New Research Sees Correlation Between Violent Bible Passages and Aggression

In what is likely to be a controversial finding, a team of researchers reports a correlation between violent sciptural passages and real-life aggression.

The research, which may have implications in the ongoing debate over the effects of video game violence, was conducted in part at Utah’s Brigham Young University. As reported by the Deseret News:

a study of 490 students — 248 of them at Brigham Young University — suggests a correlation between exposure to scriptural violence that is condoned by God and increased aggression.

University of Michigan psychologist Brad Bushman, BYU professor Robert Ridge and three other researchers co-wrote “When God Sanctions Killing,” which will appear in the March issue of Psychological Science magazine.

Ridge was careful to point out that the study was not meant as an attack on biblical writings:

We were not saying that reading the scriptures is bad, but we were pointing out that if a person was seeing that kind of (violent) literature, it could have some negative effects… when you think about terrorists and they say, ‘God will sit in judgment,’ and they sometimes refer to a scripture, our question was, ‘Could that really make a person behave more aggressively?’ And the answer is, yes, it could.

In the study, student volunteers were shown bible passages containing references to violent acts such as rape, beatings and murder. Half of the survey group were then shown an additional passage indicating that God sanctioned violent retribution. Those who were given this additional information responded with increased aggression in a subsequent measurement.

The Deseret News reports that the researchers believe their findings are consistent with other studies which show correlation between aggression and violent movies, music and video games. On this point, Ridge said:

We’re not saying that just in and of itself violent media is uniformly bad but oftentimes there is no redeeming context to it…  But if a person dives into (a violent passage) without the context, you could probably get some increased aggression.

Among the researchers involved in the scriptural violence study, Dr. Bushman has prior background with research on aggression and violent video games. In 2005 he was a member of the American Psychological Association’s Committee on Violence in Video Games and Interactive Media. That group issued an oft-cited report linking violent games to increased aggression.

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    yahshua says:

    Published in
    Catholic Digest
    January 1992

    The Mystery of the Magi

    How Yeshu’a become Jesus

    page 17


    We usually don’t think about it, but our Lord’s name was not always Jesus. It was in fact originally the popular Aramaic name Yeshu’a.
    In first century Judea and Galilee, the name Yeshu’a was very common and shared fifth place with Eleazar (Lazarus) in popularity as a name for Jewish men. The most popular male names at that time were Shime’on (Simon), Yosef (Joseph), Yehuda (Judah or Judas) and Yochanan (John).

    In the Holy Land at the time of Christ, Aramaic had replaced Hebrew in everyday conversation, but Hebrew remained the holy language and was used in worship and daily prayers. The rabbis also used Hebrew when instructing their disciples. The two languages were closely related, however, as close as Italian is to Spanish, and both used the same alphabet.

    Yeshu’a was the Aramaic version of the Hebrew name Yehoshu’a (Joshua), and means “Yahweh saves”.

    Throughout Christ’s lifetime in Galilee, Samaria and Judea of course the name Yeshu’a presented no problem for those who spoke Aramaic and read the Bible and prayed in Hebrew. But outside the Holy Land it become a different story as Good News spread.

    The Gentiles of the Roman Empire spoke Greek and Latin and simply could not pronounce Yeshu’a.

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    yahshua says:

    Published in
    Catholic Digest
    January 1992

    The Mystery of the Magi

    How Yeshu’a become Jesus

    page 17


    We usually don’t think about it, but our Lord’s name was not always Jesus. It was in fact originally the popular Aramaic name Yeshu’a.
    In first century Judea and Galilee, the name Yeshu’a was very common and shared fifth place with Eleazar (Lazarus) in popularity as a name for Jewish men. The most popular male names at that time were Shime’on (Simon), Yosef (Joseph), Yehuda (Judah or Judas) and Yochanan (John).

    In the Holy Land at the time of Christ, Aramaic had replaced Hebrew in everyday conversation, but Hebrew remained the holy language and was used in worship and daily prayers. The rabbis also used Hebrew when instructing their disciples. The two languages were closely related, however, as close as Italian is to Spanish, and both used the same alphabet.

