
Not content to sue (so far this year) the Florida Bar, the Florida Supreme Court, GTA publisher Take-Two Interactive and leading gaming blog Kotaku, game-hatin' barrister Jack Thompson has focused on a new target, burger franchise Wendy's.
In the latest issuance from his nonstop e-mail machine, Thompson turns his attention to Wendy's CEO Kerri Anderson. What's Thompson's gripe? Obesity? Cholesterol? The Frostys are too thick to suck through a straw?
Nah. It's Rockstar's upcoming Manhunt 2. So just what is Wendy's connection with Manhunt 2? There isn't one, unless you connect the dots the way Jack Thompson connects the dots.
With essentially no one left to sue, Thompson has latched onto a Wendy's promotional tie-in with
Nintendo Wii toys (pictured at left). The issue seems to be that:
a.) Manhunt 2 is what Thompson calls a "murder simulator"
b.) Manhunt 2 will appear on the Wii (among other systems)
c.) Wendy's is promoting the Wii, therefore;
d.) Wendy's is promoting Manhunt 2, which promotes murder
Thompson also claims to have the inside track on what deceased Wendy' founder Dave Thomas would have wanted in this regard:
A dear friend of mine worked for Wendy’s and with Dave Thomas closely for years. From that I know that Dave Thomas never would have tolerated the use of Wendy’s good name to promote Nintendo’s Wii, not with this game available on the Wii platform.
So, second hand, friend-of-a-friend info on the inner thoughts of a dead guy. Is that what passes for evidence in Thompson's world these days?
Funny, though. None of the toys depicted on the
Wendy's site seem to be from Manhunt 2. In fact, they all look rather E-rated.
Just to be clear here, Thompson has neither sued nor has he threatened to sue Wendy's. However, he has been making noises of late about an international movement to block the publication of Manhunt 2, with details coming next week. Sounds to GP as though Thompson and British Parliamentarian Keith Vaz, another Manhunt critic, will be teaming up.
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I saw this on wikipedia.Isn't it Ironic that a person you is trying to ban violent video games made a story about a guy going around and killing people.And then he refuses to make this supposed "donation"
He's such a fuckstick
He's like Dean Wormer, but without the personality or memorable dialog. Jack Thompson is just... a loudmouth.
"That's the worst idea I've ever heard in my life, Jack."
"Yes, this is horrible, this idea."
1) Osama bin Laden hates American freedom.
2) Americans are free to play whatever video games they want.
3) Jack Thompson wants video games banned or at least federally regulated, thus:
*** 4) Jack Thompson supports Osama bin Laden!!! ***
So what do you guys think? Just thought I'd share this with the GP folks... :)
Tim (aka the Slipperman)
He is runnin out of steam and he is going to fail just like bell bottomed jeans in the 70's
Quad9Damage. I am so about to go to Wendy's. Right now. Questions: Chicken nuggets or a hamburger for my kid's meal?
"Research at MIT, measuring people's reactions while playing video games. found that muscle tension and other physic signs of anger were more pronounced when SOFTWARE MALFUNCTIONED then when a character died in the course of the game."***
Maybe Mr Thompson should go after Microsoft crappy design of windows and all the bugs in it then go after video games. Because according to MIT angry is more "pronounced" when your computer bugs then when you die in a game. But then we all know Mr. Thompson is not a responsible man.
*** Peter Coffee writer in EWEEK. Article was in their April 15, 2002 issue. I don't have the link but that should get in discretion if you want to check it out.
Yes, but Germany was a threat. Jack's just a paranoid dumbass
The axiom itself is pretty head-scratching, especially when you consider the typical game for the Wii, so Jack presents a rationalization by holding up Manhunt 2 as the prototypical video game. Now it's true that the term "straw man argument" gets tossed around incorrectly (along with "ad hominem"), but here we've got a perfect example. And JT can't even manage to knock the strawman down, as the illustrious history of his legal career can attest.
And while Jack's behavior is perfectly consistent with his beliefs, the manner of his presentation does call into question his ability to actually act rationally in arguing for them. There's really not too much difference left anymore between him and the guy who screams unintelligible sermons from my street corner every few days.
three words
1) Bat
2) Shit
3) Loco
It's arguable whether Thompson has actually born false witness... but it's pretty clear that he does lie about things.
