
Yesterday,
GamePolitics concluded a
four-part feature which was my written response to a series of outrageous and personal allegations made by controversial attorney Jack Thompson.
We wrapped up yesterday's article with this quote from U.S. District Court Judge Paul Huck:
Thompson submits nothing beyond wild accusations of a vast conspiracy against him…
Judge Huck penned that line in a December, 2006 opinion dismissing one of Thompson's numeorus suits against the Florida Bar. As reported on
GamePolitics, the Bar is currently pursuing disciplinary charges against Thompson, with a trial before the Florida Supreme Court scheduled for September 4th.
Late yesterday Thompson incorporated the Judge Huck quote from GP's article into a
motion for recusal filed with the U.S. District Court which is hearing one of his two current claims against the Florida Bar. In this suit, which also names the justices of the Florida Supreme Court as defendants, Thompson has been trying to persuade Judge Huck to remove himself from the case. Thompson's claim is that the line quoted by GP demonstrates that Judge Huck is prejudiced against the anti-game attorney:
From Thompson's motion:
Well, proof today as to the hurtful nature of that baseless aside by the court is to be found at a particular video game industry web site, http://www.gamepolitics.com/, whose owner and editor, Dennis McCauley, has himself filed a SLAPP Bar complaint against Thompson. Thompson did not wildly imagine that complaint’s existence, nor does he imagine the following found at the end of this video game web site’s latest attack upon Thompson today...
“In the end, I must think back to Federal District Court Judge Paul Huck, who, in dismissing a recent case filed by Thompson against the Florida Bar, wrote: ‘Thompson submits nothing beyond wild accusations of a vast conspiracy against him.’”
How does this court like being cited on the Internet as proof that Thompson is a fabricator? How odd that the video game industry finds this over-the-top comment about Thompson by this court useful because of its hurtfulness but this fair and impartial court does not. This is the same court that has held forth as to its expertise in the nuances of the meaning of the word “belied,” and yet we are all to conclude that this court’s use of the phrase “wild accusations of a vast conspiracy” mean nothing and affect nothing.
For the entire 4-part series detailing Thompson's attack on
GamePolitics, see:
Part 1:
The Demonizing
Part 2:
Game Industry Stooge
Part 3:
Raising the Bar
Part 4:
The Bookstorm
Huck denied a previous Thompson motion to recuse himself on July 18th.
Comments
A MAC ban is completely and totally worthless if someone is more than one hop away.
I have a simple question for you. The due process that you are providing as evidence purports to people who are making the BAR aware of a lawyer who may be acting whilst mentally incapable of doing so.
How is this relevent to the BAR already being aware of this possibility and acting on their own behalf? Are you really suggesting that the BAR would have to complain to ITSELF in writing before it could act?
To have a process this that would, in my opinion, be 'insanity'.
Proof reading should be done before posting Chuma...
@Mr. Thompson,
In all honesty and sincerity, sir, I would fully recommend that you look into the possibility of professional psychiatric help for yourself. You are not well, sir, a fact that is becoming increasingly apparent from your 'press releases' and legal filings. I think that if you take a few steps back and look at your comments with a clear head, you'll realize that you've lost all sense of professionalism; indeed, your filings of late would be more appropriate as LiveJournal comments than as legal documents. I'm certain you do not truly believe you can convince anyone that you are in the right with the hyperbole and paranoid imaginings you insist on writing.
Get help, sir. We, the gaming community, have never minded honest disagreement, but what you've been doing doesn't help anyone.
There's only one thing to say about your latest filing in your case against your own bar:
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
Works for me. But then, I usually search "Party or Attorney".
www.floridasupremecourt.org
Docket Search
Leave as Case number
Leave the SC07
And just enter 80 or 354 in the other field.
Comes up for me.
I wish some of the other Federal Courts didn't use PACER. Even doing searches cost.
Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
SC06-2032 =The petition for writ of mandamus is hereby dismissed on the Court's own
motion based on petitioner's failure to timely submit the filing fee or a proper motion
for leave to proceed in forma pauperis/affidavit of indigency in accordance with this
Court's order dated October 18, 2006.
1... "It is akin to choosing between castration by knife or castration by chemical." -your imagination is more violent than what's in Manhunt .
2... "The Bar has allowed its rage, its ideological agenda, and its selective prosecution propensities ... to trump not only the civil rights laws of this country but common sense as well." That is a description of your own tactics against Take-Two.
3... "God is nothing if He is not clever, and make no mistake, Thompson believes God is in the mix in all of this. Thompson, as a Presbyterian, believes and in fact knows that God is in the mix of everything. Call Thompson crazy, but omnipresence and omniscience are pretty mainstream theological concepts." You're in the practice of law, not theology. Your duty is to treat the letter of the law as sacred, not "the word of God" or what's in the bible or whatever you get your Presbyterian stuff from.
4... Your efforts to block the publication of video games have gone against the protections of the first ammendment of the Constitution.
In addition to protection of the "freedom of speech," the first ammendment also protects the "free exercise of religion." By inserting your religious views into your litigation practices and statements, you are ignoring the basic separation of church and state "stuff" in the constitution.
Even then, the level of paranoia you exhibit is pretty clear sign of metal disorder. If the entire industry and gamers and drug cartels and whatever the hell else you have named your attacker to be were actualy trying to crush you, youd been crushed a long time ago.Most the industry just wants you off their backs and most gamers couldnt give a crap what happens to you as long as you never actualy succeed in any of your crazy schemes, all of which have fallen flat under the weight of your own inadequecy as a lawyer and a person.
That's the sound of Cracked Thompson unraveling.
You mean mistakes like accusing a Bar member of extortion by invoking the wrong Rule? You mean that kind of mistake Jack? Or do you mean mistakes like accusing the VTech killer of being a Gamer before he had even been named?
Maybe you meant the plethora of 'mistakes' you made in your interview with Popzart.....
He could have called everyone (judge, Bar officials, etc) "Pixelantes" in that statement.
Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
"The Bar has a choice. It can admit its mistakes (only crazy people don’t admit their mistakes), and get this all behind all of us, or The Bar can live with the rather frightening consequences of what it has done, to Thompson now for the second time."
I guess that makes you off the charts for sanity.
I think that if the courts are deciding to continue with their, as you basiclly described it as, pointless & self-mutilating case, then they probably know exactly what they are getting into. Granted reasonable people make mistakes, I'm sure after the numerous complaints made because of you, the inappropriate and unethical treatment you give others (including judges and other staff), & the childish backlash you give to people who make any comments towards you that you find offensive.
Why won't you humor us and just take the evaluation?
if you truly are sane (yeah right) then you have nothing to fear from the psych test.
your cowardice proves your insanity.
P.S. calling us children and then asking for our names are the actions of a child molester
???...Ace beats Jack?
@nightwng2000
oh i know, that's what i was trying to allude to with that last line...
Really jack must worship a pretender cause many of the actions he takes are what i believe Jesus would never teach. I was raised under the concept of jesus's love, peace and forgiveness, and Jack has shown nothing but hate and takes pleasure in attacking enemies... i mean, i know the concept of loving your enemy is hard, but at the very least you shouldn't find pleasure in attacking enemies... deriving pleasure from harming anyone(much less harming them to begin with), even an enemy, is something i really don't think jesus would ever teach... at least that's how i was raised
Why do you continue to waste your time by filing writs of mandamus and numerous supplements thereto? Don't you understand what the Court said its 07/13/2007 Order denying you petition for mandamus? The Court literally said:
"To the extent the Respondent seeks mandamus relief, the petition for writ of mandamus and supplements are denied because respondent has an adequate alternative legal remedy by way of a petition for review after the referee issues her report."
You do know what this means, don't you? Hmmm, maybe not. Lemme help you. It means that you've no basis whatsoever for a grant of mandamus, at least not until you've exhausted your right to petition for review after Judge Tunis issues her report--which, hopefully, recommends your disbarment. Let me try to put this in a form even you can understand: Right now, them mandamus planes just a'int gonna fly. You may want to rethink your strategy.
