John Edwards Second Life Campaign HQ Vandalized

According to a post on presidential candidate John Edwards’ official blog, the Democrat’s Second Life campaign headquarters was trashed, apparently by Republican gamers:

Shortly before midnight (CST) on Monday, February 26, a group of republican Second Life users, some sporting “Bush ’08” tags, vandalized the John Edwards Second Life HQ.  They plastered the area with Marxist/Lenninist posters and slogans, a feces spewing obsenity, and a photoshopped picture of John in blackface, all the while harrassing visitors with right-wing nonsense and obsenity-laden abuse of Democrats in general and John in particular.

The author of the blog post, identified only as robinrising, was apparently a witness to the incident and provided screen shots and chat logs to SL publisher Linden Lab for possible disciplinary action.

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  1. 0
    Jonn says:

    Dirty tricks are running rife in both parties by canidates against canidates. Not only by trashing offices but trashing characters. Shame!
    For example:

    Its time Obama put Hillary and Bill Clinton in their place. Hillary claims 35 years of experience. Her’s and many others 35 years experience in gov’t is what has brought America to its knees. Instead of experience I call that malfeasance. Hillary needs to apologize to and seek forgivness from Obama and the American people. Then she should withdraw from the race and join Monica Lewinsky, and her philandering,lying,immoral husband, Bill, who she apparently can’t satisfy sexually

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    Cindy says:

    As somone who plays in SL I can tell you there are far more liberals there than conservatives. Also, if you spent some amount of time there you would know it’s mostly anarchist types who like to engage in griefing so get a clue people.

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    Zoness says:

    It’s a game and it’s sad to see people act stupid over it. It could be Democrats pretending to be republicans because I didn’t think Republicans played SL or used the internet for fun at all. But who knows, attacking someone you support like that doesn’t make much sense.

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    […] Second Life’s creators, Linden Labs, were compelled by the incident to issue a middle-of-the-road response (”At Linden Lab we do the utmost to ensure the protection of creative expression, within certain bounds. Ultimately, instances in which residents engage in vandalism will have to be taken on a case by case basis according to our terms of service.”) And Second Life boosters had already been sharing their tips for dealing with griefers. But perhaps the best summation came from a comment at the Game Politics site. […]

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    J. Miller says:

    It’s always wrong to do this kind of thing, no matter where you fall on the political spectrum.

    That having been said, it would be nice to see those who condemn this attack set aside their politics long enough to condemn SL attacks against locations containing a conservative viewpoint.

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    Kajex ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    Just because you can hide behind a mask of anonymity doesn’t hide the fact that you’re being childish and stupid. Especially if you use a credit card to purchase in-game currency or premium accounts. Then the people who matter WILL know who you are.

    Besides, it’s not as if acting like a dumbass is going to make us like Republicans or vote for Bush in’08- nevermind that he’s already a lame duck prez and couldn’t do what FDR did.

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    Terminator44 says:

    @J. Miller

    “That having been said, it would be nice to see those who condemn this attack set aside their politics long enough to condemn SL attacks against locations containing a conservative viewpoint.”

    Yes, I wonder what people would say if some leftists plastered a Republican HQ in SL with pictures of say, Hitler. It’s hardly a fair comparison for everybody who associates themselves with the party, just as much as it goes for Lenin and Democrats.

    Just because we might agree with it doesn’t make it okay.

  8. 0
    Yuki says:

    Ok, this is uncalled for. Like him or not, this is improper and rude behavior, and I would expect better from the membes of second life. Thats why I don’t play in that world. To many jerks running loose.

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    Sean Wheeler says:

    I think its awesome that someone did this. Edwards set up his campaign headquarters to reach a wider audience. That audience responded. It’s just a game people, relax. I hope that the perpetrators are not punished. They should be lauded for their democratic expression of speech.

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    E. Zachary Knight ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Maybe someone should tell these people that Bush cannot run for president in ’08. Its unconstitutional. Additionally, their actions are childish and ignorant. It is people like these that help in the desision to become an independant.

    My message to these people “Grow Up.”

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    Freekill says:

    I think it’s pretty funny…

    Don’t get that confused with political standing though. It’s just funny that politicians are acting like those annoying Counter Strike players who won’t stop posting pictures everywhere on the map.

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    Jabrwock ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    You know what I think this means? That people are scared Edwards has a chance. If he was a nobody, this wouldn’t have happened.

    Then again, it may be because he’s the ONLY candidate to have an SL presence…

    Still, while it was in bad taste, it didn’t surprise me. SL protests are… unique… I don’t think retaliation is in order though, because that would be sinking to their level of childishness…

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    Pixelantes Anonymous ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    You know, if you want to have a political protest, do it the right way. DOing it this way only shows how much of an idiot you are.

    Anyway, I don’t think this had anything to do with political protesting. To me it seems like launching some sort of juvenile attack on a high profile event or location is guaranteed to give the perp his 15 minutes of fame. Sad really when you think about it.

    I’m just waiting for the first one that has clear profit making goal behind it (book deal, promoting something or generating ad revenue).

    I think Linden Labs should address the issue before it gets really out of hand.

