BREAKING: Take Two Sues Jack Thompson over Manhunt 2, GTA4

In the wake of a recent legal threat by Miami attorney Jack Thompson (left), game publisher Take Two Interactive has launched a pre-emptive strike.

With Thompson threatening to file suit to block the release of Grand Theft Auto 4 and Manhunt 2, Take Two has petitioned the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida for relief.

The software publisher seeks to block Thompson from trying to have the games declared a public nuisance under Florida law. Thompson filed a similar action against Take Two’s Bully last October, but a Florida judge rejected Thompson’s contention, allowing Bully to be sold by retailers.

In its complaint, Take Two claims the action is necessary because:

Thompson has a history of making multiple threats of legal action, whether substantiated or not, both against (Take Two) as well as the retailers who purchase the video games and offer them for sale to the public. Thompson has made such threats again in connection with Manhunt 2 and GTAIV…

The suit alleges that Thompson’s public nuisance tactic violates Take Two’s First Amendment rights. Lawyers for the game publisher argue that the Florida statute under which Thompson is seeking to have the games declared as nuisances essentially makes the controversial lawyer “a private attorney general on behalf of the State of Florida.”

Take Two is also seeking to recover from Thompson its attorney fees and other costs incurred related to the pending legal action.

For his part, Thompson criticizes the Take Two complaint in a writ filed with the Florida Supreme Court, and rather dubiously takes credit for a recent shareholder revolt which is expected to result in the firing of CEO Paul Eibeler as early as next week. The attorney writes:

So successful has Thompson been in exposing the fraud and criminal conduct of Take-Two on the national stage… that a corporate coup by 46% of Take-Two’s shareholders is set for March 23, which nearly all financial analysts… are predicting will be successful and which will result in the firing of all Take-Two management and the entire board…

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    poligame says:

    He should have stayed at home. Nothing bad coud have happened there, he could have even enjoyed a game of online poker, win your money in a fair way. I hope he gets what he deserves.

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    derelix ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    they need him to be on trial in a courtroom like on that movie idocracy
    “your sentenced to 4 hours in rehabilitation” lol i would love to see him hit by a giant lawn mower or some shit

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    rofl says:

    jack is a moron. if people acualy run around killing people because of video games it prolyl cause there drunk on drugs or just metaly challenged(no offence). and there not even that bad specialy in GTA u shoot someone they fall to the ground they pore a puddle of blood its not even that bad compared to the chainsaw in Gears of War.

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    GamePolitics ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    People – this is an old, old story (March, 2007)… I’m not sure why it suddenly showed up on Kotaku, but it is popping up on other sites since then as well.

    OLD NEWS….. OLD NEWS…. NOT A NEW STORY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    DarkTetsuya ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Darn, just when I was starting to miss seeing his ugly mug on the front page of GP…. NOT!

    Ah well, good call on T2’s part, win one for teh Gipper 😀


    Indeed. If he didn’t sue them every time an M-rated game was announced (Which, last I checked was not, in fact illegal) maybe he wouldn’t be in this mess?


    Sucks to be him, I guess…

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    MR.B says:

    Did anybody read the grey area thats under the story, it says “This entry was posted on Friday March 16th at 11:00 am”. Brian posted a link to an old story and claimed it was breaking news. If it was breaking news ,it would have been on the front page of gamepolitics.

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    Enku C. says:

    The man is a hypocrite. He states that “no where in the bible does it say to kill people,” yet I clearly recall one sentence above all : “thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.”

    If that’s not an order to kill based on bull reasons, I don’t know what is.

    now, to find more sources and finish my research paper on how video games are only good for society.

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    Smoke says:

    I’m going to skip the story itself, and get right to the stick thats up Jacks ass… Violence, and sex, in video games…

    Violence has been around since the dawn of mankind, and before probably(dinosaurs don’t look overly friendly), so please explain to me how an invention of the last 30 years is responsible for millions of years of violence?

    In fact, explain to me why the last 30 years, could actually be considered the least violent times in the history of man? In the terms of the violence of all previous generations, the world is actually quite stable, and has very low rates of violence, when compared to times in history were the entire planet was basically engulfed in a war.. (Holy wars, World Wars, etc, etc..)

    Video games are in no way responsible for the violent acts people carry out, they have been doing these things since before rap/metal music, television, and video games existed, or anything else for that matter..

    People are by nature violent, most of us fight these urges, some of can’t, or don’t, or whatever, and when they do commit these acts, and get caught, they try to blame something else, it was tv, or games, or the voices in my head…

    As for sex in games, well, tough, the games were for 17+ and up, I have seen just as much sex and nudity in R rated(17+) movies, nobody seems to mind that, and besides, sex is natural what are you so afraid of, I am sure that these 17+ years olds have had sex, not to mention they see nudity every time they get undressed,..

    I agree little children should not be purposefully exposed to such, but seventeen is hardly a child, and the package clearly states that its not for children…

    Ignoring this fact, lets say that they somehow missed the “Mature 17+” bit, well, there’s a girl who is obviously very slutty showing cleavage, and licking her lips on the cover, a picture of thugs doing a drive-by, a police helicopter, gee, let me think, does this look like something I should buy for my child.. NOOOOOO!!! Of course not, are you stupid, so I fail to see the problem here..

    Any one with half a fucking brain, can see this is all bullshit, and Jack Thompson is a fucking asshole, I mean he claims Christian, but supports murderers, then says Rockstar is bad for depicting violence, they’re not the ones helping murders get lesser sentences by claiming “The video game made me do it!”, now are they..

    So who is the real asshole, the guys making games, ie, fantasy violence, or the guy thats helping the real criminals by making this an acceptable excuse in court rooms..