Or is it is that you think there's some strategic advantage to blowing smoke up the Court's ass?
Either way, good luck.
Either way, you're losing your license and that's all there is to it.
BY A LAWYER THAT THE FLORIDA BAR ALLEGES IS INSANE"
Well, at least he game a warning.
Ha...haha...hahahaha...it's pretty much "Insert your own joke here" at this point, folks.
Have you forgotten when John Bruce exploited his sister-in-law's illness to push his agenda?
In that particular post, he indicated a desire to "pray against" his opponents. A sort of religious spiritual terrorist threat, if you will.
But, as I always say, John Bruce's "God" shows to be more and more a Demon Pretender to the throne of Heaven and not a true honorable, ethical, intelligent God. Such Demons crop up pretending to be various Gods of various religions. And their followers tend to be bigoted, dishonorable, and unethical, though, from their viewpoint, that is how their "God" wants them to be. Some of the most famous followers of such Demons would be John Bruce "Jack" Thompson, Jim Jones, Eric Rudolph, Fred Phelps, and Osama Bin Lauden. Obviously, I've listed many who claim their "God" to be Christian, but also obviously not all are. And there is certainly an endless supply of such names crossing the spectrum of religions.
Again, these individuals worship Demons who PRETEND to be Gods of various religions. Therefore, their beliefs should not be confused with true, honorable, ethical "Gods".
Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
John B. Thompson,
Plaintiff,
v. CASE NUMBERS SC06-2032, SCO7-80, SC07-354
The Florida Bar,
Defendant.
VERIFIED SUPPLEMENT TO PLAINTIFF’S PETITION FOR WRIT OF MANDAMUS
[WARNING: THIS PLEADING HAS BEEN PREPARED AND SUBMITTED
BY A LAWYER THAT THE FLORIDA BAR ALLEGES IS INSANE]
COMES NOW plaintiff, John B. Thompson (hereinafter Thompson), and hereby supplements his petition for writ of mandamus, stating:
1. As a Briton would say, The Bar has made a hash of its pursuit of Jack Thompson. With what is alleged under oath herein, that assertion is not even debatable.
2. With Rules-breaking, unethical staff counsel, with an ideologically compromised and federal government-targeted designated reviewer in Ben Kuehne who was the last person on the Board of Governors who could assure the “fairness” of proceedings against his ideological opposite, with an immediate past president, Hank Coxe, who claimed before seven witness that Thompson should be suspended for mere “vitriol,” with a Board of Governors that is presently doling out money to the ACLU to assist minor girls to circumvent Florida’s parental notification of abortion law, Florida Statute 390.01115, and with a Bar referee, Dava Tunis, who has allowed no discovery and denied the most basic due process in her courtroom, The Florida Bar has now made a fatal error that this court should seek to remedy. The Bar has allowed its rage, its ideological agenda, and its selective prosecution propensities identified by Bar President Miles McGrane’s poll of Florida Bar members to trump not only the civil rights laws of this country but common sense as well. Plaintiff has no earthly idea whether anyone is reading this stuff at the Supreme Court, but somebody ought to read this filing, for herein may be found a means of resolving this mess.
2. As the court should know, a mediation of this imbroglio was requested by Thompson for years. A “mediation” finally occurred, but it was attended only by The Bar’s staff counsel, Sheila Tuma, in violation of the core concept of mediation—that a representative for the parties must attend, each with full authority to negotiate and settle. Going into the mediation, held in the Miami Bar offices, Sheila Tuma assured plaintiff and his lawyer in writing that she had “full authority” to do just that. That was a falsehood, to be kind. As proof of the falsehood, Ms. Tuma literally had to suspend the mediation to give Thompson’s counteroffer to her Director of Lawyer Regulation, Ken Marvin, and the new leftwing ideologue chosen to be Thompson’s designated reviewer, Steven Chaykin. Chaykin of course is so ideologically driven that he was rebuffed by even the Board of Governors. So now Mr. Chaykin is in charge of “fairness” for Thompson.
3. Be that as it may, at the faux mediation, as this court already knows (hang in there, the other shoe will be dropping, infra), Ms. Tuma offered the following “deal”: Thompson would have to submit to a 91-day suspension, plead guilty to everything, and accept a forced psychiatric evaluation by the Florida Lawyers Assistant program. This was not to be an assessment for anger management counseling. The purpose of the assessment was and is to find that Thompson is incompetent.
4. This was quite a Hobson’s choice, and it constitutes extortion, which is why the Miami-Dade State Attorney’s office is presently looking, after meeting with Thompson, with proceeding further with a criminal investigation, possibly to be pursued by a special prosecutor requested of the Governor, just as Thompson successfully persuaded the Broward State Attorney recently to seek and secure a special prosecutor to investigate allegedly corrupt judges in Broward. Thompson was happy to help.
5. This Bar, that this court is supposed to supervise now, not just when it has destroyed what is left of a lawyer’s career, thus confronted Thompson with an impossible choice and a nonsensical one, by demanding: While you are probably impaired and incompetent, consent with a consensual capacity you do not have to a 91-day suspension, plead guilty to things for which you may not be responsible by virtue of your alleged incapacity, OR we will have you permanently disbarred.
6. Let’s see now, Thompson is to choose between the second attempt by this Bar, with this court’s participation, in a public humiliation of him with lunacy tests, as it did before, to distrous results for this court and The Bar over a decade ago, or Thompson is to go forward with a trial, during which he is allegedly mentally incapacitated, and endure certain disbarment. That is what happens at Bar trials in which the referee has denied all defenses by denying all discovery. Thompson was born at night but not last night. Remember too that this is a referee who called Thompson’s defense “propaganda” and who denied Thompson a continuance while his wife was enduring chemotherapy for ovarian cancer. One would expect a jurist who is a mother with minor children to appreciate such a burden, but it would appear that the agenda to which she has signed on trumps even parenthood.
7. Yesterday the allegedly insane lawyer made a phone call. He called The Bar’s Ethics Hotline at 800-235-8619. The number is conveniently listed on page 2 of the most recent The Florida Bar News which has denied publication of Thompson’s paid ad about this mess and which also reports new Bar President Frank Angones’ unintentionally funny calls upon our profession to “raise the integrity and esteem of our profession” while he knowingly participates in his Bar’s efforts to pathologize a Christian lawyer’s pro bono conservative activism.
8. Thompson had a question for the Ethics Hotline folks, and it was this: How does a lawyer concerned about the mental health of another lawyer get The Bar to deal with the alleged problem?
9. God is nothing if He is not clever, and make no mistake, Thompson believes God is in the mix in all of this. Thompson, as a Presbyterian, believes and in fact knows that God is in the mix of everything. Call Thompson crazy, but omnipresence and omniscience are pretty mainstream theological concepts. Guess who Thompson, whose identity was not know, was given on the phone? Why, it was Kenneth Marvin, Director of Lawyer Regulation for The Florida Bar. Thompson felt honored. He was dealing with the head guy himself. Mr. Marvin was courteous. He was patient. And because he was not lawyered up, he winsomely committed the truth.
10. Under oath, Thompson now states that Mr. Marvin said, categorically, that the Rule that must be first followed is Bar Rule 3-7.13. We read it, on-line, together. Mr. Marvin was clear and the Rule is clear. If a lawyer or anyone thinks that a lawyer may be laboring under a mental defect or illness, then the concerned person must submit a sworn Bar complaint to the appropriate Bar office alleging with specificity precisely what the lawyer has done that gives rise to these concerns.
11. The Bar then forwards the specific complaint to the target, to use a term with with Bar Governor Ben Kuehne is painfully aware, and thereby disclose to him the identity of the complainant and what the nature of specific complaint is. The staff counsel then investigate and process the complaint, taking into account the rejoinder of the respondent to specific mental health allegations. The complaint is a real “complaint,” in that it must constitute a separate, stand-alone complaint case, with a real Bar case file number and everything else that is attendant to a complaint for misconduct.
