Gah! 'Ghost', not 'Dhost'...

(*still wishes foer edit and delete buttons*)

~_~....

First, Las Vegas politico decries Rainbow Six Vegas, then Juarez politico decries Dhost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2, and now this.

At least they understand it's nowhere near reality, but they continue to take this the wrong way. Berg, as you said, IT'S A GAME. Get over it.

Just read the article, and saw this:

"In previous incarnations, players advanced through the game by killing cops, selling pornography to children and killing prostitutes. Details of the latest version have not been released."

Sorry, but in which mission do you "sell pornography to children" - surely this is liable of the highest order and T2 should do something about it... Oh and of course, you don't 'advance' by killing cops and prostitutes.

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i think GTA just wants to make some sucess by adding the world's greatest city in their latest game, but the point about how GTA does not resemble the city's crime level accurately, your wrong, because in san andreas's Los Santos, or Los Angeles does have alot of crime and
gang type activity going on, trust me i've been living in Los Angeles
for 2 years.

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GTA4 is gonna rock. Hands down. I live in New York and I'm proud of it. :D

lol did anyone c that big billboard that sed get a life lol

Well, that's just common sense. It's not like there's ever been a crime-ridden city based on New York depicted in film, television, literature, comic books, or radio drama.

Peter Vallone needs to focus on more important things. Like catching the Joker.

I gotta agree with Brokenscope. I hate to hear people act that their political party is so superior. I don't like any politician. Too many of them lean too far to one side of the spectrum. And all they really care about is votes. Wasn't there a quote from a senator or representative about a 'Game Law' that said essentially, "This is a bad law, but I'm gonna vote for it, because It'll be brought up in my future campaigns if I don't"?

There is no one answer that fixes everything. A guy once told me that I couldnt support Englands actions in WWII and Martin Luthur King Jr (btw I'm white) because they didn't agree with each other or some BS along those lines. This statement dumbfounded me. If you play a any video game, watch any movie, read virtually any book, ask military generals, or even look at history you will learn that different promblems require different solutions. If a guy pisses you off, you walk away rather than punch him. But if that guy is raping a girl it'd be better to punch him, and then call the police.

Anyone else think it's ironic that we teach children history so "they won't repeat the same mistakes of the past", but virtually all politicians/leaders do just that?

Oh yes, this is all the fault of the dirty conservatives.

BULLSHIT

Take off your blinders you some of you so conveniently throw up every time a "conservative" does some thing fucking stupid remember that a "liberal" just as far on the other side of the spectrum would do the samething or something just as stupid.

Neither party is a really the industries friend. both parties only give a fuck about votes. Get that through your skull. If there is a cultural whipping boy the only question is which party is hitting it harder.

God sometime you people piss me off.

If you don't support GTA IV, why are you issuing press-releases about it? He CLEARLY supports game that allow you to kill police officers. He is exploiting his station to get these games free publicity, thus allowing the trend to continue so that he'll have something to place.

Nasty.

Hey, UnBiased is kind of like Conservapedia.

"WE'RE NOT BIASED, LIBERALS ARE EVIL!"

"I'M NOT BIASED, GAMEPOLITICS IS EVIL!" Or whatever. I dunno what word would be good besides "evil."

Wow. The fact that government officials are freaking out about this is shocking, if it wasn't for the fact that lots of government types are freaking out about a lot of stuff lately. I wonder how these government types feel about movies taking place in their cities? Its not like San Fransisco's mayor freaked out over The Rock.

I just want to say this:

Cortana: "...Chief, why did the mouse have to die?"
M.C.: "Sorry. My sniper scope needs cleaning. Thought he was a grunt."

@UnBiased

You say we wish Take-Two would vanish?....

There's only one person who really does wish that, and he's not allowed to come here.

I wonder who this UnBiased guy really is?...

n.n() Oh man. Maybe they don't realize this simple fact: The more of a fuss they make over the game...the more appealing the game becomes.

"What is that you say? This game is pissing off politicians in New York? Awesome it must be one hell of a game if they are so fired up about it."

I heard that in GTA IV you will be able to get points for crashing planes into tall buildings, is this true?