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    Chris Garnier says:

    What really needs to be measured in these kinds of statistics is the type of parenting these people had, not how many video games they played per day. We live in a digitalized generation, and therefore there will be more serial killers who played violent games. This means nothing, as there are more violent games out there. But it has been known that serial killers are more likely to come from abusive parents than nurturing ones. That’s been proven by statistics for a long time. One can be ascribed to coincidence, the other to fact, simply because there is a plausible explanation.

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    spyder335 says:

    every generation has a scapegoat for the problems of the world in the

    1920 it was jazz music
    1930 comic books
    1940 germans (it was true for once)
    1950 elvis while on stage moved his hips in a provocotive manner (gasp)
    1960 jimi hendrix
    1970 computers
    1980 kiss (the band)
    1990 rap music
    2000 video games

    my what a crap world some people try to make

    my point is every generation seems to blame everything on some form of popular media so no one has to claim responsibility for thier kids actions

    heres a fun fact they tried to ban centerpiede for its violence

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    FreekShow says:

    Kids don’t kill people, gamers don’t kill people, any one who plays a FPS don’t kill people. it’s people not raised right by there parents that kill people. It’s not a video problem it’s a parenting problem!

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    […] But this time around, Take Two has decided to strike back. It has filed a lawsuit in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida against Thompson, arguing that his repeated failed lawsuits and public threats against the company comprise a nuisance. The company claims that Thompson’s numerous lawsuits are filed to generate publicity for himself and to damage Take Two’s business reputation, rather than to succeed on the merits. Take Two hopes the court will enjoin Thompson from bringing suit on behalf of the State of Florida to enjoin the sale of its games. […]

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    GoodRobotUs ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Thompson won’t be left destitute by this, you can all rest assured of that. The chances are high that the court won’t even pass costs from a corporation to an individual for something like this, and whatever those costs are, Thompson makes that up in Medical Malpractice suits quite comfortably.

    If I thought this was some sort of attempt to actually ‘hurt’ Thompson, I would probably be having serious doubts, but it’s not, it’s about stopping Thompson from doing what he did with Bully, which made retailers like Dixons refuse to stock the game, because they were too bloody ignorant to check the facts. That, in effect, hurt the effectiveness of Bully, though not enough to make it unprofitable, but just enough to allow to vicious misconceptions to be spread around.

    Everyone remember, even after his court case against Bully failed, he still managed to junk mail local stockists with a legal-looking document stating that Bully had Homosexual Sex taking place in it. Frankly, what Thompson is doing is a deliberate and malicious smear campaign, and he’s stooped incredibly low in order to achieve his ‘high’ ideals, as they say, actions speak louder than words.

    So frankly, yes, I want to see this succeed and I want to see brakes put on Thompson’s current strategy of vexatious litigation.

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    Joshua A Lopez 14 yrs old says:

    U c Jacky? this is what u get for messing with videogames and the people who play them. i played die hard trilogy at age 2 and u don’t see me going on a bloody ramoage. I played GTA3 at age 10 and i dont do anything u say that i would do just for palying it. I played Halo at age 9 and u don’t c me going beserk with a weapon. Jack u r just one of those stupid little bastards in life who think u can push people around just cause u have some degree or u r in seat of power. jack u tried to ban bully but u can’t c that your a bully/asshole yourself!!!

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    […] As reported on Gamepolitics today, Take Two interactive are to take proactive steps to make sure that gaming’s favourite lawyer, Jack Thompson, isn’t even able to get as far as considering blocking the release of either Manhunt 2, or GTA 4, as has been alluded to, following on from the farce that was the lawsuit he brought up against Rockstar’s game, Bully. […]

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    cullarn ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    how bout we just nip it all in the bud and just claim these lawsuits are a public nusance in and of themselves. then we can free the courts time for people with real grievances

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    Mysticgamer ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Can you ban something a year before it’s even been created?

    JT: Your honor, I would like to stop Take Two from releasing GTA4 into stores.
    Judge: And when is that?
    JT: According to this magazine rumor article, third quarter of 2008

    If that’s possible is there anyway we can do this against Uwe Boll before he releases those three movies on games very few people liked or played. (Honestly, does anyone even know what Dungeon Siege is about?) Or maybe we can get Jack to go after Uwe Boll in a legal boxing match! No matter the out come we all win!

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    Forbes Buck says:

    i’ve been following JT ever since he chanllenged Take Two and Rockstar games to make a mod where the character is a father of a teen who basically pulls a columbine, and the character goes out and hunts down gaming CEO’s. If i remember correctly he was going to put up 10K to the chariatble orginization of choice of the CEO of Take Two. When some programmers and artists with some spare time actually did it, JT bailed and said something along the line that is was a hypothetical idea and never had any intent on paying. this is when the kick ass guys Tycho and Gabe from Penny-Arcade steped in and footed the bill. Which JT tried to retaliate against . . . . . I mean really, either the man is criminally insane or he just doesn’t get it. Viloent video games are here to stay, and there really isn’t any thing you can do, mainly cause if the majority of the demograph that take two is aiming for didn’t want them they wouldn’t sell. Which incendently they are.

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    vellocet says:

    See the issue here is not even really to stop JT from having the games declared public nuisances. The issue is that Bully should never have been given a day in court. It was ridiculous that the courts even entertained that action.

    The point that T2 is doing now is to show that that precedent is dangerous. That JT can basically go and declare any game (I’m sure he would have wanted The Sims as well) a public nuisance because they allowed the Bully case to go to court. Thereby wasting taxpayer money, people’s time, and basically that JT has hijacked the florida legal system for his own publicity stunts.

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    Gameboy says:

    So GTA4 is set to come out in 2008? In that case Take Two should just about be wrapping up thier case (they have will have alot of evidence).