    Yeshu’a was the Aramaic version of the Hebrew name Yehoshu’a (Joshua), and means “Yahweh saves”.

    Throughout Christ’s lifetime in Galilee, Samaria and Judea of course the name Yeshu’a presented no problem for those who spoke Aramaic and read the Bible and prayed in Hebrew. But outside the Holy Land it become a different story as Good News spread.

    The Gentiles of the Roman Empire spoke Greek and Latin and simply could not pronounce Yeshu’a.

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    ralfy says:

    Also, if you think about it, the comparison actually does not discourage regulating video games but the opposite: anything deemed harmful to children (which, according to the comparison includes the Bible and video games) should be regulated.

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    monte ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    not quite, not quite… remember this study isn’t just covering ANY form of media, this study is covering the holy bible. The last thing a a vote grabbing politician is gonna do is attack the bible. an honest politician with true concerns might use this study, but the ones we are up against are the ones who are just in it for the votes. And when it comes down to it, where “protecting children” from violent games gains votes, “protecting children” from the bible is a good way to get blasted. No politican on the anti-game side is gonna want to touch this study…. cencorship/regulation of the bible is something that very few politicians would get behind, even though it actually isn’t really a book for children.

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    nightwng2000 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    It’s ever so ironic that this takes place in Utah.

    I wonder if the senators there will be jumping up and down trying to create a counstitutional law to “protect children” from violent religious exposure, or will they play “see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil”.

    But, I stand as I do in regards to those video game “studies”. The study doesn’t discern the various forms of aggression. Anger, frustration, zealous furvor, and so on. And all the varieties of each of those that also affect aggressive feelings.

    I also find it ironic (and I truly believe unplanned) placement of the story just above a PTC story. Now, there needs to be a story about “You know who”, especially one with a “Warrior for God” quote, above this one and I’ll be laughing for the next week. :)

    NW2K Software

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    Tacophiliac says:

    I agree with AgonThalia. This study is pointless with regards to the issue of violent video games because the authors of the study gave them an out. It says right in the article that violence is bad when it’s not framed in the proper context. I think very few people who are against video gaming are going to agree with the argument that the bible is improper context.

    What we’re going to get is people pointing to this study and saying that even the bible can cause violence, but at least it teaches a moral lesson framed in the proper context. Video games, on the other hand, just teach murder and rape.

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    james jones says:

    normally i would say that this dosn’t matter, but considering that the bible is supposed to be the law handed down by “god” i would think it is every theist’s duity to read the bible cover to cover and see what it’s actually saying.

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    ZippyDSMlee says:

    Perhaps because tis a religious text telling people to be Aggressive for god yet they skipping the passages about being lawful and following the law of man….

    and for everyone to say that context blah blah bible teacher the right context blah blah.

    One can read a story and and gain understanding from it at the same time NOT becoming a character in a book and breaking the law.

    Fiction dose not make criminals or insane people however the bible is not fiction persay its guide to faith and foundation of a popular religion the dim can think they are doing gods work doing the most horrible crimes.

    my point being EVERYTHING IN CONTEXT a game is the same as a movie or book and the bible is a book as well to blame the “crime” on the matrail read is to take things out of context.

    do tell what mainstream game teaches that?I know of no rape,and its not murder when you someone is trying to kill you.

    While we are at it lets ban all non religious media because it dose not “teach”…

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    ZippyDSMlee says:

    Pixelantes Anonymous
    *raises my coffee*

    I think a valid point is its not the violence or the issues dealt in what you read but how a person handles it what dose one do with that extra “energy” gained from it,a poorly taught child or teen will express that “energy” in a less refined manner,this falls strongly on parenting and personal responsibility,because both of these are not easy to fix some people want to scape goat the content they read.

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    Pixelantes Anonymous ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Hahhahaha, this is just hilarious.