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    William Hart ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    These weren’t Republicans this was most likely done by Liberal Democrat’s under the intention to make everyone think all Republicans are racist and bigoted. Which is far from the truth since Democrat’s seceded from the Union when a Republican President was elected because of fear they would take away southern Democrat’s god given (They feel the same with abortion go figure) right of slavery. Not to mention the Democrats led the Congress in trying to hold on and fight for Segregation .

    I think most people forget the only current member who is still serving in congress to have been an active Klansman Senator Robert Byrd, a Democrat who just was added again in a leadership role in the Senate which makes him 3rd in line for the Presidency.

    All Republicans know Bush is not going to be running in 08, this was clearly mockery and Edward’s is taking advantage of it.

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    Weatherlight ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    “possible disciplinary action”

    ITS A GAME PEOPLE…. GET OVER IT. I dont like what they did, but thats no reason to cry over it. I thought that was the point of games, because it allows people to act out without actualy having to do it.

    Thats why I play on a CSS server that has a strict no porn, and maturity policies.

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    Wolf ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    That doesn’t really mean anything. They could easily be republican, democrat, green, independent, whatever. Hell, this might not even necessarily express their political views. Just because they did something like that in a game does not mean they do not support what they are advocating. On the other hand, they could have just did so for the hell of it.

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    Jabrwock ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    Some of the stuff they did might have violated SL’s TOS… I’m not sure.

    @William Hart

    Yes, it’s all a democrat conspiracy to make the republicans look bad. They don’t need Rush Limbagh’s help at all. 😉

  18. 0
    SlyFox says:

    @William Hart

    My… that sounds a bit like… propaganda.
    And you cannot tell who is what from behind a keyboard, through circiuts, through the internet, and from who knows how far away. Not even if you witnessed it yourself in SL. In the end, those who did it could be democratic, republican, or some bored group of people in Russia, Panama, Burma, etc. Try not to get so defensive when someone says something against your favored side.

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    Vladimir ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    To the “It’s just a game” people: You’re right, to an extent. It is a game, but why should vulgar and just plain abusive behavior be seen as equally acceptable as regular gameplay? Other people are trying to enjoy the game, too, especially since the “game” has become much, much more with all the media attention it’s been getting. One person’s “fun” can ruin another’s experience.

    Think about it like this: You’re playing a board game, and one of your friends watching the game decides to take a dump on the board. Sure, it’s not a “big” deal, but it is incredibly rude and abhorrent behavior.

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    VioletSon says:

    @William Hart

    Are you really serious? Granted, what you say isn’t impossible (and others’ suspicion that this was apolitical attention-seeking seems well within the realm of possibility), but do you REALLY believe that the Republican party doesn’t contain a fair percentage of ne’er-do-wells? That seems willfully ignorant. Any large group – political, religious, whatever – will have barnacles.

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    gameclucks says:

    This is less about politics and more about griefing the SL noobs.

    It’s the online community’s way of saying, “welcome to the neighborhood, we don’t want your poli-corporate garbage here.”

    I expect the same sort of thing would happen if Guiliani set up a virtual office.

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    Automancer ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    This is pretty interesting to say the least, of course, it’s also pretty childish and stupid, but it’s interesting what direction these kinds of protests can take when given and environment where anything is possible. However, Bush in ’08 stickers are stupid, Bush cannot run again because it’s unconstitiutional, just like E. Zachary Knight said. Entertaining, but pathetic.


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    Gary says:

    The Repubs aren’t going to find the WMD or Bin Laden in Edward’s virtual campaign HQ (oddly Repubs often STILL mix Bin Laden up with Iraq, thanks to Bush’s misinformation campaign).

    Maybe they should be focusing their attention on the mess their party put this country (and the rest of the world in). Its time work in concert to get us out of Vietraq and start focusing on building our own nation rather than a third world tribal backwater that prefers to live in the stone age.

    Of course, we could continue on this course and mold our own country into an anti-science fundamentalist backwater too. 32 year lifespan anyone?

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    Rick says:

    @Sean Wheeler

    You’ve obviously never been in Second Life before. This isn’t a game, it’s a community for people to come together and chat, share things, etc. There is no set objective, thus it’s not a game and yes, what these people did violates the TOS with SL. They do deserve to be punished because the proper way for them to express themselves is to create their own area and post those things there, not to go around and destroy someone else’s creation. It just ruins the whole SL experience for everyone.

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    Linda Crawford says:

    Republicans who do that type of thing remind me of the Nazi brownshirts who stopped all free speech.
    They are today’s brownshirts and what is so funny is that they think they are anti-communist. lol
    They don’t know the difference between communism, Russian style, and Socialism Sweadish style or watered down socialism Canadian style. THey also don’t know that the Russians corrupted communism and made it into despotic totalitarianism.
    And Fascism is the combination of corporations and the state. I guess they think that is good. Well Hitler’s Germany and Musolinni’s Italy are examples of that type of despotism. They may think that is good until they have it crammed down their throats as the Bush administration is trying very hard to do small piece by piece.
    I am sure the people who trashed the site are “good christians,” who believe in an angry hate filled Christ.

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    tommy says:

    actually jimbob, jeb already said he is not running in ’08. furthermore, the bush ’08 people are probably just assuming george w. will overlook the part of the constitution limiting his term to 8 years, just like he has overlooked the rest of the constitution (except for that bit about not infringing on the right to bear arms)…

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    Jabrwock ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    “It’s the online community’s way of saying, ‘welcome to the neighborhood, we don’t want your poli-corporate garbage here.'”

