L.A. Times to Schwarzenegger: Drop Video Game Law Appeal

August 13, 2007
It won't be back...

At least that's the conclusion drawn by the Los Angeles Times concerning California's 2005 video game law, ruled unconstitutional by a federal judge last week.

An editorial in today's edition urges Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to abandon his planned appeal of Judge Ronald Whyte's ruling:
Having made a career off fantasy violence, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is an odd advocate for the regulation of violent video games...

Of course parents should screen the games their kids play... But those are parental duties, not governmental ones. And the more lawmakers try to take over for parents on these issues, the more they run afoul of the Constitution.

In particular, it's well nigh impossible to regulate violent video games without violating the 1st Amendment's free-speech guarantee...

With Whyte's decision, the courts have now thrown out attempts by seven states, one county and one city to regulate violent video games. There's no reason to believe that appealing his ruling will change the outcome, or that it should. The governor shouldn't waste tax dollars in a relentless pursuit of certain defeat.

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Actually, the FTC was really harsh towards the movie and music industries as well. Its just that they don't care.

Actually, the FTC was really harsh on the Movie and music industries. Its just that the movie and music industries don't care.

@cullarn
I know. But keep in mind, its the ftc. A bunch of old fossils observing trade.

at the risk of sounding paranoid if you were to check the context of the other reports for movies and the such this report sounds a bit like government doublespeak

@austin lewis
i just reposted it you will have to contact the ftc for futher comment lol

@Monte
Good to know; thanks.

The Rating is on the front of the package, if you want to read it, you can waste that calorie to turn the fucking package around.

"Currently, the ESRB prohibits ads for M-rated games on Web sites where the under-17 audience is 45% or more." So the kids can be aware of the game and their parents can be too. Awareness never hurt anyone.

"87% of parents surveyed said they are aware of the ESRB system, more than seven in ten use it when their child wants to play a game for the first time, and three quarters of the parents who are familiar with the content descriptors use them."

87% of parents survered SAID they're aware, and more than 70% SAID THEY USE IT.

This doesn't mean they actually use it, its just the number of people who said they knew what it is to look good. The FTC's information is skewed because people aren't going to tell the truth on things like this.

The real problem here? Not the industry, the regulatory group, or the government; its the lack of parenting.

this is the ftc report on video games for 07

Video Games: Although ads for M-rated video games on television shows that are popular with teens appear to be diminishing, the same is not true for Internet advertising. Currently, the ESRB prohibits ads for M-rated games on Web sites where the under-17 audience is 45% or more. The report suggests that the ESRB is not adequately enforcing even this limited standard. The video game industry generally provides clear and prominent disclosure of rating information in advertising; however, the ESRB has not adopted the Commission’s previous recommendation that content descriptors for games be placed on the front of game packaging. The Commission’s survey of parents and children on their awareness and use of the video game ratings system showed an overall positive picture of the game rating system: 87% of parents surveyed said they are aware of the ESRB system, more than seven in ten use it when their child wants to play a game for the first time, and three quarters of the parents who are familiar with the content descriptors use them. However, many parents still believe the system can do more to inform them about the level of violence in some games.

Fantastic article. Someone needs to give this writer an award and a pat on the back.

Can someone get their address? Maybe we could all toss e-mails to show support.

that was actually a very good article (are you sure its really from the mass media =p) sorry i had too

keep up the good work times

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Are retailers really the problem? Is there any research anywhere to suggest that store clerks are not in fact checking ID? I worked in a video rental store and was personally quite adamant about not renting to minors; every time I turned some 14 year old from renting GTA they would inevitably return a short time later with an irate parent who didn’t care at all about the rating.

*I'm reposting this from a comment I made on an earlier article (because the comments there have turned into another anti-Jack rant)

It's rather ironic that he's fighting so hard to regulate to video games when he himself was in scored of movies that used the MPAA's voluntary and self-regulatory ratings systems. What good enough for the goose is apparently not good enough for the gander in Ah-nold's eyes.

arnold is the LAST person who has say in this media violence debate as he has been part of some of the most violent films and to some extent, games, created up to today. as much as i respect him, i just cannot take his opinion seriously considering who he is and what he has made a career from in the past.

@David Bennie
Yes there is research, it was done by the FTC; they do it every couple of years. In last years study, they found that retailers fail to check ID about 40% of the time... however that number isn't as bad if you compare it to movie theaters which were only a little lower, and movie retialers which were all the way up at about 70% (i don't have the exact numbers on me)

That was a well written piece.

If Arnie wants to do something for the kids, he should pump some of that money into the public school system...

This is a beautiful statement. It reminds us of Arnold's own past, that parents have an important role, and that these pointless attacks are unconstitutional.

Will Arnold listen to such good advice? Probably not.

Again, it's fitting that the governator is against violent video games, and the headline image is of a video game said man was in, and a violent one no less.

Of course parents should screen the games their kids play… But those are parental duties, not governmental ones. And the more lawmakers try to take over for parents on these issues, the more they run afoul of the "Constitution."

OMG, someone finally said it in directly in the mass media!

"Of course parents should screen the games their kids play… But those are parental duties, not governmental ones. And the more lawmakers try to take over for parents on these issues, the more they run afoul of the Constitution."

Best quote ever!!!

That is one of the best descriptions of anti-video game legislation I have ever read: "a relentless pursuit of certain defeat."

Why to go Los Angeles Times. It good to see that some mainstream media outlets are against these unconstitutional and fiscally wasteful laws that would do nothing to prevent any actual real problems in society.
These laws are guarantee to fail and it's just a slap in the face of taxpayers as well as the constitution to continue trying to get these laws through.

finally someone out there who has the guts to say that parents need to govern their own children.

I think it should also be noted that California is in quite a pickle in terms of funding. They're already cutting programs, no need to cut more to fund an appeal that's GUARANTEED to fail.

Sorry but its hard for me to take him seriously on this issue. What a joke. At least Jesse Ventura stood up for the constitution and civil rights, Arnold is kind of a joke.

@ DragonBomber

But the Morlocks eat the Eloy for breakfast... and lunch and dinner. Literally. I don't think that will be a goodway to defend ourselves. What we need is the Time Traveler himself.

A message, to my future self:

Don't go home with Cindy! She has the AIDS! She wont tell you until later on!

Sincerely,
Me (which is you, really)

Darn you. You blew it all up. Darn you all to Hell!

...did we just lose all the posts since the 14th AGAIN?

No more Time Warp comments, they're breeding!

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Next time, you may want to elaborate a little more....
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