    I’d LOVE to see the Christian moralists attacking video games based on the SAME type of evidence explain this. I’d love to see them argue themselves into a corner. If they were logical, they’d move to ban bibles. But of course they won’t do that. They will instead point out all the positive sides to religion, the bible and reading the bible. Gee…I wonder if there’s a lesson learned from there…

    Anyone with half a brain understands being exposed to violence will cause an aggressive emotional response (we’re all human, after all), which is exactly what this study measured.

    Anyone with half a brain also understands that doesn’t CAUSE people to actually PERFORM violent acts as morons like Jack Thompson (and his bank account) want us all to believe.

    Whoever did this study…well done indeed!

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    Gamer81 says:

    I don’t know why a lot of people here are slamming the study. No, I don’t believe religion makes people violent, but those who feel video games make people violent are always of the so-called “religious” crowd. Look at JT, or look at Joe Lieberman, or even look at the PTC. These are people who claim the studies on video games convinced them that games are harmful, yet always come to the defense of religion. Because of this study, they are going to have to choose a side. They either claim that religion too is “harmful” to children and ought to be regulated, or they claim this study on religion is flawed, and therefore would make the studies done on video games flawed as well (since they are basically identical studies).

    So I like this study, not because I believe the study is flawless (which of course, isn’t), but because the people who slam video games won’t have a leg to stand on, either way they look at it.

    Also, “context” is something these anti-gamers always use as an excuse because they feel the things that they like are ok, but the things that they don’t like (e.g. video games) are not ok in regards to context. Remember, these are the same people who claim kids are young, vulnerable, impressionable, cannot even tell the difference between fantasy and reality, and their brains aren’t fully developed and wired properly, yet somehow these kids are able to understand the context in which the violence is being portrayed? It’s a miracle!

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    Vinzent ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    So does this mean that the Bible creates killers? Well the news is fuul of accounts where bible zealots went on a killing spree so I guess JT and the NIMF would have to say “yes it does”.
    But we in the videogame community have more than two orbitting brain cells and are well aware that these bible zealots were mentally screwed to begin with. Using the bible, or a videogame, as a justification for killing is always a symptom of a distressed mind, not a cause.

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    illspirit ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @Pixelantes Anonymous-

    “I’d LOVE to see the Christian moralists attacking video games based on the SAME type of evidence explain this. I’d love to see them argue themselves into a corner.”

    Newsflash: This study was done by “Christian moralists!” BYU is owned and operated by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. But don’t let things like facts get in the way of your religion bashing…


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    Berg ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    This almost sounds more like a satirical study to make fun of similar video game studies.
    Now all we need to do is wait for the next school shooting, and make sure to report that a bible was found in the kids house.
    Then they can just stop the investigation, as clearly the kid killed people because of all the bible reading he did.
    Anyone up for the media-whore anti-bible Miami lawyer role?

    And you guys who mentioned Samuel L. Jackson in Pulp Fiction, don’t forget the bible quoting sniper in Saving Private Ryan.

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    Pixelantes Anonymous ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Dear illspirit (what a fitting name, really),

    Dude, you seem a little thin skinned, but don’t let the clue fly over your head while getting all defensive over nothing.

    If you wish, I could do some REAL religion (you could even suggest the religion to bash…how about Taoism?) bashing, but since that wasn’t really the point in the first place, why bother, you wouldn’t get it even then.

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    GoodRobotUs ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    Those were my thoughts also, though I’m not certain it was intended as a satirical study, more as a look into the very large impact that religion has on the world, both to the benefit and defecit of people.

    I suppose where I stand is..

    Do I believe in God : Yes
    Do I believe in Evolution : Yes
    Do I believe in the Bible : No. No God is small enough to fit in a book.

    So I don’t class myself as Christian, but I do count myself as Religious, I just don’t worrying about fairy tales or tracing Gods’ family tree etc, it’s always when you add the ‘human factor’ that religion gets dangerous.

    I’m pretty sure we didn’t evolve complex brains because God intended us to not use it and simply go by what was in a 2000-4000 year old book, written by people with a concept of the world which is now 2000-4000 years old.

