ESRB: Bad Moon Rising Delays Halo 2 Vista Release

ESRB: Bad Moon Rising Delays Halo 2 Vista Release

May 25, 2007
There's been a good deal of web buzz over the last 24 hours regarding the decision to delay the release of the Halo 2 Vista version. This explanation from the ESRB arrived a little while ago:
After the M (Mature 17+) rating assignment was issued for Halo 2 for Vista and just prior to the shipment of the game to retail, Microsoft notified ESRB about pertinent content found in a map editor tool that is being bundled with the game. 

The content in question, although likely to be inaccessible to the vast majority of users, displays a photograph of an individual showing his bare backside to the user when a particular error occurs, and thus warrants a ‘Partial Nudity’ content descriptor in order to alert consumers to its presence in the product. 

Microsoft has therefore applied stickers with correct ESRB rating information to the packaging of virtually all copies that will ship to retail in the U.S. and Canada.  We have been advised by Microsoft that future runs of the game will be produced without the content in question, thus negating the need for the descriptor to be displayed on those versions. 

ESRB’s job is to ensure that games are appropriately labeled, and that is precisely what we did in this case.  We greatly appreciate Microsoft’s cooperation in this matter.

Microsoft now seems ready to get behind a May 31st Halo 2 Vista release, no if, ands or butts...

Comments

¬¬ thats just stupid, because of Jack T. we now have ESRB looking for female backsides in a mapeditor when an error occures... thats like saying:

Yes I nearly shot her... but thats because I dropped the spare tire from my car onto my working bench to hard, which made the gun inside the drawer go off and nearly hit my girlfriend...

in other words... does a game really have to be 17+ just because of a female back that no-one will every see.
Left alone... pornographic OR SEX... really AMERICA GET A FRICKING GRIP ON YOURSELF!

BTW, that moon in the picture looks a lot like the one in Zelda - Majora's mask, that thing is creeping me out :P
whoop de doo an bare butt who cares games online have other nudity and the ESRB does'nt care. WTF!
Brandon
careful to the point of being fooling and undermining them selfs at the same time.

the ESRB needs replacing but in the current climate it would probably be worse making AO out of all M class games >>
Bah, I just think its stupid, I mean, its already M, just the way that San Andreas was M, oh, thats right, theres nudity in it, hell, not even sex in this, its just an ass, not even an ass that moves or anything.

*Shakes head* Still stupid if ya ask me, but, after the SA deal, and thanks to Billary and other politicians, they have to be careful about it, ugh.
The most disturbing part of this story: it only took four comments before someone mentioned Jack Thompson.
Brandon
pretty much the ESRB is now is a headless chicken they wanted to AO bioshock if you could "hurt" the little sisters now they have to prance around the issue and put them into god mode, they are handleing it well but it gives me less faith in the ESRB.
"we have a pic
http://kotaku.com/gaming/coders-gone-wild/esrb-comments-on-halo-2s-naked...

I am sorry but that sorry arse dosent even rate on the scale its not sexaul or “offensive”. "

Thats it, thats IT!? They're going all anal because of that, gah, I can't believe it.
first thing.. I actually think I know what that error means.

Secondly... Does it actually come on the game disk? or do the mod tools have to be downloaded separately?

Third.. Oh my god I saw much worse in the locker rooms during middle school and highschool... oh wait have they started destroying physical education in middle schools and highschools the way they destroyed recess in elementry school?

Last.. Well i guess there are worse things. I figured it would have been an error texture or a place holder texture. It obviously intentional, however I doubt it would be a prank, I think its just a joke within the group that made the map editor. Possibly an incredibly funny inside joke. Alas, geek/nerd humor abounds.
Lol and here I was hoping it was master chief
Very likely the person(s) involved in this goofy mess were not MGS employees. The Halo 2 PC editor was developed by a 3rd party contractor (which I discovered through a news item posted here on GP a couple weeks back). So whatever happens to them will not dictated directly by MGS. Though it would not surprise me if MGS goes back to the developer and says that the cost of the stickers is coming out of their first royalty payment.

MGS takes the ESRB ratings seriously.
101 Dalmatians would be Disney's first R rated cartoon if this R rated from smoking thing happens XD
Now that I've seen the picture, I guess it is kinda like goatse, haha.
we have a pic
http://kotaku.com/gaming/coders-gone-wild/esrb-comments-on-halo-2s-naked...

I am sorry but that sorry arse dosent even rate on the scale its not sexaul or "offensive".
@Mossberg

That's hilarious, thanks for the find!
Well, it’s kind of like that crap I heard about people trying to make it so movies with a scene of someone smoking in it would automatically get an R rating. Just think, Austin Powers would go from PG-13 to R.

Never mind Austin Powers. The original 101 Dalmations would go from G to R because the villianess was seldom without her trademark cigarette. Much like Whale Rider went from G to PG-13 because one scene had a bong in the background, and was re-rated for drug references.
"although likely to be inaccessible to the vast majority of users"

And that stopped the s**tstorm last time, didn't it? Oh wait.

