What you're spouting off, loupgarous, is little more than empty rhetoric. I also find it beyond amusing that you're espousing Joe Liebermann, of all people, on a website such as this - which isn't to say that you can't cheer for whoever you want to cheer for, but come on. If you actually had valid arguments that ran deeper than "Democrats are sociopathic anti-patriots", that would be another thing.

So B.O. doesn't think kids should be playing Game Boy. Looks as though he's hunting free stamplickers and phone jockeys for his run at the White House.

Barack Hussein Obama our next President? Not likely. The Democrats have Congress now, and so they have about a year and a half to show that they have absolutely no ideas on how to solve the problems they made so much noise about before the '06 election. No ideas, no resolve, no patriotism and no brains.

I'd vote Democrat in a heartbeat if they'd had the character and morals to run Lieberman as their Presidential candidate. Instead, they back-stabbed him during his re-election campaign - and Lieberman beat their rich-bitch millionaire replacement candidate like a drum. Lieberman is now representing Connecticut as an Independent. So much for "being in touch with the people."

Barack Obama will lose and lose big if the Democrats run him as their Presidential candidate. So will Hillary Clinton. Neither one is going to have much more than media buzz going for them.

It's going to be an amusing year and a half. Hillary Clinton is already beginning to chafe at the idea that B.O. is stealing her spotlight. She's already permanently pissed off more than half of the electorate - but unlike the way her husband won two elections, any "spoiler" candidate is going to do as Ralph Nader did - hurt the left much, much worse than the right.

Serves them right. The Democrats have served us up nothing but sociopathic losers as alternatives to what the Republicans offer.

And the solution is to stop playing video games? That sounds funny coming from the front-runner of a party that is firmly out of touch with reality and has been for better than a decade.

Picho
Juliani will diffenalty NOT do his best for the people...

I think the biggest issue is that the voting youth no longer identifies with their political leaders. The politicians are addressing the concerns that are important to generation x and y. We are bombarded by smoke and mirrors and terror at every turn. Fear no longer sways the youth, the boy in the white house has cried wolf too many times.

If you want the youth vote, address concerns of social security in the upcoming years (Wait that would show a flaw in a huge economic system). Job opportunities, education costs, etc.. these are youth concerns that go largely ignored because they haven't bothered to come up with an answer yet.

The youth just doesn't care because they've been ignored for too long.

If you're looking for the ideal, pro-video game, pro-art/youth culture politician, you sadly will not find him in this lifetime.

Seriously. A political candidate has to play to the greatest common denominator, without completely ostracizing many dozens of niche groups.

Passionate gamers, whether adult or younger, are a fairly small niche group, from a political standpoint. Because, frankly, they are not a vocal and politically relevant demographic. See: Doug Lowenstein's rant on his industry getting pushed around.

While I'd love for Obama to come forth and champion the next enlightened age of high/hyper culture that the internet makes available, as a presidential hopeful, we can't expect this from him.

While its easy to have a chip on your shoulder about a politician's loose language in disparaging gaming, the fact is that, yes, he has a good point: the youth of America, in broad generalization, are not (or don't appear) as politically minded as they were 10 years ago.

agro,

And a party whose base is made up of christian fundamentalists who have always had one of their main goals to censor is better?

I agree that the Democrats arent very good either, theyre socialist lite, but I think when you consider video games and whose more likely to pass censorial legislation and nominate Judges that view the 1st Amend more narrowly, theyre much more preferable.

Wow, you people are worse than the republicans.

He wants people to get up and do something. Are we gamers getting a persecution complex now?

Shame. Shaaaame.

Vote Napolian today! How could you go wrong? Anyway I vote, I play, now it's back to RE 4. I'm such a slacker.

@aargo
Children are too stupid to be involved with politics, especially those who would support democrats.