    Anyway, back on the subject, yes, I think this study was intended as serious, but, quite frankly, anyone who cannot see the irony in the situation must have fried frontal lobes 😉

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    Davian says:

    Freaking Bible thumpers pushing their “Holy” porn on children.

    Please, won’t someone think of the children!!!! Stop them from reading this awful book.

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    gameclucks says:

    Consider this… there are some things in the Bible that would be in contrast to the wording of some of the anti-game bills:

    Depictions of extreme violence directed at a human being: Read those chapters about the crucifixion again, about nails through the hands and being poked in the lungs with spears.

    Unrealistic depictions of violence and the consequences of violence: An apostle cuts off a roman’s ear and the J-man magically re-attaches it as if it was never severed… Miracle? I call it a health pack. But I do usually play the medic/healer class.

    Unrealistic depictions of death and the consequences of death: It took him 3 days, but Jesus respawned! Totally unrealistic!

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    sidescroller says:

    As an LDS college student and gamer, I’d like to high-five the guys who did this study.

    I’m a complete an utter pacifist, I’ve never fought back in a fight, and I go out of my way to resolve conflicts, even when some would say it’s none of my business, and I try to live my life as in harmony with my religious beliefs as possible.

    I also love first-person shooters, blowing up cars and capping zombies as much as the next gamer, and I’ve been playing games my whole life. So it always bothers me when these studies pop up telling me that after an hour of playing Burnout online, I’m statistically going to start driving down the wrong side of the highway and drift into a pole.

    I’m not an idiot. I know what a gun can do, I know that there’s no reset button to life, and if I snap and start shooting my classmates, there was a lot more messed up about my life than playing DOOM.

    So, yeah, Kudos you crazy Mormon psychologists. I know exactly whats contained in the referenced scriptures, and I completely understand the point of the study. It’s not the violence, it’s the context. If you plop a person into a room and show them a three-minute montage of people’s heads exploding, then, yes, they’re going to get agitated. It doesn’t matter if the media it comes from (be it a video game or religious scripture), without knowing more about the story, it’s just violence. This can be extended to explain why it is that violent people like violent entertainment.

    Basically, if a boy grows up in a home with abusive parents, gets made fun of at school, and knows only anger and frustration, then, yes, violent media has a negative effect on him. But that’s because all they know is violence. They’re one-sided, and they don’t know that there’s anything in the world besides guns and hurting people. Unless they’re also exposed to the opposites in life (caring, compassion, charity), then the world to them is nothing but a stupid hole for people to suffer and die. Of course they’re going to go nuts and start killing people.

    At least… that’s just my opinion.

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    Brer says:

    Spamfilter ate my last post. Hopefully it’ll be reinstated, but basically I was pointing out (which lots of links, which I suppose is what the spam-filter didn’t like) is that while I find -this- study unimpressive, we have a surprising amount of anecdotal and what you might call epidemiological data suggesting that religion can be a contributing factor to and sometimes the sole cause of real-world violent behaviour in humans.

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    AnonAmbientLight says:

    HOLY SHIT!!! Biblical scriptures has negative influences on people? Wow, i had NOOOOOO CLUE. I mean, what do terroist base their actions off of? Couldnt be the koran? What about the crusades. Couldnt have been the pope. Not at all!

    I cant believe it took people this long to figure it out. Add to the hundreds of dollars they must have spent to be able to do this, when all they had to do was just look at the news…..


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    Thefremen says:

    From Wikipedia:

    “This is, in fact, not an actual passage from the Bible, but a collage of several passages. Ezekiel 25:17 in the King James Version reads:

    And I will execute great vengeance upon thee with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them”

    You’re right though, the whole quote is from a Sonny Chiba movie.

