
Race relations is not normally a major concern for the gaming community.
But on Wednesday the issue exploded throughout the blogosphere as a
GamePolitics report describing charges made against Capcom's upcoming Resident Evil 5 by the
Black Looks blog was widely picked up by other sites. At GP alone the story generated more than 800 comments, many of them angry, a few, unfortunately, laced with racial epithets.
Kym Platt (left), the woman who penned the
Black Looks piece chastising RE5, described her take on the response on yet another blog site,
Ask This Black Woman. Platt wrote:
Never have I been so harassed and insulted, and all because I questioned the imagery in this game... The response has been horrifying... I am shocked that in the same breath some of these folks denied that Resident Evil 5 displayed racist/anti-Black imagery; they called me things like "nigger", "bitch", and "whore".
...The gamers would like to intimidate me and silence me, but that's not going to happen. This vitriol has done nothing but embolden me and my political convictions.
Microscopiq wrote:
From Birth of a Nation to Black Hawk Down, black folk are apparently responsible for some of the most mindless and evil activities you got. Rape, murder, satanic voodoo... So, when we see images like these, it triggers memories of so many awful stereotypes...
... If LocoRoco’s Mojas were a kind of high tech blackface, Resident Evil 5 takes blackface into the HD era. It’s horror alright, just not the kind Capcom intended...
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Young, Black Professionals Guide:
Trying to talk about the sensitivities of race to a gaming demographic is extremely difficult. the majority of readers are young white males who are either too immature to have a clean conversation about it or too logical to draw accurate comparisons. what is worse is that some of the hateful comments... echo the reality of ignorance and hate they claim black people should get over.
nigger is used loosely. bitch is used frequently. other four letter words are sprinkled about... on one hand, i understand the angle joystiq and some of the mature gamers are making. resident evil has always been about a white guy killing zombies... why should black zombies in africa be different? additionally, the makers of the game are japanese, so that inherently makes the intent of the setting not racist as well, right?
on the other hand, the images used in the game, already disturbing because it is resident evil, also reflect hateful images that were real and meant to invoke hate towards black people in the not too distant history of america...
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…The gamers would like to intimidate me and silence me, but that’s not going to happen. This vitriol has done nothing but embolden me and my political convictions.
What I don't understand, is that she is basically an attention ***** similar to paris hilton and doesn't expect to grab the attention of the idiots; except she may have wanted that to add fuel to the fire just so she can justify her racial stereotyping.
From Birth of a Nation to Black Hawk Down, black folk are apparently responsible for some of the most mindless and evil activities you got. Rape, murder, satanic voodoo… So, when we see images like these, it triggers memories of so many awful stereotypes…
… If LocoRoco’s Mojas were a kind of high tech blackface, Resident Evil 5 takes blackface into the HD era. It’s horror alright, just not the kind Capcom intended…
So, this author feels that black people are responsible? I don't understand it, they don't want to be lumped up as something, but this person purposely lumps himself into a group when they see an image of a mob group.
This person is refusing to let go of these "memories" of awful stereotypes. I mean god, if a black person likes to eat chicken, I guess they'll say "OMG THAT IS AN AWFUL STEREOTYPE!" It is like a person can't simply enjoy a chicken wing.
It makes me sick how people have to remind these people that sterotypes exist.
This person even admits this isn't the kind of terror that capcom intended and the author acknowledges it. I say it again, "racial eye for the normal guy/girl"
They want to point out racism to make headlines for some reason. I hope they think of something better to do.
Trying to talk about the sensitivities of race to a gaming demographic is extremely difficult. the majority of readers are young white males who are either too immature to have a clean conversation about it or too logical to draw accurate comparisons. what is worse is that some of the hateful comments… echo the reality of ignorance and hate they claim black people should get over.
You know why it is extremely difficult? The gamer demographic wasn't out there trying to lynch people or were too busy playing with their varying "skin" colored friends! Basically these people have to point out that some of their friends are "different" and shouldn't be the same as them. This goes against the idea of Equality and they have their noses full of this "sensationalist" reporting to realize it.
You know what is ironic about the immaturity? These people aren't mature enough to realize that they are trying to find a problem that doesn't exist.
They automatically claim that they are white males to gain support that its a conspiracy against them. THey also claim ignorance, the ignorance is that they made a claim against a story that is supposedly going to raise white gamers to 'shoot' black zombies en masse to train them. They never researched the actual game, nor anything else. The fact that we inform them that many of these people never learned about racism, and are sadly learning about it now... is the most despicable thing.
