"It’s so sad. These massacre chasers — they’re worse than ambulance chasers — they’re waiting for these things to happen so they can jump on their soapbox."
~ Jason Della Rocca

Ouch. That's gotta hurt. Then again knowing JT he's already sent an email to Dennis declaring his victory over the "liberal media" by exposing their "true colors". Probably condemned GamePolitics as being in the pocket of the "Columbine simulators" developers. Then something about being a Soldier or Satan, er... I mean, God.

"The news media are increasingly owned by entertainment companies. Liberals who infest both worlds don’t want you to think that adult-rated entertainment, containing violence and sex, has any behavioral consequences…"
~John (Jack) Bruce Thompson (big surprise eh?)

Should I be outraged by HIS bias, or should I laugh at his stupidity? The whole idea that any form of media can make and mold people into killers, or anything for that matter, is just ridiculous. I will not say that a game/movie/book/etc can't influence a crime. People could view a form of media and then commit a crime in the same or a similar manner. That does not mean they wouldn't have commited a crime, or the same crime, anyway. They would probably just do so in a different manner.

And like it has been pointed out multiple times (even during a television interview with Jack), as game sales have increased, youth crimes and violence has decreased.

As many previsious posters have said, It is very sad that anyone would use this tragedy to further their own agenda. The idea that he was waiting for such an event to happen is more than just sickening, it is morally reprehensible. And this coming from a "man" who claims to follow Jesus.

@ Rob
I completely agree.

@ eXm
Only in his own twisted little mind.

just watched the interview between Thompson and David Gregory, and i still love the "kids brought guns to school with them for 300 years" line......does somebody want to tell him that the country is only a little over 200 years old? and that for the past 100 years or so people have not been bringing guns to school to shoot dinner for their families

It seems to me like MSNBC was largely motivated by the opportunity to take a crack at Fox News.

@the1jeffy and Gray17:

The Washington Times is the conservative-leaning newspaper in the District. It was founded in 1982 by Unification Church leader Sun Myung Moon as "a Conservative alternative to the Liberal Washington Post".

The Post (like the New York Times) is one of the media outlets accused of the "liberal media bias".

Just thought I would clear that up. Absolutely no harm (or flaming) intended.

It is a shame that someone uses a tragedy like this to push their own political agenda. Not that I'm surprised it came from Thompson, because his basis for survival seems to be using tragedy to further his floundering career. Makes me angry enough being on a campus hundreds of miles away to see people like Thompson doing this, I can't imagine how much more so I'd be if I were on the VT campus and someone was using my grief as a political tool. Jack Thompson is a terrible man. End of story.

Hah. Dance for us, puppet. Dance.

I heartily await his denouncement of the entire fucking media as being part of the LIBERAL VIDEO GAME CONSPIRACY.

@ Tony Selby

He'll probably say in response that he was including the time before the country was founded or some other such inane nonsense. There's no way to win an argument with him save for a good swift punch in the jaw. :P

It was only a matter of time before Thompson's soapboxing came around to bite him in the ass ... again. The sad thing is that he's such a closed-minded prick that he'll never see, let alone admit, the err of his ways.

I know, maybe he played solitare or minesweeper! They come with the computer! (assuming it windows) They must have made him snap!

It's so funny how far-righters like JT will say any news media that doesn't agree with them has a "liberal bias." Yet when a conservative station like Fox gives him far more credit than he deserves ("school shooting expert?" puleeze), nobody says a peep.

You know, when JT was getting shut down by Chris Matthews, the last thing he should have played for him was this --- Idiot ((flash w/ sound))

This is the latest, and probably one of the bigger, in a line of high profile failures for Jack. First came his removal from the Devin Moore case, then the tanking of his book, the defeat of the Louisiana law, the Bully case, the subsequent contempt of court charge (even if it was dropped), the less-than-flattering piece on Nightline, the Florida Bar trial and now this. It's clear now that he's fighting a losing battle even if he deosn't realize it or never admits it. Each time his credibility has been steadily whittled down, but that article and the Chris Matthews interview that preceded it took out a big chunk.

I attribute it in part to the wising-up of the news media. In the face of such horror and loss of life, pinning the blame on video games sounds very facile. And when it became apparent that Cho did NOT play video games, I think the MSM began to realize that games might not be the cause after all, that they needed to look for more serious answers, and held Cho as responsible for his own actions. I think also they realized as Dr. Sterheimer said, that video games are commonplace now, so it would be difficult to find a male of Cho's age who HADN'T played them at some point.