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    illspirit ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Back @ Pixelantes Anonymous-

    Defensive? Thin skinned? Hmmm, well, last I checked, I was an atheist with the name of a demon tattooed quite visibly on my arm in 4cm tall letters. As such, I’m not quite sure what I have to be “defensive” about. But thanks for playing at any rate. I’m sure the troll attempt of saying the LDS isn’t a “REAL” religion will make Jack Thompson smile smugly while you prove his point that we’re all hateful sociopaths…

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    Brer says:

    Ignore him. You’ll note the inability to make a single substantive rhetorical point in the original post, relying instead on insults? Don’t feed the Trolls, ladies and gentlemen.

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    Jotun says:

    Jack Thompson behaves like the Al Qaeda group, forces people to believe and bow down to his God, he got some nerve!

    To AnonAmbientLight,

    Religions does have negative influences on crazy people (Fundies and terrorists) and good influence on peaceful people. It depends on how you use the Bible, and of course it has it’s both good and bad verses.

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    GoodRobotUs ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    GhaleonQ, you’re right, people having opinions, for better or worse, is a terrible thing. We should all just shut up and let politicians make all the decision in this Democracy.

    Oh yes, of course, that’s a Dictatorship when you do that….

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    monte' ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    oh yes, because gamers are just braindead kids who play games all day and do nothing else; no life what-so-ever beyond games. They don’t have relgious beliefs or political opinions, or ever keep up to date with the world around them like normal poeple do. When a gamer talks about anything like religion, theology, of politics, they MUST be speaking complete and ignorant BS =/


    What distinction is there to make? The study isn’t just refering to books in generally, the study is specifically talking about the bible. If the study was on books in general, then ya, politicans could make a distinction between books and the bible, but the study is for the bible… in no way could they bring up this study and not mention the bible

    heh, technically, since a big part of the study is that it’s not just about the violence in the bible, but the concept that God condones the violence, it could sooner be switch in the opposite direction, trying to censoring the bible, without touching any other books.

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    GoodRobotUs ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Terrorism basically involves using the threat of destruction or death to attain a goal. I doubt people were in fear of their lives when these things went off, indeed, most reports say everyone found it funny.

    Thing is, as stated earlier, Linden Labs make their own controversy, it certainly served them well financially.

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    Strum says:

    Violence anywhere, games, movies, and even the bible desensitize people. This is a common enough experience everyone has. This study just shows that no matter where you see violence, the more you see and read it, the more likely you are to consider violence as a practical solution to certain problems.

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    Megs says:

    ok, see this study is already skewed, half of the students are from one place, that is not going to give you an accurate sample, here’s my other question…. is that the only information that they had? If that’s all someone knows, or is lead to know about scripture, you are skewing your results again and where’s the control group? Some study huh?

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    BabyLaRue63 says:

    ……Another point of it all no one wants to believe that the bible does this…..and if you argue and say that the bible doesnt… are also saying that all the video game precidents are incorrent so all politions out there that support video game sould read this(if there are any :'(


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    Terminator44 says:

    I would REALLY like to know how they measured agression in this study. It sounds an awful lot like the half-assed video game agression studies we hate so much. The fact that it compares itself with these kind of studies makes this very likely.

    Now, I do think that violence potrayed in the Bible is just as bad as anything you might find in a violent video game. However, we should not stoop to the level of anti-game politicians and embrace this study as anything definitive or conclusive.

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    Josh Miller says:

    The key there is the second-to-last quoted passage. If folks aren’t grounded in context (read: reality) they’re likely to take things to extremes that aren’t sanctioned by the material itself. This should support what we’ve been saying about video games all along; not bad in themselves, they can sometimes be twisted or distorted when in the wrong hands. But the game (or scripture) itself isn’t what leads to a distorted sense of reality.

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    GoodRobotUs ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    So, basically, precisely like the tests done on Video Games.

    Why do I get the feeling this was test was done to prove a point, and it’s doing so very well.

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    Terminator44 says:


    Gee, that sounds awfully familiar. Another thing I found interesting is that most of the participants are college students that have at least some belief in God. That just proves to me this study is no different from the video game ones we tear into and the ones at which we get mad at when politicians use them to justify unconstitutional legislation.