    So this probably won’t bankrupt Jack, but at least it will sting him. Maybe after getting sued by a company, the people follish enough to listen to his garbage and lies will finally stop. By the way, whatever did happen to the other cases against him?

    @ James
    Only one problem with your idea. There are no other companies that could sue him! He really only attack Take Two and Rockstar. Ever heard of Jack attacking Eidos, Naughty Dog (even if just based on the name), Square-Enix or any other company? He literally attacks Take Two exclusively. They really do have a harrassement case against him.

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    GoodRobotUs ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I see JT trying to play this out as ‘It’s just the Take Two board trying to get their revenge on me for single handedly turning the shareholders against them!’

    It won’t do him any good, since this would undoubtedly get the backing of the shareholders, no holder is going to vote in favour of someone who costs them money by trying to destroy their products’ market place acceptability.

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    gs2005 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Good luck to you, Take Two Interactive, for whatever it’s worth. John Bruce Thompson is always annoying…but I doubt this will completely shut him up if they make any progress.

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    Other says:

    I don’t know why, but for some reason I just get this weird feeling that somehow Jack Thompson and Uwe Boll are the same person… I mean, they both have the same goal, after all: Profit off of the misery of gamers.

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    hilaryduffgta ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Man do i miss posting here and reading all the good jt stories but i’ll be posting prolly sometime next week around wednesday or thursday so duffy will be back in the loop!


    Lol its good to see a bunch of new people here and im sure i’ll get to know all the newbies and as soon as i can make my new screen name on the forum i’ll be posting on there too since i cant use hilaryduffgta anymore cause i dont have the password so you will see me on as…….


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    Rob Allen says:

    It’s kind of interesting that this comes so soon after the disbanding of Take Two’s board of directors, and even more interesting that Mr. Thompson takes credit for that disbanding, when it seems very likely that the new board of directors is the primary force behind this legal action against him. Who does he think he’s fooling?

    Surely I’m not the only one who’s noticed this?

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    GundamMan says:

    wow this guy should be shot for trying to get two video games banned. I mean that not as a gamer but as a rational minded human being he’s trying to censor two games because he believes them to be nuisances, this man should not be in politics he should be in a mental asylum. this country has enough problems and he picks on video games? mother of god am I the only who finds this whole idea of banning GAMES foolish and silly?

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    kurisu7885 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    “However, all costs have to be ‘reasonable’ for the action. Things like rediculous costs (hiring 28 lawyers) will not be awarded by the court. Then again, if the losing party was exceptionally unreasonable (delaying, not producing proper documents, wasting court’s time…) then the cost award will increase.”

    Which Jack has done, numerous times.

    “Only one problem with your idea. There are no other companies that could sue him! He really only attack Take Two and Rockstar. Ever heard of Jack attacking Eidos, Naughty Dog (even if just based on the name), Square-Enix or any other company? He literally attacks Take Two exclusively. They really do have a harrassement case against him.”

    Actually, Jack has also attacked Bethesda softworks and EA games over a nude mod that was made for Oblivion and over The Sims because users had made pornographic content, so there are at least two other companies

    @Forbes Buck

    Actually, he claimed it was satire, which I think is worse ,since it makes it seem like he thinks charities are a joke. And Gabe and Tycho make millions with their own charity, Child’s Play, so ten grand was likely pocket change compared to what they give, and odds are Jack wants Child’s play shut down too.

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    LightWarrior ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    It’s good to have you back. I loved reading your discussions with Yuki. Those where aways intresting comments and thought provoking as well as your sarcasim.

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    kurisu7885 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I’ll also add to my comment that he’s also attacked Id software, saying they and they alone were responsible for the Columbine shooting using Doom

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    AuToFiRE says:

    As a gamer myself, I think Jack do i put this politely… …. …a jackass, I personally play violent video games to get rid of anger, to make money, to have fun, if anything violent video games make me happier because i use it as stress relief. why shold violent video games be banned from all of us? If the parents think the violence in video games is bad for the children, let them govern their own kid and no one elses! I think video games are an expression of art, of teamwork, if you took photography in high school and looked through those books looking for ideas you would notice lots of naked women, why dont they ban that? because its art, just like video games, video games are nothing more than pictures rendered by a computer. Ive been exposed to video games all my life, im from the nintendo generation, ive seen video games evolve from black and white dots to beautifully rendered 3 dimensional graphics, i dont see a reason why Jackass Thompson should be banning something as beautiful and ecomically important to the world as video games, without them some pretty weird stuff would happen, i hypothesize that there would be no reason for faster, more powerful computers, gaming is one of the very few, if not the most important in pushing technology forward

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    […] US, March 16, 2007 – Take Two and Jack Thompson have a long history together. But usually it’s Thompson attacking the publisher, not the other way around. The Florida attorney has declared his intentions to try and block the sale of Take Two’s upcoming games Grand Theft Auto IV and Manhunt 2. The company has apparently decided it’s not going to take Thompson’s attacks lying down, and has filed a preemptive motion with the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida to silence Thompson’s complaints. GamePolitics has reported that Take Two filed its petition on March 13. The motion states that Take Two is "seeking declatory and injunctive relief against Defendant John B. Thompson, to enjoin him from bringing suit on behalf of the State of Florida to enjoin the sale of GTAIV or Manhunt 2 as a nuisance." Take Two presents this action as necessary because "Thompson has a history of making multiple threats of legal action, whether substantiated or not, both against (Take Two) as well as the retailers who purchase the video games and offer them for sale to the public. Thompson has made such threats again in connection with Manhunt 2 and GTAIV

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    Rob ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I really wish Take 2 wouldn’t lie in court filings, it weakens their case.