Manhunt 2 will be released for Wii
Wii is a games console
Wendy's promotes Wii
Wendy's founder dies
Conclusion: Wendy's owner died of the pain the release of Manhunt 2.("What-hunt?").
Seriously, MR Thompson, your logic doesn't make sense. If I wear a Wii t-shirt, am I asking children to play Manhunt 2, wich in your dreamland,m instantly turns them into ruthless killers? I know you already know this, but for the record THE MACHINE ITSELF WON'T BUY THE GAME UNSUPERVISED, WON'T FORGET TO EXPLAIN CHILDREN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REAL LIFE AND GAMES, AND THEN WON'T SELL THEM A GUN. Nuff said.
As for the ignoring...why? He hasn't hit a single one, and he provides good entertainment value. Unlike the "seduction of the innocent" author. Beeyatch.
With this kind of totaly illogical reasoning, one could argue that the following Parties are 'promoting violence':
Producers of TV- Systems on which violent movies can be seen
TV-stations that air violent movies
Police officers who carry dangerous guns and are admired by little children (they all want the guns...)
Military personel (for the same reason)
The goverment for waging wars (more violence...)
newspapers, for printing violence
and
Churches - anyone read about Moses and the death of the first born ? Jesus- promotion for mass murder !
So, if that Airhead thinks about a case against wendies - I'ld think about sueing HIM because he's forcing me to violent thoughts involving very very nasty things unsuitable for minors.
I guess 10 Million would be just enough to cure me from those thoughts...
the Mooninites are cartoon characters
The Mooninites supposedly threatened terrorism against Boston
Therefore, Scooby Doo is a terrorist
Scooby Doobie Die!!
And he promotes weed.
The dictionary is made out of paper
Paper is used to roll cigarettes
Cigarettes can contain marijuana
Marijuana is a drug
Meth is a drug
Therefore, the dictionary is made out of meth
More crooked logic
1. Spider Man is movie
2. Everything is promoting spider man
3. Everything is promoting movies
4. Porn are movies
5. Everything is promoting porn
6. Sue everybody and get in news more for being an ass
5)Kevin Bacon has probably eaten Wendy's before.
6) Therefore, Kevin Bacon is promoting Murder.
Also: I'm pretty sure almost any wendys manager would beat the snot out of you if you told them your logic.
"ignore him and he’ll go away."
isn't that what we said about Germany during the early years of WW2?
Reading over the e-mail, I can say that Jack did not state his logic in bullet point form. However, he did say as much in the letter. The GP article was paraphrasing really, and probably shouldn't have been posted as though it was a quote. That being said, I don't see in wrong doing on Dennis' part as Jack did essentially say that in his e-mail.
As said by multiple people, he is still playing Six degrees of Kevin Bacon, the Take Two/Rockstar version.
STOP GIVING HIM THE PUBLICITY!!! Just ignore him and he'll go away.
you get starburst at a store
starburts taste like fruit
fruit has seeds
seeds make plants
some plants are drugs
drugs are sold on the street to kids
kids use drugs
therefore starburst promotes drugs because the flavor is from a plant, and plants can be drugs. ah yes, listing logic is great... for someone in the first grade
*tsk* *tsk*, I expected him to be thorough
b.) Children have been molested by clowns
c.) McDonald's uses a clown as their spokesperson, therefore;
d.) McDonald’s is supporting clowns and thereby child molestation
It's flawless logic really. I mean it's flawless logic on bizzaro Earth.
Violence -> video games
video games -> children
children -> McDonalds
Mcdonalds -> Hamburgers
Hamburgers -> Hamburgler
Conclusion: Oh my God. The Hamburgler is going to shoot up the local McDonalds! ALL 15 OF THEM!
Nintendo has a history of being very protective of their reputation. Tread carefully, because they can be quite litigous (sp?). Good luck!
http://www.shacknews.com/docs/press/050807_thompson_wendys.x
He's misquoting the APA report again. Go figure.
