Juarez Mayor Takes Shots at GRAW2

March 9, 2007 -
Municipal governments often court film production companies, even when the subject matter contains scenes of violence.

But violent video games staged in realistic settings are increasingly drawing the wrath of local officials. Yesterday, the mayor of Juarez, Mexico took exception to his city's depiction in Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2, new for the Xbox 360. PC, PSP and PS3 versions are planned for release later this year.

As reported by the El Paso Times, Mayor Héctor Murguía Lardizábal (left) called upon federal authorities to stop children and teens from playing the game. He said that video games create violence and that GRAW2 is not so much a game as a crime against the intellectual capacity of Juarez residents:
Violent video games instill values which are upside down, and these actions are despicable because they attempt to divide the good will of the residents of American and Mexican cities.

In the game, an elite force of U.S. commandos battle a Mexican rebel organization. Much of the game takes place in Juarez, as well as at the border and in El Paso, Texas.

Said Jamie Borasi, a spokesman for publisher Ubisoft:
The El Paso location was a natural evolution from the original 'GRAW' which came out last March. The story is fictional. The first game took place in Mexico City, and the second game sees a resurgence of rebel forces approaching the Mexican-American border between Juárez and El Paso.

GamePolitics readers will recall that in 2006 Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman took exception to his town's depiction in Ubisoft's Rainbow Six Vegas.
 

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This is just Ubisoft Montreal's way of getting back at Mexico for all the murders of Canadians there on holiday in the past 2 years.

I can't wait until the day when gun companies complain that video games give their products a bad image.

No the only reason he is taking shots at it is, because he thinks it will really happen, but still its fictional

If you know Mexico and Mexicans this guy isn't really pissed off about the game, he's really just pissed that he didn't get any money out off of the game. He doesent care about the drugs and poverty in his country because the cartels own him, so he can't look the gift horse in the mouth.

I respond to people like this man with complete incredulity. Moral issues aside, does he really expect an entire nation to condemn and crucify a *video game* because he doesn't like it very much? I long for humble politicians.

[...] In Mexico, at least, the fight has stepped up an order of magnitude: from mayor to governor. As reported by Juarez newspaper El Diario, the the governor of the Mexican state of Chihuahua, Jose Reyes Baeza Terraces, issued a command to seize all copies of Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2. [...]

[...] In Mexico, at least, the fight has stepped up an order of magnitude: from mayor to governor. As reported by Juarez newspaper El Diario, the the governor of the Mexican state of Chihuahua, Jose Reyes Baeza Terraces, issued a command to seize all copies of Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2. [...]

Fuck: fuck under king consentiment. Fuck americans, you fuckin politic terrorists, VIVA MEXICO YOU FUCKIN FAGGOTS. You americans should read a little more, you are ignorants and you think you are the ebst country and all that shit, but you are the worst shit of country ever, so fuck you putos

Haha that's the first game I thought of when I saw this story... I wouldn't be surprised it didn't do well, I downloaded the demo a long while back and it was rather "meh" and greatly unoptimized though maybe that changed in the final version.

He's just pissed Call of Juarez isn't doing that well.

Being from elpaso before moving away, I can tell you this.

Juarez is a Demilitarized zone, more or less. This mans attack on video games is just a cover for his inability to do anything other then rob the city blind and then blame america cause Juarez is a cesspool.

Pathetic is the only word that truly suits him

Here's a new link to the article : http://www.elpasotimes.com/search/ci_5390403

Frankly, it's not just Juarez that's a "wretched hive of scum and villainy". MOST of the border towns have serious drug and crime problems.

Jabrwock: you're right about that, but it wasn't really my point. My point is that the "barren run down" theme was pretty consistant in GRAW, and therefore.. can't blame the mayer for being p/o'd... though he has no clue what he's talking about.

On another note, I'd love to see a whole line of games where america is the rat-bastard. not so much as a "HOW DO YOU LIKE IT!?" as...

Well for crying out loud, we have thousands of people who's attitude is "plant our boot in the enemy's ass... that's the american way!"... lets rile them up!

So in other words, he's upset that he can't profit from his city being featured in the game.

I think Majestic hit the nail on the head. When I first read the article, I kept wondering why Juarez sounded familiar. Juarez has quite the reputation with violence against women. Just google "Juarez Women" and it's amazing and horrible how much there is. And that issue dates back before GRAW2, it dates back before there were Tom Clancy video games at all.

So Mr. Mayor, I think you have bigger concerns than your 'image' in a game or the possibility that these games MIGHT cause violence.

I wish LA would get pissed every time a cop movie came out.

"to all of mexico being depicted as one big ghetto"

I'll admit Clancy has a bit of a superiority complex vis a vis the US vs 3rd world countries, but then again, if you were a rebel, would you be operating out of a pristine hotel, or a slum where you could hide amongst the dregs of society?

In the ghet-toooooooooooe...

Not all of his bad-guys are corporate-financed mercs. And even they need somewhere to hide. ;)
-- If your wiimote goes snicker-snack, check your wrist-strap...

