U.S. Senators in Firefight Over Full Spectrum Warrior
U.S. Senators in Firefight Over Full Spectrum Warrior
July 18, 2007
A dust-up between a pair of U.S. senators has expanded to include the popular 2004 military-themed video game Full Spectrum Warrior.As reported by the Omaha World-Herald, the battle between Sen. Ben Nelson (D-NE) and Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) is over earmarks, the practice of appropriating federal funds for projects favored by members of Congress.
The Nelson-Coburn spat began last week when Coburn tried to eliminate a $7.5 million earmark which Nelson (seen at left) hoped to steer toward Omaha defense contractor 21st Century Systems Inc. As reported by the World-News:
A Coburn spokesman compared 21CSI military computer software to video games and criticized the project as classic pork barrel spending.
Nelson defended the 21CSI earmark as important to national defense and fired back by digging up a $5 million earmark which went in part to fund development of Full Spectrum Warrior.
The earmark... involved the Institute of Creative Technologies, which has received millions through federal earmarks over the years... One product of the funding was a video game called Full Spectrum Warrior that proved commercially successful but of limited military use...
A spokesman for Sen. Nelson said:
Senator Coburn's derided the research and development work done in Nebraska by mischaracterizing it as 'video games' and deemed it unworthy of funding, while ignoring and tacitly approving a $5 million earmark for his home state that actually does fund video game development.
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ZippyDSMlee: Don;t talk to MS/LIve users that you do not know....is jsut easier that way...
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Posted 03/19/10 at 05:39pm
Valdearg: @JDKJ: Well, it's not like you were very subtle, there..
Valdearg: @JDKJ: Well, it's not like you were very subtle, there..
Posted 03/19/10 at 05:18pm
JDKJ: @Val": You got me there. That one was pure troll. And posted in memory of DarkSaber, who hasn't been around much, lately.
JDKJ: @Val": You got me there. That one was pure troll. And posted in memory of DarkSaber, who hasn't been around much, lately.
Posted 03/19/10 at 02:36pm
Andrew Eisen: JDKJ - Probably the widow/widower.
Andrew Eisen: JDKJ - Probably the widow/widower.
Posted 03/19/10 at 02:33pm
ZippyDSMlee: JD:who gives a shit about you :P
ZippyDSMlee: JD:who gives a shit about you :P
Posted 03/19/10 at 02:33pm
Valdearg: Lol.. Wow, JDKJ. Troll much?
Valdearg: Lol.. Wow, JDKJ. Troll much?
Posted 03/19/10 at 02:27pm
JDKJ: Who gives a rat's ass about the children of fallen soldiers?
JDKJ: Who gives a rat's ass about the children of fallen soldiers?
Posted 03/19/10 at 02:16pm
Andrew Eisen: I completely agree.
Andrew Eisen: I completely agree.
Posted 03/19/10 at 02:15pm
Valdearg: If they really wanted to help the troops, they should donate their money to a legitimate charity with a good cash in/out ratio.
Valdearg: If they really wanted to help the troops, they should donate their money to a legitimate charity with a good cash in/out ratio.
Posted 03/19/10 at 02:14pm
Valdearg: It's just offensive that people who attend these things think they are helping the troops, when in reality, Hannity is using MOST of the money to live large in the cities he travels to. He could at least scale down his accommodations..
Valdearg: It's just offensive that people who attend these things think they are helping the troops, when in reality, Hannity is using MOST of the money to live large in the cities he travels to. He could at least scale down his accommodations..
Posted 03/19/10 at 02:13pm
Andrew Eisen: Val - But they did get something and that's better than nothing. Also, the Freedom Concert site is clear that expenses are subtracted from the donated amount so while it’s not fraud (from what little I’ve seen) it is pretty crummy.
Andrew Eisen: Val - But they did get something and that's better than nothing. Also, the Freedom Concert site is clear that expenses are subtracted from the donated amount so while it’s not fraud (from what little I’ve seen) it is pretty crummy.
Posted 03/19/10 at 02:12pm
ZippyDSMlee: fou fundrasier, from a fou consertive, who would have thought :P.
ZippyDSMlee: fou fundrasier, from a fou consertive, who would have thought :P.
Posted 03/19/10 at 02:11pm
Valdearg: The problem, Zip, is that barely ANY of the proceeds are going to the children. It's all going so hannity can line his own pockets and enjoy a life of luxury. He is a grade A Piece of Human Crap.
Valdearg: The problem, Zip, is that barely ANY of the proceeds are going to the children. It's all going so hannity can line his own pockets and enjoy a life of luxury. He is a grade A Piece of Human Crap.
Posted 03/19/10 at 02:09pm
ZippyDSMlee: Hanaity cn afford to pay for it himself so all proceeds go to the childernz or whatever. .....
ZippyDSMlee: Hanaity cn afford to pay for it himself so all proceeds go to the childernz or whatever. .....
Posted 03/19/10 at 02:09pm
ZippyDSMlee: But anyway you want to pad your rep with a funrasier get 80% to the people its suppose to go to....
ZippyDSMlee: But anyway you want to pad your rep with a funrasier get 80% to the people its suppose to go to....
Posted 03/19/10 at 02:03pm
ZippyDSMlee: VLag:thats ture but alot of cop and fireman and other thigns are under 10% to what they give to what they are raising money for
ZippyDSMlee: VLag:thats ture but alot of cop and fireman and other thigns are under 10% to what they give to what they are raising money for
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But seriously, federal military funding is an important thing to consider and we don't want this money going to frivolous means. But if it is for more serious and better simulation software then I am all for it.
You're both idiots. Please retire.
They don't need to add funding to get our troops out of Iraq.
How was this supposed $5 Million dollar earmark for Coburn's home state? ICT is in California not Oklahoma.
That aside, as I remember Full Spectrum Warrior came out a while ago and was derived from a larger, purely military project. Perhaps this is merely a case of using hind site to see that funding these type of projects is a waste of money, as it was probably not known what the end result would be when ICT received that earmark.
In any case, earmarks are a classic form of government pork. Sadly, since it would be up to congress to make them illegal, and they all use them to help get reelected, then the chance of such practices becoming illegal are slim to none.
but without the prok he piggies go to Washington to fight for what reason is there for them to go? surely not to help govern the people!
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