Okay anon. Who told you that? Rockstar is just begging to have politicians on both sides of the atlantic destroy the industry. They keep getting closer and if what you said then, anon, has been published it's a good indication of things to come.

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New York is actually the safest big city in the country. Crime rates are down across the board, and we're seeing 'dangerous' neighborhoods getting gradually safer.

People should dig a little deeper before saying things, especially since NYC is safer than all of the major cities in overall crimes. Check it out maybe...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City

Someone needs to get working on a Disneyland map for Halo CE. NOW. I would, except I know nothing about making HCE maps.

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looks like the parent groups strike(get to the politicians) again!...why cant tragedies like plane crashes accidentally hit these groups when they are in conference planing to build their anti-free speech death star?

*sigh*I think the terrorists have already won....

Halo in Disneyland?

Sign me up, I hate Disney, especially after seeing what they did to Huck Finn.

Thanks, NYC, for the free media attention for GTA IV
Anyone who's played any of the GTA III series knows it's all bullshit so who cares? People who will never play it can think what they want, they are the people who do these 'things' in real life. The game is based on corrupt mayors like that so it's the best GTA advertisement I've ever seen!

Law & Order: SVU is set in New York City, by their logic it will inspire all sorts of copycat crimes. Where's that outcry?

This is not a crisis and Take-two is not hiding from anyone. Why doesn't gamepolitics just write an editorial already about their hatred for this company and how you wish they would disappear. This is nothing more than the rantings of politicians that hardly deserve a response.

From now on gamepolitics needs to have a full disclosure section below every take-two report that explains their hatred and bias towards them because this is ridiculous already.

I suppose the whole comment about Halo in Disneyland made me see something interesting. There are ways in which it is possible to have loads of death and destruction, and for it to be funny.

Look at it this way, how many people per week used to watch South-park. And almost every week Kenny would be decpatiated and/or die in a multitude of Gruesome, and yet comic ways.

Now, I'll admit that GTA IV looks less tongue-in-cheek than Southpark, though Halo in Disneyland might be closer to the mark, GTA 3 was also a lot less 'gory' than most people made it out to be, like 'stomping people until they are a smear on the pavement', which actually means 'Keep kicking the model until the engine stops rendering it and only displays the blood textures on the floor.'. Of course, that doesn't sound nearly as sensationalistic or appealing to the average reader, and doesn't paint the right 'picture'.

'The mayor does not support any video game where you earn points for injuring or killing police officers.' - Well lots of people have pointed out the obvious flaw here, but I should also point out that a statement of mayoral approval is not required in order for such a game to exist, and that the game, if it follows recent GTA tradition will punish you heavily for doing so. I don't doubt that AI has improved dramatically since GTA:VC, and with recent political opinion what it is, I see Rockstar pursuing options not for taking content out of the game, but more based around making sure that reactions are more 'realistic'. That said, if they put all the Policemen in bright purple rabbit-suits, I suppose there would never have been an outcry in the first place.

Anyone else find it ironic that one of the major complaints about GTA 3 onwards was the point at which it different most from 'actual' reality, i.e. The police force's reaction to having one of their own people shot?

This looks like a great game to go wandering in to be honest, I'm not a big fan whatsoever of GTA's gameplay, but I do like games like Oblivion and Gothic 3 where you can just go and look at the scenery for a while :)

This type of stuff upsets me.This,my freinds,is the begining of the type of governemnt where the governement controls everything in the united states.People rally around innaccuracys that the governenment deliberatly puts there.Also,give me a pic in the trailer,where you even have a weapon of any kind.This is gonna be Gta.This is in my state,and im not worried some dumb fuck will get a shotgun and fuck up people.

Take-Two's "duck and cover" PR strategy is unsurprising, given that controversy is as good as free advertising. I wouldn't really expect them to correct every reporter or politician that says something with no factual basis at all about the game. It'd take a lot of effort and they wouldn't really get anything out of it.

I'll add my two cents.

Selling Pornography to children in GTA3. You can't do ANYTHING to childen in GTA, because they don't exist. There isn't a child model in the game.

There was a point where you sold drug out of an ice cream truck in Vice City. However, your customers were all adults. No kids in site.