    “Thompson has a history of making multiple threats of legal action, whether substantiated or not,”

    When has he filed a substantiated claim?

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    Gariel Celesta ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @Rob Allen

    You have a very good point there. For a moment, I was wondering if it was in fact the new board doing this to Thompson. Apparently, the previous board never would’ve done that.

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    Mysticgamer ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    The only way this can get better is if all the businesses he’s harrassed over the years (BestBuy, Walmart, etc) joined in for a class action suit!

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    jonc2006 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    the guy has a real habit of thinking he can predict the future, the majority of his actions with the whole bully case happened before the game was even released to the public. i find this mind-numbing, even if the content of the game was obvious, or even legit for that matter, i cant see how something can be declared a public nusiance before the it has a chance to reach the public to begin with. protesting against something is one thing, trying to get it banned so that no one can get their hands on it, children or adults is just stupid. this guy is digging his own grave and i see no reason to stop him, its more funny when he finally realizes that he screwed himself so far under than to have us tell him anyway.

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    Gameboy says:

    @ kurisu7885

    I completely forgot about the Sims and Oblivion attacks. But did he actually file a suit against them? I don’t recall it if he did. Or maybe he just didn’t fall through with it like Take Two says in their complaint (it says he has a history of dismissing suits weeks after he initiates them; Page 6, Paragraph 23).

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    Automancer ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    You know, depending on how the Florida courts feel about this man is going to determine how this case turns out. From what I can see JT turns the Florida courts into a circus everytime he files suit and the court system doesn’t appreciate it. That feeling will definitely show in the ruling of this case.


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    anonymous says:

    why doesnt he try to ban smoking it does more damage then games will ever do…..

    this guy is so anoying its the gameretailers responsability to sell the games to people of legal ag and not the game publishers… and they are trying…

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    […] Take Two Sues Jack Thompson Need I say more? Take Two Sues Jack Thompson And the publisher comes out swinging with haymakers! By Dan Dormer, 03/16/2007 GamePolitics is reporting that the hunted has now become the hunter, as Take-Two has filed a lawsuit to prevent ol’ JT from meddling with and potential blocking the sale of Grand Theft Auto IV and Manhunt 2 when they release later this year. Take-Two outlines in the suit (PDF) that He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named has a history of blatantly threatening legal action (and also, losing) against publishers, developers, and retailers in the past. The legal document also goes on to state that JT is almost "a private attorney general on behalf of the State of Florida" given his attempts to censor Take-Two and Rockstar by having the games declared public nuisances. This isn’t a surprising move, given that Take-Two probably wants to streamline the legal process because you know JT would have sued them eventually. This just speeds up the process, and helps with the eventual disbarment of everyone’s favorite bark, but not bite Floridan attorney. Take Two Sues Jack Thompson news from __________________ […]

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    […] Take Two, the company that brought us Grand Theft Auto, recently sued our good friend Jack Thompson to try and stop him from having GTA4 and Manhunt 2 declared as public nuisances. The instrument they’re using is none other than the First Amendment – you know, the one about freedom of speech. […]

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    GTA FREAK says:

    if GTA IV was banned because of him , i wud personaly hunt that fucker downy and fukin drown him : ) any1 agree ? …Hmmmm anyone want to start a cult lol … anti – anti GTA

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    David B says:

    Brilliant. Hope Take 2 win (also hope their management are totally replaced and the “old family firm” is finally put behind them) these things are two separate issues, something that JT does not want us to see. Not that I *personally* approve of canis canum edit / manhunt / GTA as I hate the violence, misogeny and pure bad taste in them. But i’ll defend anyone’s right to make that decision for themselves.

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    […] For years, Take-Two Interactive has been on the receiving end of legal actions by gaming violence critic Jack Thompson. Now, though, the publisher is taking a proactive tack in its ongoing dispute with the Florida lawyer. As reported by GamePolitics, Take-Two earlier this week filed a complaint against Thompson, seeking to preempt a repeat of last year’s legal battle to keep the schoolyard action game Bully from being banned in the state. […]

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    Owlinbayern says:

    Well, first time on this forum, so here goes.

    We had the same uproar when TV dared to show nudity, violence and various other things deemed nasty or unwholesome. Cinema has been trying for decades to break the barriers of convention. So the liberals win, a watershed is introduced. The parents are the arbiters and enforcers of said watershed. The child demands a TV for their room, and the watershed is defeated, because we cannot tell the kids what to do anymore.

    The liberals defeat their own agenda…. again.

    I’ve been playing games on home computers and consoles since 1981. I’ve seen it all. I’ve played most of the controversial titles. In Britain, we had a game for the Sinclair ZX Spectrum called Death Wish III, which features MINDLESS violence. The liberals want the title removed from all shelves and a ratings system introduced. Very publicly. The publicity generated for this criminal masterpiece was phenomenal, and the game sold by the shedload!

    Liberals 0-1 Games Industry!

    I played it when I was 14, and I didn’t feel any urge whatsover to kill anyone. Amazing!

    Grand Theft Auto for PS1 received an ’18’ classification in the UK. And rightly so. It featured all the things you shouldn’t be allowed to do in real life. It was also funny and very tongue in cheek. And, surprisingly, it was aimed squarely at a generation of games palyers who had reached the age of consent. New Adults. People with the right to choose for themselves.

    By this time, I’m 28, and responsible, and gainfully employed, with no vices other than Nicotine and Alcohol. Did the game make me want to steal cars and gun people down? Nope.

    I’m sick to the back teeth of people like Jack ‘Holier than Thou’ Thompson. I agree with him in so many ways; video games rating, criminal charges against those whole sell illicit games to minors, etc. But I have to say this: Videogaming is here to stay. Videogaming is a viable entertainment media.