SOMEONE forward this to the Florida Bar. PLEASE. I'm sure they'd find this to be enlightening as to the nature of the man they want to suspend. This is too goddamn great! Wendy's. Promoting murder through TOYS! For ages 5-12. That's too freaking funny.
Here's to the Massacre Chaser, Internet Troll, pissant lawyer and all around MORON, Jack Thompson. May the nice men with white lab coats pump him full of the meds he needs so desoerately. They have a nice straightjacket for him to try on, I'm sure.
"You know, I can almost hear the capacity crowd of WWE fans repeatedly chanting the word ASSHOLE."
Actually, I can hear the original ECW fans chant "Shut-The-F***-Up!" at Jacky Boy.
Jack's out of his element on this one. Calling this a reach is an extreme understatement.
You know, I can almost hear the capacity crowd of WWE fans repeatedly chanting the word ASSHOLE.
That said... Damnit Jack! Wiis were HARD ENOUGH to find in the stores. Now I'll *NEVER* find one!
Anybody heard of the Ambiguously Gay Duo?
"Again, he’s perfectly allowed to protest against ANYTHING, or else they’d be limiting his 1st amendment, and even HE has a right to say what he wants. The settlement you’re referring to, which involves Take-Two, not Rockstar, only prohibits him from suing, or threatening to sue, T2 and its subsidiaries (which includes Rockstar) in a manner that would block the sale of its products. "
Actually, i think the lawsuits thing was only part of the seetlement...
"2.) will not communicate to Take Two or anyone doing business with T2 (like, say Wal-Mart) any accusation that the company committed any wrongdoing by selling its games. Thompson is not restricted from criticizing the content of T2 games, nor is he prevented from acting as counsel in lawsuits brought against Take Two by other parties"
Bascially, Jack agreed that if a company was selling a Take two game, he could not claim they are commited anykind of wrongdoing (like he is doing to Wendy's)... he can still critize the games in general, but he can't directly tell a company that they are evil for selling the game... in a sense, Jack legally agree to give up a bit of 1st amendment rights, by agreeing he wouldn't attack those comanies in such a way
Grant it, i think Jack actually slides just under the radar on this one... one, the way the agreement is stated, it only counts those who SELLS Take-two games, not just promoting them (loophole)... and second, Wnedy's is in no way doing business with Take-two or actually promoting Manhunt, they are doing Business with Nintendo and promoting the Wii... because they are not working with Take-two or promoting their products, they would be considered fair game for Jack
Apparently, nobody paid attention when I said 6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon earlier, either.
Well of course he is. He's targeted:
Sony
Microsoft
Take Two
Bethesda
Penny Arcade
Kotaku
Gamepolitics
Rockstar
The FBA
Janet Reno
Florida Supreme Court
2 Live Crew
Midway Games
The ESRB
EA
ESA
Bungie
Valve
Joystiq
Howard Stern
Blank Rome
South Park
Larry Seidlin
...
Sooo... which one did he supposedly succeed against? I'm pretty sure the 2 Live Crew ruling was reversed.
ill hire jack to defend me in a case of me getting a straw stuck in the back of my throat because of oversucking it with the frosty.
Hey, you in the Pixelante shirt! Put down the controller of Mass Destruction and put your hands up......!
Which, especially if done in the US, would proven his claims to be a "First Amendment Advocate" and not out to ban games but only keep them from children to be false.
But then, John Bruce couldn't tell the truth if he were one of the aliens in Galaxy Quest who couldn't tell a lie.
Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
oh happy day Jack finally totally lost it
XD
What is, um....
Well, what is there to say really? I think this speaks for itself. Jack Thompson has surprised us all at how truly idiotic and insane he really is. Kudos Jack, for keeping us guessing on which crazy inane shit you will pull next.
http://gamepolitics.com/2007/05/08/hey-jack-you-want-fries-with-that/#co...