Aside from the libel, this report isn't worth the comment rage its getting.

The Mayor certainly doesn't have to support it. That's frankly one of the most innocuous statements a poltician can make. George H.W. Bush didn't "support" broccoli in the white house, and that didn't effect anyone but his house guests. If the mayor is outraged enough to spend enough time to make public and specific statements, then, we the gaming community should be atleast this outraged. A relayed spoke's person statement published on the weekend is as meaningful as having a friend break up with your girlfriend for you and give her a rose to say you're sorry.

I very much hope T2 has a statement.

I know its all about the money but come on. There should be a little integrity here. At least the smallest interest in turning around the constant social demonization of the product and its enthusiasts.

Jesus, the politicians never cease to amaze. They're even more stupid than they look! This article makes me want to kill somebody.

Here's the fix for your head, repeat until:

IT-IS-A-FUCKING-VIDEO-GAME!!!!1

I got sniped by Dopey?!

"Grand Theft Auto IV, has little in common with reality."

Well, Duh. I know that GTAIV will be fictional. If they wanted to base it on reality they should have used that John Carpenter documentary "Escape from New-York".

Also, last time I checked, America is a continent not a country. New-York might be the safest big city in the United States but I'm sure a few big cities in Canada are safest.

A lot of people here may know that I campaign actively in assorted zombie rights campaigns. When Resident Evil 4 was announced, the zombie rights community was similarly up in arms - "This game, much like its predecessors, encourages the player to take part in violent and illegal acts against the zombie population!" Boy, imagine our collective surprise when there were no zombies to be found at all - it was quite embarassing for us, being so upset over nothing (though to my knowledge relations are still troubled between Capcom and the Spanish-speaking parasitic-mind-control population.)
Moral 1: Don't jump to conclusions. While I'd be surprised if the violence was toned down, they might tinker with the system a little bit. Maybe make the police less forgiving somehow. Hell, they can get rid of the prostitutes entirely for all I care - I don't recall them serving any function and I wouldn't miss them.
Moral 2: It's a game. My brain is still somewhat reeling from the concept of a game "unleashing a murderous rampage." I'd expect a headline like that from Weekly World News, perhaps, but I would imagine the NY Daily News would do a somewhat better job.

You know, usually this kind of garbage out of the mouth of politicians upsets me. Today I didn't even have the energy to be aggravated. Its all the same stuff, over and over again, and it wears you down until you don't have the energy to care anymore. That's sad because these kind of attacks on a specific kind of media for behavior accepted in all others is the worse kind of hypocrisy and should upset people. And the worst part about this particular situation is that the trailer that was just released only showcases on thing -- the improved graphics. It displays none of the real content or game-play. So now politicians aren't just being inaccurate about what is in a game -- they are inventing what they think will be in the game. It's disgusting.
I am continually disappointed in T2. Silence is not the answer in the face of these kinds of inflamatory statements. I wonder often how different the world's outlook on video games might be right now if T2 had just stepped up and defended itself the first time someone spewed lies and inaccuracies about their product. Even now, years and many lawsuits later they refused to step up and do just that, and the entire gaming community has to suffer through this nonsense because of it.
I think the industry, and especially T2 needs to re-think this passive stance they have had. They need to get out there and correct the misconceptions that politicians and others have spewed across America and the rest of the world. It needs to be made clear to the public that video games are no more violent that their predecessors. Movies and books have a long standing history of as much or more violence that we see in video games. And video games don't hold a candle on violence to some paper-and-dice games I've seen.
Just like other forms of media, games cater to a large category of different tastes. Some people prefer their games less violent, some more. Just like some people favor violent horror / thriller movies, and some don't, or some people like violent fiction and some don't. It's all supposed to be dictated by the tastes and maturity of the consumer, or in the case of a minor the discretion of their parents. It's time that the industry tried to make this clear to the public.

Just my thoughts.

Miang

MGS 2 was released a mere two months after 09/11/2001, yet nobody batted an eye when (towards the end of the game) Arsenal Gear crashed into lower Manhattan and tore a path through several city blocks before coming to rest right *on top* of Federal Hall (a stone's throw away from where the Twin Towers had just fallen).