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    The gaming Dutch ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I agree with Zachary,

    it’s more of a reaction time test than an agression test. I’s competetive too.

    I think the “agression” scores would even start to go up if you just let the test subjects play the “sound blast” game a few times in a row.

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    Jabrwock ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    You know, I really think they should compare this to the noise blast usage of people reading fluffy bunny, or watching Barney…

    These studies have no control group to compare to…

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    E. Zachary Knight ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Thanks GP for telling me how they measured the aggression rate in a person after playing a game. So they have these people play a game where they have to be the first to push buttons inorder to kill the other players/NPCs. Then they put them in a contest to push a button the fastest to measure the aggression. Sounds like training people to fail a test to me.

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    -Jes- says:

    I just have this weird feeling that the reason for certain people being agressionately stimulated by the bible is because they BELIEVE in what’s written in it.

    But that’s just me.

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    Jatone says:

    Lmao, I agree another half assed study however it is amusing to say the least. This has to be the most amusing article I’ve read in awhile, kudos on finding it GP.

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    Shoehorn O'Plenty ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    It’s great how this has no negative connotations for video games. If you go along with the “Studies have shown..” route, you must also blame the Bible just as much as video games (something which any politician would be extremely loathe to do). If you discount the Bible study, you must also discount the video game study. End result, you either alienate yourself from supporters, or you dont have a leg to stand on when trying to legislate games for this reason.

    A certain anti-game activist has said that his favourite story is that of David and Goliath (in which a man is murdered by having his skull cracked). Now there is evidence to suggest that his favourite story has the exact same effect as what he despises? Mmmm, that’s some delicious irony.

    I wonder how the Bible would look with a nice big ESRB rating sticker on it’s cover. The back would covered with those warning symbols! New ones might have to be invented in some cases.

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    The gaming Dutch ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I always considered it ironic when peaple talk about the crusade against violent videogames and such.

    i mean, if you consider that the crusades where one of the most violent bible related massacres ever…

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    ~the1jeffy says:

    ” … And you will know my name is the Lord! When I lay my vengence upon thee … “

    Anyway, another psuedo study, but as Monte mentioned, one that directly parallels video game, movie, violent media studies. To almost a letter, if I infer from the article linked correctly.

    You know the ones are misused by pollies, NIMF, etc. And the one horribly abused and contorted by Thompson’s ilk.

    Any way pseudo-science is pseudo-science. Bleech.

    Any links to the study itself, Dennis, anyone?

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    Thefremen says:

    Well now we know that Samuel Jackson’s character in Pulp Fiction couldn’t help himself, he just became a violent person after reciting bible passages.

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    monte' ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    true, but what we can do is use this research as a counter to the violent game research… essentionally, anyone who chooses to embrace the video game studies can have these studies shoved down their throat, but those who choose not to disregard such studies can ignore both. bascially its a situation where we point out that if you say A is true then you MUST also except B is true by extention… B can not be excepted without A.

    For the sake of discussion, the way we can use such studies is like:
    Anti-game critic- well the so-and-so studies prove games are harmful

    Gamers- well, putting aside the value of such studies, similar studies studies show that the bible has the same effect on peopel and is therefore just as bad

    Anti-game- err… i… those studies are no good

    Gamers- But these studies are done the same way as the studies you quoted, if the bible study is no good then the video game study is no good by extention…

    Anti-gamer-…. i err… that is…umm..

    Bascially, the anti game critics are forced into a situation where they must either say the video game studies are flawed (atleast don’t prove what the anti0gamer claims), or that the bible is has similar violent effects on poeple as video games… ofcourse they will probably end up going with option 3, which is to make up a lot of BS, to make the distinction that completly ignores all facts… however, the plus side is that when it comes to courts, judges do not listen to the BS and will except one of the two first options as the truth; more then like the first option where both studies are flawed/not proof of anything serious worth breaking free speech over

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    AgonThalia says:

    One of the interesting aspects that I havent seen discussed is that the scriptures (regardless of religious affiliation) are seen as authoritive, divinely inspired and as a code of morals that influence behavior.

