I can't wait until the day when gun companies complain that video games give their products a bad image.

If you know Mexico and Mexicans this guy isn't really pissed off about the game, he's really just pissed that he didn't get any money out off of the game. He doesent care about the drugs and poverty in his country because the cartels own him, so he can't look the gift horse in the mouth.

[...] In Mexico, at least, the fight has stepped up an order of magnitude: from mayor to governor. As reported by Juarez newspaper El Diario, the the governor of the Mexican state of Chihuahua, Jose Reyes Baeza Terraces, issued a command to seize all copies of Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2. [...]

Fuck: fuck under king consentiment. Fuck americans, you fuckin politic terrorists, VIVA MEXICO YOU FUCKIN FAGGOTS. You americans should read a little more, you are ignorants and you think you are the ebst country and all that shit, but you are the worst shit of country ever, so fuck you putos

He's just pissed Call of Juarez isn't doing that well.

Here's a new link to the article : http://www.elpasotimes.com/search/ci_5390403

Jabrwock: you're right about that, but it wasn't really my point. My point is that the "barren run down" theme was pretty consistant in GRAW, and therefore.. can't blame the mayer for being p/o'd... though he has no clue what he's talking about.

On another note, I'd love to see a whole line of games where america is the rat-bastard. not so much as a "HOW DO YOU LIKE IT!?" as...

Well for crying out loud, we have thousands of people who's attitude is "plant our boot in the enemy's ass... that's the american way!"... lets rile them up!

I think Majestic hit the nail on the head. When I first read the article, I kept wondering why Juarez sounded familiar. Juarez has quite the reputation with violence against women. Just google "Juarez Women" and it's amazing and horrible how much there is. And that issue dates back before GRAW2, it dates back before there were Tom Clancy video games at all.

So Mr. Mayor, I think you have bigger concerns than your 'image' in a game or the possibility that these games MIGHT cause violence.

"to all of mexico being depicted as one big ghetto"

I'll admit Clancy has a bit of a superiority complex vis a vis the US vs 3rd world countries, but then again, if you were a rebel, would you be operating out of a pristine hotel, or a slum where you could hide amongst the dregs of society?

In the ghet-toooooooooooe...

Not all of his bad-guys are corporate-financed mercs. And even they need somewhere to hide. ;)

I'm not saying that juarez is right in his accusations... but I can understand perfectly why he's upset. Of all the misogynistic, ultra violent, idiotic games out there, in my mind, the tom Clancy line stands as one of the most offensive line of videogames (after all, this is Tom “nationalist” Clancy we’re talking about here).

Just… the depiction of non-americans is just… wow… and I love Dave Chappelle, and Margaret Cho, with the best of them. But between idiotic guards bantering at eachother with fake Russian accents, to all of mexico being depicted as one big ghetto, it’s kind of a case of “who do these people think they are? (or at least, ‘couldn’t you guys at least perform the most rudimentary of research?)

Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE the Tom Clancy game line, but as an American, my brow is set to ‘insta-furrow’ while playing them, and I can only wonder what the people of mexico, Republic of China, Japan, Russia, Georgia, so on and so forth, would respond to these crude depictions.

If I understand correctly, this game is about fighting off rebel forces in Mexico and the US. I don't see how fighting to maintain the status quo is "upside down values". It's a gray area, IMO, if anything. It can be good or bad depending on the situation.

"Juárez has gained further notoriety as a major center of narcotics trafficking linked to the powerful Juárez Cartel, and for hundreds of unsolved murders of young women since 1993. Unfortunately, because of widely alleged police complicity (and perhaps even participation on the part of police and government officials and local elites), the serial murders continue and most of them remain "unsolved" despite the years that have gone by, though homicides have dropped a bit since 2004 despite the increase of population. As a result of the murders, Juárez (along with the capital of the state, Chihuahua City) has become a center for protest against sexual violence throughout Mexico.[1] Meanwhile, many continue working to maintain a positive image of Ciudad Juarez"

-Wikipedia entry on the city of Juarez

Juarez is notorious for the disappearance and murder or rape of women. I remember hearing about it a few years back, and sure enough it was the same Juarez. I do applaud the mayor for standing up and defending his city, but he doesn't seem to notice how crime-riddled Juarez is. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a hand in some of the corruption as well, because a lot of that stuff trickles down from the top.

I'm not certain he hates GRAW2 at all. It's giving him free publicity that should help in the next election. But "instill values that are upside-down?" First of all, that has to be a literal translation of "contrary." Second, I haven't seen any game instill anything. The only thing I get from it is that video game violence can be indulged while real violence is not a game and is not good.

The FICTIONAL plot (hello reality vs. fiction confusion, Senor Mayor) is a mission to prevent a great disaster in Mexico and the US. Why is that bad? People who cannot tell fiction from realidad are mentally ill.

when the old people will die the young will rule

Wow... bellicose. That is a word I haven't seen in a while.
meh edit function. ect ect.

Well, that wasn't really a shocker, if I recall, he had a problem with the first game being set in Mexico.

"The story is fictional."

'nuff said.

nightwng2000
NW2K Software

[...] 2) Another Ubisoft title and another mayor clash as the mayor of Juarez, Mexico objects to most of GRAW 2 being set in the town. [...]