PTC Gets Behind "Truth in Video Game Ratings" Legislation

February 27, 2007
Watchdog  group the Parents Television Council has taken an active role in video game issues of late.

Earlier this month GamePolitics reported on the PTC's support of video game legislation proposed in the Indiana State Senate. Last week we noted PTC's joint participation with the Campaign for a Commercial-free Childhood in an effort to ban ads for M- and AO-rated games from appearing on buses and trains owned by Denver's mass-transit system.

The PTC has also weighed in on the Truth in Video Game Ratings Act, a bill re-introduced recently by conservative Senator - and 2008 presidential aspirant - Sam Brownback (R-KS).

Of the legislation, a press release attributed to PTC president Tim Winters says:
The (PTC) sides with Senator Brownback on this issue. There is a clear conflict of interest that arises when a video game’s producers and distributors submit segments of their choice to the (ESRB) for review...

Video game distributors should no longer be able to skew ratings in their favor by concealing the material they do not want reviewed...

The PTC applauds Senator Brownback for adding language... to commission a... study to evaluate the current video game rating system, look into instating an independent rating system... and consider the application of a universal ratings system...

The full text of the Brownback bill, S.568, can be seen here. The measure has been referred to the Senate's Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation.

Comments

*Sighs* They just won't stop will they?

@MaskedPixelante

"I think it’s a good thing that the PTC is putting the blame on game developers for hiding the material, rather than putting the blame on the ESRB for not rating the games well enough."

That's the next step. First you assert that game companies hide stuff. Then you blame the ESRB for not finding it, even though they have severe penalties for hidden stuff discovered after release, even if it's accidental.
-- If your wiimote goes snicker-snack, check your wrist-strap...

So a thought policing organization under guise of protecting children is backing legislation that takes the U.S. one step closer to Federally mandated censorship?

Color me not suprised. Good to know, though, GP. Keep your enemies closer and all that.

But I would have been shocked to find out the the King Kooks at the PTC didn't support this POS legislature. In fact, I am sort-of gald about it, because most reasonable parents that I know laugh at the PTC.

So.. are they going to eminent domain all ESRB property when they make an arbitrary decision that it should replace it with a federally run ratings board? Hey if you get away with 1 unconstitutional thing, why not do 2 unconstitutional things.

"The sign of a failing democracy is when it fails to allow a free and independent media to its people." What is this world coming to eh?

honestly, I think it's a good thing that the PTC is putting the blame on game developers for hiding the material, rather than putting the blame on the ESRB for not rating the games well enough.

Now of course, I don't mean what the PTC is saying is right, after all, not all game developers hide their content.

Section five sure sounds like a violation of the First Amendment. Doesn't The First Amendment state that the government will not be able to control or censor the media. That is what it says to me. This proposal would shut down the ESRB because its vaige definitions are not met and thus they will establish a government controled organization to "rate" media.

I don't think that will fly.

The Parent Trash Cult has no credibility in this issue or any issue for that matter.

This pile of crap bill will be struck down as unconstitutional.

The PTC should find something else better to do with their time and energy.

I should also point out that Brownback was(I don't know if that moron still is) a member of the PTC's so-called "celebrity advisory panel"(so is/was Lieberman).

@Terminator44

I believe this is what you were after?

Rassafrackin'...we need a preview button on here.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/10/01

"look into instating an independent rating system… and consider the application of a universal ratings system…"

In other words, try to establish a federally managed organization to take over the whole process. Then we'll get FCC-style knee-jerk behavior.

Penny Arcade hit the the proverbial nail on the head with this issue. For those of you who missed the comic about it (it's fairly recent), you'll have to find it yourself. My kingdom for the ability to use HTML again.

Again the PTC is trying to influence an issue they shouldn't have anything to do with.

... Concealing?


Well, the paranoia-levels at the PTC have (yet) again shown themselves to be at a full 100%!

Which by itself isn't anything new.

Why is there no link for this press release? Where did it come from?

This is all about puritiannical values-that's how backwards people are in this country. Endless violence is okay, but the instance any sexual items are discussed then all the freaks come out of the American societal woodwork.

It makes no sense, but this country has a major problem with the topic of human sexuality. Unfortunately, the problem won't likely be corrected anytime soon.

You know the true irony of this?

They same that the game rating system is flawed by using videos rather than playing the game, and yet fail to realise that this MUST also mean that the game lawmaking procedure is also flawed for precisely the same reason, since these laws only ever have accompanying video, they never ask people to play the actual game.

Hippocrisy much?

In addition, if I may, I doubt they really care what it is as long as they get some attention.

Although, yeah, they have a point. I mean, look at Nintendo. They stuff their games full of sex and then don't mention it to the ESRB. Like, umm...Super Smash Bros, oh yeah, a LOT of sexual content in that. Yoshi-on-Pikachu action; I was scarred for life.

Oh, the Sims games, oh my god. It promotes prostitution! And there was a lot more violence in Pikmin that you didn't see! It was like it was made by R*!

Given PTC's background, wouldn't they be losing credibility by poking their nose into something outside their itinerary?

I'm not soo sure if we should be surprised with this incident - it feels like a lof of this legislation is crawling out of the woodwork now that the 2008 presidential race is starting up.

"The downside is that Spore would never get rated, since it generates new content as it goes along, the good news is that Brownback might actually learn something about computers."

It would suit them perfectly, since Spore has evolution, and according to people who think like the PTC, evolution is a farce

This is just coming from an ignorant Brit, but what is the Parents "Television" Council doing weighing in on games?

Worse, it is based on content of one game that NO TEST would have found, at least, as far as I know nothing in these laws are saying that the games must be played through in their entirely FAIRLY, then again with 'In Game' cheats, and then once again with a 3rd party cheat device.

Yes, there is the 2nd clause, but would that REALLY change the rating if it doesn't blow out of proportion later? "We were going to add a minigame that gives a brief sexual scene, but we decided against it and have not even programed in the naked skins yet so there is no nudity."

So yea, one game, one problem, and the law does nothing to actually address it. (Unless you think you would put an AO rating on the game for 'Fully clothed, accessible only by intentional hacking' program...)

@Michael James Nock
Because at the time television was the big "evil" that our children need to be "protected" from. Now they appear to have expanded their scope to the next big "evil," video games.

Also, video games are commonly played on televisions. That may be one of their ways to justify it. =)

Thing about the PTC is that they have to keep jumping up and down and shouting 'look at us' otherwise everyone ignores them for the tyranic group of control freaks they are.

Just a thought, but maybe Brownback could demonstrate what he means by reviewing 'Spore'? On the condition he doesn't run for office again until he's found every possible outcome from a procedurally generated game. The downside is that Spore would never get rated, since it generates new content as it goes along, the good news is that Brownback might actually learn something about computers.

Hank the Tank beat me to it. Yeah, I really love how all of this is brought on by ONE GAME, JUST ONE GAME. There hasn't been a big history of game publishers lying about their content to the ESRB.

Give me 5 examples, and then I might believe you PTC.

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Profit

Once again the PTC proves why it should be hated.

1. biased to the point that if they began publishing articles in "credible" newspapers, they'd immediately turn them into tabloids

2. apparent attempt at making the esrb look like they are only shown certain parts of a game when in fact they are specifically required to show the most gruesome and violent parts

3. They claim developers are trying to skew the footage for certain ratings (come on now, really)

4. They are applauding a obviously unconstitutional bill.

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