Rush Limbaugh Discounts Game Violence Angle in VA Tech Rampage

April 18, 2007 -
Conservative pundit Rush Limbaugh downplayed the video game violence angle while discussing the Virginia Tech tragedy with his radio audience yesterday.

The discussion began when a caller to Limbaugh's program said:
I'll bet my last dollar in my pocket, that this shooter will be found to have been a compulsive video gamer, and when people are living that kind of lifestyle - and college students do this a lot.

Limbaugh, however, nixed that idea at some length in his response and subsequent comments:
Not every video gamer goes out and murders 33 people on the college campus though.  There's more to this than that... it may desensitize people, but it doesn't turn everybody into mass murderers...

People have a tough time accepting a relatively simple explanation for something of this scale.  But how many people are playing video games out there? How many millions of people play video games, and how many millions of people have guns? 

If you start blaming the video games, you may as well demand video game control because it's the same thing when you start trying to blame guns for this.  You have here a sick individual, an evil individual who committed a random act.  But if you want to start blaming the video games, this guy was this or that, weeeeell, then you've gotta maybe talk about banning them because that's the same tack that's taken with guns. 

Full transcript here.

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i don't always agree with Limbaugh, but this is one issue we see eye to eye on.

it isn't the games that break people. to paraphrase Seanbaby: this guy wasn't out making videos about how rainbows make kittens happy before he got his hands on a copy of Doom.

"Now you’re in a corner, your back to the wall and a 200lbs man in front of you with the barrel of a glock 19 pointed at your head about 6 feet away."

"What would you do when a CRIMINAL (you know, those guys who break the LAW) points a banned gun at you and threatens your life?"

Those examples are just scare-mongering. If a guns pointed at your head like that nothing is going to save you, not even your own armory of every single type of gun in existence. If guns were banned, the chances of said 200lb man having a gun would be greatly reduced. Of course in the end it's the same thing if its a gun at your head or a knife at your throat, you're already caught.

Legalised guns just makes it easier for them to point guns at your head.

"What if a security guard was allowed a gun on VT’s campus? Why, he just might have been able to save 32 people’s lives, give or take a few depending on reaction time."

What if Cho couldnt get hold of a gun because they werent legal? Maybe he would have taken a knife instead. If he had used a knife, I doubt that 32 people would have died.

Guns don't kill people. They just make it much much easier.

"There’s no reason to make that argument, because it’s statistically unlikely that a college student never plays video games. "

Well, maybe I said it badly, so I reformulate : there is no proof that video games played any role at all. First because what we know about the killer goes far beyond an eventual exposure to violent media. Second because no game is targeted yet. The "Washington Post" had a paragraph in one article that referred to "Counter-Strike", but this paragraph has been removed with no explanation (I learnt it there : http://news.firingsquad.com/news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=15112 )

....

Whoa.

As I was reading this article, I kept waiting for the punchline at the end, where Rush would sum up his theories to be 'Video games didn't make him evil. He was evil because he was a Democrat!'

Great, the ONE person we have on our side is THIS guy.

Click your heels twice and say "There's no place like home" three times. Hopefully that should get you back to your home dimension where Dr. Phil is just an overpaid talking head, and Rush Limbaugh hates everything that isn't himself or the president.

Actually, considering that this is a gaming site, "Use the Astral Amulet at the point where you originally crossed over" would be a little more appropriate.

Well, they are the first and second amendment for a reason.

Whose Rush Limbaugh?

Jack Thompson, Dr. Phil, and Rush Limbaugh...

What do those three names have in common besides the fact that they’re overpaid talking heads? Well, two of them have placed the blame for the Virginia Tech massacre squarely on videogames while one of them dismissed the idea and it may not be th...

@ jakethe8lf

Rush Limbaugh is a conservative radio talk show host.

"However, I think there is one argument he didn’t use : there is no proof at all that the killer played video games (not even “violent” ones). "

There's no reason to make that argument, because it's statistically unlikely that a college student never plays video games.

...

...wait. Wait, wait a minute here.

Dr. Phil was bashing videogames before we even found out the identity of the shooter, and now Rush Frikkin' LIMBAUGH is cautioning a common sense approach to the subject?

When, exactly, did I fall into this alternate universe, and how do I get back?

While appearing positive to me at first glance - i mean isn't it nice to hear that someone obviously understands that "xxx made him do it" logic is fatally flawed -though Rush's own logic is completely flawed and the whole angle only used to further his own agenda/opinion about guns. The flaw being some might ask?

Easy, neither videogames nor guns MADE this guy kill all those people.
Unlikely videogames he USED guns though to accomplish the deed. I very much doubt that him entering the building armed with a a few videogames would have caused so many casualties.

Rush Limbaugh standing up for us? Actually, I was more shocked by some of the OTHER callers (read the full transcript). One said this guy was taught to hate America by his "liberal professor." Another kept bringing up Al-Queda in a completely unrelated discussion. What? The? Hell?

How ironic it is for Limbaugh to be the sanest voice on his show.

I never expected to think something "positive" about Rush Limbaugh...

However, I think there is one argument he didn't use : there is no proof at all that the killer played video games (not even "violent" ones). There is no proof that violent media played any role at all. And what we already know about his personality (his writings, his lonesome temper, his anger...) goes far, far beyond media violence.

Rush Limbaugh was the last person I was expecting to hear a reasoned, sensible and reserved opinion from on anything, let alone this kind of thing.

Im shocked...maybe he is only 99.5% scum after all....

Chuma,
That's pretty much his concern. At least that's what it sounds like.

He knows, at least on some level, that where there is one goomba blaming one thing and demanding regulation and/or restrictions, that something else can be blamed by another person and demand regulation and/or restrictions. As much as he probably wants to blame video games and have them regulated, he obviously knows that guns could be treated in the same manner. And that's something he probably doesn't want to happen.

Nightwng2000
NW2K Software

I have yet to see any mention at all that this guy played video games, let alone that he was addicted to them, or that the games were violent.

In fact according to the BBC - "Neighbour Abdul Shash described Cho as "very quiet, always by himself", and said he spent a lot of time playing basketball and would not respond if someone greeted him.".

It seems obvious what must be done - ban basketball.

Not sure I follow his logic there. Seems more like he's using the video game angle to push an agenda to keep guns.

@Terminator44 -- I haven't listened to Rush in over a decade, and you have to keep in mind the guy in an entertainer, but he also isn't the fire-breathing demon the left makes him out to be. It's okay to occasionally agree with someone you normally wouldn't on those occasions he makes sense. There have been one or two occasions in the past few years where I've actually agreed with Nancy Pelosi on a couple of things. Imagine the shock!

The more facts that I see coming out about the shooter, the more I'm convinced this guy was seriously messed up in the head. THAT'S why he snapped. Maybe video games helped provide a disconnect (which would be no different than the movie "Taxi Driver" providing inspiration for John Hinckley), but this guy had issues to begin with. Also...we don't know that he was a gamer yet. That's one thing that hasn't come out in all of this.

He didn't use videogames as an excuse to defend guns, he realized that his defence of guns is the same as teh defence of videogames, and that anti-videogame zealots use the same kind of langauge anti-gun zealots do.

dear Wolfiej,

If you outlaw guns, than only outlaws will have them.

You people are idiots. You realize that it's the liberals who want to ban your games, not conservatives. Holy crap. Do a little research. You know nothing about your own political party.
 
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