Game violence specialist? lol i guess we're all game violence experts then because we all know more about it than jack does.

Hell he's shown he fails to grasp the concept of user created content, how can he be considered an expert on anything to do with games?

They could have put someone with intelligence on but oh know they decided to put on Jack

Um, wasn't Jack issued with a restraining order against using this site?

A fake doctor and fake lawyer at the same place at the same time?

The universe will implode!

Radio Guy,
Huh? Not to my knowledge. Dennis had previous banned John Bruce for violations of GP posting policy and even IP blocked him.

Mr. John Bruce "I'm above all laws, rules, and policies" Thompson apparently, according to Dennis, started using a different IP address, which circumvented the IP block. And Dennis, during the recent 4 part rebuttal to an interview John Bruce did with PopZArt, decided to, probationally for lack of a better word, allow John Bruce posting privilages. At least until John Bruce breaks the rules again. Or so I understand.

Nightwng2000
NW2K Software

Still don't care. Dr. Quack is pretty farked in the head.

"for the paranoids in the blogosphere."

Self reference?

Dr. Phil was completely in the wrong with the statements he made after the VTech shootings.

We have already pointed out the flaws in his statements, but it just doesn't seem to sink in for some people. Refusing to give in and accept defeat is an admirable trait in a sports team, or someone facing difficulty in their life, but when it is an argument you are proven wrong in, then it's just silly.

Dr Phil said: "You cannot tell me - common sense tells you that if these kids are playing video games, where they’re on a mass killing spree in a video game, it’s glamorized on the big screen, it’s become part of the fiber of our society. You take that and mix it with a psychopath, a sociopath or someone suffering from mental illness and add in a dose of rage, the suggestibility is too high."

If you are "a psychopath, a sociopath or someone suffering from mental illness and add in a dose of rage", then anything can set you off. My girlfriend is a psychiatric nurse and a patient in a facility she worked in was comitted for beating up a women he saw operating an ATM. He believed that he owned all the money in the bank and that she was stealing from him.

You can't just pick one thing that is ALLEGED to have set off a person like this. If you want to blame video games for the actions of "a psychopath, a sociopath or someone suffering from mental illness" then you must also blame everything else that has caused similar actions such as the music of the Beatles (Charles Manson), the novel Catcher in The Rye Mark David Chapman), ATM machines (as in my previous example), abuse during childhood (John Wayne Gacy), etc.

Dr Phil also said: "We’re going to have to start addressing those issues and recognizing that the mass murders of tomorrow are the children of today that are being programmed with this massive violence overdose."

Incorrect. The mass murderers of tomorrow are indeed children of today, but they will not be murderers because of being "programmed" with violent media. They will be murderers because like every one before them, they will be as Dr Phil himself said, "a psychopath, a sociopath or someone suffering from mental illness", and something will happen to set them off. Getting rid of violent media will do nothing to prevent future mass murderers. The only way they can be stopped is through early detection of their mental problems and proper care and treatment.

I'm in hte UK so dont understand this fully but if memory serves don't you have a court ruling in the US that demonstrates that games dont cause violent actions. It strikes me that it is just another attack on a hobby that openly promotes freedom of thought and expresion.

I wish the word 'expert' meant something these days...

I think it would be great if the episode was for Jack instead of including him.

@ Jack

It's not your views against us that make us dislike you, It's the lying, hissy fits, and all around unethical behavior you display to EVERYONE. How does your family TRUTHFULLY feel about your crusade? Now, there is a way to be civilized and hold onto the your passion of anti-games that you so dearly love....there called Jehovah's Witnesses.

Dr. Phil's a very big name in entertainment. I wouldn't be surprised if everybody started following Jack Thompson's "idealism". Just what we need: Religion in video games.

Please be a "christian" elsewhere. Why did I put it in quotes? 'Cause there's two kinds of 'em now: Ones that'll kill you for disagreeing and ones that won't.

