D.C. TV Station Has Video Report on V-Tech Rampage

D.C. TV Station Has Video Report on V-Tech Rampage

May 18, 2007
WRC-4, Washington D.C.'s NBC affiliate has a video report on the V-Tech Rampage controversy, including footage of Ryan Lambourn, the game's creator, who said:
You do it for some negative reaction to laugh at.

However, Virginia Tech grad student Vasanth Ganesan rejected Lambourn's terse explanation:
Because he's an outsider, its just another scenario for him, for his game. For those of us who are here [and] knew people down in Blacksburg, it's really scary.

Comments

What annoys me is that this is the guy who made "Earthquake Girl", one of the flash movies I have in my favorites on NG.
To USA Hater,

Nice troll. I have been trolled. Will be trolled again. Here's a rational response anyway.

I may object to the content of a game, and am more than willing to criticise it for the choice of subject matter, as well as for the quality of the game. However, I am not willing to say that one doesn't have the right to make a game, or that a game should be banned. Their is a fine, but appreciable, difference between stating personal feeling and attempting to force everyone to abide by your opinion. I think that people should make what I believe to be the moral choice and not play games like this. I don't think I should physically or legally attempt to stop them from being made, or played. This applies to many games. For me, it applies to this VT game. For me, it also applies to Manhunt.

I believe that this is the general consensus among people both on this site and in the gaming community at large. It can, however, be difficult to express clearly.
@ Hackangel

Well I was attempting to be sarcastic. And according to one of his posts he is British. He refers to the Prime Minister and the Queen.

And if you are saying you don't make generalizations at all you are lying to yourself. We all generalize at least a little. If we didn't, we couldn't tell jokes or make a hypothesis. It's all part of the Human condition. Kinda sad, even I admit that, but it's true.
I would be so sad if this guy's conscience won't bother him. If so, I would recommend him seeing a psychiatrist. I do understand that we should sometimes look on the brighter side of things but what he has done is, I believe, a reflection of how dense he is as a person.
@Gameboy

"I was thinking of referring to the fact that he must be a European, more precisely a Frenchman. We all know how the French are. Then, I realized that I’m part French (just a little) and that is kind of a stain on me to lump him with me".

You do realize that this broad assumption and generalization lumps you with him more than being part french if he happens to be?
Well now he's come out and said that he is a troll, and apprently is trolling the site. Come on guys, you're more clever than to fall for trolls, right?
"USA Hater Says:

May 18th, 2007 at 5:09 pm
This guy is right on !

Your the same crowd that say games never killed anybody or influenced anybody and say shit about Jack Thompson then come out with this bullshit outrage, hypocrits."

I read this post at work right before I left. The whole drive, I was thinking of what to say about this asshat.

I was thinking of referring to the fact that he must be a European, more precisely a Frenchman. We all know how the French are. Then, I realized that I'm part French (just a little) and that is kind of a stain on me to lump him with me.

I was thinking of pointing out the complete lack of cases in which video games have jumped off the shelves and mauled people to death. Or admitting that video games can influence an individual, but no more than a movie, book (like say... the Bible or Quran?), or a dog (Son of Sam, anyone?).

I was thinking of pointing out that anyone who sympathizes or defends Jack "Massacre Chaser" Thompson has obviously lost their mind. Perhaps too protected from the real world, that they don't realize that most people are responsible for their own actions.

But just now, I got home, sat down and reread his post. It's full of grammatical errors and misspelled words. Just like his idol, he can't proofread anything before he submits it. If this is another of our critics, we are fine. They will just make themselves look like fools in the public square. I may be a lot. But I'd like to think I'm not a hypocrit. Whatever that is...
You know, freedom of speech protects stuff like this.

True...BUT whose to say that someone wont do something because of your actions.....*wink wink*
Hi, Jackoff! What are you doing posting on GP? Isn't it past your bedtime?

go back to bed, jack... and don't you come back no more.
Ryan seems like a sad, lonely little boy crying for attention. Ryan, get a girlfriend. That is if you could find anyone so desperate.
@USA Hater:

What do our claims that video games don't cause people to kill have to do with our opinions of Ryan Lambourn and his game?
@USA Hater

Eheh, no, we aren't hypocrites, as we have no problem this guy made the game ,our problem is with the content.
I think this is making a mountain out of a molehill. Im not offended. And the only reason I think people here are is because theyre afraid this can be used by politicains to try to censor games.