Excuse me!!???????? I can not believe you just said that it sounds like something Jack thompson or Ann coulter would say (can someone check to make sure this isn't either of them). For starters you should not be grouping every 'child' as too stupid to be in politics (only adults can vote), we all think act and believe differently just like everyone else. Sterotyping child is exactly like stereotyping gamers or anything else. You should also look at adults, there are those who blindly follow their party no matter who runs there are those who take in whatever the media tells them and of course there are the assorted soccer moms who will jump on the demonizing bandwagon to censor anything (including games). I may also point to the stupidity of politicians which has been pointed out time and time again on this very site. Also how the heck is voting democrat stupider than voting republican. What is wrong with not liking our current administration that got us into iraq, a federal deficiet and one that continues to muck things up. Why don't you just go crawl back to the rock you've been living under and don't come out till you actually have something decent to say.

-Jes-

sorry about being upset at ya.

I just get upset when people talk to me like that. I didn't write the article, and I do get a bit passionate about politics. I am also a gamer, and eventually I was led to this site along time ago, and here I still am.

hell, i even wrote an article about it in a newspaper a few days ago..
http://media.www.dailytitan.com/media/storage/paper861/news/2007/02/22/O...

@Gamepolitics

I have been a long time reader and I base what I say on what on the experience.

I never said you were biased, not onced. I just said I wonder. I was just being a bit critical and even a little bit paranoid of the article, espeically with the second half mentioning he turned down an ESA donation (which can be for many reasons other than being a player hater). that whole paragraph just seems editorialized to me, and it seems like something the Obama haters can eat up and use to campaign against him. And I would have mentioned the Game Decision 2008 piece in an article of its own. Sorry, but like Obama's comment, people can take things out of context.

I apoligize for the "bias" comment.

@ -Arion

Just looked to me like you weren't all that 'chilly' when you wrote your second post, which in my humble opinion made you look like you to wanted to brand Dennis with a huge "bias" iron.

Personally, I see little bias in GP's post. All Dennis has achieved is to bring Obama's message - which basically revolves around 'people getting out there' - forth, which I do not find "negative" in the slightest sense.

In fact, I deem it to be supportive of gaming as a whole because it denotes game-playing as a typical 'use of free time', as opposed to it being mindless, mastubatory killer-training as Jack Thompson would've claimed..

I even found it to be a bit humorful with the a-b-c choices.
And exactly what lies are you referring to? Obama made a valid statement: Get off your (our) ass(es) and do something.



Anyway, we're beating around the bush here. We both agree that Obama's comment was in no way derogatory, and we're both even supportive of the guy in saying what he did. We both agree that there are slackers in every culture-corner, including gamers. We just have differing views on Dennis' method of bringing that slice of info along.

And I do apologize for offending you. You just appeared strongly agitated by Dennis' "bias" to me at first, but looking over again, i believe the line about flaming was a bit too harsh from my part.

Children are too stupid to be involved with politics, especially those who would support democrats.

Obama would be a terrible president, he knows or says little about actually politics and he focuses only on being "down with the common man".

why do we even care about what tiny remark about video games, positive or negitive, every poltitican says.

--Jes-

I am quite chilled thank you.. and I have a very good point about certain people focusing in on the negative... that's how lies and rumors are spread.

who said i was flaming anyone? I gazed through a lot of comments and noticed some people jumping to conclusions. Is it wrong to be upset and passionate?

And if I flamed anyone, WHO?

I agree with Terminator44 and GamerDad, but I never said or inferred "games cause people to become possessed by evil"

i think you confused me with someone else.

–Jes-

on a side note

I don't like to be flamed btw

hope*

Oh, and as a side note, I believe that we (most of us GP readers anyway) aren't really the ones he's targetting with his message, as we're basically here trying to figure out where and when to do what. ;)

It was just sort of a joke, people are taking it way too seriously.

I think Obama would probably be good on 1st Amend issues and I tthink he would nominate the kind of judges to the federal courts and the supreme court that would protect video games from censorship.

Im not a supporter, but thats just the impression I get. He's not a moralizer type, like all the republicans are and like Hillary would be.

I don't see what's biased about it. If anything, the comments are what are giving it a seemingly biased edge. The article itself pretty much to-the-point, and half of it is just a quote from the Associated Press. No opinions are pushed on it or anything.

Thefremen
I dunno the Mexicans are cought in the cross fire of the middle class and the corporations,the "free border" is not helping things and we need a better immigration system than letting millions of people become citizens every 10 years so the corporations have better slave wagers,with that said it is below Global warming and Iran building nukes/North Korea building ICBMs,but then corporations are able to sell anything to any one they wont care if terrorists run the world...