    The people who revolt against this new media have never played, or if they have tried to play, are frustrated at their shabby hand-eye co-ordination, or their lack of problem solving skills, or their inability to think strategically. Worst of all, they appear to have no truck with videogaming as a media because they fail to see the possibilities and are impervious to FUN!!!

    Rant made off!

    Good Afternoon.

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    The Punisher says:

    Will someone just take a bat to this fool’s head and show him what a real upset gamer will do? He thinks we’re all crazed violent psychos, someone should prove him right. Just Once.

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    Piotr says:

    I hope this will make ye olde Jack finally shut his mouth. He’s a pain in the ass for all gamers and the whole game industry. His statement of games making people violant doesn’t even has proof of being true.

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    Orpheum says:

    It’s great to see they’ve finally taken off the gloves and fought back. And ol’ Jacko can’t accuse them of being the ‘violent, evil and bloodthirsty monsters’ he claims them to be. They’re using legal, non-violent actions to shut his yap.

    Try and claim agression on this Jacky boy! :p

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    Samson Effect says:


    Actually, regarding Oblivion, I don’t think Jack ever made any mention of Bethesda Softworks in that instance; Oblivion was in fact published by 2K Games, which I believe is owned by Take Two. That’s why he went after that over that nude mod.

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    Job says:

    This guy is another over-conservative fear monger. It seems the US breeds them. Videogames don’t make people go crazy and kill people. Life does enough of that on it’s own(making people crazy).

    fight fear-mongering!

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    dipper says:

    why is gta and manhunt trageted? HAVE YOU EVER FKING PLAYING SOCOM OR GHOST RECON OR RAINBOW SIX? those games show you EXACTLY how to plan and execute murders/robberys/building take overs, ect. they show you realtime plans for what jackie boy thinks is violence.. OHHHHHHHHHHH BUT I GUESS ITS OK SINCE IN THOSE GAMES ITS THE ARMY N SUCH AYE?

    hypacritical peice of crap, thats what jack thompson is.

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    TreemanX says:

    You have to realize that the only thing Thompson loves more than attacking Take Two, is getting himself in the media. He wants his face on TV, he wants his name in the papers. The guy gets off on his exposure ever since he attacked Reno all those years ago

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    MasterAssassin ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    When I heard this I was tickled pink. This jackass has had it coming for a long time and finally he gets what he deserves. I hope TT sues for damages and sends him right into Chapter 11.

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    Ezra says:

    What I think is contriversial is the fact of Jack also trying to take Bill Gates/ Microsoft to court if they release this game on the 360 console, but mentions nothing about Playstation 3. He is personally attacking microsoft/ Xbox. Saying he will do whatever, by all means, to make sure GTA IV does not come out on the X-Box, attacks Gates, but in every referance mentions nothing about GTA for Playstation 3. They might bring that up in court as well….

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    […] That’s right! The folks over at Take-Two got a few late night “I’m gunna beat you up after school tomorrow” messages from Jack who is drooling like a fat kid in a donut shop at the prospect of them giving him more things to sue them for, so they trumped him by suing him first. (Source,, who rock btw.) […]

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    chris7 says:

    oh my hoenstly personnelly i would like to torture jack thompson. just when he gets home from work on a dark nioght. run up behind him and shock his body with a electric shocker(watever it’s ccalled thath the police carry). take a syringe and inject with a chemical to paralize him. take undergound to a plce where noone can hear us. tie him up by the legs and hag him of the ceiling. tie his armas to the floor. and take a blowtorch and fire away as stomach and dick

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    John says:

    Jack Thompson is right damnit!!
    You heard me, RIGHT!
    Because of him I play lots of video games that are violent (to see how BAD these games are). And then when I don’t slaughter 15people a day, I get MAD! I get MAD at these games and JACK for their BROKEN PROMISES! I WANNA BE A PSYCHO BUT DAMNIT THESE GAMES AREN’T DRIVING ME CRAZY!

    And that MAKES ME CRAZY! I wanna kill somebody.

    I think I should start with THE person that let me down the most. The promise maker of promise makers. The person that said “YOU TOO CAN TURN PSYCHOTIC!”.



    /starts chainsaw and starts implanted tracking device monitor.

    A hunting we will go… a hunting we will go… hi ho the dairy-o a murderous rampage on Jack Thompson we will go.

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    Lee Stricklin says:

    It’s about freakin’ time. This a**hole has been annoying the crap out of companies and gamers alike. I honestly don’t know how games can be a nuisance and I believe that if you have a problem with a game or any other form of entertainment that you just simply don’t play, watch, or read it. I also have a problem with this guy saying that games can turn you into psycho-path or make you kill people, but I know different being that I’m living proof that this theory is incorrect. I’ve been playing games my whole life, I picked up and played my first one when I was three and became a full-blown gamer by the time I was five. I’ve played some of the most violent, most controversial games ever created including: Wolfenstein 3d when I was four, Mortal Kombat when I was five, Doom when I was seven, and even the original Grand Theft Auto when I was ten and I still haven’t killed anyone or even thought about killing anyone. In my opinion, this guy is the public nuisance and is just as responsible for game-related violence as Take2 being that he’s basically telling people to blame video games.

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    mot19 says:

    To “SUM GEEZER FROM DA UK”, Jack Thompson is a lawyer who has something against video games, especially those made by Rockstar. In fact, his real name is John Bruce Thompson.

    He’s been at it since about 2002 time, and he blames virtually every killing on video games, especially GTA. It’s time for him to come to his senses. I sure hope Take 2 and Rockstar win. Mr Thompson is a moron.