Racism goes both ways, and sadly, one example is that you're discriminating against a group and stating you're against stereotypes, but then are stereotyping that every gamer is a 14 year old white boy? What the **** is wrong with you people? You make me sick.
on the other hand, the images used in the game, already disturbing because it is resident evil, also reflect hateful images that were real and meant to invoke hate towards black people in the not too distant history of america…
This is where it is purely stupid. The images were designed from the ground up, at most they took a picture of the locale to digitally implant it. The character models are scratch, they can't just map a picture with a person on it to somehow portray everything to this sick memory you so claim to have.
WHat is ironic is that you try to remind these "14 year old white boys" that racists exist, because you have to tell them that they are different from you, and that their opinion doesn't matter.
THey were likely too young to even know it exists, let alone know they were being raised such a way, if ever.
You people are sick.
Btw, apparently you have to state your race for some reason (which is also despicable to ask if you really care about equality), so I will state that I'm a 24 year old man who is very mixed when it comes to race. I'm about 1/4th mayan, with some european blood that's a mix of some mongol + spainard blood.
I'm very mixed, but I come out looking mexican or hispanic.
I don't see why it matters much, the fact that some of these people may claim "your people never were repressed", is a bullshit statement since looking hispanic means you were lumped into the "colored" group during the early 1900s of America.
I grew up without being discriminated against by many people except the elderly whites, are you people 70 year old farts as well?
These people make me sick.
If we use the same logical that she used then every game is Racist
Well eact for games where you kill Nazis.
And THAT is why this is bullshit.
So what is the different between black and white Zombies Nothing eact for color, which for some stupid reason make a different. I do not see a different.
SO TO SAY THAT THE GAME IS RACIST BECAUSE ITS ANTAGIONISTS ARE OF YOUR RACE IS SAYING THAT YOUR RACE IS SUPPORIOR TO OTHERS.
IF KILLING SPAINARDS ISN'T RACIST
IF KILLING AMERICANS ISN'T RACIST
IF KILLING GERMANS ISN'T RACIST
IF KILLING YOUR RACE IS RACIST THEN YOUR BEING RACIST!
Oh, don't worry, I'm not crying mommy, I know the accusators are nothing but trolls, and I won't feed them. It's just so weird to be called a "racist"...
#2. Black zombies in Africa = racism. White zombies in Africa = apartheid racism.
The race card isn't an Ace anymore, lady. It's a JOKER.
Their preceptions are going to be their preceptions, no matter what anyone says. Comes down to either you're with those individuals or you're against those individuals, at least that's MY preception.
Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
Why is it when is it when there are black people depicted in any sort of "bad" way that we have to get all up in arms about it.
NEWSFLASH***
Black people do bad things sometimes!
Now in this case, they are frigging zombies (or zombie-like). I think the game looks excellent as it DOES remind me of Black Hawk Down.
Let's explore what can be racist here:
1. The fact that there are black people in it.
That can't be it. Other races have been in games. My race isn't special.
2. Black people are the bad guys/killers in the game.
It's set in Africa. What do you expect? I'd be more offended if it was set in Africa and there were only white people there. The country of Africa is not off-limits because black people reside there.
3. The white guy is the good guy.
Well the white guy (along with a white girl) was the good guy in ALL of the games. Even ones where....wait for it.....the white guy killed white and hispanic ZOMBIES AND MONSTERS!
4. There will be those that make racists comments about killing black people.
Uhhh....so what? If you are black (or whatever) and want to trounce the game, not becuase you believe the game is racist, but because others make evil racist comments about it then you are an idiot.
Make comment back about those spewing their racist drivel about the game, if anything. The game itself is fine (from what I've seen).
I guess to appease some black people, there also has to be a black protagonist in the game. Maybe blacks can only kill blacks.
"...too logical to draw accurate comparisons."
Uh, if you're being logical, then there must be accuracy. Apparently, being intelligent is a bad thing if you don't agree with some of these individuals who want to say things along the lines of "You're white, therefore, you are a racist".
Inaccurate comparisons aren't logical.
Perhaps the individuals thinking along those lines believe that THEIR PRECEPTIONS from their own view is the only logical accuracy and that no one else's views count.
The idea that you don't know what racism from a victim's standpoint is unless you are of a particular race or that only select races can be racist, or that Hate Crimes can only be commited against one group of Humans but not another, or that Equality is only a Right for selected groups, but not everyone (such as saying "Equal Rights for Women" as opposed to "Equal Rights for EVERYONE").
Perhaps the logic these individuals are disagreeing with doesn't fit in with the biased attitudes those individuals apparently have in regards to this issue.
Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
o wait that right (l;augh) u cant be racists against white people (slaps table) i compleatly forgot.
but im all seriousness. really? i mean really? how paranoid do you have to be in order to view RE4 as racist? now if all the peple were rappers and they all are zombies from super aids that they got from their bitches and hoes. and all their pimps be slappin em and you used a giant fire hose to wack down the "crazy negroes" then yes. yes. its is racist.
but from my under standing no thats not case.
i mean would you perfer it be set in africa but have native american zombies. would that make you happy?
OMG!!! Blacks in the Resident Evil 5 game...
The author is wrong on so many levels. First, she's wrong to judge a game she's never played. After all, passing judgement based on first impressions is exactly what she's railing against. She doesn't want "black people" to be pre-judged either. Second, she's wrong that this game is being targetted to kids. It's a survival horror game which can't be purchased by anyone under 17 without a parent. Third, she's wrong to focus on the characters' skin color. Would it be better if white people were being killed by white people? How about Asians, Latinos, or Native Americans? The fact is that Capcom makes games where characters of all different races hurt each other. By objecting to the brutality against only black game characters, the author is exposing her own racism.
So congrats to the author on coming out of the closet as a racist. She can feel free to express her concern about any game she wants. Her opinion is every bit as valid as the hundreds of idiots calling her names. However, it's no more intelligent or better thought out than any of the responses it has recieved.
By the way, I know I've already posted the link and quoted paragraphs from Gary Pellino's article "the shame of the game" ( http://ptgptb.org/0004/antigame.html ) , but I can't resist quoting it again because I'm starting to feel the same shame :
"Blind hatred - or prejudice - is a deliriously easy and enjoyable doctrine to follow, as it taps into your most selfish desires, and completely relieves you of the burden of having to think. It makes your beliefs appear to be unshakably correct, and hence anything you do based on those beliefs is vindicated. And that can be quite intoxicating. Best of all, it turns you into a hero. If the enemy is evil, then your opposition of them makes you a warrior for the true path.
As lovers of fantasy, (as most role-players are) this image is one to which we are particularly drawn. If the anti-gaming movement is the evil empire, then we must be the rebels, fighting valiantly to turn back their tide of oppression. And maybe we are as good looking as Han Solo, too. This, then is the reason that players continue to fight even though the battle is over - we are, perhaps subconsciously, playing out our own fantasy games in real life. So the source of the gaming prejudice myth is, in the end, ourselves: we make ourselves into the oppressed , because we enjoy the feeling of hating our oppressors.
However, the real world does not work like fantasy. And, ironically, this attitude is as much a threat to gaming as BADD ever were. Playing the victim only gives more credence to the other side; the more we scream about the evils of our opponents, the more it looks like they have a case. The more we propagate the myth that role-playing is prejudiced, the more people believe that there is a reason for this prejudice. Worst of all, by allowing ourselves to be prejudiced, we end up acting as bigoted and oppressive as did our opposition.
As I said above, one mention of anti-gaming sentiment can have even the most cerebral gamers jumping up and screaming at the top of their voices about the evils of Pulling, BADD, and all fundamentalists. And this is regardless of who raised the comment - I've even seen gamers attack their fellows around the table with this kind of abuse, simply because they happened to voice some not-quite-anti-BADD comments. I've heard BADD and Pulling labelled with words normally aimed at Hitler and the Nazis - bigoted, deluded, oppressive, insane, even evil (that favourite of the fundamentalists). Worse, I've heard these classifications applied to anyone who even remotely resembles BADD, so all fundamentalists, or even all Christians, become part of the evil anti-gaming movement.
It sometimes seems that we are more interested in proving that RPGs are harmless - or more importantly, that its detractors are wrong - than we are with actually playing the things. Not only does this not help the issue, but it reflects badly on the hobby as a whole, making us look like the militant extremists.
It is about time we laid down our arms. Blind hatred or mindless ridicule does nobody any good, and may even lead to a repeat of the same problem. Rather, if we try to understand our enemy, we can examine the cause of the problem, and hopefully correct it. It's time to stop mocking, denigrating and devaluing their opinions, and started trying to listen, and to understand. And maybe even communicate."
All the reasons that have been cited are correct. First, Capcom is mainly a Japanese company and the fact that the main charecter is white and the infected villagers are black shouldn't even matter. The second reason is that the main charecter is just protecting himself from the infected villagers. #3 is that the past games almost all of the zombies have been white and now that they are black, why does it matter? Number 4 is that some people are actually looking for this game to be racist. Personally, I found this persons arguement laughable at best.