And yeah, that was terrible.
At least it wasn't goatse.
For anyone who hasn't seen it, there's a screenshot over on the HBO forums:
http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=804902

Maybe not technically SFW, but it's nothing The Simpsons hasn't done.
The system works.

Someone better get fired over that though.
@Nekojin

"A few more details: The error can only occur in the map editor, and it’s a “.ass” error."

Really? That's awesome! :D
:: Stands and gives Microsoft a standing ovation. ::
That was for Microsoft's lack of a cover up...
Wait...
That's what the problem was in the first place... a lack of a "cover up".
:)

:: Crickets chirping ::

:: sigh ::
Never mind.

:: Wanders off to find a high power telescope to watch Hannah have her "Family Fun". :) ::

(Really, though, glad to see others not pulling a Take-Two. If it happens during an "error", though, does that count as an Easter Egg? And what is Microsoft's comment regarding the person who did that?)

Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
I did a google news search for "jack thompson" earlier today for grins and giggles, and found several reports of Jack being the first to "take on microsoft" and that he has gotten Halo 2 delayed over "hidden pr0n" so i think many places are already confuseing the issue.
Likely it wasn't a prank, it is probably just a strange rendering for a model and from the screen, it probably came out incorrectly and thus rendered improperly. Models just have layers of polygons over it, and well something resembling a bare ass can be done by simply giving it a certain shade of color.

Anyway, how it happened is all speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone gets fired over it. Give it some time before Jack goes around looking for it and passes it off as trying to turn children into homosexuals.
I honestly don't see the odds of it falling into a child's hands.

It is:
-Rated M with a warning label.
-Only for Windows for Vista (we all know how useful Vista is and how expensive it is)
-Decent computer to run Vista (not likely a child would receive this from a parent)
-Unlikely to be found by a mere child.

In any case, despite all these factors, media and Jack will treat it as if it is as simple as picking up a Wii-mote.
For some reason I'm reminded of that old "I'm Free!" error from Rise Of The Triad.
@JC: From what I've heard, it was a prank -- a photo of a guy mooning the camera, to be exact. However, it's still pretty damn tame.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to a family-friendly (literally, since some families take their kids) nude beach ;)
@JC: Read this again:

"The content in question, although likely to be inaccessible to the vast majority of users, displays a photograph of an individual showing his bare backside to the user when a particular error occurs, and thus warrants a ‘Partial Nudity’ content descriptor in order to alert consumers to its presence in the product."

A few more details: The error can only occur in the map editor, and it's a ".ass" error. So, the odds that it's a glitch are slim to none. From all accounts, it sounds exactly like the sort of prank that some programmers pull.
Well, it's kind of like that crap I heard about people trying to make it so movies with a scene of someone smoking in it would automatically get an R rating. Just think, Austin Powers would go from PG-13 to R.

Some people are just way too uptight, and sadly that'll never change.
Thank you Microsoft. Now, when someone takes this the wrong way, you can just say you notified someone about it... now, lets see if Jack can catch on.
Nobody is (yet) getting that irrational about it. It's simply a programmer's prank that wasn't noticed and pulled out until after the master disc went to the production line. Because nobody wants to get singled out as "hiding content" from the ESRB, they disclosed it for the discs that still have the joke pic on them.

It's called covering their asses (ironically enough).
Seriously, do people ever just stop and realize how ridiculous they are? When did mooning someone go from being a harmless prank to a perverse sex crime?

(Yes, I'm aware the term "sex crime" has not yet been raised, but the implication is there.)
I don't see it as the system being broken. It didn't change the rating afterall, they just decided to do a little CYA by adding another content descriptor.

Remember all that hubbub about "ooo, there was like a reference to beer, and you didn't put 'drug use' on the descriptor". So I forsee the descriptors just getting longer and longer, until people complain they contain too much detail.
I don't see this as the ESRB being faulty, either. In order to prevent some whiney parent from going "OMG, my child saw a bare backside, he's mentally scarred for LIFE" while the child laughs, they're going to take a small step and add it in so nothing nips them in the bud.

Actually, I see this as overreaction. A single instance where a couple of cheeks are shown? I can see why they're doing it, but... I'm just afraid that game companies are going to start fidgeting and re-rating things based on small, virtually insignificant incidents.
And Jack calls the system broken?
its such a consern means the system is broken..that and being able to harm a little sister on bioshock makes for AO so they "change" it? what the hell is happening to the world?
"The content in question, although likely to be inaccessible to the vast majority of users, displays a photograph of an individual showing his bare backside to the user when a particular error occurs, and thus warrants a ‘Partial Nudity’ content descriptor in order to alert consumers to its presence in the product. "

ZOMG ze bum!

$100 says the mass media report the nudity part, and not the fact that it was a bare bum.
Bloody hell, which joker put that in!?
You know, there's a special level of hell reserved for people who use such horrible puns.
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