I think the opposite may occur though (if this actually became a big story, which it isnt). It could make people realise that the cats out of the bag. Any kid can make an offensive game and distribute it on the net, theres no way you can stop that. And it shows how responsible video game companies are by comparison.

This sort of reminds me of prohibition. You regulate an industry too much and you just create a black market, where theres no standards at all.
@AngryAtThisSickPerson

Agreed. The maker of SCRPG at least is eloquent, and rather in-depth about his views. Even if the game was in "bad taste", he does make a pretty good point with it -- the point he was trying to make. His work definitely falls more into the category of art. The maker of VTech Rampage... he's just childish and immature, going for his 15 minutes of fame.
@USA Hater

Is that you JT? How'd you get in here?
This guy is right on !

Your the same crowd that say games never killed anybody or influenced anybody and say shit about Jack Thompson then come out with this bullshit outrage, hypocrits.
http://www.destructoid.com/virtual-school-shootings-interviewing-two-of-...

Take a look at that for an actually interview with the guy. It appears I could be right about what I said. At least I think. He's sounds like such an asshole who is trying to grab attention.
The only possible good that I could see coming of this game, what he said, and the supposed ransom is that it could possibly be commentary about how much other media has tried to profit off of this tragedy by their constant reporting of the VT tragedy, instant finger pointing to games, or their quickness to judge. I'm not saying this is definite, but it could be a possibility although rather poorly executed, tasteless, and disgusting IMO. Even if this is what he was trying, he doesn't really seem to be succeeding. But then again, I could be wrong and it could just be someone that is very much demented and trying to be an attention whore and give off some sick message.

All in all, I'm not really in favor, out of favor, or neutral on what that demented kid has made a game from. I'm kind of undecided but lean strongly towards out of favor because it is getting attention based off of a horrible tragedy and he should be banned from Newgrounds and if it is possible in some sort of way, jailed. This is just atrocious that someone would do this.

My biggest problem is that this will tear down the gamer and game industry image another notch. As if we don't already have numerous parental organizations and politicians riding high off of making us look like violent people with no lives and sick in the head, then this idiots helps give them confirmation of that despite the fact we aren't all like that. It almost makes me want to smack him because my image as a gamer could potentially be ruined by this moron.

I'm sorry but this guy needs help...
well, technically he is a game designer. it's a bad game, in poor taste. but he designed it, and it has the quality of a game. which makes him a game designer. but they should add another word at the begining of the title "bad". I can think of worse things, but.... I'll leave that up to the world lol.
not "quality", qualities.... darn this no edit button.
@ Jbourrie

I disagree. Calling him a game designer is like calling a man farting on a snare drum a musician.

And I agree with your second sentance - he's an immature loser for sure, but wishing death on him is silly at best. At worst, it makes gamers look like monsters. Cut it out, folks.
@BlueWolf72: Since it's known that he has refused to do interviews where they wouldn't pay him, it stands to reason that the interviews he has done were paid.
He reminds of 'grief players' on various old-school MUDs and current MMORPGs. The kind of social vermin who balance out their real-life irrelevancy by being complete asshats in a game.

Met a few of those when I was MUDding. Don't miss them very much nowadays :)

--TR
He is a game designer. Just not a very good one.

And I wish certain people on this forum would stop wishing him death. That's just childish.
Just curious if he is getting paid for the interviews...
I love how any idiot that can use BASIC or flash is a "GAme designer" to the media, as long as they made something offensive. When's the last time I heard anyhting about Child's Play on the news? Never. The last time I heard about 'dem evil videro gamers?
Ugh.
His smile is chilling...
@kurisu

"My brother and I knew a kid like him. He would constantly taunt this one overweight girl on the bus over and over and over again,"

Ditto, only he was taunting this kid with "lol faggot" and kept trying to trip him. After a year of this, the kid snapped, grabbed him by the throat and slammed him into a locker. Right in front of the vice-principal...

Fortunately, the VP had heard complaints about the little shit, and while she gave the kid who snapped a lecture about controlling himself, she sentenced the brat to detention for a month, and weekly sessions with the school counselor.

We knew it wouldn't stop anything, because the brat was just doing it to get a rise out of people, but I think he kept his mouth shut within earshot for at least a few months.
@ E. Zachary

Ah, didn't see that. Thanks.
Hmm...Unsettling.
My brother and I knew a kid like him. He would constantly taunt this one overweight girl on the bus over and over and over again, the same god damned song everyday for 6 freaking months. Eventually one of the other guys on the bus threatened him and gave the kid a black eye to shut him up, a week later he was back at it until someone held his head out the bus window and let him back in just short of hitting a stop sign. this, Ryan kid likely knew that if a threat on his life were made it'd be the other kid getting in trouble if he went whining to the authorities, and the notion that he incited it would vanish. In all honesty I hope someone does threaten his life over this and almost follows through. I'm not wishing him death, I'm wishing him a lesson, even if you can't fix stupid.