As I said in another thread, it's nice to see how the tables have turned, as before JT could go on TV, spout his lies and get away with it. Now they're not so quick to believe him anymore, and will probably be quicker nest time.

BTW Dennis, you forgot to mention his earlier MSNBC appearance with David Gregory. After JT's rant Gregory said, "Jack Thompson: an attorney who specializes - uh - terribly in these events." To which Thompson responded with what I thought was an insulting and condescending crack about how he had debated at VT earlier. Like I said, I doubt they'll ask him back there again. (Although it would be funny to see the words "Failed Attorney" or "Soon-To-Be Disbarred Lawyer" appear under his name the next time!)

As Della Rocca indicated, JT was waiting for something like this. He's been fond of saying, "I predicted Columbine," and during and after the Bully trial he kept warning that there would be a "Columbine times 100" tragedy. No doubt this was the schoolyard apocalypse he had been waiting for. But even though this was the worst mass shooting in U.S. history, there is NO evidence that video games were involved and while JT might have tried (and boy did he try) public opinion ultimately turned against him.

After this, I think you'll start to see a movement away from blaming video games for tragedies like this. It's a shame that it took a tragedy of this magnitude however, to make it abundantly clear.

As for JT, it's a matter of time now as he's lost whatever public support he may have had. The Cody Posey case is a forgone conclusion now, and the odds have increased that the Florida SC will disbar him. And even if he drops games and moves onto another target, it's doubtful that people will beleive anything he says anymore.

I'll be first to say it:

You've been PWNED, Thompson!

This is very good. While Thompson will never shut up, if less and less people listen to him and more call him out on his lies, then his credibility will be destroyed.

Of course, there will still be morons (read: politicians) that listen to him, but we have courts to deal with their unconstitutional legislation.

Again, he uses the word "liberal" in a derogatory sense, just as he called David Walsh; yet almost every politician he's worked with was a Democrat. Double standard?

"He might have killed somebody but he wouldn't have killed 32 if he hadn't rehearsed it and trained himself like a warrior on virtual reality. It can't be done. It just doesn't happen." ~ Jack

^ Give a person a gun and students trapped in a classroom and I bet they'd kill many. It'd be like shooting fish in a barrel.


"One thing that people often don't realize is that in the years since video game sales have really exploded, not only have youth violence rates decreased but violence rates in the U.S. have declined precipitously" ~
Dr. Karen Sternheimer

^ JT should read a few times.

From what understand, the WaPo is a fairly conservative media source. Calling them part of a vast liberal conspiracy portrays just how far right JT is, and I'm talking Falwell right, here. So, everyone's a liberal when you're part of the lunatic fringe.

I could be wrong about the WaPo, it's just my observation.

Just a little bit of nitpicking here, it's not VTU, it's just VT as Virginia Tech doesn't have "University" in its name.

Not to get off topic here but does anyone else see anything messed up or wrong with this poem?


http://www.english.vt.edu/

@Doggy - I beleive the deadline for the report is 15th September

[...] Thompson receives 'Jacklash' in a week Thompson receives 'Jacklash' in a week Posted Apr 21st 2007 12:55PM by Alexander Sliwinski Filed under: Culture It doesn't matter how many times he experiences failure or comes close to no longer being able to practice law -- there is always somebody willing to listen to Jack Thompson. No time was this more obvious than this week following the Virginia Tech massacre. Before the dead were counted, the shooter named or anyone could wrap their brain around what had just happened, Thompson was already on Fox News as a "school shooting expert" spouting theories, and Fox News let it slide without challenge. The situation was exacerbated Tuesday when the Washington Post impulsively reported video game related information they later retracted. By mid-week information was starting to turn against Thompson and even Hardball's Chris Matthews wasn't buying what Thompson was selling anymore. By yesterday the "Jacklash" was in full effect, the boulder rolled down the hill again and Jack "Sisyphus" Thompson will have to start over again -- without the help of using Take Two as his punching bag. In GamePolitics' recap of the week's events they have a quote from the International Game Developers Association's Jason Della Rocca, who says, "It's so sad. These massacre chasers -- they're worse than ambulance chasers -- they're waiting for these things to happen so they can jump on their soapbox." But as sure as the sun will rise and the moon will set, Jack Thompson is already rolling his boulder back up the hill, waiting for the next tragedy that he can blame on video games. __________________ Thanks, Smokey_Vol www.TheSummitonBluffMountain.com I like popcorn.. [...]