Of course, one of the most ridiculous accusations was that this game is being marketed to children. That is terribly false. I walked into a Gamestop the other day and saw a kid try to buy God of War 1 and 2, and the guy took one look at the kid, took the games from him, and told the kid that he couldn't buy that game for a couple of years. Yes, I cringe when I see a kid walk up to a parent and tells them that they want a game, and It's rated M, and the parents in their ignorance buy it for them. That is plain wrong. I don't see many parents buying their kids rated R movies. Politicians are right in one aspect. We have to start informing parents about what rated M means and stop this ignorance. But I digress.
You see, there are many reasons why this whole accusation is wrong. But if you're going to denounce someones opinion, at least have a little more tact. When you read this, I hope that you agree with me, but if you don't, that's ok. My polictical convictions are the same as yours.
Also, in Dead Rising, Brad is a black man who is portrayed very respectably. He's not stereotyped at all (i.e. non-"gansta", non-ebonic, etc.), and is a United States Department of Homeland Security agent. He's a pretty heroic character in the game, and a very respectable one at that. He's not the lead character, but he is a very important character to the story nonetheless.
In Resident Evil 2 Marvin Branagh is a surviving R.P.D. officer, he's black as well. When you meet him he's already suffering from a fatal wound and succumbing to the T-Virus, but before then he helps you out and tells you to find and rescue survivors. After that they gave him a role in Resident Evil Outbreak: File 2, which takes place sometime before RE2, where he assists the characters in the game and it show how he became morally wounded. He wasn't stereotyped, was a police officers, and he was valiant and selfless. He was a good positive character.
In Resident Evil Outbreak: File 2 you can play as a black man named Mark Wilkins. He worked for a security company in Raccoon City, was a Vietnam veteran. Approximately fifty-one years old, has great strength, wants to live a peaceful life. He's not stereotypical at all, and I think portrayed as a great guy.
This isn't much, I know, but this is all from Capcom. They're never really depicted a black person in a bad way. There hasn't been a black villain at all, almost all of the villains responsible for the outbreaks and creations of the viruses are white men. White people are almost always depicted as villains in Resident Evil, even the lovable bear like Barry was swayed to betray you at one point. White people are always the bad guys. Now that it's finally got some black enemies, who obviously aren't in control of themselves as they've been taken over by some sort of virus or parasite, it's wrong to use them? Doesn't make much sense. Wouldn't be surprised seeing some white men there as the reason the outbreak happened since they're always the bad guys, Wesker will probably end up being behind it or something.
The reason that black people haven't been used as leads in video games is because having a lead black hero would not sell.
So Capcom who once again, doesn't really have any black characters in their stable to begin with, and has made like a myriad of RE games with barely any people of color decides to have Chris Redfield shoot up a bunch of Africans.
People were used to the status quo of playing European lead characters and shooting other Europeans. So now all of sudden we use black characters but now they are getting slaughtered... hmmm?
Where's the problem you say?
I heard this game was inspired by black hawk down, another piece of media that was complained about as racist because the angry mobs acted like angry mobs and were black.
Lets face it if you look for racisim you'll find it.
I put up posts in the first thread. They were well thought out(at least in my opinion ; ), free of any racial terms or slurs. I am 32, white, Australian. I am not the "typical" teenage white male*.
If Kym Platt is unhappy with the response to her article and follow up comments, perhaps she should consider that she is reaping the hate she sowed. Her tongue in cheek comment about "all zombies should be white from here on" is still a racist statement. Perhaps if people spent some time thinking before propagating hate, they may find the rest of the world more understanding.
RE5 does not contain racist material unless you choose to see people as a colour rather than people (or more relevantly, virally created zombies). If you choose to see people as a colour, you are tending towards racism ie. differentiating by race.
Kym is the root of the problem here. Before her article, I'd say that most of GP's readers had never heard of her. The strength of the reaction is in line because she's essentially saying that anyone who will play this game is endorsing racism, a patently ridiculous assumption.
*Ironic that the assumption is we are all teenage, white and male. Talk about racial profiling... Reading the feedback to her blogg entry (which was cut off at 100 some odds posts by the site, talk about freedom of expression), many responders noted that they were African-American and objected to her comments.
1 - Communautarism is bad.
2 - Anger is a bad adviser.
3 - Now, gamers will be scrutinized much more than any group, and we'll have to act in consequence. Even though it's unfair, even though we think we don't have to justify ourselves for any so-called "gamer's" death threat or hate mail... well, we'll don't have choice (have we ever had it, anyway ?).