12. To proceed to the point of actually requesting that anexamination be done, the Bar staff must first go to a real grievance committee (they actually have real numbers and are compromised of real people), and the committee is to make a probable cause determination. Mr. Marvin helpfully offered that the wise course is to ask the allegedly deranged lawyer to appear before the actual grievance committee so that it can assess him, with their own eyes and ears, to see if he or she is in fact bonkers.
This latter procedure is a great idea, as all lawyers should know that the right of an accused to confront his accusers is a pretty basic due process concept. In fact, its in the bloody Constitution. The concept is, oh, five hundred years old, if not older.
13. Then and only then, Mr. Marvin helpfully explained, does Rule 3-5.2 kick in, if the lawyer, about whom probable cause has been found that he is the second coming of Charles Hinkley. The Bar officials designated in that Rule execute affidavits relying upon the first affidavit and upon the layered protection of the grievance committee findings and petition the Supreme Court for a temporary suspension pending examination by a health care provider chosen by the Florida Lawyers Assistance program. These are not Thompson’s words, they are Mr. Marvin committing the truth because he did not know with whom he was speaking. For Biblical endorsement of this approach, please refer to the numerous Scriptural endorsement of the use of secrecy to discover the truth. It is the basic concept behind all police undercover work, surveillance, and the like. And it works.
14. Mr. Marvin concluded this phone call which occurred between 2:15 and 2:224 pm yesterday, July 26, 2007, by noting that this is the only way this process can work, that it is used to protect the accusers and the accused, and that it cannot be done any other way. Fascinating. Damning.
15. Consider how The Bar, for its various reasons and agendas, has “done it” to Thompson: There is no sworn complaint. There is no bar file complaint. No bar complaint file number. There has been no specificity as to what Thompson has done that suggests to a complainant or even to The Bar, if it chooses to be the complainant, that he is mentally ill. There has thus been no disclosure to Thompson what his acts are and what his presumed illness is. There has been no grievance committee consulted. There have been no grievance committee proceedings. There has thus been no grievance committee before whom Thompson has been called. There has been no probable cause finding. There has been no submission of the matter, then, to the officers identified in Rule 3-5.2. There has, in sum, been no adherence whatsoever by The Bar as to the clear procedures set forth in its own Rules in this regard and as helpfully, patiently, and clearly explained by Mr. Marvin. In short, The Bar has broken all the rules in order to break Jack Thompson.
16. The fact that it is Mr. Marvin, of all people, who has both explained how it is to be done and who has also superintended the Rules- and law-violating extortion of Jack Thompson is stunning beyond belief. But it is true. And it is consequential.
17. Why is it consequential? Because when it came right down to crunch time, when this mess could have been settled with any rational person considering what Thompson was willing to do to settle all this stuff, as indicated by his willingness to pay for the mediation himself and to negotiate a settlement, The Bar had their Ms. Tuma, the career Bar prosecutor from Illinois who has never done anything else as a lawyer but that, waltz into the room and play the lunacy card yet again, out of the blue.
18. The Bar does not want this resolved. The Bar wants to extort Thompson. It’s choice is no choice. It is akin to choosing between castration by knife or castration by chemical. Yet The Bar itself does not have what in Miami is called the cojones to do this by the Rules, to do it according to its own laws. They are welcome to try.
19. The reason The Bar is not willing, it seems, to do it by the Rules, as elucidated by Mr. Marvin is that it knows Thompson is not nuts. It knows. Thompson sat there in the flashy offices of Greenberg Traurig in Tallahassee on March 15, 2006, with Harkness, Hill, Bookman, and Coxe, the self-styled Guardians of Democracy, and they either saw that Thompson was a loon or were unnerved by their observations that he was not. If it was the former, why did they not act? They have not acted. Instead, in the purest act of bad faith imaginable, they send a woman to do what these men, these alleged men, are afraid to do. They sent Sheila Tuma into a mediation, authorized by Ken Marvin and Steven Chaykin to do it, to demand that he get on The Bar’s psych couch and let these unnamed latter day gulagists do their analyses. Either that or be disbarred.
If Thompson is crazy, he’s not that crazy.
20. The Bar has a choice. It can admit its mistakes (only crazy people don’t admit their mistakes), and get this all behind all of us, or The Bar can live with the rather frightening consequences of what it has done, to Thompson now for the second time.
21. This is important stuff, and it affects, with all due respect, the future of this Bar and of this High Court.
22. Powerful people, as the world defines power, invariably forget the heel of Achilles. The vulnerability of this Bar is in thinking that because they make the Rules, they are above them. Lord Acton nailed the problem as well. Every school kid knows the aphorism that the Hank Coxes and the Frank Angoneses have managed, in their self importance, to forget.
WHEREFORE, Thompson demands, by granting this petition for writ of mandamus, that this court review what this Bar has done to Thompson, and in doing so, has done to itself. In The Bar’s illegal, Rules-breaking, extortionate attempt to pathologize Thompson’s faith and activism, it has fashioned a noose for itself. Thompson does not really desire to cinch that noose, but he shall if he must.
I HEREBY SWEAR AND AFFIRM, AS IF UNDER OATH AND UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY, THAT THE FOREGOING FACTS ARE TRUE, COMPLETE, AND CORRECT, SO HELP ME (CAN I SAY THIS?) UNDER GOD.
I HEREBY CERTIFY that the foregoing has been provided this July 27, 2007, to John Harkness, Executive Director of The Florida Bar, to Circuit Court Judge Dava J. Tunis, to Bar staff counsel Sheila Tuma, and to Kenneth Marvin, Director of Lawyer Regulation for The Bar.
"Well, proof today as to the hurtful nature of that baseless aside by the court is to be found at a particular video game industry web site, http://www.gamepolitics.com/, whose owner and editor, Dennis McCauley, has himself filed a SLAPP Bar complaint against Thompson. "
READ: Since someone else who's fed up with my crap agreed, this statement is CLEARLY a vicious personal attack with no bearing on reality.
"Thompson did not wildly imagine that complaint’s existence, nor does he imagine the following found at the end of this video game web site’s latest attack upon Thompson today…"
READ: I told McCauley very clearly, "no tradebacks!" but then he was all like a crybaby and went and taddled, so, then, I called him "doodyface" and he like told me that he was rubber and I was glue, even though I totally said "no tradebacks" again. Man, he really is a doodyface.
...
"How does this court like being cited on the Internet as proof that Thompson is a fabricator?"
READ: Someone on the internet is using your quote to make a point that I'm a kook, of which I wholly disapprove.
"How odd that the video game industry finds this over-the-top comment about Thompson by this court useful because of its hurtfulness but this fair and impartial court does not."
READ: That person, who I've decided is the same as the game industry now, clearly used this statement, which I have determined is hyperbole based on the fact that it criticizes me, because it is malicious, which I have decided that it is, what with the criticizing and all.
"This is the same court that has held forth as to its expertise in the nuances of the meaning of the word “belied,” and yet we are all to conclude that this court’s use of the phrase 'wild accusations of a vast conspiracy' mean nothing and affect nothing."
READ: By taking your opinions and comments about the definition of the word "belied" out of context, I can make words like “wild accusations of a vast conspiracy” sound much crazier, without ever having to make point number one as to why!
-eric
I understood that - I was trying to poke holes in his current re-direction, point being that even his attempts to mislead have glaring errors.
Where do i sign up >:)
Heh, i'm not too upset at the comments of Jackie Boy. I actually now feel honored to be insulted by the most hated man in video game culture. Sure, I wasn't really that happy to be called a knucklehead by Jack Thompson based on my clueless knowledge of law, but whatver. I can now brag that I was personally smack-talked by him to my freinds.
Maybe he just need to meet his gamer-bash quota for the week. :)
Thanks for your support, Robot.
Truthiness at it's best.
Well I don't really see any problem with a lawyer saying that. What I do take issue with is that Jack attempts to undermine the freedoms that makes the US what it is, but then revels in those same rights when they work in his favor.
“is this a great country or what?”
Not really. Maybe when you leave. And quit with the whole posting your inane letters, why don't you? We both know you know next to nothing about law.
