Feds Release Virginia Tech Report: No Mention of Games

Feds Release Virginia Tech Report: No Mention of Games

June 21, 2007
Despite claims by Miami attorney Jack Thompson and followers of Lyndon LaRouche, a federal government report on issues related to the April 16th Virgina Tech rampage makes no mention at all of video games, much less as a causal factor.

The 26-page report to President Bush was issued on June 13th and was a joint effort by Health & Human Services Secretary Michael Leavitt (left), Education Secretary Margaret Spellings and Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez.

Leavitt was certainly aware of claims that video games were involved, so their lack of inclusion seems especially pointed. In particular, the video game issue was raised during Leavitt's April 22nd appearance on Meet the Press as well as during a subsequent joint press conference with Utah Gov. John Huntsman.

Meanwhile, a state-level commission continues its own research into the rampage. As the federal government report notes:
This report does not seek to investigate the specifics of the Virginia Tech tragedy itself. That work is currently being done by the Virginia Tech Review Panel appointed by Governor Kaine. Instead, this report summarizes the major recurring themes we heard in our visits across the country. It includes critical steps state and local leaders identified to address school violence and mental illness at the community level.

As reported by GamePolitics the Virginia Tech Review Panel has heard testimony blaming video games on three occasions from members of the Lyndon LaRouche PAC.

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[...] GamePolitics has been following the saga of the Virginia Tech Review Panel since they began, documenting the semi-invasion of the the process by followers of nutty political figure Lyndon LaRouche, seemingly hell-bent on blaming the entire incident on video games. From telling the panel that violent games should be banned like heroin to endlessly testifying against a hobby that had nothing to do with the incident at all. When the report was finally released last week, it contained no mention of video games. Case closed, right? [...]
Well, my first inclination is to say 'Of course, that's because games were in no way responsible for Cho's actions, Cho was.'

That said, it IS good news at least that initial reports appear to have been keeping up to speed with the whole 'Cho and Computer Games' thing.
my first inclination as well mr. Robotus, except i'm in more of a 'like duh' kind of vibe (:
It's sad that these anti-game bastards didn't even get a clue of what is causing the Virginia Tech Massacre to happen. Blame the rude and violent teenagers who are causing these problems, not on entertainment like movies and games.
In many ways, if I'm reading this right, it is the more 'important' review from the point of view of avoiding a blame-game?

After all, even if the 'specifics' of Cho's case HAD involved compulsive computer-gaming, it would be considered individual to this case, and not taken as a general affector? Kind of like how we can be pretty sure that Basketball won't be blamed despite the fact he DID play it compulsively?
QUICK SPELLING MISTAKE!

In particular, the video game issue GAME up during Leavitt’s April 22nd appearance

Surely its came? (thought it was worth pointing out before to many people saw it)
Good news. Ahhh breath of fresh air. Smells of pine with a distinguished fresh mint taste.
That report was long on vague strategies and short on actual solutions. I'm glad there was no mention of video games, but the report DID say that its purpose wasn't to get into the specifics of Virginia Tech. The actual review panel could still try to slip something in.

@Radio Guy:

Come on dude, that's a bit sophomoric, isn't it? How about your thoughts on the actual article?
Oh SNAP, looks like Jack and ol' Lyndy need to find another massacre to blame on video games. Either that, and right-out lie that it was a conspiracy to keep video games from taking blame for some crazy guy shooting up the place
Are anyone of us really suprised?
It's good that most of important people in the politics agree with us gamers. It's a tough fight between gamers and anti-gamers, but question is, which side will you be on? For me, it's the gamers.
I'm proud to be a gamer. and I'm proud to say I support any industry that suffers from fools that desire to censor it.
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To Terrible Tom,

"I’m proud to be a gamer. and I’m proud to say I support any industry that suffers from fools that desire to censor it."

That's great! I like you, I like your spirit!
Anyone know where one could hunt down a copy of the report?
Actually, I AM surprised. You'd think a major study going on that has heard the LaRouche-ites 3 seperate times would have included SOMETHING about video games being a factor.
@VAMinion - the report is linked in the article. You can grab it there.
Clearly there is a conspiracy here to hide the truth! They're being paid off by those digital devils!
@PHEONIXZERO
Digital Devils: Crap! How the hell did you find us out so soon? They're on to us guys, RUN!


XD Sorry Have too much sugar in me for my own good at the moment. Good to see that not everyone hops onto the "Blame them darned vidjamagames" bandwagon in serious matters.
@hayabusa75 - Indeed i suppose, i was just too lazy to email GP

I suppose this result is hardly surprising, although I am interested as to the true causes of the incident are and how the organsisations they apply to will react.

NRA anyone?
No surprise here. After all, the people who actualy KNOW THINGS like the police that investigated, found no link to games at all. It was Jack "the biggest liar in the universe" THompson who made it all up. Just like the "evidence" against videogames. And people followed him to try to get it included in an official report. But they lost. Score Gamers-1, Antigamers- "In the negatives, but I lost count around -10,000"
We know our Censorcrat foes very well...this will not stop them.
But of course, like other events that go against what the media has been saying, this will get little to none media exposure. Whereas Jack T. managed to appear live, before the bodies were even cold, to blame video games. Which was of course false. But who do you think convinced more people?
@Terrible Tom
I support that idea too.

@GP
Thanks for tossing this story up! There is absolutely nothing about it on Fox/CNN/MSNBC.
Good to see a few people decided to actually follow the facts.

I had stopped thinking that was possible in today's political world.
Our old pal Dave Grossman apparently thinks the fed report misses the point:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/6/20/112817.shtml?s=ic

But, surprisingly, he doesn't mention "murder simulators" once either. In other news, pigs fly, cats are sleeping with dogs, more at eleven..
The Lad... I mean Larouche-ites and Jack Thompson trying to defraud the report or misquoting it in 3. 2. 1...
Well, the feds don't have to worry about elections or appealing to the public so they don't have to listen to anti-game nuts.
It's still sad, though. Doesn't matter if even the official report denies claims that video games were even remotely responsible here, the damage is done with Jack, LaRouche followers and "Dr." Phil being the idiots that they are and trying to make games a scapegoat just so they could have a little bit of attention.
@Radio Guy:

Speaking of the NRA, if you check out the report there's a whole section relating to controlling firearm distribution to mentally unstable individuals. They want to tighten up gun control, but they're backdooring the issue by putting the focus on more accurately assessing who the "crazies" are, and making sure they don't get to pull any triggers.
"pooned"
w00t w00t
@kurisu7885 :

"The Lad… I mean Larouche-ites and Jack Thompson trying to defraud the report or misquoting it in 3. 2. 1…"

0 !! Check it out here : http://www.larouchepac.com/pages/breaking_news/2007/06/22/bush_va_coveru...
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[...] A federal government report released earlier this month about the issues surrounding the Virginia Tech shooting made no mention video games whatsoever, a point that Game Politics notes is substantial since contributor Michael Leavitt (pictured) had previously mentioned being aware of a potential video game connection. [...]

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