    Then why do it under the facade of Bush ’08 supporters? Wouldn’t that be hypocritical? “We don’t want your poli-corporate garbage here, but we’re cool with protesting it while spouting poli-corporate garbage…”

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    buddhistMonkey says:

    @William Hart sez: “Not to mention the Democrats led the Congress in trying to hold on and fight for Segregation.”

    Learn some history, WIlliam. Those racist Southern Democrats you mentioned who fought against segregation ended up leaving the Democratic Party en masse, and joined the Republicans, where they’ve been ever since. Ever heard of Strom Thurmond, who ran for President on an anti-segregation platform? He switched parties and became a Republican in 1964, and took the bulk of the racist Democrats with him.

    What this roving band of Republican thugs did to Edwards’ Second Life headquarters, including the blackface posters, is so typical of the right’s racism. These are the some troglodytes who play games like “Hunt the Illegal Alien,” and who offer “Whites Only” scholarships. One would hope that the few non-racists who probably exist in the Republican Party denounce this unprovoked attack on John Edwards.

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    Darble Daisy says:

    @William Hart

    Remember when LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and suddenly Southern Democrats changed their affiliation to the Republican Party?

    Sorry for embarrassing you in public like this.

  31. 0
    finaleve ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Soon they will hire people to Police such incidents as this.

    …well this is suppose to immitate life, right? Just have them hire a few tech guys and have them handle gritty situations like this. Give them Adminship and superiority so they can play god.

  32. 0
    MrKenyon ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Wow, we start talking partisan politics all of a sudden, and people from each side start going for each other’s throats. Settle down, people.

    Considering the level of maturity, or lack thereof, involved in this vandalism, odds are this was just some kids being smartasses, not a deliberate Republican ambush, or tin-foil-hat-related Liberal conspiracy. Besides, I’m sure it took a whopping, what, 5 minutes to clean up in the game?

  33. 0
    Cloud7 says:

    Sigh, while it’s possible these were not Republics’, I seem to notice this type of behavior is quite common by the 30% of people in the US still attaching themselves to Bush Jr. One needs to look no further than Rush, Malkin, Coulter or any other wacko right wing leader & their followers for behavior of just this nature. Makes me ashamed I ever registered as a Republic voter. Thankfully I came to my senses years ago and am now an avowed Independant. With behavior like this going on it’s unlikely I’ll ever vote for anyone in that party for a long, long time.

  34. 0
    Joe Bourrie says:

    “Considering the level of maturity, or lack thereof, involved in this vandalism, odds are this was just some kids being smartasses”

    Exactly what I was thinking.

    Linden Labs is playing off of all this press now, but will people stop using SL for serious issues (like public relations) over the fear of flying penis attacks? I kind of hope so, Linden Labs are a bunch of media whores, and the media just keeps biting. After all, “Feces Spewing Obscenity Attacks Democratic HQ” is such a better headline than “Police Seek Giggling Bandits” (top headline, CNN U.S. news)

    Or, possibly, the democrats HOPED something like this happens so that they get the free publicity as well. No better way to make your competitors look bad than to lure the retards out to do it for you. Really, does this do more damage to Edwards or to the republican party?

  35. 0
    mikeky says:

    just how stupid are we? it’s not GOOD ENOUGH that we fight all our stupid battles in REAL LIFE. we now have to take them to SECOND LIFE. what the fuck is going on here? why is this even a story? people playing on computers and fighting amongst themselves? little kids in a sandbox. a pox on all of them.

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    willis says:

    I totally disagree that this was a bunch of kids being smart asses.

    Smart ass kids know nothing about politics and couldn’t tell you the difference between Bush and Edwards. Most think obama is osama.

    These are typical, loser-republican adults, who are so powerless in their real life, there only sence of control is in a video game. they lost the election and have no power. LOSERS!

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    noman says:

    The key is the two pics they chose. Both of these sound familiar to two images on another site I visit and have a habit of doing this. If it is who I think it is, they didit for kicks and giggles.

  38. 0
    Jacob says:

    Uh, isn’t this a little ridiculous? Who cares. It’s a stupid virtual website world with no real life significance. I can’t believe people are actually upset by this, and I’m a democrat.

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    buddhistMonkey says:

    Joe Bourrie sez: “Really, does this do more damage to Edwards or to the republican party?”

    Neither. First, this actually makes Edwards look stronger, since the Republicans are so obviously threatened by his candidacy. Second, this doesn’t affect the Republican Party at all, since everyone already equates racism with the Republicans. The GOP embraces its racism, which is why Nixon’s “Southern Strategy” is still in play to this day.

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    gameclucks says:

    @ Jabr

    “Then why do it under the facade of Bush ‘08 supporters? Wouldn’t that be hypocritical? “

    Because that’s what’s going to push the buttons and raise the ire of the Edwards camp the most.

    I’m sure at least a few of the participants were of the ‘rabid republican’ breed, but my guess is that most of them just wanted to shake up the latest event in the manner that would generate the most controversy and coverage. Just like green phallic spam attacks on Ashne Cheung’s latest online press conference, or Grey Goo attacks on a busy holiday weekend.

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    eShirl says:

    Also, from what I understand this wasn’t even an official John Edwards campaign site, just a site put up by one of the SL residents who supports him for president. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, of course.