Thompson is not a Christian. The man actually does know and exploit the bible, but Thompson is a man of hate and contempt, quite contrary to anything the bible teaches. I don't believe he's honestly so blind to believe that his methods are actually God's will. Christ is a teacher of love and forgiveness, specifically the love of ones enemies. Yes, there are rules and guidelines in the bible that people are supposed to follow, and not all of the teachings are positive and humanitarian in nature, but what is crystal clear is the way people are supposed to treat their fellow man. Jack Thompson knows what is in the bible, but he neglects it. Thus, he is either a true idiot who believes he is personally above the words of the bible, or he is deliberately exploiting a religion he does not believe in, in order to further his career and hate agenda. My money is on the latter.
"My prayer, to the Lord Jesus Christ is not “Send me more friends,” but rather, “Lord, please send me more stupid enemies.”"
I can't help but think that praying for "no enemies" would be the more christian thing to do... But i guess we all know what type of man Jack is
Why not take the psyc exam if you have nothing to hide?
The whole "He didn’t know who I was, I sure as heck know who he is." scenario sounds like calssic SOCIOPATHY, the very issue that your using as a basis for your "crusade" against Take-Two and Rockstar.
ps
stop acting like you're personal friends with "the Lord Jesus Christ"... also, "is this a great country or what?" is'nt really appropriate from someone who practices law.
Oddly enough, a lack of empathy is a symptom of instability.
O lord, make my enemies ridiculous.- Voltaire.
Voltaire was an atheist.
I see. Thanks for clearing that up; it was confusing me. I don't know alot about law and stuff like this.
@Jack Thompson
Okay, admittingly i'm not particulary smart and don't think alot of things out. The 3rd person bit was confusing me and I thank the nicer people who posted in correcting my mistake. Not everyone can be as 'fluent' in law as you are, Jackie. And you're really in no position to be talking smack to gamers right now. Should you be out right now trying to protect your ass right now, and not talking smack to a gamer who knows almost nothing about law and this kind of stuff?
@JACK THOMPSON
They want you to undergo the evaluation because they see how insane you are, and you are making the Florida Bar look bad to the rest of the country.
Freedom of privacy actually isn't listed anywhere in the constitution, bill of rights, or any amendment.
I haven't heard of any other lawyer speaking in the third person, but I guess I don't know many good ones. Just a few Judges and DAs, thats all.
I think the problem here, dear Jacky, is that you tied your psyche to your ego and inflated your ego. Now that the whole civilized world is deflating your ego, it would appear that your psyche is crushed, leaving you with less mental stability than you had in the beginning (and let us be brutally honest, you had very little). Let's face it, people just don't buy your particular brand of bullshit anymore.
I know, you'll probably go on a tangent somewhere calling us 'potheads' and 'knuckleheads' and the like, but let me explain something. I'm in college, going for a Crim/Soc degree. Once I go back, I'm going straight back to the recruiters' desk and sigining up for the infantry.
I know, this may seem like something a bloodthirsty videogamer would do. But then again, its something that sane and intelligent men have done for 250 years and more in America.
So go masquerade as something important while you still can, because the judge is gonna rip the mask of your face, God willing.
Austin Lewis,
Irish-catholic Republican.
PS.
Hooah, Tiocfaidh Ar La, Erin go bragh, and Pog ma thoin.
But of course, I think most any sane person period wouldn't want anything to do with the man.
Which would be true, were he referring to video game legislation. But he was referring to the Patriot act and Wire tapping, where the republicans tried to convince us that we shouldn't mind giving up freedom of privacy if we don't have anything private to hide.
So it was correct the first time around.
Change republican with democrat and you'll have it right, since all the time something anti-video game seems to be the democratic thing, not to mention Thompson said he supports Hillary.
The upcoming disciplinary action has nothing to do with Mr. Thompson's mental state. It has to do with his inability to follow Bar rules and practice law according to set guidelines and the orders of Judges. You only need to read the Bar complaint documents to find out all of the rules he has broken.
Mr. Thompson's predicament has nothing to do with him being crazy. It has everything to do with him being a rude, abusive, dishonest individual. It has everything to do with him trying to use the law as a sledgehammer to get his way ("disagree with me and I'll sue you! Say anything bad about me and I'll sue you!"). It has everything to do with his conduct in multiple courts of law which have led to the Judges involved complaining about him. (his behaviour was like a disciplined child screaming that the parent who spanked him was a doody-head).
Long story short: he is NOT crazy. He IS woefully unprofessional and cannot follow the rules of his profession. As such, he should and if there is any justice in the world, will be disbarred.
As an example the statement "If it is a pig, then it has four legs" does not mean that "if it has four legs, then it is a pig." Just because they are asking Jacko to undergo mental evaluation doesn't mean that some other person has suggested it and so those rules don't apply.
It is interesting that someone seems keep making faulty arguments when that person's job is at least in part about forming an argument.
If you have nothing to hide, then whats the problem?
I mean if you're as innocent and pure as the driven snow that you claim to be, you should be enjoying this upcoming hearing; if you're as innocent as you claim to be then you should expect nice return in the form of a counter-suit.
Or is it you're just afraid that all your hate, venom, and unethical attampts to have everyone live their lives according to your morals and standards is finally going to have consequences that are deserving of a person like you?
By the way, Jack, destroying your book for that charity auction was quite fun and entertaining, and some deserving sick children received some new toys as a result. But feel free to mention how childish it is again to destroy something you disagree with, while you go on your tirade to destroy Rockstar and Take-Two because you disagree with them.
Perhapse I should give you the youtube link to show what an autograph from you is worth?
Hey, if you call the number he gave us yesterday, he leaves his cell phone number on the message! This should be fun...
If you read all of my response, actually, a MAC ban is easier to get around than an IP ban. Virtually all cards now have the option to let you fill in a "faked" MAC, mainly because of problems peope have had with devices having the same MAC (which I know should be impossible, but has happened, especially with products from Cisco/Linksys, or Belkin). In order to not render the devices completely pointless on the 'net, the option exists, and typically is a simple thing to adjust. I know I can do it for every computer I own, and my router.
Once again, the problem is that those kinds of bans only stop people who don't have the motivation to get around them. And Jack has shown that if anything, he's determined and persistent.
I'm pagan Thompson, I guess I'm an exception to your prayer.
Go argue with the /b/tards, they might actually agree with you.
You're a bloody parasite mate, a right nasty piece of work and whatever nasty stuff you have coming your way is totally deserved.
Sorry to drag the tone down folks but theres no mature debate with some people, conflict exists for a reason. It would be ok if he had any empathy but alas i suspect he only fakes it to make money from the unfortunate. He may have a differing view on life but theres no need to be a bastard about it.
"No spoken or written word can ever be a substitute for one's own practical experience. No one too can convince another who does not wish to believe what he is told"
Mr. Thompson your callous disregard for your fellow man and your insufferable egomaniacal pandering is both tiresome and vexing. Your attempts to talk down to us and label us with vindictive and libelous attacks only go to show your own immaturity.
Further your anger filled diatribes only prove your pathetic lack of mental ability.
Also kindly stop using the religion of my faith as your excuse to pursue your own personal aggrandizing. Christ never said to be mean to others, actually quite the opposite. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you I believe is the correct phrasing of the verse.
Dennis I commed you on your continued efforts to keep us, the consumers, aware of what's going on in the gaming world in the political and societal fronts.
I'm almost sorry to see him go.
this is beyond abusrd i often wonder if he know why hes going before the bar on the 4th!!!!!
Well, Jack Thompson would know all about baseless claims, both the hurtful and the absurd kind.
lol thanx
Mr. Thompson's just disingenuously attempting to re-cast the current disciplinary proceeding against him as one alleging mental defect and implicating Rule 3-7.13.
ok everyone i looked up on yahoo Florida Bar Rule 3-7.13 and got directed to the florida state university (im assuming thats what fsu stands for) website this is what Florida Bar Rule 3-7.13 is "incapacity NOT related to misconduct" (my source is http://www.law.fsu.edu/library/flsupct/sc95365/op-sc95365-3CORRECTION.pd...)