Now T2 releases a GT 4 trailer that depicts absolutely no violence and presents NYC in the best possible light (NYC has never looked so clean and safe!), and everybody is all up in arms about it. WTH!??

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there was anything wrong with what they did in MGS 2 -- I just think it's funny how one potentially inflamatory (on a national scale) event (the MGS 2 scene) goes unnoticed but an entirely harmless one (the GT 4 trailer) gets everyone worked up for no good reason.

Maybe they should be more concerned about city employees killing people than a game with a bizarro version of NYC.

Ridiculous. I hope politics make me laught again.

Well yes they are idiots mainly due to the fact that they wont pay attention to true crime (ok game but meh could of been better) besides they prolly think that "oh well we cant complain about those games cause adults play them" "but we can complain about grand theft auto cause only children that are 3 to 5 years old play that"

beyond idiots

Michael Bloomberg plays Halo?
Awesome!!!!!

Mhmmm but obviously they didnt mind "True Crime 2" to be set in New York... not a fictional city based on NY, set IN NY, but the GTA series is "ohhh so eeeeevil" it seems... one word, idiots

so what about old swat games & other polics enforccement games, its VERY rare u get bollocked for shooting a criminal too many times or even when they surrender.... whats the difference, Police Brutality or Criminals being brutal??

Libel- false defamation of character printed with malice.

False- untrue ("selling pornography to kids, or advancing in the game by killing cops")

Defamation- ruining of character ("advancing by killing cops and prostitutes" false statements like these do defame the game)

Malice- intent to harm (politicians hate this game and will make the game seem as violent and horrible as possible to stop people from buying it)

To me, this looks like libel, and t2 should sue over this. They need to run some damage control and show people that GTA isn't as violent and explicit as everyone thinks.
BTW Halo. Disneyland. Awesome.

Earn points for killing cops?
...Points?
I can't recall the last game I played that had 'points'.

“The mayor does not support any video game where you earn points for injuring or killing police officers.”

Ef the mayor or his publicist that put out this statement!!!! It is blatantly obvious that no one has played any of the games in the GTA franchise. Points for killing police officers, I think these idiots are attributing gaming with all gaming like in the 70s and 80s fear over D&D. The game play has changed but the chest pounding hasn't. Where's the fear over paintball guns? We dont have Hillary or anyone else attributing gun violence with kids who paintball. In short, ef off, play the darn games before you condemn them.

Here's what I sent the NY Daily News:

*****

Subject: Please retract this misinformation

From "Pols rage as vid game takes shot at city":

"In previous incarnations [of the Grand Theft Auto series], players advanced through the game by killing cops, selling pornography to children and killing prostitutes."

This statement is false on several counts. At no point in any Grand Theft Auto game does any character "sell pornography to children." More to the point, children do not even appear in any Grand Theft Auto game, except as occasional, inoffensive voices in radio ads.

Moreover, while the player does have the option to battle to the death with both cops and prostitutes, doing so has the opposite effect of "advancing through the game." Attacking prostitutes results in angry cops. Attacking said cops results in many more angry cops. (If the player persists, the military eventually shows up with tanks and F-16s.)

Misinformation about Grand Theft Auto is nothing new, but the truth is better any day. Somewhere out there, a real scumbag is actually[ selling pornography to children, and bogus stories about fictional scumbags just cloud the truth, distract from real-life problems, and harm the public's trust in mainstream journalism.

Please reword the article to be more truthful.

Just for kicks here is something I've noticed....

1)GTA IV takes place in a city earily similar to NY
2)Council Man Peter Vallhone said it is like placing Halo in Disneyland
3)Halo is made by Bungie
4)Bungie made the Marathon Trilogy
5)There is a mod map for Marathon Infinity where you are shooting it up in Disneyland.

I never played any GTA (I am not into shooters like GTA that much) and any news I ever hear about GTA are from this site or friends that play it. Reporters never play GTA and they must get their stories from better sources than "their friends".
How come I am more well informed about what GTA is and isn't than reporters, politicians, and lawyers. Since when did they skipped the investigation part that their job highly requires?