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    Pixelantes Anonymous ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    You’re thinking way too small about this. Conspiracies are ALWAYS big. Therefore you should think big too.

    I think it was Al Qaeda. I mean, come’on! They’re terrorists already.

    They did it to trying to deflect the blame on republicans, so that the American people would vote for Democrats, therefore emboldening The Enemy (r) ™ (c). Actually, now that I think about it…I KNOW it was Dick Cheney trying to blame it on Al Qaeda trying to blame it on the Republicans.

    Wait, no, that’s not right.

    It was the Democrats trying to blame it on Dick Cheney trying to blame it on Al Qaeda trying to blame it on the Republicans. Dude, this is it! No…wait. Still not quite big enough. I’ve got even better one.

    It was Karl Rove drafting strategy for the 2008 elections trying to blame it on Democrats trying to blame it on Dick Cheney trying to blame it on Al Qaeda trying to blame it on the Republicans. Dude! Yea! This is it! IT IS A NEO-CON RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY AFTER ALL! F*** yea!

    Or does everyone just WANT us to believe that??? The mind boggles.

    Shiny side out…

  43. 0
    eShirl says:

    Pictures of tub-girl, eh? Sounds like the work of the perennial SL griefer group known as w-hat (and under other names as well). They specialize in annoying people in the most offensive, immature ways possible. They’re not a republican or a democratic group, just a group that exists for the entertainment of aggravating people they think take themselves too seriously. Some of them claim what they do is performance art.

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    Anonamys says:


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    Jabrwock ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    “Just like green phallic spam attacks on Ashne Cheung’s latest online press conference, or Grey Goo attacks on a busy holiday weekend.”

    Neither of which had logos attached to try to shift blame to an uninvolved 3rd party… If it was pure vandalism, sure, I’d agree. But they stuck around and specifically bashed Democrat supporters, while blasting out Republican propaganda. If they were merely anti-politician, wouldn’t they be bashing both, instead of denouncing one while seemingly propping up the other?

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    Hannah ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I seriously doubt these folks have any particular political bias, or if they do, it’s not what motivated them here. My guess is that it’s probably just a bunch of griefers from Something Awful or a similar site. The thing is… griefing is pretty much the only way to make Second Life fun if you aren’t a furry or a pedophile or something. Sad but true. However, griefing the furries and pedophiles gets boring after a while, and when attacking a politician gets you media attention in addition to the usual (and highly amusing) internet drama, that’s a pretty strong motive right there. Of course, if you’re going to grief a politician, it only makes sense to pretend that you’re from the opposing side, especially when you’re picking out what graphics to use in the attack…. hence the apparent right-wing bias here.

    And yeah, if anything, these guys probably lean towards the left side of the politican spectrum. If you’re planning on griefing, it makes more sense to target your own side and make the other side look worse in the progress.

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    gameclucks says:

    The way I understand it, the christmas crash started out as a grinch and golden rings, and the penisattack was accompanied by artwork which was bigoted against asians… I think the griefers just look for a theme that will cause the targets the most distress. For example there is a large contingient of SomethingAwful forum-goers that doesn’t care who they offend or ridicule, as long as they get the chance to prove that trying to accomplish anything meaningful in a virtual space is silly and frivolous.

    Just remember, it’s about griefing, not politics, and whatever is going to cause the most outrage. Drumming up the gargantuan rift between our broken 2-party system in this manner is one way to flare up tempers on both sides of the issue, it pisses off everybody at once, except for the extremists, who just use it as yet another opportunity to go for each other’s throats (as if they need the excuse, see: any semi-political blog or news site on the internet)

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    catherine says:

    Republicans are losers. Blackface? They just proved every charge ever laid against them and their party. I hope they get identified in the real world and kicked off there as well.

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    Arch says:

    *yawns* Same old same old, next we’ll be seeing flying you-know-whats and the like.

    Now if Edwards brings this up in a speech or whatever, that I want to know about. If there is a fallout from this, that would be interesting to read about.

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    4thHorseman says:

    # Joe Hoodoo Says:
    March 1st, 2007 at 1:41 pm

    Anyone who says Second Life is ‘’just a game’’ has no idea what they’re talking about.

    Yeah actually it’s a hidey hole for social deviants with no other outlet for their failed existence. kthnx

  51. 0
    independent says:

    How come when someone disrupts a republican event it’s “free speech”, but when someone disrupts a democratic event it’s “racism”? You don’t even know who did it, but clearly it “proves republicans are racists”. Statements like this prove you are an idiot with no ability to use basic logic.

    Democrats all too often hide behind “free speech” to justify their moronic, hate-filled statements, but take regular pleasure in telling those they disagree with that they should not exercise “free speech”.

    Republicans are … well … republicans.

    You have every right to say what you are saying, and I have every right to recognize that you are an idiot for saying it. If people weren’t allowed to exercise their right to free speech, it wouldn’t be so easy to spot the morons. Embrace it.

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    Quinn says:

    Pretty funny to see the conservatives saying, “I don’t think these were Republicans.” They probably had the same reaction when they heard about the phone jamming incident during the ’04 campaign:

    Of course, later we learned that RNC personnel were responsible. Remember, this is the party of Nixon and Rove we’re talking about, they live for dirty tricks.