Jack Thompson is the kind of the person who gloats about this sort of thing happening. This is the kind of incident he was hoping for so that he could further his own disgusting, twisted agenda. I'm glad the media is starting to see what kind of person he really is.

[...] Click here to read more | Source [...]

I also saw another article that ripped into Jack pretty thoroughly here:

http://www.ampednews.com/features/253/

I'm glad that people are starting to stave off Jack Thompson, but you still have places like Fox News claiming he's an expert in school shootings and such, so I doubt we've seen the last of the Wacko Jacko on national TV...unfortunately.

Jack Thompson needs to get the following things through his head.

#1: If video games were a direct cause of violence, there would be utter anarchy right now.

#2: Sure they may have TRAINED on the game. Key word... TRAINED!!!. Oh, here's another way they could train. Paint Ball matches. That could do it too. Why don't you start going up against Paint Ball gun manufactorers?

#3: Many of us use games as stress relief... they keep us normal people out of trouble.

#4: Stop trying to go against our First Amendment rights

#5: You forget that shooters often tend to be loners. Now whatever caused them to be violent loners is the REAL cause to everything. There is more to it then video games. Why don't you check if these kids had ever been bullied, outcast, etc in school. Let's see your results then.

#6: Even the most hardened war veterens often have nightmares about what they've done. The kind of thing Cho did not even the most trained (sane, mind you) military officer would be able to do. You have to have something wrong in your head.

Did you know that close to 100% of gun crime is commited by people with 2 arms?

Clearly the solution is to start a mass dismember programme.

Also, shame on Fox News for their inability to make objective and impartial news coverage.

@Academics

Well, he claims a few people have threatened to kill him, mailed him sex toys, and fired guns at his house.

But this is coming from a guy who has accused game blogs of a RICO conspiracy.

So, maybe it's just me, but if gamers really were as violent as Thompson says, don't you think someone would have beaten the crap out of him by now?

It's about time Jack Thompson that the media recognizes your bs.

Yes, and you know what else? Its fucking annoying, its pointless and no one gives a fuck. Please go the hell away. This is one of the few blogs i read because Its thus far been pretty much free of your style of shit. Go the fuck back to the stupid little hole you crawled out of.

Not every one sees viral shit as a good thing, mostly because its driven by idiots and other stupid shit like "you will be haunted" or "you will die". Shut the fuck and stop ruining good sites with that shit. God dammit you piss me off.

While I don't mind the part on Thompson being on the receiving end of the bashing, I just hope this is the tip of pundits being more skeptical of ambulance chasers like Thompson.
Let's just hope this expands beyond just this tragedy and into journalists actually questioning state lawmakers on the proposed bills on violent video games.

My grammar and syntax offends me.

If the liberals were behind a conspiracy, he'd be dead or humiliated even more than he totally is by now.


If you guys don't copy this three times, once in different forums or comments of youtube OR disobey the following orders, you will have the demented spirits of the shooters from Columbine and Virginia Tech haunt your dreams for eternity til you die; FOLLOW THESE ORDERS EXPLICITLY if you don't want to be traumatized every night or day you go to bed:
1. Go to Animenewsnetwork.com, and click on their "encyclopedia"; look for the top-rated anime and manga or in their sections within encyclopedia and watch those anime. Looking in "Latest in Japan" or lisenced is also OK.
2. Watch any anime shown on there that has the highest to third-highest rating on the color bars (the green ones).
3. Also go to the following sites and comment on them (or just check the articles out) every day for 3 days: gamepolitics.com, joystiq.com, gamerankings.com, and doublefine.com and.

Failing to do these things will result in what I stated in the top happening in the next 30 days if not accomplished.At least you don't DIE!

"The news media are increasingly owned by entertainment companies. Liberals who infest both worlds don’t want you to think that adult-rated entertainment, containing violence and sex, has any behavioral consequences…"

Now, as a cultural liberalist, if he was more respectable, I might contemplate being offended. But coming from him, it makes me think of Conservapedia and Fox News. I just wanted to say that, heh.