Sorry but even though I agree her statement was sarcastic it proved a point. She has no idea how to use sarcasm. She rails when people insult her for a view that has 0 legs to stand on, then goes and makes a racist comment when the entire webpage she is posting on is about combating racism. Its hypocritical, and racist anyway you look at it. Looking at the context of her blog and the page shes on theres not many other ways to interpret it. Sarcasm? Probably but it poor taste and at the wrong time. People need to learn how to use Sarcasm, its an art form and people like Kym butcher it. I suggest she read "A modest proposal" and maybe pick up a thing or two on how to use sarcasm in an argument.
As far is people being too logical to understand the emotions people have, I'm sorry but theres a limit to when you can excuse people for being retarded when they are emotionally driven. Making a statement without any evidence to back it up and everything else pointing in another direction shows a lack of research. Just because you see racism by viewing a trailer of a game you have no knowledge on and no idea where it takes place does not make it racist. YOU NEED CONTEXT in order to determine if something is racist.
For example, I use to be able to say "I've never met a black person I liked." Which is an can be received as a extremely racist comment without any context to it. However, when you put it together with the fact that I was limited to 2 black kids in my school and both were just little shits and it had nothing to do with their skin color then it changes my statement completely. Then I went to off to a new area and met a few of cool black people and I could no longer say that comment. (Which I was sad about because it was a great comment to get peoples eyes to bulge for about 5 seconds.)
Like I said either way you look at it Kym is in the wrong for both her blog and her following comments afterwards. The game clearly does not have racist undertones unless you are ignorant of the series and refuse to do any research on the topic. Which makes anything you have to say on said topic worthless and not worth even being mentioned. I'm sorry but 1+1 != 3. Protagonist + zombies != racism.
As stated before, the first 3 REs had WHITE ZOMBIES! No one bitched.
Number 4 had spanish zombies. No one bitched.
RE5 has black Zombies OMG ITS RACISM!
What jackasses.
First, this discussion, across all the sites in general, has devolved a little too much. It's done from "This could be offensive" to "You don't understand anything" (on both sides).
Second, there's one huge point I don't see anywhere I look, on main posts or comments. In general, the commentors are not representative of the gaming community. I'm not saying it's true here, but overall, most of the commentors are not the adults of the gaming community. The majority of people cruising the internet reading anything about games are not people over the 18 to 24 demographic.
My third point is linked to the second. Frankly, the minors responding overall don't have much to bitch about. I wouldn't normally say that. In this case though, they aren't saying much about freedom of speech in general terms. It's all about a game they shouldn't have their hands on for a couple years. Yes, some may reach a suitable age by the time it's realeased. In total though, many of the comments appear to be from entirely too young people. Maybe that's just the maturity level though.
Up fourth, I read a comment somewhere that seemed to liken this to V-Tech Rampage. As we all know, that has nothing to do with most games. That was a home-brew idiot. I can't believe people can be ignorant enough to not research these things. It's almost as bad as how RE5 is supposedly being marketed to kids. That almost made me laugh.
Fifth, forgive the pun, but the entired topic has become black and white. On one side, the argument is that at best it's insensitive, and at worst it's society training racist killers. On the other side, it's a harmless game that might as well be wire frame because it's that harmless. Where are the shades of grey? Hell, there should be a whole pallet here. It's a little from both and everyone wants to assign complete blame. Was it maybe a little insensitive? Yeah, probably. Is it meant as a harmless setting? Of course it is. A compromise should be easy, but of course it won't be.
Finally, I dread this getting to the main stream media. They hardly ever have anyone who knows video games on. Add the extra political issues and it's a huge news story. In reality, most Americans are too ignorant ro understand this kind of thing. They know what the media tells them. They hear "racist video games" and it's another huge set-back.
So that's my impressions so far. I think I'm adding racism to my list of things to avoid talking about. It'd go right next to religion and politics. It's never going away. I hope no one gets hurt from all of this.
1. The reason why they're acting like "inhuman savages" is because they're ZOMBIES! Zombies are supposed to be inhuman and savage.
2. They're being killed because they are zombies. If a zombie came up to you and was trying to kill you, no matter what color it is, you'd kill it, right? I wouldn't let it kill me, just because it happens to be black.
3. There is a "white man in military clothing", because he is some random military soldier who happens to be stuck in a zombie-infected African town.
The makers were obviously trying to once again simulate village-like environment, as they did in Resident Evil 5.
4. The only race of zombie in the first three games was WHITE. Yet not one white person said that its offensive. In Resident Evil 4 the makers decided to make the zombies Spanish, but nobody found that racist. But suddenly, when the made black zombies, then they have "gone too far".