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    Konstruct says:

    If it was the Something Awful crowd who did this, they would be more than capable of acting like rabid republicans. Its a very talented crowd with some great underground writers, designers, and programmers in their fold. Not exactly the most mature crowd but I could definately see them behind something like this.

    They also have been taking an interest in SL lately. Though they haven’t been on there to make positive contributions. Their main focus is to cause as much chaos as possible to write articles about “alternative” lifestyles of the niche users of the service.

    I personally don’t mind the “attack” as I like the idea of the web being free enough to still contain a little danger like this. It means we still have freedom on the net and it hasn’t been fully controlled.

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    Ghostly ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    It seems that every other week or so, there is another report of vandalism like this at Second Life. I don’t use Second Life, so I’d like to ask a question for those of you that do.

    I am wondering if someone has written about why the “game” is so prone to such attacks? Can you “legally” emote/modify other people’s property or is it that the game does not define well enough where one’s property starts and ends? Or, perhaps, it is just a hack where some vulnerability in the system is used?

    I am curious, from a technical viewpoint, why these issues keep coming up. Any leads would be appreciated.


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    GoodRobotUs ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Sounds to me like Linden Labs want to start asking themselves whether they want their MMO to be an environment where people can explore and experiment or whether people are simply paying a monthly fee to be advertised at.

    It seems to me that the Whole ‘Second Life’ space needs a LOT of reviewing, if you have political opinions being openly represented on Second Life, you ARE going to get your hellraisers as well as your more pacifistic objectors.

    Linden Labs cannot have their cake and eat it, which is essentially what they are trying to do, basically standing in the middle and taking money from both consumer AND retailer, they’ve practically created a 4th type of media which is seperate from ‘Video Games’.

    In the words of Granny Weatherwax, ‘There will be a reckonin”. If they increase ‘Policing’ in their environment then they will be placing restrictions on the freedom of their own paying members, if they don’t then they start to endanger their links with the more commercial side of things.

    It’ll be interesting to see how much longer LL can keep these plates spinning.

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    MrKenyon ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I don’t think the Goons were behind this one. Blackface and tubgirl? Smells of 4chan’s /b/tards to me. All the vandalism is missing is a “FIRIN’ MY LAZOR” or something ending in “-desu”.

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    Yoshiko says:

    God I love all of you. You’re all so not judgmental and don’t think that if you’re part of one party then you behave in a certain way.

    I mean c’mon. OBVIOUSLY if you’re a republican you’re both an idiot AND a loser. Jeez.

    That was sarcasm, by the way, and I am a conservative. Who ever the people responsible for the trashing of the Democrat’s SL HQ are either extremists, immature, or just people dicking around.

    This party-bashing is getting tiresome and pathetic. Making generalizations like the statements I’ve seen from the majority of these comment posters are seething with a bitter taste. You’re stepping on broken glass, I suggest you back off the rude comments about a party as a whole.

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    Wardo says:

    I think the reason the game is so prone to attacks is because there’s really no goal. It’s pretty much a sandbox where you do whatever the hell you want. It’d be similar to what would happen if a room full of people were given a gigantic roll of construction paper, some markers, scissors, and glitter and said, “Okay, now make whatever you want.” Some people enjoy it because it gives them an open forum to pretty much do what they want, others, like me, get bored after about an hour and find the learning curve isn’t worth the effort.

  59. 0

    […] 1st, 2007 · No Comments This post on talks about the vandalization of John Edwards Second Life campaignheadquarters.  First, I’m fascintated that there is such a blog as Game Politics.  I’ll have to add it to the (nascent) blogroll over here at What Is Second Life central HQ.  Second, I’m intrigued that most (all?) of the mainstream presidential candidates are campaigning in SL. […]

  60. 0
    Cherry Brown says:

    What’s next – Cristalnacht? This is the mood that has been set by the current
    administration vis a vis anyone who objects to the principles of the Republican
    Party. Namely, that Democrats are “enemies of the State” and should be stamped out. This behavior is condoned and egged on by the Administration and it’s toadies.
    AND it is disgusting and dangerous to our democratic way of life –more so than
    another Al Quaeda attack. We have a Dictator now after the first. Next attack and we’ll have the Gestapo.

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    Wookiee ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I guessed somthing like this would happen as soon as I heard polititions were setting up shop in MMOs.

    What kind of “feces spewing obcenity” was it?

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    Mike says:

    this is absolutely ridiculous! This sort of behavior shouldn’t be tolerated. I of course am referring to the fact john edwards has spent the time to have a headquarters set up in fucking second life. Who the hell plays this game?

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    Hannah ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I wish I could just assume 2112 was joking/trolling, but I’ve heard that sentiment from SL users so many times that I’m just not sure anymore.

    In my opinion, Second Life is definitely a game. Hell, it’s not even the first of its genre — MOOs have been around for over a decade, and people have been allowed to make small changes to graphical game worlds (eg. changing the image on a player-specific banner) for an awfully long time. The thing is… when you take a game and let people do whatever they want in it, it’s still a game. Not a particularly fun game, but a game nonetheless.

  64. 0
    2112 says:

    It’s NOT a game. They should be treated like any vandals and arrested, prosecuted and sent to jail or fined. SL is growing and changing fast. I think most people will be surprized how big it will be in 5, 10 and then 15 yrs. It should be taken very seriously. SL is the future like it or not.

