleased it as a greatest hit.

I don't know how people can take the PTC seriously. People in the PTC are the kind of people who would get into an argument with their Rice Crispies because they thought they heard "snap, crackle, @#$@ you!". It's absolutly astounding that they have "Evidence" that video games cause violence. When I haven't found any conclusive evedence in my life EVER!

They always leave a little off that statement about how a kid can buy an AO game.

The part they drop look like this

"under law. However it would be unconstitutional to restrict it under law. We also would like you to disregard the fact that 99% of retailers do not carry AO games, there are less than 30 AO rated games in the ESRB history, and most retailers have policies in place that say you have to be 17+ to buy an M rated game."

But hey! Thats a mouthful to say. Its also pretty inconvenient when you have an agenda you want to push. Sure your point is moot too but hey, the people don't need worry their pretty little heads, you got your best... I mean their best interests at heart.

I know it is best to open with a joke, but really it would be a good idea to make sure the content that follows isn't in the same tone. Seriously, leave the truthiness to Stephen Colbert.

"All the uproar, and the complaints to the FCC about indecency on TV? 90% of that is the PTC."

Actually, FCC statistics put it closer to 99.8% of all complaints filed are by PTC members.

"If these games are marketed to and manufactured for adults, as the industry insists, then their sale to minors should be restricted."

M-rated games are marketed to and manufactured for 17-year olds as well, and last time I checked, they were considered minors. PTC fails.

"It is no exaggeration to say that video games can help create killers"

*sigh*
I should start all my ill-informed opinions with the phrase "It is no exaggeration to say..."

The UCLU, PTC, the NIMF... these are just some of the groups that are a thorn in the side of the game industry. The NIMF isn't nearly as bad as the first two groups however, though the UCLU hasn't done much but support controversial topics in fairly bad ways. The PTC is about as credible as the Western Baptist guys.

@wolf

"If these guys are anything like NIMF, then bloody hell…not another psycho-conservative group."

Like NIMF? No, the PTC is much worse. NIMF from what I've gathered is more about informing parents, letting them make their own decisions.

The PTC on the other hand would like nothing better then to shape media to what they think is right. Remember all that crap with Janet Jackson and her infamous nipple? All the uproar, and the complaints to the FCC about indecency on TV? 90% of that is the PTC.

Long-term, huh? So where are these studies that started at least ten years ago and recently re-examined the children? Or by long-term, do you mean that two minutes after playing the game, the child honked a horn a little louder than the one that was playing the Sims™. I'd bet money that a kid playing DDR, or football would also honk the horn louder.
The article also makes it sound like the stores have a 0% success rating. That any kid can buy an M-rated game at any time without fear of being carded. That's a bit shy of the 65% in the reports I read.

"And I am willing to argue this point until nothing makes sense anymore, and if that doesn't work, the hours upon hours of whining will." - Red Mage, 8Bit Theater

(excuse the double post)

“Currently, a 10-year-old could purchase a Mature (M-rated) or Adult Only (AO-rated) video game.”

Where can they get an AO game? I had trouble finding GTA:SA after it was rerated.


Obviously, he must be referring to the army of ten year olds with credit cards ordering the uncensored version of Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude off Amazon.com.

While Brent Bozell may no longer be head of the PTC (he stepped down last year), I see he did well in choosing a succussor. From this piece, I can see Tim Winter just as big a reactionary and delusional nut as he was!

I'd love to hear someone put these politicians on the spot and ask *what* studies they're basing these accusations on. I've never seen them name a specific study; no doubt they don't even know whether such studies have been done, they've just been told that they have by some intern.

"It is no exaggeration to say that video games can help create killers…"

It's a HUGE exaggeration. Saying that it's not an exaggeration is pretty much a flat-out lie at best, and libel at worst.

"The evidence is conclusive"

No, it's not. Not by a long, long shot - and I have a long list of court judgements (and bills for legal fees) that back my position up. What've you got?

"Video game stores have failed to police themselves."

Maybe, but I'd submit that parents have failed their children by not making an effort to involve themselves in their child's life.

'Countless independent studies confirm that repeated exposure to graphic sexual, violent and profanity-laced video games has a harmful and long-term affect on children…'

I think I'm going to coin a new phrase of 'anti-fact', it is a comment that is designed to do as much damage to the truth as possible, worse than a lie, which is simply not the truth and doesn't care what the truth is, an anti-fact is deliberately targetted to damage the truth itself.

"It is no exaggeration to say that video games can help create killers…"

Yes, yes it is. It is a MASSIVE exaggeration. This guy's opening line made me completely disregard the rest of the piece.

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