But knowing that you can sell pornography to childrens in the game, I MUST buy a copy of it.

And Halo in Disneyland, hhmmm, I could snipe you while ridding a roler coaster, you would never see me coming. Halo developers, please make that map downloadable from Xbox live I beg of you.

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!

IT'S A GAME - NOT REAL - LIKE A MOVIE - GET A LIFE!!!!!

enjoyed Streets of LA, and NY version for an European, kinda go like a tourist there, with a mission.

i think, if T2 uses NY like model for the new GTA, they should enjoy-it like free commercial, from movie, it seams graphics will be really good, no better way to sell NY world (even in game mode) then this way (i really think NYC should observe game phenomenon like a promo option too, not that NY misses tourists or something, but hack , free commercials is for them nothing to lose, is a win/win stand-up, of course, if game is getting violent and all that, ratting is a must, and keeping kids out from playing-it goes on parents shoulders... read that rating label before u give your kid something if you care about him or stop nagging the rest)

and for politicians, better deal in really problems you were elected to take care of, then smoking out publicity stunts like this just to get some attention and btw. i think you better take care of educating parents in dealing with kids or support consequenscins

@ Dick Butterworth

What you said was clearly trolling. I don't want the have a huge flame war but thats what it was.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE .... someone make a mod of
HALO at Disneyland!!!!!!!!!!!

I grew up here in New York, and spent the last 10 years traveling the country, living in most of its major cities. When I was young, it was dangerous, and if you were stupid, you paid. The only place I have had my car broken into was peace and love crazed San Francisco. The only place I saw crack smoked on the street in front of my house? San Francisco. I am now back in NYC, and I do not feel the need to even lock my doors. It is a police state here, and all of you nice people from Kansas can now live here and continue to drive up our rents.
Politicians comment on this shite because of the lemmings approach: someone else is doing it. If another politician says something inflammatory, and you do not also comment, you look negligent. Without a doubt, if in November, 3 police get killed, there will be at least one idiot linking it directly to this game, and then the mayor and everyone else can say "I told you so." If they say nothing, rivals will chirp "The mayor ignored this menace!"
And that is why they are "outraged." So outraged... notice that the comment from the mayor is actually from a representative. There wasnt some press conference held.
Fucking press. uhk.

“In previous incarnations, players advanced through the game by killing cops, selling pornography to children and killing prostitutes. Details of the latest version have not been released.”

Huh, last time I played any of my GTA games, I didn't remember selling porn to children, or advancing by killing cops. Huh, whoever wrote that is an idiot, plain and simple.

Safest city in America? ...Do you guys even remember what happened to you guys six years ago?

Safest city? What's this mayor smoking? (Marion Barry anyone?)

Let's not forget the violence in the Spiderman movies, or for that matter how about.....

ESCAPE FROM NY? Where they turned the "Safest" city into a penal colony?

they're really reaching this time.

Lulz you got slashvertised.

What about the Midnight Club series?

The whole thing was street racing through different cities. I doubt they approve of that. Yet no one said a word.

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I would totally play halo at disneyland. That would rock. Varied terrain, castles, semi-urban environments. It would be great.

In GTA1, a decade ago, you earned points for killing cops. I honestly can't remember whether you did in GTA2 too. In GTA3, Vice City, and San Andreas, your points became money and you only earned them when somebody gave you cash. Killing a cop in a modern GTA results in two things: Not getting shot by that cop any more, and causing two more to grow in its place.

Few games punish you for being bad like GTA. The reason they are so much fun is *because* your actions have consequences. The joy in the games lies in triggering a major incident and screaming through city streets in a stolen sports car while special agents try to run you off the road and use you as a mobile ammo storage unit. It is the anarchic thrill of seeing just how much damage you can cause before the inevitable happens. If they make the police force even better, get rid of the respray shops or reduce your ability to lose the fuzz, GTA would *improve*.

I popped in GTA 1 and went to the map and Liberty City is RIGHT WHERE NYC would be. Vice CIty is Florida and San Andreas is in California.