  65. 0
    Anonymous says:

    Yep, it was /b/tards. Probably not 4chan because invasion posts last about 30 seconds before a mod deletes them, it was likely a sister site (7chan, or perhaps a community of /b/tards within the game itself). It has nothing to do with “republicans”. They’re just trolling people in SL. SL is a horrible place anyway. What a load of horse shit. Believe me, 4chan does not care about republicans or democrats. They just see someone trying to take the internet seriously and feel the need to “educate them” a little.

    SL is about people who can’t get laid, so they fantasize in an online game about having sex with anthropomorphic foxes and having fictional relationships. It is the lowest form of the internet. I have no idea where these deluded morons get the idea that SL is worth “Millions in economic transactions per day” but they are pretty goddamn retarded. I would be ashamed to even associate with it.

  66. 0
    Jabrwock ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    So they put them up in the last few days to cover their tracks then? 😉

    “We are at war with Oceania. We have *always* been at war with Oceania…” 😀

  67. 0
    Jabrwock ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    I doubt it’s the “official” w-hat group. Their FAQ specifically forbids racist stuff, harassing people, and “highly visible disgusting content”. So unless they broke all three of those rules, I’m guessing it was someone else…

  68. 0
    Father Time ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    the Democrats would probably ban the game (if you can call it that..) outright to protect the precious children

    Considering the fact that they are advertising in the game itself this seems incredibally unlikely and you shouldn’t say all democrats would do that, since most people in the U.S. are democrat republican or politically indifferent (there is no third party with a strong chance in 08). Also if all you’re ever fed is lies and borderline slander about games from a certain lawyer . . ..

  69. 0
    -Jes- says:

    @ Illspirit

    Not that the US Democrats are all that democratic anyway…
    It does seem far too obvious, that the offenders be bush’ies. Though it HAS happened that people wanted the constitution amended to allow Bush Jr. a 3rd term – an amendment that couldn’t have been denied fast enough.

    I reckon the perpetrators being of the W-Hat group or SomethingAwful may be the most logical conclusion here, as no one can show themselves as being THAT retarded unless it was on purpose. Remember, SomethingAwful has a mean-streak at grieving others, while W-Hat lives for it. 😉

  70. 0
    illspirit ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    “Waaaaa! Teh Rethuglicans are evil brownshirts! They’re in ur internets crushing ur free speech!1”

    Pot, kettle, kettle, pot. Given the chance, the Democrats would probably ban the game (if you can call it that..) outright to protect the precious children. As such, I can’t find a violin tiny enough for them here…

    Besides, I’m with Hannah, eShirl, et al on this, in that it was probably W-Hat or, even more likely, some copycats. It’s almost too obvious– to the point of being sloppy –that they were out to make *both* parties look silly. Not that this is hard to do, since both parties are duplicitous, partisan asshats.

  71. 0
    Sotarr_the_Wizard says:

    Somebody did it. It could be hard-core Republicans, it could be Democrats trying to pull a Reichtag Fire manuver, it could just be griefers. Nobody knows, and, chances are, the people who did it created disposable toons to do the job. Unless. of course, they’re seriously stupid. . .which is another possibility.

    Anyway, it’s done. And it obviously did the intended job, look at all the buzz.

    Whoever you are, no doubt you’re congratulating yourself right now.

    Enjoy your 13-year-old humor moment, because people will now be watching. . .

  72. 0
    Gelmax says:

    Why does everyone think that this was political? This is what happens in Second Life. It’s very similar to the internet activity known as “trolling”, and anything serious is in danger of such events – especially real-life groups and organizations doing serious things in SL. Setting up shop in a “(Mature)” sim and not taking appropriate precautions to prevent vandalism means you earn what you get.

  73. 0
    Tyriku ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Guys, this is the apparent work of Anonymous.

    Anonymous doesn’t care for pretty much anything, they only do the crap they do…

    For the lulz.

    Yes, they’re stupid, but it’s what they do. There’s really nothing to look into here, just /b/ being…/b/.


  74. 0

    Second Life is an online persistent virtual world. It is run by a corporation that can enforce its TOS and EUL’s at their discretion. If there was a violation, it is their sole perogative to make that determination and take what action is allowed for either under contract or under law.
    That contract IS the “Law” governing second life, with all other in-“game” laws subject to the government of the people playing therein. Government was defined by G. Washington as simply force. Hence the ability of victims to track down virtual perpetrators and their virtual property becomes the duty of the victim. The victim might then engage in free speech tactics to affect the virtual perpetrator by damaging their reputation and thus damaging their credibility and ability to engage in the commerce of the land is the punishment they can mete out. Also, in a free market, caveat emptor is the watchword of the day. The friends of Edwards campaign should have engaged the proper security features in Second Life to watch over their virtual property, to ensure lockdown of various critical items, to backup their data for easy restoration, etc….
    Those who say that virtual world actions such as these are insignificant have none-the-less spent time devouting responses to this issue, highlighting the importance of the internet, of public relations and of virtual environments, thus demonstrating that their arguement about irrelevancy of this is flawed.

  75. 0
    Fandel says:

    I can just see it now. In a few months, Second Life will become the next “MySpace” in the eyes of the mainstream news media.