But seriously, it is about time mainstream media outlets started taking a hard look at him finally. And I agree largely with what Black Manta said.

[...] As noted in an earlier post, Fox News turned to anti-game lawyer Jack Thompson in the wake of the Virginia Tech shooting. He offered a take on the shooting based on speculation and either misinterpretation or misrepresentation, claiming that the event was triggered by violent video game play. As it turns out, however, no games were found in the killer’s room, and media outlets have now backed away from the video game angle. The Washington Post even went so far as to delete a small mention of games from its original article. [...]

I figured MSNBC wouldn't buy into Jack'sclaims the moment I read how they got a package from the Cho himself. Showing that Cho was messed up in the head and someone that needed help...not a game player...

Wow, I think this maybe video gaming has turned the corner in mainstream acceptance. Well, a tangible start, anyway. I've been waiting for this for years. Somehow I don't feel like celebrating, though. I wish this could have been brought about by different circumstances.

Personally, I think that part of the problem is that Columbine has been almost raised to a cult level. Klebold and Harris did it because they wanted to be remembered for doing it, and they got their wish, even I, living in a country 5000 miles away know their names, despite the fact I couldn't name a single victim. That's quite appalling when I think about it.

Media loves 'monsters', the more horrific the act, the more Media is interested in it, but it will always make icons of them to some people.

These people start with the intention of dying in the end, they take that into account, and usually commit suicide. Hence the package sent in by Cho, or the Diaries of the Columbine killers, it is a message of the most horrible kind.

Oddly enough, that pre-meditation of death is something else that completely blows the whole 'Video Game' theory out of the water, since part of the argument is that people who are 'acting out video games' are unaware that they can by hurt or die, not that they have planned for it and mailed a package to a News agency.

@Rob

A small correction: No authorities declared that Cho was "unfit to care for himself". If you read the documentation related to his being sent for mental health evaluation, police and a judge declared that he may be a danger to himself and/or to others. These people are not trained mental health professionals. Their evaluation amounted to a layperson saying, "Say, maybe someone who is trained to deal with this sort of thing should give this fellow a look". When a psychologist (or perhaps it was a psychiatrist) did evaluate Cho, the finding was that Cho was depressed. People who are merely depressed are not incarcerated.

It can be argued that the psychologist botched the exam, but I disagree. There seems to be this notion that doctors are wizards of some sort, able to divine someone's state of mind without fail merely by talking to them. Obviously, this idea is absurd, but it's a convenient scapegoat for those who want to lay blame. Sociopaths, for example, are known to be quite apt at "gaming the system" of psychology, telling examiners what they need to hear in order to give them a clean bill of mental health. If a subject is unwilling to cooperate with doctors, it can be extremely difficult to diagnose or treat a mental illness.

That ultimately tells us where we should place the blame: once again, with Cho. His reasoning and judgement were declared "normal" by a doctor, meaning that he must have known that he was mentally troubled. He should have sought help on his own, and cooperated with those willing to give it. As with arguments blaming guns or video games, blaming this tragedy on psychologists or the mental health professionals involved with Cho is an easy out, and a claim that fails under scrutiny.

While the V-Tech shooting was a disaster, the worst I've heard of is the Bath School Disaster. This disaster took place at the Bath Consolidated School in Bath Township, Michigan, during the year 1927, in which 45 people were killed(Including the Superintendant) and 58 people were injured. And the sad thing about it, is that the one who did this was a school board member named Andrew Kehoe

If you want a reading, its at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

god i love chris matthews now. its about time someone told thompson hes full of it.

[...] It doesn’t matter how many times he experiences failure or comes close to no longer being able to practice law — there is always somebody willing to listen to Jack Thompson. No time was this more obvious than this week following the Virgina Tech massacre. Before the dead were counted, the shooter named or anyone really could wrap their brain around what had just happened, Thompson was already on Fox News as a “school shooting expert” spouting theories and Fox News let it slide without challenge. [...]

[...] The rush of critics to blame games soon after the Virginia Tech tragedy has been well trodden. And, earlier, I posted Jack Thomspon’s challenge to debate me. Knowing that he’s done this before (though sometimes has backed out) and that he actually has an agent and production company on board, I took his bait and started asking questions about how such a debate would work. [...]

Good site - you\'re a pretty good writer.

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