@jt
YOU STUPID DUMBASS THAT ARENT TRYING PUT YOU ON AN INACTIVE LIST THEY ARE DISBARRING YOU!!! DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!!!!!!
how can one man be so damn stupid
(a) Proceedings Without Adjudication of Incompetence or
Hospitalization Under the Florida Mental Health Act. Whenever an attorney
who has not been adjudged incompetent is incapable of practicing law because of
physical or mental illness, incapacity, or other infirmity, the attorney may be
classified as an inactive member and shall refrain from the practice of law for such
reason even though no misconduct is alleged or proved. Proceedings under this
rule shall be processed under the Rules of Discipline in the same manner as
proceedings involving acts of misconduct.
I'm not sure that's true. Perhaps it is true if it's a single lawyer issuing a complaint/concern about another, but it IS quite possible that there are different alternatives when the Bar itself questions the sanity of one of its members. It's little different from how a police officer has different powers than an ordinary citizen.
I don't know for sure, but it seems to me that this COULD be the case. I'm just throwing that out there.
And whoever conducted that previous evaluation and failed to determine that he's suffering from some sort of mental illness needs, in my opinion, to have their fitness for licensure re-examined.
1) Obviously a law student, not an english major, as that's one hell of a run-on sentence...
2) I've read my constitution, and I don't see anything to the effect of "Congress shall make no law infringing upon the right of the people to practice law." Now, if you're referring to the pursuit of happiness, and if you sincerely derive your personal happiness from your job, then you, sir, have my pity, as there is so many other things from which a person can derive happiness.
3) "What it gives a damn about is getting Jack Thompson at any cost..." 3rd person may be proper in legal pleadings, but in the same document, you say "You hate me that much." So either you are indeed a little off your rocker, or you're breaking protocol for legal documents. On that same note:
4) "give a damn" and "this crap" aren't exactly good form in a legal document. Comments like that, made in a courtroom would be liable to get you sanctioned.
Jack, if you can't be professional, you SHOULD be disbarred. You might try making a show of good faith by NOT acting like a child.
You kncklehead...
Maybe he will listen to that, because obvioulsly he only reads the all caps comments with grammer errors, insted of the well thought-out comments on how asanine he is.
I couldn't have said it better myself :)
The answer to the problem of getting around an IP ban is a MAC ban, which is harder to implement, but also harder to circumvent.
July 26th, 2007 at 8:50 am
Is Jack speaking in 3rd person or is it just me? o_O
Legal documents are most typically written in the third person, as a judge should be able to read the motion or brief any time and know to whom it is referring, without having to translate indefinite pronouns (I, he, she, they, we, etc) into names.
So, though JT is most definitely a complete whack-job, it's not for this reason. :)
And *that* would equate to vaporizing his entire leg (and career, hopefully) with a BFG9000.
It's that simple really.
Andrew Eisen
ok i can understand all that but i mean come on if he is doing all that just to post with a bunch of supposed "children" doesnt that say something about what sanity this guy has left???
i am a lawyer damit mr floppy told me i was
Hoooooooah!!!!
Jack go away your not wanted here so go find a hobby.
maybe play some gears of war
Probably, until he circumvents the IP ban, which he is getting more and more adept at doing as time progresses. Unfortunately, IP bans aren't going to completely work, since odds are, he is using a dynamic address from his ISP -- and if he knows how to get a new IP assigned to him, he's right back. Another technique would be a MAC ban, however most cards & platforms for computers now provide a way to easily spoof a MAC, which is simple enough to do to circumvent MAC bans. GP could ban the whole range of potential IP addresses, but that would mostly just serve as a means to shut out anyone who happens to be living in Miami from being able to see the site. E-mail address bans are relatively ineffectual as well, what with the myriad of free email services that exist.
The problem is, for every lock, there is a key -- a basic concept in any form of security (online or otherwise). All bans/blocks/locks do is keep the honest people out -- if someone really wants to put forth the effort, that person *will* be able to get around it. All that can be done is making it so enough effort is spent getting around it that it renders trying to get around the security as impractical at best. The problem is that Jack has shown that he's so determined to get through the security measures here, that short of locking the GP site to members only mandating invitations... he'll continue trying to get here.
For someone who regularly says gamers need to get lives.... he really has a lot of time and energy devoted on being able to post his insults on this site.
All of the contacts in my previous post are right off the Florida Bar's website, so they're as direct as they come.
Here's what we need to do.
1) If you've never sent professional correspondence before, google it. There are even guidelines for e-mails to make them look and sound a lot more professional, which would be all the better for us gamers.
2) Research JT, find any quote or action you can that would be considered unethical or unprofessional, and trust me, you can find A LOT of 'em.
3) e-mail the following people:
Florida Bar Association:
Center for Professionalism:
Carl J. Zahner
czahner@flabar.org
Carolyn Shovlain
cshovlain@flabar.org
Becky Blackburn
rblackbu@flabar.org
Complaints:
John Barr
jbarr@flabar.org
Lawyer Regulation:
Ken Marvin
kmarvin@flabar.org
Remember, keep the e-mail as professional as possible, if you turn it into any form of attack or tirade, they'll just toss it out. If they get enough e-mails, they'll have to do something to shut us all up.
Think on it.
And yet you still haven't been able to refute anything that Dennis has said in his response to your attack have you skinwaste? I bet you are still refering to Dennis and the ECA as an industry body despite the fact that Dennis has throughly proven that to be wrong.
Penny-Arcade had it right when they said we should be thankful for you Jack. Without you gaming might have in intelligent and charismatic enemy, rather than the raving psychotic dullard we have.
Thank you Jack for being such an incompetent foe.
I suspect it IS just a word game on Jacks' part, he's spoken to the guy on the phone, who's given him a brief rundown of the procedure, and now Jack's trying to use that description as evidence that the correct procedures weren't followed at the Bar.
I'd personally suspect, by now, that the Bar is more than aware of how slimy JT is and have dotted all the i's and crossed all the t's. They know how Jack tried to run for judge to stop the Bully complaint from going ahead, so they know how he likes to try and use the law as an excuse to avoid responsiblity.
I question your "Christianity." Why do you believe insults and hated accusations is part of Christian beliefs? Jesus did not want us to hate each other. He (Jesus) wants us to be humble, and understanding.
As far as the letter goes, it is very unprofessional.
I'd just like to add that Dennis might seriously want to consider legal action, as it's pretty clear that Thompson's statements in the PopZart interview were defamatory.
Also while I know I'm being premature, I would have to wonder what JT would do next after he's disbarred? He certainly wouldn't be able to do TV appearances anymore, as he could no longer claim to be a professional on anything. Also he could no longer use his position to use the law as a blunt instrument.
I see him perhaps becoming more active in his church - perhaps deciding to become a minister or something. That way he could still be a public figure and continue his crusade; just look at Rev. Al Sharpton and all the hell he's raised as an example. However, the fact that he was disbarred for his conduct would still taint him.
Of course, the next question would be who would take his place? Some have dreaded that we would get a guy who would be smarter, but really I don't see anyone coming close to filling Jack's shoes that would be as formidable. Jack's primary tool is the media. He loves the spotlight, but most anti-gamers haven't pursued it as actively as he does.
David Grossman may decide to resurface after Jack's gone (he's actually the one who coined the term "murder simulators" after all), but he doesn't seem to be as actively sought out by the MSM as he once was in the wake of Paducah and Columbien and much of what he has said can be discredited.
David Walsh might, but I can't recall the a time when he was on TV interview. Nor do I recall him being that much of a publicity whore.
After the California bill, Leland Yee has been largely silent. In fact I can't recall seeing his name attatched to any stories here in the past year.
In any case, any of these men would be an improvement over JT. At least they're reasonable men. And while at times it may be like talking to a brick wall, they've shown themselves capable of carrying on a civil discussion, showing more respect for gamers, and willing to engage in a cosntructive dialogue than Thompson has. Overall, good for the debate.
Unfortunately, the same simply cannot be said if the shoe were on the other foot, because Thompson is a cheapskate, lying crook of a failed lawyer, who hasn't won a case in nearly a decade, yet somehow thinks he's winning this one-man crusade against the phantom menace of video games.