    As for Second Life itself. I tried it, but immediately deleted it from my Hard Drive when I found out that my 300 dollar ATI X1950 video card was struggling to hold a steady frame rate. Despite the fact that the game looks like at Nintendo 64 tittle.

    Second Life has got to be one of the most horrible coded games in existence.

  76. 0
    -Jes- says:

    @ Fandel

    I’m told that the program itself doesn’t really do “hardware support” as much as would be reasonable for any newer program. Couple this with intensive cpu-usage due to the way the program works (everything but avatar form and simple terrain works in costumizable primitives), and you’re going to get a low fps no matter your graphics-card.

    On the other hand, I’m hearing good things about the beta-tester program First Look. It’s supposed to run a whole lot better, due to some sort of significant rendering changes.

  77. 0
    MDR says:


    Ever since 06/06/06, Linden Labs has taken away verification for new accounts. Correlationly (if I am using it right), the amount of griefing has increased. Yes, sometimes it is made to be a bigger deal than it is supposed to be.

    And yes, griefing is against TOS.


  78. 0
    i,herbie says:

    lol you guys are seriously getting upset over this?! ROFLMAO aka rooflemayo

    I think this is hilarious. That’s what the fool gets for trying to advertise on a game.

    my vote will go to him anyway, though, since he IS on a game. woot.

  79. 0
    Anonymous says:

    We are not republicans, we are not democrats. We do it for the lulz.

    You can’t stop us.

    Our mission is hate.
    Anonymous does not forgive.
    Anonymous does not forget. Ever.
    United as one. Divided by zero.

  80. 0
    Brokenscope ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Enough with the “Republicans/conservatives did it” bullshit. What would anyone in the political arena who wanted some kind of chance to run do this for.

    If this got traced back to the support staff of any big name candidate on EITHER side of the aisle he or she could lose considerable face over it. Shit like this is great media fodder. They love to criticize smear campaigns while do it to their chosen opponents.

    What a great news flash, “Xcanidate defaces Ycanidates online campaign”.
    Hell a good news network could play it up past that. Hell they would love for a chance to do a special on it and stir up some controversy.

    Hell this looks like simple vandalism for the hell of it. Some people go out and grief others in ANY MMO, that is what they do for fun.

    I don’t know about the rest of the people who stand near the middle but I am fucking tired of the shit being thrown by the fringes flying over my head. Hell you hit your own “team” almost as much as you hit the other “team”. If your gonna to continue to throw it why don’t you go off to the side and throw it without other being caught in between you. We would like a chance to do things in a calm intelligent non knee jerk manner.

    Damnit haven’t been this mad with someone on this site in a while.

    On a calmer note
    Someone mentioned the phone thing in 04, Rove, and Nixon. Doesn’t that make it more likely they didn’t do it. When a republican fucks up they do something that gets their whole party in trouble. They fuck up big time, nothing in half measures.

  81. 0
    Grimm22 says:

    Even though i’m all for free speech, John Edwards is truly a douchebag.

    Seriously, the guy wants to turn america into a communist nation

    News to Edwards, communism is a broken system, it can’t work!

  82. 0
    Tyriku ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    …Are you guys even listening?

    This is /B/ vandalism we’re talking about. This is NORMAL.

    Something tells me you guys have never heard of Fort Longcat.


  83. 0
    AnonAmbientLight says:

    Funniest thing iv seen yet. Thats cool, although very immature.

    Dont kid yourselves though. Dont act like polititians dont do this in the first place anyway. Dont ignore whats already there, and plain to see. Just because you dont believe in it in your mind set, doesnt mean it doesnt exisit.

  84. 0
    Anonymous says:

    Second Life is full of the worst faggots on the Internet, the Edwards campaign team needs to understand they are not on the cutting edge of anything by setting up something in there.

  85. 0
    AnonAmbientLight says:

    Well, they should have known better imo. I mean if john edwards came on a random forum of some internet website he would get a whole bunch of crap.

    Not only “FIRST!” but also, other people’s negative and positive feedback. And since its the intraweb you can say what you want. : \

    I still find it humerous.

  86. 0
    Anonymous says:





    NO U





  87. 0
    NobodyImportant says:

    “Bush ’08” is a rather obvious joke, I hope you all realize that.
    It’s rather unlikely that the raiders actually believed that Bush could be re-elected in ’08 – it’s much more likely they chose it because it’s so ridiculous.

  88. 0
    GoodRobotUs ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    ‘“Bush ‘08? is a rather obvious joke, I hope you all realize that.
    It’s rather unlikely that the raiders actually believed that Bush could be re-elected in ‘08 – it’s much more likely they chose it because it’s so ridiculous.’

    Undoubtedly true, but it’s also already being turned into something more ‘meaningful’ by both Linden Labs and the Political offices themselves. Regardless of the intention behind the act, any ammunition for promoting yourself and attacking your ‘enemy’ will be used. In politics this is even more the case.

    The simple act of ‘vandalising’ (for want of a better word) something that has political ties will automatically be considered a statement by the opposite party, whether it was intended by the people who did it to be a statement or just because they could.

  89. 0
    Anti-Griefer says:

    As a member of a Second Life neighborhood watch group that deals extensively with griefers, I would suggest that the perpetrators are not, in fact, the ’08 republicans they claim to be. The majority of in-world griefers choose identities and manufacture bogus group affiliations specifically to encite anger, confuse and misdirect. They are simply hacker jerks looking for unsecured targets that cause the most attention-getting trouble.