Quit whining about it, no other race has. I don't find white zombies racist.
It seems that certain people are too sensitive and always looking for something thats they consider "racist". They're too closed-minded to see anything but racism, because everything can be considered racist if you think about it. The only reason those close-minded people make a big deal about stuff they claim is "racist" is because they are miserable inside and have nothing better to do but try to force other people see things in their perspective only. People like that aren't even worth paying attention to. And I'm not talking only about black people.
So why make a such a big deal over a single, insignificant game? After all it is just a game. So get over it already.
I used to live with a guy from Africa, and let me tell you, that guy wouldn't have given two craps about this. And he was friggin crazy. The kind of dude who sincerely believed OJ Simpson and Michael Jackson had been framed. Loved Malcolm X. Had posters of the man everywhere. And he wouldn't have cared one bit about something this dumb. You know why? Cause he's SEEN racism. Not this stupid crap that these spoiled little punks think "Oh no they didn't! RACISTS!" I mean real racism. Burn your neighbor's house down and shoot them racism.
The people who write these blogs are the people who don't understand what racism is. People treat you a little carefully, maybe store owners watch you a little more than everyone else? A virtual white guy is portrayed shooting virtual undead black people? Big deal. Call me when Capcom is firebombing your churches, I'll be behind you 100%.
Until then just shut the hell up. You don't know anything about actual injustice.
I would imagine the same people who made death threats against Thompson are the same folks who have attacked Ms Platt with slurs and racial epitaphs. None of us should have a problem admitting it, stupidty abounds in the gaming community.
And what did any of us expect from a community where people post "I just creamed in my pants" after seeing the latest game clip? Reason? Wisdom? Of course not.
As soon as I heard about this I rushed over to Ms Platts blog. I so desperately wanted to be one of the first who would respond to her charges of racism intelligently.
But once I arrived I saw Kim Platts response-
"Yes… I am more comfortable with the zombies being white. In fact, ALL zombies should be white from this day forth."
And that's when I realized it wasn't going to be possible to have an intelligent discussion with Ms Platt. In fact Ms Platt may demonstrated a little bigotry of her own.
Ms Platt may think that she is championing an noble cause. This isn't. Ms Platt may even think that she's a hero to the black community. Not this time at least.
But Ms Platt unfortunately may be nothing more than an opportunistic fire starter. One of those in our community who looks for the next racial explosion. I could be wrong, but I don't think that I am.
I really don't want to see the black community investing any energy or passion into Resident Evil. Why waste an ounce of concern over this particular video game?
Why not direct some of this passion towards the educational system that has failed our children so miserably? Why not use this energy to get summer jobs programs reinstated? It's been heartbreaking turning away so many young people this summer, but the even mid-sized company I work for can't hire them all.
What will banning Resident Evil solve? Nothing, absolutely nothing. RE5 is is not a watershed moment in the struggle for equal rights. This isn't the defining moment when a tired working class woman refuses to give up her seat. Not even close. This is Resident Evil, a video game. And in this case, a misunderstanding about story plot intentions......nothing more.
To Ms Platt I would say, as a gamer I have KILLED EVERYTHING. As a gamer I have done things that would put a modern day tyrant to shame.
I have slain dinosaurs and mythical monsters. I have taken on Sith Lords, Drug Lords, War Lords and Land Lords. I have single handedly killed over a BILLION Nazis, more than the number that actually fought in WW2. I have nuked cities without a care for the consequences. I've have brought entire Empires to their knees and have personally overseen the destruction and brutal subjugation of HUNDREDS OF WORLDS.
And yes , when Resident Evil 5 is released, I will be killing Zombies from Port-au-Prince..............as a game experience. That's all it is Ms Platt, not the beast rising from the eternal sea, not the bright shining lie that the war in Iraq has become. Just a game. Nothing worthy of our community's time as racial problem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EyeNi6qsfs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzGM1nv_oow&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCDcl9s9Vh4&mode=related&search=
Muwhahahahaa. When you look at the world through science. It all becomes clear....I think...
The game isnt racist .
Some of the first to say they thought it was maby didnt handle it properly.
Other people agree with them
some people dont
The flame war begins
People get mad
the insults fly
once agian because of the bs the gamers look like the bad guys
I sware its a friggin template for anything that some thing like this comes up. Its a cycle that never ends because people love the view form atop there soapbox. This template isn't even limited to gamers but Ill stop now good day
Merdok
Upon thinking of it some more, I concede your point. However, I don't think they are techinically oppressed anymore... though I'd have to research the word some more. But yes, people taking pride in their accomplishments is all fine and good. I was thinking of it more from a "I'm better than you" stand point, which is unfair.