He heavily reminds me of the kid that Penny Arcade received a letter about.
He's taking it to a whole new level:

V-Tech flash creator issues ransom
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/05/16/v-tech_flash_creator_issues_rans...

"ATTENTION ANGRY PEOPLE: I will take this game down from newgrounds if the donation amount reaches $1000 US, i'll take it down from here if it reaches $2000 US, and i (sic) will apologize if it reaches $3000 US."

Of course, since his provider has suspended his website, I'm not sure how he's planning to collect. Guy's just being a jerk, and collecting extra bad karma.
*looks closly at the picture* I... don't think that's a shadow. But yeah, he seems to be the type of person who no one liked, because he didn't want them to.
Sujet - "Is that a shadow, or a Hitler mustache?" Looks more like a "Dirty Sanchez" to me.

What a freakin douchebag. I hope all that he holds dear is taken away from him in the blink of an eye and then some Aussie bloke who doesn't "think the way he does" beats the piss out of him and leaves him for worm food. Just my opinion...I could be wrong. Nah!
Every time I learn something more about this kid, the more obvious it becomes that he's just a jerk, out for attention whatever the cost.

I hope to God this follows him around for the rest of his life. I'd love to know what company would employ him after all this.
@GameDevMich:

I'll take it one step further. He's the guy at school who liked making the remarks that got him bullied, beat up, and otherwise stomped by anyone around him. We all knew at least one person like that.

-P
"i hope they skin the little bastard alive. i cant imagine how someone could be that cold, you dont laugh at murder."

Nice. Fight fire with fire! He's an insensitive, uncaring person - skin him alive!

Hey pot, this is kettle calling! You around?
In a past story it was mentioned that the author of VTech Rampage said he related to the actual shooter of Virginia Tech, because he too was bullied in school...

Maybe it's wrong of me to make a snap judgment based on someone's voice and mannerisms, but it's pretty clear to me why he got bullied. I got bullied in school as well, but this is the kind of kid who got bullied by other victims and nerds because he just had way of pissing everyone off with his comments and speaches.

While I detest bullying, I can easily envision a scenario where he made some snide or inappropriate comment to a jock or jock's girlfriend and got the snot beat out of him on a daily basis.

Actually, considering his past and current actions, I don't think I'm wrong about my judgment because it's obviously fully supported. It's an insult to hear him labeled as a game designer, he's a prick for his chosen content, and he's a coward for not making himself and his product available to the community. If I had a game portraying a strong message, I'd have my booth set up in public for people to take their fair verbal shots at me. I'd actually pay money to see him do the same.
so technically... for the majority of people, it's just another scenario. Though the majority of people aren't treating it like that.
so what he's saying is he did it for the lulz?
i hope they skin the little bastard alive. i cant imagine how someone could be that cold, you dont laugh at murder.
Well, at least they said it's a homemade game.
Sujet: It's a shadow, but he DOES have the look of Adolf Hitler.
"Game Designer?" Hardly.
Is that a shadow, or a Hitler mustache?

I'm being serious by the way.
I hate sites that only work in IE.

This kid is getting what he wanted. Attention. What a world.
I really hate to break it to everyone, but after carefully observing the picture, there is some mustache under there.

@ Scoops

I agree with your statements in the 2nd paragraph. It really does boil down to the individual and what they believe in. If they don't want to play it, they won't.
You are a worthless piece of shit who deserves much more than the negative criticism you are getting. I go to Virginia Tech and witnessed the aftermath of the events first hand. Really, there is not a word deplorable enough to call you. I have a feeling you will get yours in the end however.

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Posted 11/07/09 at 10:51am
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Posted 11/07/09 at 09:30am
Austin_Lewis: There are other firearms that fire the 5.7. However, I too would like to know where he got the ammo and what kind was used. Maybe Hasan, planning not to live through this, went out and bought one the boxes of SS190 that are floating around in
Posted 11/07/09 at 08:44am
JDKJ: And it isn't yet clear what type of ammunition Hasan used. It's strange that he purchased a gun but didn't purchase ammunition for it at the same place and time. Especially because the calibre required is peculiar to the actual gun.
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