The 2 party system is broken and no matter who you chose its more of the same if you are not crooked you cant make money anymore.....

Brer
well is the best dem running so far,which is sad....

Plenty of reasons not to vote for or even -like- Obama besides this one.

Hey! How bout I be politically active AND play GameBoy? How do you like that?!

But yeah, more young people eligible to vote should get out there and do it

@ Arion

Why did you single out Dennis?

Yeah, I'm not really seeing this as a bashing of video games, as much as a call to arms for young, voting-age adults to get off their butts and get politically active. I mean, unless you LIKE socially and culturally out-of-touch older people deciding who your political representatives are...

It's weird how gamers get upset with something like this. Barack didn't say anything bad about video games. Again, he meant c): "it’s time to become more politically active."

As for his last quote, it's the same idea and he's probably right. Kids shouldn't be playing video games when they should be doing their homework. Common sense.

Oh yeah!

Better pay attention to politics so I can determine which one is the least corrupt and out-of-touch with their constituents!

:D

Here's my thought.

Although it isn't the only issue, concern for First Admendment issues and the connection that video games have with them.

Obama shows a complete ignorance of video games in general, and a lack of concern of his ignorance. It tells me that he would be easily influenced by people like Jack Thompson, and would support laws such as ones that were passed in Michigan, Illinois, and Minnesota. Taken to an extreme, it sounds like he would ban video games if he could.

This is not a man I would support for political office.

..LISTEN UP..especially you DENNIS. Obama mentions game boy again, even jokes about it..at about 9:30 mark in this vid on a speech in san francisco:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CZvKtBRe3Q

It is apart of his children's life, and he seems rather accepting of "game boys".

Actually, I don't think this is really directed towards video games and television themselves, so much as it's directed towards the people using them.

In other words, this isn't about how the big, evil video game industry is corrupting our youth. This is about how the "damn kids" are playing their games and watching their TV when they should be out voting or something. Games are part of it sure, but it's really the "damn lazy kids" he's got a problem with.

the returned donation however, is another story altogether.

I like Obama. I'd sooner back him than Hillary. That having been said however, it's still a little disheartening to hear him say something like that. Of all the current crop of politicians, he's closest to us in age and consequently you'd think he'd know better, but things like this seem to show he's just as out of touch as the rest of them.

I don't think though, that he's necessarily bashing video games. Note he included TV as well. It's more like he's bashing political apathy among young people in general, which is laudable and something even I can get behind. As such I agree with the message, but I disagree with how he's saying it.

I might send an email to Mr. Obama politely asking he tone down his rhetoric when it comes to gaming. There's nothing wrong with his message in and of itself, however with games being demonized by enough politicians already, that latest sound bite doesn't help matters.

Mark Numero Uno of the game-ignorant politician: using Gameboy to refer generally to videogames.

My question is, will he take the $500 donation from Lowenstein, now that Lowenstein isn't the ESA boss?

[...] In all fairness, I had not found my way back to gamepolitics.com yet. When I did, I was startled at the difference in writing style from the last time that I read his work. In fact, a story on some recent comments made by Brarack Obama, provided a perfect point of comparison with a similar story that he ran back when I used to read his blog. [...]

"Damn kids these days with their Pokémans and their GameBoys..."

[...] Barack Obama - “I want you to tell them, ‘It’s time for you to turn off the TV and stop playing GameBoy,’” Obama said. “We’ve got work to do.” The Illinois senator has no game legislation track record, but as reported by the Washington Post, he did rather pointedly return a $500 campaign donation from then-ESA boss Doug Lowenstein. Found at GamePolitics [...]

Obama is a child for conversing with Bill Clinton.show had low he will stoop to get a vote.and still Obama had not point to prove but acting like a whinning child .and all he can do is studder and never completes a sentence.only studders wow dont know about evert one else but i want a president who can complete a sentence and not studder every word .and one that can be on time to make decisions .and i know for a fact that half of his conversing with Hillary when confronted that he told not one but several blaton lies.hes a bigot .vote Hillary get rid of the lier we have enough of them in the white house now why add to it.Hillary has the plan to get American back on track