Either way, it'd still be nothing more than a strawman argument.
Moving on, I forsee problems here with the author. Deciding to actually read the full article to fully understand the situation here. I also took the time to look through the comments. On askthisblackwoman.com , she states that people called her various words deemed innapropriate. I did a search for said words, and i found these points:
1. Only one person called her a whore, and the sentence was "You are a racist whore"... I don't see "black whore" anywhere, as she claims.
2. She claims someone posted: "Get back into the cotton fields, you filthy nigger." THough it is possible that said post could have been deleted, I didn't see any other posts pertaining to the statement. However... see point 3.
3. As far as teh derogatory term "nigger" goes, there were a couple posters known as Anonymous who used that term multiple times on blacklooks.com . Just by merely glancing at those posts, and the username, I can determine its origins. I cant say any more, because that would violate rules 1 and 2, but It's safe to assume you cannot take those posts seriously.
4. "...Marketed towards children and Young adults..."
... what?
5. She does deserve this slander against her because she's attacking the Gaming Community without doing a further background check. She also posted a very racist comment. I respect those posters who submitted their angry reply without further name-calling
By no means am I degrading the points brought up by blog author Bonnie Ruberg. Bonnie brought about the point first as informative, and ending with "What If's". All Bonnie is doing is calling attention to something that could be controversial. however, Kim Platt went about this the very wrong way.
To end this: I am a white male, but by no means am i racist. I have friends of many different origions and colors. I know that some of my friends wouldn't enjoy this game BECAUSE THEY DONT LIKE SHOOTING GAMES, NOT BECAUSE OF ITS CONTENT.
Thank you for your time.
As one may see, above I posted the RE History, personally I dont like the type of game. Although I really like the innovative ideas of gameplay.
White Undead were killed for ages and decades. No one said anything, neither JT.
1. It's a really, really, cheap debating technique to focus only on the comments that you can easily refute. Of course the hate-filled racial epithets were bad, condemn them all you want, but don't you dare pretend that everyone one of us is like that. Don't only quote the rabid insults and the compliments, quote the calm, rational arguments against you as well.
2. Disgusting. Just disgusting. Black people are hardly featured as the world leaders in mindless, evil activities. Hitler or Stalin, anyone? So what if black people are being portrayed negatively. For every game that shows black people in a bad light, there are many more that show whites in a bad light. People making media where people of your race are shown as the bad guys is a part of this lovely thing called free speech. Get used to it. We have.
3. Much better. Condemning the hate-filled responses and offering a reasonable response to the reaonable questions. Bravo.
In conclusion, people who complain about race in a setting like this, regardless of which race, need to get over themselves.
Everybody around the world killed the spanish Zombies in the game.
No Spanish guy was killed. What a surprise!!
Resident Evil 1 - white people are zombies
Resident Evil 2 - white people are zombies
Resident Evil 3: Nemesis - white people are zombies
Resident Evil Code: Veronica - white people are zombies
Resident Evil Survivor - white people are zombies
Resident Evil Gaiden - white people are zombies
Resident Evil: Survivor 2 Code: Veronica - white people are zombies
Resident Evil Zero - white people are zombies
Resident Evil: Dead Aim - white people are zombies
Resident Evil Outbreak - white people are zombies
Resident Evil Outbreak File #2 - white people are zombies
Resident Evil 4 - white people are zombies
Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles - white people are zombies
Resident Evil 5 - BLACK AFRICANS?! RACISM - White Opression O.o ??
Please, I’m sure the majority of ALL people won’t give a flying crap.
Unfortunately, they then said: "the images used in the game, already disturbing because it is resident evil, also reflect hateful images that were real"", and a lot of credibility was lost.
I did not see a reflection of hateful images. Are they implying that black people were turned into zombies by an evil corporation in the past? Now, if the white character took part in a lynching of a black person, or called them certain names, or burned a cross, THEN you would have a reflection of hateful images. Things that have actually happened and been disgustingly hateful. This however is science fiction/horror fiction and does not reflect reality in any way, hateful or otherwise.
I just wish that more people would see this for what it is, a video game that is continuing a long running series that is grounded in pure fiction, not something that is "meant to invoke hate towards black people in the not too distant history of america…". When I first saw the trailer, my thoughts were "Excellent! Another game in the style of Resident Evil 4!". I really enjoyed RE4 due to the claustrophobic and frantic nature of the action, knowing that you are outnumbered and having to take shelter and run to avoid being swarmed by more enemies than you can deal with. I didnt enjoy RE4 because I was able to virtually shoot enemies of a certain ethnicity, and I won't enjoy RE5 for that either. I will enjoy it because I like the storyline and wish to see it continued and look forward to more of the same exciting action I experienced in the previous game.