Dick,

Today’s headline:

“GTA4 Trailer Outrages NYC Pols – Honeymoon Over for New Take Two Owners”

Title of the sourced article:

“Pols rage as vid game takes shot at city”

Quotes from the sourced article:

“And outraged political leaders say the rampant brutality of the game, Grand Theft Auto IV, has little in common with reality.”

“"It's despicable to glamorize violence in games like these, regardless of how far-fetched the setting may be," said Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly.”


Andrew Eisen

"Grand Theft Auto IV, has little in common with reality."

Well DUH thats the whole point

I've been counting down the days to the release of the trailer and am now considering hibernating until the game comes out :P

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks Halo in Disneyland would be a cool idea.

Perhaps if these safety campaigners actually played the game they might realise that it's actually pretty harmless entertainment, and shooting at the police is discouraged.

So CSI:NY is ok, but this isn't? Yeah ok...

I'm still waiting for my game to count up all those points that I got for "killing" all the police and Prostitutes.
They are just picking on Take-Two for no reason, because there were a number of other games that did just that (as named by a previous poster).

Halo in Disneyland? I'll be sniping on top of Cinderella's Castle =P

Look, the whole reason why the game is getting this kind of mistreatment is because of one thing- It's set in New York, and the city isn't getting a dime for it unlike if a movie or television program was filmed there. However, stating that openly would make them look like money grubbing goombas so they take the tired and ignorant wild exagerations of gameplay routes.

It makes them look better because they are now... all together now:
"Doing it for the children!"

I won't be surprised if these people would think the game is the best thing since sliced bread and gain a case of "selective lockjaw" if the city got a cut.

"Setting Grand Theft Auto in the safest big city in America would be like setting Halo in Disneyland."

Safest big city my skinny white butt. Hell, the whole idea of running people over in taxi cabs came from walking down the streets of New York. You're not fooling anyone.

Is it just me or does Halo in Disneyland actually sound like a pretty fun mod? I mean, chokepoints and sniper roosts ftw!

Anyone remember that Campari ad (featured heavily in "The People vs. Larry Flynt" where Rev. Falwell describes his first sexual experience as occurring with Mom in an outhouse? Ya, I think that Halo at Disneyland is more like that. And we all remember how that movie (and history) turned out.

There they go with the "Points for killing cops and hookers" thing again. I can't wait to get this I'll get 4 copies 2 for each system.

"Setting Grand Theft Auto in the safest big city in America would be like setting Halo in Disneyland."

I've been to New York, and trust me, Brooklyn isnt close to pleasantville

Just thinking, all RockStar have to do is create one paragraph in the manual saying 'This game is set in an alternate universe where public transport is still at 1970-80's stages, but medical knowledge can completely re-assemble a human being from just a few cells. It is impossible for anyone to die, why do you think you wake up in a hospital after being hit by a rocket launcher? Why do you think the person you shot 20 minutes ago was driving the car you just stole?

I.e. Point out the blatantly obvious to the deliberately blinkered ;)

They would have set it in Glasgow, but that's only just down the road, and the last thing they wanted was an invasion of irate weegies ;)

Basically, if you want to find something to take offence at, you will, this isn't about the game, it's about the fact it's GTA, it could have been set anywhere, anyhwhen, anyhow, and you can be sure that politicians would have found an excuse to take offence.

To be honest, they are getting very very predictable, dull and boring.

"Setting Grand Theft Auto in the safest big city in America would be like setting Halo in Disneyland."

Halo. In Disneyland. *gets evil grin, but is not sure why*

...Anyway, what drives me nuts more than anything, more than the ridiculous claims that you "advance" (instead of getting screwed over) by killing cops, or that you sell pornography to children in the game, is the fact that the mayor here is talking about "earning points" for doing stuff like that.

Newsflash, world: Most serious games do not involve earning "points" any more, with the obvious exceptions of sports games, experience points in RPGs, and X360 Achievement Points. "Points" in the sense of early arcade games like Pac-Man or Galaga are nearly dead. The goal of a game is, more often than not, just to make it to the end. In GTA, you do not earn "points" for killing police officers. (Unless Rockstar puts in an Achievement in GTA4...*shudders*)

Also: I'm tired of people describing GTA as "ultraviolent". God of War is ultraviolent. Manhunt is ultraviolent. GTA is only as violent as you make it, and the *required* amount of violence for finishing the game is, as far as I know, relatively tame compared to some games out there. (However, I've only played one of the games once, and somewhat briefly. Correct me if I'm wrong about this.)