...he opts that they are fictional and that it causes violence, YET STILL there has been little to no proof that they do actually cause this violence...

...one day we will lose our O-Zone because of all the hot air the politicians lose from the mindless ramblings they make.

I'm not saying that juarez is right in his accusations... but I can understand perfectly why he's upset. Of all the misogynistic, ultra violent, idiotic games out there, in my mind, the tom Clancy line stands as one of the most offensive line of videogames (after all, this is Tom “nationalist” Clancy we’re talking about here).

Just… the depiction of non-americans is just… wow… and I love Dave Chappelle, and Margaret Cho, with the best of them. But between idiotic guards bantering at eachother with fake Russian accents, to all of mexico being depicted as one big ghetto, it’s kind of a case of “who do these people think they are? (or at least, ‘couldn’t you guys at least perform the most rudimentary of research?)

Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE the Tom Clancy game line, but as an American, my brow is set to ‘insta-furrow’ while playing them, and I can only wonder what the people of mexico, Republic of China, Japan, Russia, Georgia, so on and so forth, would respond to these crude depictions.

Someone needs his nap for the day.....If you are going to bitch at video games at being "bad" then please bitch at the movie industry eqauly.

If I understand correctly, this game is about fighting off rebel forces in Mexico and the US. I don't see how fighting to maintain the status quo is "upside down values". It's a gray area, IMO, if anything. It can be good or bad depending on the situation.

Just found this as well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ju%C3%A1rez_Cartel

The Juarez Cartel was also featured in the 2001 film "Traffic". seems like GRAW2 isn't exactly setting precedent when it comes to exposing the city of Juarez's problems.

"Juárez has gained further notoriety as a major center of narcotics trafficking linked to the powerful Juárez Cartel, and for hundreds of unsolved murders of young women since 1993. Unfortunately, because of widely alleged police complicity (and perhaps even participation on the part of police and government officials and local elites), the serial murders continue and most of them remain "unsolved" despite the years that have gone by, though homicides have dropped a bit since 2004 despite the increase of population. As a result of the murders, Juárez (along with the capital of the state, Chihuahua City) has become a center for protest against sexual violence throughout Mexico.[1] Meanwhile, many continue working to maintain a positive image of Ciudad Juarez"

-Wikipedia entry on the city of Juarez

Juarez is notorious for the disappearance and murder or rape of women. I remember hearing about it a few years back, and sure enough it was the same Juarez. I do applaud the mayor for standing up and defending his city, but he doesn't seem to notice how crime-riddled Juarez is. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a hand in some of the corruption as well, because a lot of that stuff trickles down from the top.

Considering how many of Mexico's problems are caused by corrupt government officials, this guy has nothing to stand on.

I'm not certain he hates GRAW2 at all. It's giving him free publicity that should help in the next election. But "instill values that are upside-down?" First of all, that has to be a literal translation of "contrary." Second, I haven't seen any game instill anything. The only thing I get from it is that video game violence can be indulged while real violence is not a game and is not good.

The FICTIONAL plot (hello reality vs. fiction confusion, Senor Mayor) is a mission to prevent a great disaster in Mexico and the US. Why is that bad? People who cannot tell fiction from realidad are mentally ill.

[...] read full story [...]

when the old people will die the young will rule

Sounds like a Mexican governmental official is looking at America and saying, "I want to do that too."

I do understand his concern over the location of the game, but I think that if it will damage anyone it will be people outside of Mexico. If it does damage them it will only tarnish their image of Mexico. Not that illegal immigrants and drug trafficking don't already.

Wow... bellicose. That is a word I haven't seen in a while.
meh edit function. ect ect.

Yes, I'm sure this is creating unprecedented fear amongst the populace. I'm sure very many of them will be playing this game then running into their homes afraid for their lives. The local economies will crash because of this game. Think of all the poor frightened children....

Okay, I don't think i need to go on with that. They have nothing to fear, its not like a rouge group could really ever disrupt the Mexican government.... Anyways, work of fiction, ect,ect,ect.

... same old story. This is the least of your problems if you think it will tarnish the local image.

Well, that wasn't really a shocker, if I recall, he had a problem with the first game being set in Mexico.

"He said that video games create violence..."

Oh yeah, I'm sure widespread poverty and drug cartels have NOTHING to do with the violence in his country. Nope, it has to be those goldurned video games.

Somebody slap this person, please.

"The story is fictional."

'nuff said.

nightwng2000
NW2K Software

[...] Gov. Jose Reyes Baeza Terraces apparently took the action following recent criticism of GRAW2 by Juarez Mayor Héctor Murguía Lardizábal, who called the game, which deals with battles between an elite U.S. force an Mexican rebels, ”a crime against the intellectual capacity of Juarez residents.” The Juarez mayor offered this blanket condemnation: Violent video games instill values which are upside down, and these actions are despicable because they attempt to divide the good will of the residents of American and Mexican cities. [...]

[...] 2) Another Ubisoft title and another mayor clash as the mayor of Juarez, Mexico objects to most of GRAW 2 being set in the town. [...]

 
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