If you MUST entertain us with your personal or business correspondence, I believe I speak for all of us when I request that you post only the juiciest and most vitriolic insults. They have the widest appeal and do not require any prior knowledge or understanding of "Florida Bar Rule 3-7.13."
Im hoping for a ersly conclusion to this story about Jack becaus where this is going aint looking pretty for our main character.
Quite frankly, I would say a Bar Complaint from a judge who is getting letters from you like they are being stalked by a jilted lover IS a statement of concern regarding mental stability.
And Jack, that's quite... an unique prayer you have there, never mind how secularly focused it is.
Paranoid much?
You speak in the third person in a legal pleading, you knucklehead.
John B. Thompson, Attorney at Law
1172 S. Dixie Hwy., Suite 111
Coral Gables, Florida 33146
July 26, 2007
Barry Richard
Greenberg Traurig
Tallahassee, Florida Via Fax and e-mail to richardb@gtlaw.com
Re: Florida Bar Rule 3-7.13 and Rule 3-5.2
Dear Mr. Richard:
I should very much like you to pay close attention to the content of this letter, because herein may lie the future of both The Florida Bar and me in our dealings, one with the other.
I called The Florida Bar Ethics Hotline today at 2:15 pm, and this anonymous call by me was given to, of all people, Kenneth Marvin, Director of Lawyer Regulation. He didn’t know who I was, I sure as heck know who he is.
I told Mr. Marvin that I know a lawyer, who is a friend who appears to be mentally ill and that I was concerned about whether his apparent illness posed a danger to his clients and others. Mr. Marvin, very thoroughly and politely, directed me to Florida Bar Rule 3-7.13. We read it over together.
Mr. Marvin explained that if a lawyer appears to be suffering from a mental illness, then the procedure is this: The observing lawyer must execute a sworn statement and send it to the local Bar office just as one would a Bar complaint based upon alleged unethical conduct. If the staff felt that there was a basis for the concern, it then would process the complaint and ultimately send it to a grievance committee.
The sworn complaint, Mr. Marvin stressed very clearly, must be provided to the supposedly mentally impaired lawyer, and it must be very specific as to what is the proof of his alleged mental disability or defect. A complaint will not be treated as a complaint if it is just a vague “I thinks he’s nuts” kind of complaint. Mr. Marvin made it clear that this could go nowhere unless the complainant is specific.
I asked Mr. Marvin three times if the staff attorney (like Sheila Tuma) could proceed under Rule 3-7.13 without going to a grievance committee. He said, each time, “Absolutely not.” The matter must go to the committee for the attorney to be assessed under the regimen of that Rule. Put another way, a staff attorney can only proceed to that point with a finding of probable cause. If the committee does find probable cause, then and only then does an assessment get ordered, with the next step being a use of Rule 3-5.2 if the lawyer resists. The Florida Lawyer Assistance program is used to come up with examining doctors. These doctors are not used for the purpose of counseling or anger management. They are retained to diagnose a disability if there is one.
Now, Mr. Richard, by contrast, what has your and my Florida Bar done to me? You all have, in the last year, demanded twice, most recently a month ago, that I must submit to a mental health exam. The Bar specified, in writing, the Florida Lawyer Assistance program.
Was there a complaint filed? No, not by a third party and not by The Bar. How do I know that? Because I have never been served either with a sworn complaint or with any complaint of any kind with a Bar complaint number on it which it had to have if such a complaint were opened, either upon the initiative of a third party or The Bar itself.
Further, no grievance committee has ever been asked to do anything about this. None. Ms. Tuma has repeatedly stated that this demand has come just from the designated reviewer and from Kenneth Marvin. Period.
So, here is The Bar, demanding that I get a psych evaluation by FLAP, with no complaint even existing. None. Further, no grievance committee has passed on this, which is there for the purpose of keeping rogue prosecutors and crazed designated reviewers and sloppy Directors of Lawyer Regulation from doing this stuff ultra vires.
The Bar, quite simply then, Mr. Richard, has broken every single rule about how this is to be done when it comes to the undersigned’s alleged mental defect.
You have no complaint. You have no grievance committee. You have no probable cause, and yet here is The Bar telling me either submit to this mental exam or we shall disbar you.
This is not just extortion. This is demonstrable proof that The Bar does not give a damn about its own Rules. What it gives a damn about is getting Jack Thompson at any cost, by any means, no matter what Rules are violated and no matter whose rights are trampled.
Let me tell you something, Mr. Richard: This crap is going to stop, one way or the other.
What The Bar ought to do is apologize for this, and right quick.
Further, you need to understand that this is the most outrageous of all of the illegal stunts The Bar has pulled at the expense of my constitutional rights, and I intend to secure a remedy for it and for all the other stunts, particularly in light of the fact that you jerks pulled this lunacy nonsense over a decade ago and got burned by it. You never learned. You hate me that much.
What The Bar has literally done is commit criminal extortion. You said: Get on the couch or we will disbar you. Now that is a Hobson’s choice, is it not? While allegedly impaired, I have to consent to this stigmatizing exam, and if I don’t, if I don’t submit myself to this humiliation again, then you will humiliate me with a permanent disbarment and the inability to earn a living. Wow, such a deal, and with the consent of a crazy man.
Sheila Tuma committed criminal extortion, and everyone else who signed on for this committed it as well. Ken Marvin’s own explanation as to how it is supposed to work hangs them all, including him. His name is on Sheila Tuma’s letter as having approved this shredding of the Rules.
You, of all people, Mr. Richard, ought to be embarrassed by this. You ought to be appalled, and you ought to tell your client that it has collectively lost its mind. I sat there in your office in Tallahassee and gave your self important Guardians of Democracy, as they literally call themselves, the opportunity to eyeball me, and they know—they know—I’m not crazy.
I hereby solemnly affirm, as if under oath and under penalty of perjury, that every single word of the foregoing is true, and that it is a full and accurate account of my telephone conversation on July 26, 2007, from 2:15 pm to 2:24 pm with Kenneth Marvin, The Florida Bar’s Director of Lawyer Regulation.
Signed this 26th day of July, 2007.
Copies: U.S. District Court Judge Paul C. Huck
U.S. District Court Judge Adalberto Jordan
Circuit Court Judge Dava Tunis
Florida Bar Governors
Miami-Dade State Attorney Katherine Fernandez Rundle
@Black Manta
Agreed, with absolute convention.
It's high time the man submitted himself to a psych evaluation to either be disbarred or quietly slip away and let this obsession go. He is not the moral knight in shining armor, as GP's coverage of his compulsive habit of bending the truth, much less outright lying, has shown. Besides being the laughing stock of the general gamer community, he has nothing worthwhile to say in regards to the very issues he wishes to tackle.
GP, get in on this legal action and tell JT to cease and desist from his campaign of slander against you. This has gone on much longer than it should have. Between answering his claims and reading a magazine on the toilet, I say your time is better spent with the latter.
a fabricator?"
Is it just me or did Thompson finally admit that he makes everything up?
@Jack Thompson(Who I have no doubt will eventually post on this site again)
Congratulations you have just stuck the proverbial foot in your mouth and appear to be attempting to swallow. Let us know how that goes, oh and by the way next time you write a letter to someone don't put sarcastic stuff in quotes not only is it bad journalism but its just insulting to any one with an ounce of mental capacity. Then again.......
Is it possible to be both things, but with a mental age of between three and twelve years?, because boy-o-boy does this dimwit fit that description.
I keep picturing a fish laying in a boat. The longer it lays there the more it flails. Just before it flails for the last time it gives one last heave-ho. I think this is the dimwit's last heave-ho. I really hope he gets disbarred. Attorneys are already the subject of too many jokes, and this dimwit is only adding fuel to the fire.
Wouldn't it be nice if he would take his own advice?
"Hello, welcome to CNN. Tonight: Video Games - Helpful or Harmful? Joining us live is John Bruce "Jack" Thompson from Florida."
"It's a pleasure to be here."
