Fighting Game Addiction the Subliminal Way

March 13, 2007
Okay, so GP is a sucker for a gadget story...

The Korea Times reports on a company which claims to have developed an inaudible sound sequence that can be used to make obsessive online gamers step away from their PCs.

Yun Yun-hae, president of Xtive, told the Korea Times that the concept is based on subliminal messages:
We incorporated messages into an acoustic sound wave telling gamers to stop playing. The messages are told 10,000 to 20,000 times per second. Game users can't recognize the sounds. But their subconscious is aware of them and the chances are high they will quit playing.

Korea is one of several countries where officials are concerned about online gaming addiction.  
Our newly developed sound sequence tells (adolescents) to stop playing on their own. We think this can make a real difference in the war against obsessive game play.

It appears that the Xtive audio sequence would need to be licensed by online game companies. Yun has plans to discuss the concept with Korean game companies as well as the government. He sees applications for the subliminal message system which extend beyond gaming.
Game companies can install a system, which delivers the inaudible sounds after it recognizes a young user has kept playing after a preset period of time... We can easily change the messages. In this sense, the potential for this technology is exponential.

Although its effectiveness remains unclear, subliminal advertising has been banned in several countries for decades.

Comments

Is this commie Korea or the non commie Korea or all of it?

I have a hard time believing this, but I like how the kid in the picture is playing Starcraft. Given that we're talking about Korean technology, it's a nice touch.

Given that typical computer audio only is around 38 frames per second I'm going to have to call BS on this. You won't be able to understand it normally or subliminally because you can't squeeze a 3 second sentance repeated 20,000 times into 38 frames.

SMOKE

"10,000 to 20,000 times per second"

Sounds like it would be repeated so fast, it would just make a high-pitched squeal of noise. Which I'm sure is much more annoying than just popping up a message saying "hey get off!"
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RedDraconian, I think this is more geared towards the older people who play these games non-stop. . . And this is the Chineese Government, not the States. In a sense, President Hu Jintao is everybody's father over there.

Oh, its Korea. My bad. I see your point.

To quote Suicidal Tenencies, "They're f***ing with me subliminally!" ;)

Gotta get them all, Chinpokemon!
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HA!
When I was younger, my mom would also repeat the same message over and over, apparently at a frequency I couldnt comprehend... because I didn't hear her. I'd imagine this little program will have the same efficacy.

Pseudoscience at its best!

yeah.... this would really suck. time to dissconnect the speakers.

Is this going to be like on of those things you put in your garden to scare away Cats with really high pitch noises but designed for gamers? Those things really piss me off.

I've developed a subliminal message that makes you irresistible to women, and can increase your girth up to 20x! Please send $500 to my paypal account and I'll let you in on this unbelievable secret!

Good thing I don't play with the speakers on. Suckas!

"The messages are told 10,000 to 20,000 times per second."

Wha? Even if the "messages" consist of nothing more than a single "click", that's still in the extreme upper range of most people's hearing. If the message actually were to contain any information (which would seem to be a necessity to achieve the claimed effect), compressing it to be broadcast 10,000 times a second would put it way out of reach of any kind of actual perception.

I want to hack this message and have it say, "Send Jeff Money." With my paypal email in it. But since subliminal messages really don't have a discernable effect, I'll still be rolling into work in a few minutes.

~~All Knowledge is Worth Having~~

Aye, I think it's like the Brown Note; doesn't really exist. *MythBusters, anyone?*

Just think how happy this development will make the Chinese government! Now they can get people to get off their game and also convince them not to question the government.

You have got to be kidding. Now we're using mind control to keep the kids from playing until their eyes bleed?

Where the heck are the parents? Is it too much trouble to keep track of how long your kid has been playing, and then -stop them from playing too long-? Use a watch, for crying out loud.

Not to mention the moral implications, who are, hopefully, really obvious.

xD

Hello. For people who saying: "yeah…. this would really suck. time to dissconnect the speakers."
Well, don't do that. I actualy got tested, and i had the feeling to stop and get up. So i got up, i went to the dinning room, and i suddently got the feeling to play again. I re-played, and it was fun, but borring at same time... But this is a good way to stop playing.

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I find this stupid, firstly i doubt very much they can repeat a certain frequency 10,000 - 20,000 times per second. Then there is teh fact that if it is possible seeming you dont recognise it wouldnt that me that you would have no idea it was palying and that the gaming companies to pull in more money from you on WoW or somthing like that would use it to say "Keep playing, just another minute" and you times "just another minute" by 20,000 times a second and there are quite a few " just another seconds there

As an addict myself, I would welcome this. Just don't tell me about it or I would figure out how to disable it. As an aside, YES I am an adult. YES I realize it sounds like a cheezie addiction. That doesn't change the fact that (medical reality) an addiction changes the chemistry of your brain to support a need for the impulse/reward/chemical/victory/comfort of the activity or substance. Therefor feeding and strengthening the addiction. Making a game undesirable after you spend more than 5 thousand hours at it might just be a good idea. Make the pain higher than the chemical need and teach the brain's (un)balance that the game is more con than pro.

I couldn't understand some parts of this article Fighting Game Addiction the Subliminal Way, but I guess I just need to check some more resources regarding this, because it sounds interesting.

i thinks its good

OMG it is goods mr LR is cool

Hello Interesting insight into Fighting Game Addiction the Subliminal Way. I have often thought about this myself. I think high-pitched ringtone is somewhat related. On Sunday I have the day off, so will look more into it.

Fighting Game Addiction is not a easy task people. At least this people are trying to help their country future by solving the problem. It more of society fault then the individual. If everybody play MMO every waken moment then why shouldn't you. This is like cancer and you can't just kill it. We need to find a cure for gaming addiction. If American founded a way to stop a fat man from over eating than Korea can found a way to stop young boy from being addicted to game. If this don't stop in 30 yrs Korea will fall to the American!!! Adding Korea to the collection the "United World". Not realy.....
I'm 16 and I'm a game addict help me I'm CrAzY! @.@!?

No I'm not crazy and I'm a game addict. Kid with depressing life want to feel alive by playing Online game. It like having a split personality. In a online game you can control what you look like power. People don't know who you are in realy life so you can actualy say and do anything you want. You become your own god. You want to OwN and Pwn everything. You want to feel good by thinking you are better then someone else. This is some serious problem. I don't know if subliminal messages would work or not, but I hope it does for the life of thousand of game addict people are desperately need help. I was hoping they would inject or make us eat some kind of chemical that stop us the need to play game in our head.

Have they try making legal age game addict kid watch some porn? Mabey porn is the answer to bring them back to the reality from their fantasy world. Yup. Real hard porn. It might work.

i am such a fatass so i can eat my own sh**

Im an addict in Css source =p

The "Subliminal way" is but an illusion and is not supported at all in research. Read more here if interested:
http://iloblog.stics.se/yard?Home&post=2
http://yard.stics.se/

Game addiction is just an addiction among all other addictions and should be treated in that way in order to combat it.
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