Again, he's perfectly allowed to protest against ANYTHING, or else they'd be limiting his 1st amendment, and even HE has a right to say what he wants. The settlement you're referring to, which involves Take-Two, not Rockstar, only prohibits him from suing, or threatening to sue, T2 and its subsidiaries (which includes Rockstar) in a manner that would block the sale of its products. But this isn't him filing a lawsuit against either. He can say what he wants about Rockstar, Take Two or Nintendo, but he cannot sue them to block them, or accuse them of wrongdoing to it, its shareholders, subsidiaries, or any other entities that do business with them.
In other words, he can't go up to a TTWO shareholder and start accusing the company of wrongdoing, nor can he go to Nintendo for a similar reason, as they are doing business with them in the form of providing a console for their games, but he can go to the average joe and do it, even if nobody cares.
But he's doing none of these things. Again, he's playing Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon, except he's putting Take-Two into the mix. Simply drawing an extremely tenuous connection to the company isn't enough to breach the settlement, since he's not suing a company affiliated or doing business with T2.
Of course after the judge almost dies of laughter and throws the entire lawsuit out, JT will attempt to sue the sharpie company for making his witness look bad.
At any rate, this demonstrates how out there he is. Granted, he plays the "only Bar-certified sane lawyer" card now and then, but this latest spectacle is neither logical nor sane (not that I'm implying his other endeavors have been any shade of reasonable).
I'd pay real money to see the reaction of the higher-ups at Wendy's as they read this email. Pure comedy gold.
Seriously, the guy has started grasping at straws now. First it was the Florida Bar before the Florida Supreme Court, then the Florida Supreme Court before...let's see...
...has he reached the National Supreme Court yet?
Heh heh, I'd like to see that! Highest court in the land turning to Jack and going, "And you are?".
If Manhunt 2 is coming out on Nintendo's Wii, I would think he'd be after Nintendo. But noooo... he thinks, "Okay... Nintendo... too kid friendly! Wendy's is perfect! Just enough sleaze in those "Square" burgers of theirs! It's just not natural! Mua hahahahaha!"
You'd think he'd be after Burger King for releasing those BK games!
Is he going to sue McD's for releasing the Mario toys last summer?
Hey, didn't Arby's release Pac-Man glasses in the 80's? That might count!
Let's see... 6 degrees.
1) Arby's releases Pac-Man collectable glasses during the 1980's
2) The Pac-Man glasses are a tie-in with the Pac-Man video game
3) Pac-Man would go on to be a huge success providing financial gain for the video game industry.
4) With the expansion of the video game industry, Take Two Interactive becomes a part of it via companies such as Rockstar Games and 2K Sports.
5) Rockstar Games decides to release a sequel to their game Manhunt in 2007-2008 (dates pending)
6) Manhunt is partially inspired by the movie "The Running Man" based on the novel by Stephen King and starring Arnold Scwarzenegger.
Now I need to take a few more steps to link Arnold to Kevin Bacon, but anyway the point is that by following this logic, Jack Thompson can sue the following:
Arby's
Namco
Toru Iwatani (The man who made Pac-Man)
Corningware (I think they made the glasses themselves in the 80's)
2K Sports (oh wait, he already is)
Stephen King
and Arnold Schwarzenegger
Now if you think that makes sense, then I have a bridge to sell you.
And I think Jack Thompson could use it seeing as how he's burning all of his as we speak.
I just can't wait to see the headlines when he's finally disbarred. Not to mention his immediate words after that.
"NEXT TIME DENNIS! NEXT TIME!"
~Otaku-Man
I never thought I'd say this, but I'm beginning to feel sorry for the guy... Yuck. I need to go wash my brain.
When you're as far off your rocker as Thompson is? Absolutely.
So Burger King is also guilty, because they sell Xbox games, and Manhunt 2 will be out on the Xbox...
And McDonalds is guilty, because, well you need to sue all 3, just because.
And Canadians are tracking Jack's every move through special nano-tech quarters that talk to him through his teeth...
Don't forget, Spongebob is also a part of the media's pro gay agenda, and since Spongebob has appeared in games on Nintendo's Gamecube, and on the Playstation, that means both of them are part of the pro gay agenda. The cons[piracy deepens. HOOAH!!!!
You mean the sound they make just before they burn out and die?