"Now, Mr. Thompson I understand that you have recently been disbarred from practicing law in the state of Florida."
"Unfortunately, yes I have, but..."
"And isn't it true that you were called the Joseph McCarthy of media? Calling out fake listings and information to push your own personal agenda?"
"WHAT?! NO!"
"Well then explain to me this, Mr. Thompson: We have had you on our show before and you've told us about various different studies describing how video games effect children. Yet, when we went to verify your sources, we found that they were not even remotely close to what you had claimed or stated. How do you justify this?"
"It's not my fault! It's the Video Game Industry's fault!"
"Uh huh. And I suppose the music industry and 2 Live Crew are in on this too?"
"Absolutely!"
"Thank you Mr. Thompson, it was good speaking with..."
"NOW HOLD ON! Don't you want to hear what I have to say about the video games?"
"No, actually. I'm afraid you have proven to be too incompetent to hold an adult conversation."
"THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!"
"Yes, and I'm sure we'll see you and your lawyer in court. Just remember that we're CNN and our lawyers eat people like you for breakfast with a hint of Mrs. Dash."
"YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO..."
"Oh! Looks like we can! Your mic's been cut! Alright everyone, stay tuned as we interview our first real contributor to tonight's story: Dennis McCauley. We'll be right back."
~Otaku-Man
Let me just make clear that I do NOT advocate harassment of JT. Do not call him, send him emails, anything raunchy to his home or otherwise make his life hell. The Florida Bar will take care of that, thank you.
What I DO advocate is whenever he appears on TV, sends another brief to the bar or any other authorities, or does another interview like the PopZart one, immediately notify said parties and aggressively counter what he says with his own words of which there are plenty. There's a mountain of evidcence against him it he can be buried easily under the resulting avalanche.
And plus, Dennis is not a part of the video game industry Which is in and of itself a specious term: How do you define the video game industry? Retailers, coders, game companies, producers, distributors ... Each can be seen as a part of the 'industry' but all have widely different concerns and interests, and each would have a separate beef with Thompson (if at all).
It's much simpler, and therefore more likely, to believe that Thompson's methods, issues, and arguments have no merit and invoke a strong reaction by (almost) everyone he is involved with, rather than believing that each tentacle of the 'video game industry' can stop bickering amongst themselves and agree to conspire against Thompson.
@JT
I am sorry to say this, but your run as the gamer's greatest enemy is almost over. It was a fun time of pain and misery for both sides. I will miss you when you go Jack, please be sure to end your career with a stunt that overdoes all your other ones. It is only right you go out with a bang. I am sure even you can sence the end is near.
That's JT all right, he writes legal documents like he does his press releases. Instead of taking a serious, dignified, professional and standard legal approach, he boasts about himself, throws around insults and makes no attempt to spell/grammer check his documents. I'd also point out the lack of evidence, but that's needless to say since there is never any evidence to speak of.
What I want to know is how he got his license in the first place. If he 's fighting this much against the psyche evaluation you know he's either deathly worried about it or has something to hide. I mean if your clean of something, you come upfront and confess your innocence, not badger everyone about every reason (believable or not) why its asinine to have to.
And, why has it taken so long for the courts to finally put JT on the spot for his unethical behavior, especially after some of the confrontations I've heard about with judges The only things I know about him are from what I read on the web, and EVERY bit of info I've found is always about his childish behavior, language, and unethical conduct towards judges, lawyers and evryone else who thinks differently than him. It's one thing to be non-conformist, different minded, or eccentric, but its a whole other story being a COMPLETE ASS about it.
@ Jack Thompson
You may have said you stopped dealing with this site, but we all know your still reading it for more fodder. Why don't you try practicing the Religious Morals you so whole heartedly believe in. I don't now much about you, but already I don't like you. If you would like to change my opinions of you in a CIVILIZED manner, my e-mail is playingchess1313@yahoo.com, not bad for a 'coward hiding in anonymity.'
I'm entirely convinced that Mr. Thompson wouldn't be familiar with "truthfulness" even if the concept was tied to a cinder block and dropped on his toes.
What I want to know is how he got his license in the first place. If he 's fighting this much against the psyche evaluation you know he's either deathly worried about it or has something to hide. I mean if your clean of something, you come upfront and confess your innocence, not badger everyone about every reason (believable or not) why its asinine to have to.
And, why has it taken so long for the courts to finally put JT on the spot for his unethical behavior, especially after some of the confrontations I've heard about with judges The only things I know about him are from what I read on the web, and EVERY bit of info I've found is always about his childish behavior, language, and unethical conduct towards judges, lawyers and evryone else who thinks differently than him. It's one thing to be non-conformist, different minded, or eccentric, but its a whole other story being a COMPLETE ASS about.
@ Jack Thompson
You may have said you stopped dealing with this site, but we all know your still reading it for more fodder. Why don't you try practicing the Religious Morals you so whole heartedly believe in. I don't now much about you, but already I don't like you. If you would like to change my opinions of you in a CIVILIZED manner, my e-mail is playingchess1313@yahoo.com, not bad for a 'coward hiding in anonymity.'
As long as the statement is true, he's merely commenting on what Thompson submitted to the Court. Considering that the man cannot tell the different between an employee of a CONSUMER ADVOCACY GROUP from an "Industry Stooge", I would say that he hasn't learned is lesson yet about submitting wild accusations of vast conspiracies.
So...can Jack actually quote the internet in his defense of a Florida Bar evaluation? He's opening major floodgates if he tries.
"Thompson submits nothing beyond MORE wild accusations of a vast conspiracy against him"
A person who discounts falsehoods in the past does not mean the person is baised against the person who uttered them. It means they saw them for what they were.
Eg. Person A lies about something. Person B points out that Person A's statement is a lie. THis does not mean that B hates or is biased toward A.
"this video game web site’s latest attack upon Thompson"
It was not an attack, it was a response TO an attack made by Thompson on another website. Even then, it is not so much an attack, but a collection of facts and references that show how and when Thompson has been abusive, unreasonable and completely wrong in the past.
And once again, we have the accusation that GP is a video game industry site. True enough, it reports ON the industry, but is not a part of it. I have a great interest in World of Warcraft and often speak to my friends about it, telling them about new features, dungeons, etc. Does this make me part of the video game industry? Being a member of the ECA is like being part of a fan club for a rock band. You follow what is going on with them, there might be some little perks like merchandise, posters, magazines etc, but you are NOT part of the music industry.
"How does this court like being cited on the Internet as proof that Thompson is a fabricator?" Hang on a second, is he actually admitting that he was lying and actually is a fabricator? That's like pointing at fingerprint or DNA evidence and saying "How do you like being used to prove I'm a murderer!"
To me this sounds like he has finally grasped that his career is over and come September will lose his licence, and all of this is whinging and moaning about the fact. I've seen similar behaviour on programs like COPS, a criminal is cought red-handed doing something wrong, is apprehended and taken into custody, yet never stops protesting their innocence or insulting the police.
Jack Press Releases letters filled to the brim with insults and baseless accusations about 2 judges, he voluntarily and willingly presented those letters to the public. And yet, the moment a judge states an opinion (and from reading through the complaint Thompson put through, an accurate one) that Thompson doesn't agree with, he's suddenly worried about how 'hurtful' these words could be.
Had Thompson had any conception how 'hurtful' his own accusations had been, he wouldn't be placing disciplinary action in the first place. So in my opinion, this is just a tantrum, Jack can give it, he just can't take it.
All I can really say to that speech of yours is, "You have my bow." :)
It's not hard to believe that which evere JT case it was that it did amount to a baseless vast conspiracy against him; afterall, half the things he says amounts to just that. Simply saying that someone is out to get you, or that their multiple parties working together to get you, is pretty much asserting that their is a conspiracy agaisnt you. And if you have no solid evidence that any of it is true, not even a connection between the parties then it really is nothing more than "wild accusations".
a fabricator?'
No Jack, the proof that you are a Fabricator is in the article itself, that last line is what we call a 'summarisation' not 'evidence'. I thought you were a lawyer, and yet you can't tell the difference? Proof is the bit that comes before the Summary, remember that? I know it's a strange and alien concept, but some courts require it, and Lord knows there's been enough on here in the last few days to prove how much of a charlatan you truly are.