I think I know where the selling-pornography-to-children thing came from. The NY Daily News must have caught a few of He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named's statements about Take Two's sales of GTA (with Hot Coffee) on the radar, and misinterpreted them as referring to actions in the game itself.

@Rich The only selling porn mission was Dildo dodo in vice City where you distributed movie flyers, and never has the game depicted kids except for voices on the radio, and the closest kid model was the midget, I'm sorry, "little person" in GTA San Andreas

"Setting Grand Theft Auto in the safest big city in America would be like setting Halo in Disneyland."

No it wouldn't. I'm surprised, almost no one but the person who likely shat bricks over this trailer would talk like this.

Honostly its not the Game editors or producers fault for children viewing or playing this game Its the parent or guardians FAULT. Its illegal for minors to purchase ADULT rated games, maybe becuase on the front of those types of games in big bold letters it say Mature Content , Gang Vilence, Drug Content, Strong sexual content, And Adult language. the game was not intended or recamended for anyone under 18 and some states 21. purchasing a game like this is no different from a violent movie or pornography so why purchase it for a child if the cover also advertises violence and weapons. Not the game industries fault the so called "RESPONSIBLE PARENTS" fault.

Maybe he said the whole "Halo in disneyland" thing to express his enthusiasm about the game :D After all, Halo: disneyland would totally rock! And He knows it!

The point they are trying to make, indirectly, is that it is better to kill real people than people in games (i can imagine lots of ppl play games to let off some steam).

Who cares that its situated in new york? we just need a sandbox city, it has no deeper thought behind it, they act like its a conspiracy against NYC, like putting it in bad daylight or something. Its a big political trick to get some media attention. They should focus on more important things, like sorting the whole F'in out of control nation they run, out!

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Maybe he said the whole “Halo in disneyland” thing to express his enthusiasm about the game :D After all, Halo: disneyland would totally rock! And He knows it!

The point they are trying to make, indirectly, is that it is better to kill real people than people in games (i can imagine lots of ppl play games to let off some steam).

Who cares that its situated in new york? we just need a sandbox city, it has no deeper thought behind it, they act like its a conspiracy against NYC, like putting it in bad daylight or something. Its a big political trick to get some media attention. They should focus on more important things, like sorting the whole F’in out of control nation they run, out!

this is a stity site

what the fuck is this site all about i was looking for porn of you mamma

YO!!! This game comes out tonight at 12o clock!Cant wait!Theres so many rumers
going around but ill find out tonight! Im so excited

Errr! Shrouded by the dark side politics are! GTA 4 Apr.29 O8! CANT WAIT!!!!!!

Yoda is right.

GTA 4 floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee.

Hey I Have Some New INFO Like in sanandreas all u have 2 do is shoot and do a driveby but in GTA4 u have 2 actually go up 2 the drivers window and punch it or shoot the window out befor u can start shooting! But if u just go into the car and shoot then the glass will ricoshea, or u have 2 waste a couple of bullets to actually break the window so u have 2 break the window befor u go into the car the graphics engine is great I recomend this game for any one !!!! Please any one write back!

Some one should make the halo in Disney land mod and send it to the stupid mayor. GTA is Rated M for mature so if you don't like it fuck off its that simple. These fags who steal instead of run things need to bitch about things like the unlawful war in Iraq or starving children not games.
By the way fuck the police they shoot, tazer and/or kill innocent people every day and they also arrest people and lock them away for a long time for weed but theres a fucking liquor store on every corner.

Brilliant - I'm a brit and I've been playing GTA4 for a while now. I'd LOVE for a future GTA to be set in London or Manchester. 

Some of the Halo/Disney references are awesome.

Its mental that these politicians are so concerned about a fictional game and don't seem to care about real life issues. I bet they play GTA4 when they're supposed to be working on climate change legislation "From Home"