    It appears to have worked in this case.

  90. 0
    supercrazyplatypus says:

    Judging by the response on this thread, it seems that a lot of lefties are COMPLETELY CLUELESS as to who did this. They reflexively think that the attack was done by Republicans/conservatives, and in doing so show their complete lack of knowledge about trolling in general. The way this attack was done, it is so obvious to anyone with a clue that it was done by 4chan /b/-tards. This whole episode tells me that left-wingers are just as quick to jump to incorrect conclusions as right-wingers.

  91. 0
    bildo says:

    hahahaha this is amazing. I think its insane that politics and all that other garbage gets involved in second life. ITS A GAME PEOPLE! I play to get away from politicans and garbage like that. However, while i dont like government in my games, I do however find it amusing, when someone makes a mockery of them on a game.

  92. 0
    Intellectual says:

    The SL ‘natives’ calling the W-hats and /b/tards immature is hilariously ironic. The latter parties don’t built pathetic sex dungeons, they haven’t lost their perception of reality, and they don’t take the statement “I’m in the computer. The guy behind the keyboard is my typist.” seriously. Grow up.

  93. 0
    Khyris says:

    The partisan nonsense from both sides in this thread is abhorrent.
    Either pick up a few books on U.S. legal code, or learn the scientific method before you ever use the word “This just proves….” in a sentence again.

    Your basis of evidence is “some article you read on some blog on the internet about some incident of which you have no direct knowledge.” And somehow you feel that justifies the conclusion: “It just goes to show that (insert group name here) who I make prejudicial and stereotypical statements about rather than judging each individual on their own faults and merits are living up to the self fulfilling prophecy I just made up. Anyone who doesn’t believe my BS is just ‘ignorant.'”

    I am so sick of hearing “… oh you know… so and so must be up to no good, because we SUSPECTED them of being up to no good before, so it’s a pattern!” Rely on proof… not every editorial you read on ‘teh intrawebz!’ (see first paragraph for definition of ‘proof’)

    And for all the SUPER-uninformed out there, BOTH parties contain INDIVIDUALS who have DIFFERING opinions about racial relations. While I agree someone who offers a “whites only” scholarship is a racist… so is someone who offers a “minorities only” scholarship, so you can cram it about one party being more racist than the other. Both are equally guilty/innocent. Scholarships should be based on merit, effort, and maybe economic need provided the former two are met. Period. No one wants to succeed ONLY because they happen to be a minority… individuals want to succeed because they feel they deserve to, and self-esteem is an integral part of success.

    NEVER judge someone based on race, either for bad OR good. Every individual should have the OPPORTUNITY (only) to do what they want with their lives, successful or not, and it has nothing to do with the color of their skin, or who they vote for like mindless sheep, but their internal moral fibre and the guidance of their parents. The word opportunity is very specific in definition. No one is “Guaranteed” any RIGHT to SUCCEED, nor does anyone have the RIGHT to go through life without ever seeing anything they might find offenseive. How boring would it be if everyone lived in THAT bubble?

    Neither party is right “more often” than the other… as it was pointed out individual people change party affiliation all the time. Parties constituents constantly change, and therefore the viewpoints constantly change.

    Please understand the irony in stating as proven fact: “If you don’t believe my stereotypical statement that a given group always makes stereotypical assessements of the other group as ‘ignorant,’ then you are ‘ignorant.'” The only proven fact here is that you are an ignorant stereotypist!

    Seriously the IQ level of about half the posters seems to be about half of the level of the perpetrators. I’m angrier at you than some wierdos in some VR world that I don’t care about. It’s not worth my time to lambast you each individually, so sadly I must resign myself that most of you will just go on with your vitriolic existence assuming that this post “must not apply” to you. GP IS a proper place to discuss political matters… but learn some logic and keep an open mind if you intend to command any respect in presenting the issues of gamers to the outside world.

  94. 0
    Anonymous says:

    Edwards has lost my respect. Before looking into it his team immediately blame republicans. If they looked into it they would have found the real culprits.

    I despise this kind of jumping to conclusions when republicans do it and it only disgusts me more when a democrat does it. Not just any democrat, one that I’ve respected and wanted to see in the white house since 04.

    He’s going to have to do quite a bit to earn back some respect.

  95. 0
    udx ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I know it’s not the Republicans and I doubt Lowtax and/or his buds at Something Awful had anything to do with the incident.

  96. 0
    CorkOnTheFork says:

    Let’s be honest, who among us DIDN’T see this coming? Anshe Chung gets interviewed by CNET, people interrupt it. Companies set up shop, people raid it. A politician set up an HQ to reach out to a larger audience, giving absolutely no consideration to the possibility that the majority of said audience doesn’t vote, people vandalize it.

    It’s second life, exactly how people have the nerve to act surprised at this is beyond me.

  97. 0
    Shido says:

    Probably been said before, but this kind of thing has been happening in SL to all sorts of groups since the game came out. If you’re a target, you’re gonna get vandals. Maybe Edwards’ web supporters should talk to the furries in SL (stop that laughing!), they have good counter-griefing measures.

  98. 0
    Mudkips Acronym says:

    “they have good counter-griefing measures.”

    Wrong and wrong. We’ve destroyed the furries over nine thousand times, and do it daily.

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