    If religious scriptures are seen as authoritative, and people believe in them to be an example of how to act, that could be the link between behavior and input.

    Video Games however, are not seen as authoritative, divine or examples of good behavior. Games are seen more as a diversion, as fun, as a job, as a supplement… not as divinely inspired authoritative text.

    I think that’s the key issue and differentiation between video games and scripture.

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    Thad says:

    I’m reminded of a Mark Twain quote — but apparently it’s an obscure one, because I can’t seem to find it.

    In short, in response to the suggestion that his books weren’t suitable for children, Twain responded with something along the lines of “I appreciate that you have brought this to my attention. My books are not intended for children, and in fact I don’t believe children should read at all. I believe I was scarred for life as a child when my parents forced me to read the Bible every night.”

    That’s a very inelegant paraphrase, but I think I’ve at least got the idea right.

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    Wardo says:

    Agreed chuma, however the average person doesn’t have the attention span for extensive studies that show real facts. We want it NOW NOW NOW… and it can’t be complicated. At least, that’s what politicians lead me to believe. *sigh*

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    VioletSon says:

    Oh-oh. I forsee this study changing the way the violent games argument plays out, but I don’t predict that the discourse will be any more productive or substantive on either side. Studies don’t motivate anti-game champions, their own sense of what is harmful does. Same goes for most pro-gamers. Studies are just talking points for the debate, accepted or disregarded according to what each side knows is “really true.”

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    The gaming Dutch ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    All of these studies are flawed by one simple fact:

    We as a species ar fundametally violent, adults and children included.

    This is not per definition a “bad” thing, it helped us to survive and evolve for thousands of years.

    The trick is that most people (and children) can control or learn to control their violent urges.

    So we all have violent impulses, but mostly we don’t act upon them.

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    chuma ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    It amases me people believe these whack-job studies with minimal scientific value but refuse to believe the numerous extensive studies into Global Warming…

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    Ekim1086 says:

    For the love of all that is, who the heck willingly chooses to fund these idiotic studies. We’ve been saying it for a while now here on GP. Any form of media exposure whether it be printed word, audible, or visual can cause unstable people to fly off the edge. Don’t point fingers at specifics (read: Rock, Rap, GTA, Bible, innumerable others) and proudly announce you’ve discovered the cause of all violence since the beginning of time!

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    Robb ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    This study doesn’t sound very scientific, as in the conclusion of the hypothesis sounds illogical. Were they studying religion, violent behavior, or coersion? I think if we criticize the game study, which should criticize this study for the same reasons. I mean, the correlation may exist with external variables with both studies.

    I’m not religious, but I went to a Catholic College that made you take two theology credits. It was approached as philosophy and kind of interesting. My learning included the understanding of how scripture is wrongly considered a plan rather than a history or allegory. The other thing is that violence that God condones in those books are one-time-as-necessary events. Mostly God decides, not people.

    I guess my point is that if people take biblical violence as an “OK” to enact their own violent behavior, that just means they’re rationalizing their own twisted view of reality, and any book, movie, or game would probably serve just as well.

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    Tubatic ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    ::Initiates the Slow Clap::

    “If you accept A then you must accept B”

    Its nice to have bogus studies to throw back at other bogus studies. Glorious.

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    Brokenscope ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    Great politician will now think they have a study that allows them to censor ANY violent material or nay material that they deem violent (Any material they don’t like). Screw the religious implications. A study like this has an affect on all media in the minds of politicians.

    Damnit, I did not need this on a Tuesday.

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    Muetank ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I wonder what JT will say about this study, seeing as he is a christian him self and he’s been using flawd studys like this one for ages. Well, I’m shure we’ll hear some sort of reaction from the anti-game/gamer side soon. Proably they will be saying the same thing we have been saying about their studys. About how many flaws there are in the study, and they needed a larger test group, ect.

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