Well said. Jack can really only blame himself. He won't, but he should. With all the sound bites from Jack, and all the times hes been on TV, and his behavior in and outside of the courtroom, all combined with his behavior on the Internet, he is his biggest enemy. Even other lawyers don't like him.
I'm still wondering how that run at Judge Friedman's seat is shaping up.
John Bruce's continued attitude of a conspiracy theory around every conrner only serves to support the validity and apparent unbiased comment by the judge.
To be honest, I'm not far away from expecting him to start jumping up and down screaming that the Klingons from the planet Vulcan are out to get him too. :/
Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
Can you hear that? It's the world's smallest violin. And it's playing Jack's tune.
We don't use it because it's hurtful, any more than the court did, it's used because it is 100% accurate.
"JT, if your accusations of a conspiracy weren’t “wild”, you’d have a case."
He wouldn't have a case. There is no conspiracy against him. He is facing disciplinary action that has been brought about because of multiple and repeated instances of unprofessional behaviour. The only person acting against Mr. Thompson is Mr. Thompson, as he has brought this disciplinary action upon himself.
Yeah, slick move there Jack.
JT, if your accusations of a conspiracy weren't "wild", you'd have a case. But seeing as you submitted pages and pages and pages of "proof" that the whole world is out to get you, and that Doug Lowenstein implanted tracker chips in your teeth (ok, he didn't actually claim that one, but jeeze, it's not far from what he HAS claimed), then a judge has every right to say you have submitted nothing but wild accusations...
Base all your cases on either outright lies or biased interpretations of already suspect or marginalized data and you can really annoy people. Tick off enough people over a continued time period and most of them will eventually want to see you get your come-uppances and will work with others to see it happen. And having that person get his thumping from the very people who license him to be annoying seems like a just reward.
I don't consider that to be the case any longer. He's a crack-pot and we all know it. It's something we've known for some time now as gamers and it's something that he's demonstrated time and again in the mainstream media in recent months.
At this point I hope we keep him around as long as possible simply because his hystrionics and flamboyant hyperbole only serve to demonstrate how ridiculous his position is.
Does the guy even read what he writes? Does he know what he's saying? It would almost be comical to read his tripe, if it wasn't already so very sad... I find myself thinking about his son and wondering how much of a life that kid has with his dad being such a lunatic.
I remember watching a video interviewing/profiling Thompson and he was talking about his son and how he liked to spend time with him. One of the clips they showed was of Thompson, in shirt and tie, stiffly playing Basketball with a slightly confused and uncertain son. It was pretty obvious to even the most casual observer that this attempt at familiarity and "every-day" bonding and quality time was affected and contrived.
I kinda hope Jack sticks around and is acquitted of the disciplinary charges so that he can continue his embicility.
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Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
I can also guarantee that after that is found out he'll go on another crazy rant saying the the video game industry paid of the person evaluating him to say those things and get him disbarred and out of their hair. It's everyone against Jack! Poor Jack!
Damn it! I'm tired of him. Fuck Jack Thompson! Find something better to do with yourself you crazy bastard!
He will renounce his membership with the bar citing religious prosecution, thus making himself a martyr. And his crusade against video games will continue with his passing himself off as a victim of the vengeful and evil games industry who were so mean and nasty and made him lose his job.
Guys you all know Dennis does not support action against anyone on this site, particularly individuals in Miami.
Stop Jack, while you still have some dignity left!
I believe it's customary to refer to yourself in 3rd person when acting as your own attorney in court. Probably still doesn't help his case that he doesn't need a psychiatric evaluation, though.
I really want inside information on this upcoming hearing in September. I know it will be difficult for you to get insider news as you don't have anyone in Florida to help, but it would be nice.
I remember that Kotaku had a video from his contempt hearing, so they have someone. Maybe you could get a dual coverage? It'll beat hearing Thompson's BS.
Yah! Now the REAL conspiracy against Jacky begins! We should make an army of underground agents who's sole purpose is to make Jack's world a living hell. We, of course, would have no affiliation to such fine websites like GP.
At last we will have our revenge. ^_^
As I said before, Thompson's tactic is to attack his oppponent so much to the point where they would have to spend so much time refuting his claims that in many cases it's more trouble than it would be worth, so they instead ignore him, figuring he'll shut up and go away, which we all know by now doesn't work. As General George Patton once said, "No one ever successfully defended anything. There's attack, attack and attack some more."
Dennis, again I know you probably have better things to do and more worthwhile stories to report. But Jack's attacking you and dragging you into this mess and you - and we - have to take the fight to him. He's counting on you not answering him. You already have, but is hasn't sunk in yet and maybe never will. So you need to communicate to the Bar that this latest claim is false as well if need be.
This is it, folks. This is the big time. Jack's about to go down, but he won't go easily and he'll use every dirty trick up his sleeve. Now's the time for us to go on the offensive and give him a taste of his own medicine: cite every example of his behavior, use every outrageous thing he's ever said against him. We certainly have enough ammo, he's been supplying us with it for years and now it's time to put it to use. We shouldn't let him wriggle his way out this time.
That, and he just gave them the site's link, which currently has a 4-part story on how Jack has been lying on various occasions.
That best describes Thompson's actions.
It's so obvious that Thompson should just grow up and get a life.
"Shut the f*** up, you're out of your element" - Walter, The Big Lebowski
Is there a ToS for this site, and if there is, where can I read it at?
Yeah, Jacky Boy, you should know all about obstruction and lying since you've been obstructing justice by trying to shift blame of tragedies like Columbine and Virginia Tech from the perpetrators themselves to inanimate objects that had nothing to do with the crimes by McCarthyist lying.
All that court filing is another desperate attempt to save your job.
To reiterate:
“What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”
Practice what you preach, jabroni: Grow up and get a life.
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On another note I am curious to why you think this is a great country Jack. I mean every one of you actions is an attempt to undermine basic freedoms of speech and of expression. You should know that those freedoms extend to the video game industry as well, not just senile, mentally ill lawyers from florida.
1) Part of one of his complaints is that he was denied putting an ad in about the proceedings? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the whole "media circus" thing one of the reasons he was facing disciplinary action in the first place?
2) Did he really just pretty much cite the Will of God as legal reasoning? Also, did he imply the court members are godless at the end of the writ of mandamus filing?
3) There's a hell of a lot of sarcasm, insults, and unnescary information in there. Once again, how is this helping his case for professional and ethical conduct?
I'm starting to think he's building an insanity case so it doesn't break as much when it falls.
I'd also like to commend Dennis for leaving Thompson's comments up. He may be improper, but at least he can't cry about freedom of speech and being censored.
What do you have to hide Mr. Thompson?
We all know you're a nutjob.
Making an accusation against his opponents without presenting facts or evidence? Check.
An appeal to the religiously minded recipients of the letter? Check.
An attempt at Sympathy by exploiting his wife's alleged cancer? Check.
Insulting the accusers, the Bar association, the recipients of the letter, and the court itself? Check.
Making an utter fool of himself in some direct or indirect form? that Warning at the top makes this a Check.
An utter lack of professionalism, decency, and decorum? Check.
A failure to check grammar and spelling? ("2:15-2:224"?) Check.
Random ass quote from someone reasonably famous that has almost nothing to do with the letter itself? Check.
A mention of the vast entertainment conspiracy/mob out to see him disbarred? Ooooo; So close, but not this time.
Still... Absolutely 100% pure Jack Thompson. I must say, if he's crazy, at least he's a consistant kind of crazy.
No one wants to see your gay and underage porn pics attached to court documents Jack.
And you wonder why we all think you're crazy.
"Additionally, the Court notes that respondent has attached inappropriate and pornographic materials to his petitions that are irrelevant to his arguments. Respondent is warned that should he continue to submit such inappropriate filings, the Court will consider imposing sanctions which may include, but are not limited to, a limitation on Respondent's ability to submit further filings without the signature of an attorney other than himself."