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    winter10583 says:

    Take-2-Interactive has now inspired me. Ladies and gentlemen, I hope all of you realize that Mr. Thompson has essentially said that the children of our country have no free will of their own. So…for that I am going to begin planning a class-action lawsuit by gamers and the parents of gamers against Mr. Thompson for slander. Slander against their children because he’s stating that they have no free will of their own, and slander against the parents because he is accusing them of neglect and essentially calling them horrible parents. E-mail me at if you wish to be a part of this campaign.

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    GoodRobotUs ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    ‘So successful has Thompson been in exposing the fraud and criminal conduct of Take-Two on the national stage’

    Errr.. This is nothing whatsoever to do with Take Two’s financial position, nor the fidelity of its management, what the hell have they got to do with anything? If Paul Eibeler screwed up and gets booted, fine, but if Thomspon thought that would somehow stop everything that Take Two was, long before Eibeler ever joined them, then he is obviously delusional.

    So his argument against being stopped from making another two public nuisance lawsuits and wasting money is that the company he is constantly harassing has management issues?

    Not an auspicious kick-off for Thompson so far. I don’t see this suit being started if Take Two weren’t pretty sure of a positive result, they know better than to feed the troll, so I’m not letting Thompson wriggle out of this one just yet.

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    GoodRobotUs ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Well, I’d say the threat of 3 lawsuits against 3 different games in under 6 months, all games written by the same company, would be a pretty clear case of harassment anyway.

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    Binarygeek ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    it’s about time somebody finally did this, the man is a public nuisance to any video game company or gamer on the planet.

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    17-A says:

    Typical Thompson, defending his actions with unsubstantiated claims that have no bearing on the legality of those actions.

    On one hand, I think Take Two’s “preemptive strike” might work since Thompson’s case against Bully resulted in him having to show cause for why he should not be held in contempt of court (still no resolution on that, I think… speaking of which, doesn’t the Florida Supreme Court still have to rule on his misconduct complaints?). On the other hand, Bully deserved its “T” rating (instead of “M”) and some stupid judge might determine that GTAIV, which very well might receive an “AO” rating, is a different matter entirely. Overall though, I see this as one more opportunity for him to get himself disbarred and I hope I see that consequence come to fruition some time this year.

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    Gil ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    P.S., Can anyone find a pic of Jack Thompson not copyrighted by Associated Press or anyone? The Wikipedia article on him needs one.

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    ~the1jeffy says:

    At least for once someone is taking direct action against him. But let’s not get too excited yet, kiddies. Jack is a slippery devil, and I doubt he hasn’t planned for this contingency. This is a good start, though.

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    Gil ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Hahahahahaha…… ha.

    Seems they’re fighting fire with fire, with a legal team to back it up I bet.

    What can they get from him? Can he get disbarred through this?

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    DoggySpew ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Althought I applaud this pre-emptive strike against Thompson, I don’t think they’ll win.

    Unfortunately, Thompson is protected by the same First Amendment.

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    Gil ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @DoggySpew: True, Jack can rant all he wants, but taking legal action against TakeTwo is infringing on their 1st Amendment rights. It’s not the babble he spits out, but the legal action he takes while doing so.

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    Brandon ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Its about friggen time that Take Two grew a pair and took it to Thompson himself, hopefully they’ll succeed and get rid of him once and for all.

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    Wolf ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Never thought I’d say it, but kudos to Take Two for doing this. While I do not know about First Amendment rights in cases like this, what I hope is, whether they win or lose, it’ll start a domino effect, causing others to take legal action, or just initiative in general, against Thompson perhaps on other, more effective, grounds.

    I don’t know, I’m no lawyer.

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    E. Zachary Knight ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    My question is “How can a game be declared a public nuisance if it is played in private?”

    It doesn’t make since to me. As for T2’s action I applaud them. All his bogus lawsuits and Bills have been based around T2 and R* I think he was just burned because a nephew of his kicked his butt in a T2 game.

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    GoodRobotUs ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Just to add, with Thompson blathering on about Take Two’s management issues he seems to have forgotten that Rock* Take 2.

    As I understand it, this is Take 2 suing on behalf of Rockstar’s First Amendment rights, so, to be honest, the managerial status of Take 2 is moved even further back in relevance.

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    GoodRobotUs ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Damn I forgot you can’t use the ‘Not equal to’ thing. I mean Rockstar is not the same as Take 2 in the first sentence of my last post :)

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    Jabrwock ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Thompson is pretty delusional if he thinks that a new board and CEO at Take Two would ever want to disrupt the cash cow they’ve got in Rockstar… It’s TT’s most profitable product. The shareholder revolt is because of financial mismanagement. The shareholders want MORE money, better managed. So if anything, they’ll want to cut unprofitable subsidiaries, and expand Rockstar…

    Now then, I’m in favor of a pre-emptive lawsuit. TT has all the evidence it needs to prove that Thompson is engaging in a personal vedetta against the company, and had filed lawsuit after lawsuit in an attempt to bully them (ha!) into doing what he cannot compel them to by drafting laws. Thompson himself has admitted as much, and has in fact bragged about dragging them into court. He considers it a personal victory, even when the court turns his suit down.

    I doubt that the court would award court fees, but I can certainly see them ordering Thompson to refrain from filing lawsuits in a Florida courtroom for a while…

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    Jabrwock ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    With just cause though, it’s allowed. And seeing as he’s bombarded them with tons of frivolous lawsuits, the court could be persuaded to at least put some restraints on what he can file against them.

    They’ve tailored their complaint pretty narrowly too, to only limit his ability to file “public nuisance” suits against them in the state of Florida. They can also argue that his threat of a lawsuit plus his history is enough proof that he was fully intending to file one anyway, so that’s why they have to do this.