@ Darrell:
Why would you bring Mr. Thompson up in relation to this? It serves no purpose other than to try and goad him into a response (which I must give him credit for as it was brief and to the point!). It doesn't matter if you are being sarcastic, it adds nothing to the debate of this topic and as such was a silly and childish post to make.
Resident Evil comes out in 1996 and is heavily influenced by Romero's "Dead" movies. Predominantly white zombies are killed throughout the series. Now, an 11-year-old franchise with 5 main games under its belt (0-Code Veronica) where the MAIN protaganist in all but 1 (4) has been a woman, plus spin-offs and THREE movies, is getting flak for its 5th main numbered game because of black zombies. Even if one isn't familiar with games, I would think that someone must've heard of RE in some way shape or form before this.
Tracing the origins of zombie to the modern day hubab over RE5 is just too damn weird.
Saying that, I think the people who racially abused Kym Platt are a utter disgrace and I hope if Kym Platt is reading this that she knows that not all gamers are a fucking disgrace who racially abuse people. To a much lesser extent, I know what it's like (with a idiot on live calling me a Scottish c**t, and with social problems here in Scotland itself though thats a relgious thing)
"given the response from gamers… I think we should all be very afraid. Many of these folks seem like the type who would try to reenact scenes from Resident Evil 5. Can you say Columbine?"
Is Jack Thompson really behind this ??? I am having some doubts.
http://www.blacklooks.org/2007/08/where_lies_the_resident_evil.html
Come now, you don't seriously think I was being serious, do you? There's a little thing called "sarcasm". I wasn't being serious.
Speaking of counseling, sounds like you need it more than I do.
Funny thing is, I was thinking just about the same thing, when I was watching the trailer. I was thinking: Some people will really be offended by this!
(NB: Its only the latest opportunity to bash the “White oppressor” Al Sharpdon leading the way).
See, he harassed many gamers to the extent that they have poisoned many gamers' way of thinking towards game critics. Thanks to Jack Thompson, any person who criticize games (even the ones who DO raise valid points) are painted the same bad brush as Jack Thompson.
And you know what? I wouldn't put it past the fact that he WOULD do this. Maybe it was his plan all along. Piss many gamers off so the next time anyone who criticizes games will be flamed, trolled and so on, making gamers look bad in the process, and then he'll rise up to to get what he wants among the flamewars.
What she just did was the blogging equivalent of walking into a bar, hitting some random person in the back of the head then sobbing how persecuted she is that the person hit back.
Yes, a lot of people were very nasty back, and that is un-excusable. But it IS explainable. It's called other people have feelings too.
For those who think that just because I am a fan of this horror franchise so that I must be racist, you are wrong. I myself is an anti-racist and I happen to be also a horror and action fan. So to those fuckers who think that I am a racist, then to hell with you.
As someone else has already said I think one of the problems is that people who have experienced racism first-hand are all too quick to claim it because they fear it happening again. I'm not saying they are wrong, frankly I would be upset and "paranoid" about it if I had experienced something like that too.
Ultimately though, it doesn't matter if it is racist or not. As much as we hate the idea of someone making a racist statement, their ability to make that statement is protected as long as it doesn't lead to harm. Could this lead to harm... Maybe. But so could any other movie, game or other piece of media that contains violence. If we start banning this or that because it MIGHT lead to violence unintentionally we may as well stop producing movies and games because that will be the end of them.
It is a shame that the internet seems to drag up attitudes of racist behaviour that Kym Platt experienced, but to be honest you don't have to look far to find people willing to say anything just to cause trouble or get some attention that they cannot find elsewhere. This isn't so much gamers being racist as internet trolls finding someone to attack to get their kicks. I'm certainly not going to apologise for or take responsibility for these people just because I'm white. They are scum; deal with it.
"Not to mention that zombies “are thought to have originated in Haiti.” Voodoo anyone?"
Of course it needs stating that the West's knowledge of Voodoo is almost entirely rubbish. For instance, there's no such thing as a voodoo doll; the sticking of pins into a replica to cause pain is from Western Witches. The only dolls used by Voodoo are with pegs and for healing.
The reason for the misinformation fed was because the Christian faith wanted to discredit the other religious beliefs in order to help convert to Christianity. Another example of our poor history. That isn't to say we have to either a, stay ignorant to the past or b, be held responsible for past attrocities.
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