Basically, what he's saying is that he'd rather be told his 'facts' by a biased American source than an Impartial UK one, and I have also stated that I will be letting the papers know if Jack starts preaching his hatred and vitriol in the UK. It probably won't lead to much, but to be honest, that's 100% what I intend to do.
*sigh*
Thompson's logic makes my brain cry.
I am getting so frickin' tired of this guy.
That's it, I'm suing Disney... First off, they have that "The Fox & The Hound" movie. Obviously, this movie promotes Fox's, and thus promotes 20th Century Fox. 20th Century Fox has made such movies as Predator and Aliens, both very violent and very gory. I won't stand for this glorification of violence on the part of Disney studios!
Additionally, they have the Splash Mountain! ride which features Brer Rabbit. This is disgusting considering that everyone knows this is obviously acceptance of Playboy and their "Bunnies".
My college roomate's brother's ex-girlfriend's husband knew a guy that worked in the Disney mailroom and once had Walt say "Could you hold that elevator" to him, and *he* doesn't think that Walt would appreciate this shameless peddling of filth!
Most people I've met in my life that claim they "knew" Dave Thomas "knew" him in this fashion.
1. Jack Thompson does stupid things.
2. Jack Thompson is therefore, stupid.
I win.
http://cbs5.com/local/local_story_128110354.html
cue JT in 5..
But I'd also like to point out that video game violence had nothing to do with this. A console is a piece of plastic and metal until you turn it on. This was a simple case of greed. Anyone remember people being killed over Air Jordans? Yeah.
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Maybe its the years in retail that has caused me to become desensitized to this but... seriously, the "I am the friend of the owner!" card? Its nothing but hearsay and would not stand up in any court... Especially with dear ol' Dave in the ground to support such a claim.
-Auto
"This is what Dave Thomas would say if he were alive today."
...
Sort've.
Actually, it's... not really a violation of his settlement. The settlement was only for 3 things:
1. Jack can whine and scream and moan and bitch publicly about upcoming and/or current Take-Two titles, but he cannot sue or threaten to sue in a manner that would otherwise block the sale of such titles. He's not blocking the sale of anything Take-Two related. He can still sue, or attempt to sue them, for monetary damages, if he wants to blame them for a wrongful death, or for saying "VIDEO GAMES MADE HIM DO IT", but not in a manner that would block their sales.
2. Jack can whine and scream and moan and bitch publicly about Take-Two, but he cannot claim they are guilty of wrongdoing to anybody working for T2, its subsidaries, or anybody doing business with them, such as retailers. He's only bitching about Wendy's, which is releasing Wii toys, which is based off the Wii, which will have Manhunt 2 as one of it's titles. A tenuous connection, legally, but also tenuous enough to not get himself into trouble.
3. He's not allowed to do anything legal against T2 unless he consults directly with their attorneys. Again, he's not doing anything legal against T2, so he's not violating anything.
Um...
What...
My... brain...... huh?
Is this like that game where you find the connection between celebrities?
Keanu Reeves to Jet Li.
1) Keanu Reeves played Neo in the Matrix.
2) Neo means one.
3) Jet Li starred in The One.
Yay I win!
Jack "the Massacre Chaser" Thompson must be incredibly flexible. 'Cause he sure knows how to stretch.
"However, he has been making noises of late about an international movement to block the publication of Manhunt 2, with details coming next week."
Is not he supposed to refrain from taking legal action against Take Two and infringe on their right to sell games? Is he looking for a loophole with overseas markets? Is Jack going to see the TT lawers again? Tune in next time, same Jack time, same Jack network!
Wow. That's- that's really something.
I think Jack Thompson is just jealous, because, as everyone knows, gamers have legendarily large penises. Jack Thompson, of course, does not.
Hell, I do that all the time.
To Thompson:
Suck it. That is all.
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Jack loves to claim how mass media is harmful
Fredric Wertham also does
Fredric Wertham's attacks were to comics, makeing him and enemy of comics
Adolf Hitler was a common enemy for comic book super heroes to face in the 1940's
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Leon S. Kennedy Down in hand-to-hand combat?? Yea, didn't think so.
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