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    pix ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    so what would happen if the florida bar barred him before take 2 take him to court?

    its interesting to see just how quickly jack’s world is falling apart, he has to be worried about this even if he still acts like he is king of the world

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    GoodRobotUs ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    Yes, he always writes his Press Releases in 3rd Person. The reason is obvious. Most people don’t bother to find out the name of the author when reading news items, so they assume that it is a factual ‘News’ report, not just Thomspon blowing hot air about himself.

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    o_rangekrush ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    That is not how costs work.

    There are 2 kinds of costs awards. One based on a rather outdated fee listing and the other based on what a the client has actually paid. Neither of these have anything to do with the actual bill accumulated by the client. Think of it as getting some sort of a discount.

    However, all costs have to be ‘reasonable’ for the action. Things like rediculous costs (hiring 28 lawyers) will not be awarded by the court. Then again, if the losing party was exceptionally unreasonable (delaying, not producing proper documents, wasting court’s time…) then the cost award will increase.

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    Ace of Sevens ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Yes, repeatedly filing suits with no legal basis can get you disbarred as well as causing civil judgements like this. It’s a form of harrassment. I doubt the court sees many of these as most lawyers will at least try to preserve their careers.

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    17-A says:

    @Dan: Nice, even though I’ve seen it before. Unfortunately, the critics will want to see the statistics on juvenile offenses specifically, and will always point to school shootings as evidence of youths being corrupted. I think Michael Moore’s “Bowling For Columbine” defeated the lie just fine on its own, but no proof is ever enough for some people….

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    squigs says:

    I can see Take Two’s positition, but I’m really not at all happy with the idea that we can have prior restraint on someone filing a lawsuit.

    I certainly don’t like the idea that they could prevent him from doing something that he may not actually be planning to do (unlikely, I know, but I stand by the point) and then charge him for it.

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    Zombiehunter says:

    And so the tables turn

    what with this and the other cases against JT that are coming up I think this is going to be a bad year for Mr Thompson and I shall be laughing my ass off when he finally does get his just deserts

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    GoodRobotUs ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    They already have a letter from him stating that he plans to do it. That’s either a statement of intent or using his legal status to attempt extortion.

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    Dan says:

    The only argument you’ll ever need against the video-games-cause-violence lie…

    Number of Violent Crimes per 100,000 people in the US since 1991
    correlated with game console releases in the US.

    1991 758.1 (Super NES)
    1992 757.5 (Turbo Duo)
    1993 746.8 (Jaguar)
    1994 713.6
    1995 684.5 (PS1, Saturn)
    1996 636.6 (N64)
    1997 611.0
    1998 566.4
    1999 523.0 (GameCube, Dreamcast)
    2000 506.5 (PS2)
    2001 504.5 (Xbox)
    2002 494.4
    2003 475.8
    2004 463.2
    2005 469.2 (Xbox 360)

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    Majestic_12_x ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    He’s been asking for it, and I think he’s not gonna like the results. Based on past-precedent, they’re going to crush him like an ant.

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    morgan ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    yeah, I think you’ve got the right call on this one. TT might succeed in getting an injunction against the use of the Florida nuiscance laws against first amendment protected items (games), but I would be surprised to see them awarded costs for something Jack hasn’t done yet. Part of a preemptive injunction is that it’s preemptive, ie nothings been done yet. Sure, Jack did alot of stuff in the past, but the place to ask for that money was at those trials.

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    Dog_Welder ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @squigs —

    A couple of points to make though. Not addressed in the Bully suit (and this is where that judge really dropped the ball) is whether or not the Florida nuisance law applies to “expressive content.” Reading the law would simply suggest that it can not be applied to expressive content, nor was it designed to.

    Enter Jack Thompson, who has threatened use of this law to further harass Take Two. It makes sense for Take Two to step in and try to get a judge to say this type of behavior isn’t allowed under the Florida law. They’re also allowed their court fees to be reimbursed.

    Thomson has opened himself up to this. His failure to understand the nature of the Florida nuisance law has led to this. He is singling out Take Two / Rock Star in this behavior as he hasn’t tried tried to prevent other M-rated games from being released in Florida. That is the very definition of harassment.

    Take Two should not have to send a team of lawyers to Florida every time some knucklehead attorney thinks a game falls under the public nuisance law there.

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    Jabrwock ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    This is going to be interesting, as Thompson is guaranteed to appeal it based on his claims that all Florida judges are biased against him…

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    Wardo says:

    Definitely good to see. I’m not holding my breath for Thompson being disbarred however. Even if he is, he’ll just keep getting more vocal. You aren’t going to shut someone up like him by just stripping him of his ability to speak in court. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to suddenly see Mr. Thompson plastered all over FOX, CNN, NBC, and whatever other news network he can get his hands on during a slow news day when and if he actually gets disbarred.

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    Randalor ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Here’s hoping this causes a reverse of what alot of politicians seem to be hoping for, and causes video games to get more protection in other states because of this ruling.

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    Sean Stevenson says:

    WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO Happy birthday to me!!!!
    Rockstargames, my favorite game publisher, sued that bastard Jack thompson because he was going to declare GTA 4 a public nuisance. Thi s is one of the best birthday gifts ever. I just found out about this. I would be pissed if he got away with it because i preorder GTA4.

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    F**ked up says:

    Keep the pressure on. Constantly sue Jack Thompson because well he will to busy with lawsuits (hopefully) to spam the mass media with his crazy talk.

    I bet this affected the area of the brain in adults where they are more prone to commit violent acts.

    I wonder if he is beating up a hooker in GTA just to get his fustrations out. Therefore causing more stimulation to the violent area of the brain before going on a psycho killing spree.

    and with numerous brain scans we have found the area of the brain which we call jack thompson stupidity. Only one person has been found to have active areas of this part of the brain, in which we named this diease after. No other humans have this much stimulation in that part of the brain. Schizophrenia is a close one but not as much as this one. Therefore anyone with stimulation in this area of the brain will be locked up and never seen again.

    (if u didnt know thats basically his argument on video games)

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    Dog_Welder ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @morgan — if someone threatens you with repetitive frivilous litigation, which Jack did in press releases, you certainly can retrieve legal costs from a filed injunction. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

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    KNet says:

    Re gamedevguy: Would be funny, however not the wisest of moves. Characters that fall outside the coincidental resemblance to real life persons, especially in such a specific manner, would not be a good bargaining chip to hand over to Thompson.

    Re F’ed up: Which would then give him the ability to claim the same harrassment that T2 can currently claim against him.

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    Terminator44 says:

    Jack has had this coming for quite some time. You can only try to get 1st Amendment protected products declared a public nuisance, have a hand in writing bills ruled as unconstitutional in the courts, and make outrageous claims about games (does “pleasureable vibrations” ring a bell) for so long before T2 said “enough is enough.” Push someone long enough and they’ll start pushing back.

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    Kyle says:

    Ahhh… My favorite bible verse comes in handy for the situation. I dedicate this verse to the bloodless JT.

    Matthew 7:3-5

    3″Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

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    F**ked up says:


    I doubt he will have enough time to counter sue will being sued by everyone. Sue him for being a public nusance. Can u say harassment? Everyone probably can sue Jack Thompson for that. Maybe we can get class action suit on him for harassment. And then sue him again to cease and desist. Then hopefully the florida bar will then drop his license to practice while this is going on.

    Oh it would be so nice if this could happen.

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    ARl says:

    They should have filed suit in Florida state court to have Thompson committed to a mental institution. That would have been a more useful application of the law.

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    Timothy says:

    If he’s dinged monetarily it will be his wife who pays, but who knows, he might try to declare personal bankruptcy anyway.

    I wonder if he’s listed as a dependent on her insurance?

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    PyroHazard ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    About time.

    I think this is actually the 1st time Thompson made a pre-emptive strike against Take Two due to both games not being out yet or have ESRB ratings. It’s also the 1st time TT grew some balls and actually went forth into putting a foot in the proverbial ass of Jacko.

    There’s been a lot of changes in the industry lately, this being one of them. :)

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    Timothy says:

    He’s probably happy to be in the news, any news, again. I would be surprised if he wasn’t searching furiously for all gaming news pertaining to this, with one hand.

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    Thefremen says:

    Wow this is pretty nuts, I never thought I’d see them fight back. It’s about time they did though, JT can talk all he wants but this harrassment and obsession has gone too far.

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    Wookiee ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    As much as I dislike the guy, I really don’t want to put him and his family out on the streets. I wouldn’t wish that kind of embarrassment on other homeless people, to be associated with his kind.

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    […] GS – For years, Take-Two Interactive has been on the receiving end of legal actions by gaming violence critic Jack Thompson. Now, though, the publisher is taking a proactive tack in its ongoing dispute with the Florida lawyer. As reported by GamePolitics, Take-Two earlier this week filed a complaint against Thompson, seeking to preempt a repeat of last year’s legal battle to keep the schoolyard action game Bully from being banned in the state. […]

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    Steven says:

    Calm down everyone. Jack has the interest of the American people at hand. He only wants to protect the young and innocent children of the world. Its now time to grow up and appreciate the actions of our leaders and their will to help and promote what is good for this country. Lets all try and be a great Americans.

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    Carlos says:

    Jack Thompson will get what’s coming to him, UNFORTUNATELY he only gets whats coming to him FINANCIALLY. If only he got his ass kicked, Thats what he’s got coming to him Physically.

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    Meccamouse says:

    I hope he has a son who is found secret gta addiction,
    His wife goes Lorena Bobbitt on his ass, and he is found guilty of atleast being an asshole

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    spencer cusick of windham nh says:

    i hope jack tompson slips in a puddle of aids and falls on a jagged piece of rusty metal and it penetrates his spincter, thus giving him aids and tetnus, and he will get lockjaw from tetnus which would shut that cunt up untill he succombs to the aids. its a fucking video game you cornholing little poofter. get over it, when a kid plays it, its not like hes gonna get cancer, or liver damage, or be scarred, hes gonna enjoy himself. god forbid that. fuck you jack tompson, i hope your wife cheats on you with don knots. you faggot.

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    Ashla ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Guys guys guys, Your missing somthing rather important in all of this:

    “Take Two is also seeking to recover from Thompson its attorney fees and other costs incurred related to the pending legal action.”

    Now, given that a win for take two is a pretty sure thing considering thompsons history of attempting these bills, It’s concievable that Take two could go to exhorbitent lengths to defeat jack and transfer the cost of such to Jack upon winning.

    To the best of my knowledge, Jack isn’t part of a partnerhip or lawfirm. as such, all of his money would come from either his wife or a bank loan, niether of which could likely support jack if the cost of the trial shot up to around a few million.

    In short, Take two might be able to bankrupt the man in miami.

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    […] You may remember that last month, Take Two filed a suit against Jack Thompson. Basically, they were suing in regards to Thompson's threat to sue to block sales of GTA IV and Manhunt 2. In traditional Thompson fashion, Wacky Jacky filed a countersuit charging that Take Two had violated the federal racketeering laws. In exchange for dropping this suit against Thompson, as well as the contempt charge stemming from the Bully case in Florida, Thompson has agreed to not sue or threaten suits that would block sale or distribution of any Take Two game, not to accuse Take-two or anyone who does business with them of wrongdoing for selling games, and to make any future contact with Take Two through their attorneys. It's not a muzzle, but at least it might shut Wacky Jacky up for a while. […]

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