I was just reading through some of the comments in the other thread after the JT ones and I find it funny that JT thinks that Dennis doesn't tell us the truth. With every article that Gamepolitics prints, Dennis includes all associated links to reports, press releases, blogs, anything that has anything to do with the topic. Yet when JT sends out press releases or court documents, he claims to have "evidence" provided by "experts" yet he never provides this "evidence" not does he provide the names of his "experts"

So who am I supposed to believe? The one who provides further information, or the one who claims to have further information yet never provides it?

@Jack

Yup, like E. Zachary Knight said, we're not accusing you of not going on. We're accusing you of being the egotistical, lie-spewing jackass you are.

Anyhow, this whole thing reminds me of something I heard about (I tried to look for video, but to no avail). Apparently, there was an episode of Tyra where they talked about us pagans, and satanists. But it was such BS, because she didn't listen to anything they said and kept asking ridiculous questions like "Do you cast death spells?" and repeating incorrect statements, like "I can't believe I got people who worship Satan!" If you know anything about that stuff, harm against others is very much frowned upon nor is that what magic really is, and secondly, real Satanists have nothing to do with the Christian devil at all. In fact, I find some of it rather reasonable; it's most certainly not a bad faith. But then at the end, they got this uber-christian, supposedly an ex-witch, woman who came on and started spewing nonsense on how evil it was and such.

The worst part though, was I read some of the comments on their website, and there was some like "Oh wow Tyra, you have really opened my eyes" and praise and such. It makes me sick; she taught nothing, and anyone who considered it informative, they learned nothing either, yet people believe all the same.

And sadly, if little boy Jacky is on Dr. Phil, as said earlier, the same thing will happen there; there will people who actually believe the falsity of this crap, because Dr. Phil says this or that.

Jack,
Shut the hell up.

@Ashton

No I am pretty sure a small black hole will form and pull them into one monstrous being.

"Oh, and my cell phone records prove they called me, for the paranoids in the blogosphere."


Oh don't worry Jack we believe you. After Virginia Tech Dr. Phil proved to be nothing more than a media sensationalist by riding your coat tails on the "Cho" was a gamer thing, without evidence, hours after the event. It would surprise me if such a louse didn't invite you.

@Jack Thompson

1. No one cares about your cell phone
2. No one is paranoid about you
3. It doesn't matter what you say on Dr Phil's show, he's already lost credibility.
4. It doesn't matter what you say ever, you lost credibility when you called me a nazi gamer
5. Dr Phil was wrong about Virginia Tech, Just as you were/are
6. The fact that you had to make a comment in a story just to tell Dennis about this proves how pathetic you are
7. I'm pretty sure most people that have seen you on tv aren't going to watch this, since you'll just grandstand and spew lies faster than a speeding bullet
8. Anyone who does watch it, should be able to see your grandstanding for themselves and thus ignore you.

Phoenix Wright is more of an attorney than Jackie Boy will ever be.

And he's fucking dead.

@Jack Thompson:

You seem to really like this website. You just keep coming back to this "worst example of a game industry stooge".

Every person I know would distantiate his or herself from websites which they know would never agree with their statements or sympathize with their beliefs. You just keep coming back to the people you call "paranoid", people that will never give you the attention that you want. Unless you like negative attention and you're just out to hurt your own feelings.

Please tell me why! It baffles me..

I'd go as far as calling JT a Nazi, but calling everyone who disagrees with them Nazis is now the trademark of JT, the Republican party and the rest of those right-wing racists out there.

@ Everyone

Quit feeding the troll. Though, of course, when you put down the @ JT, I know not to bother reading it.

@ Nightwing2000

I agree with you. Having Dr. Phil do something on video games is exactly like Fred Phelps (or any of his cult/clan) doing something on homosexuality. Or Sweden. Or America for that matter.

By the way, since Dennis McCauley has proven once again, by this thread, his Jack Thompson obsession, please note that big trouble is on the way for Take-Two re BioShock. Hooah!

@Ias
las Says:

August 15th, 2007 at 10:30 am
I’d go as far as calling JT a Nazi, but calling everyone who disagrees with them Nazis is now the trademark of JT, the Republican party and the rest of those right-wing racists out there.


I'm a republican, and there's a lot less racism in the republican party than the democrat party, so get some facts before you come with that weak ass bullshit.

One example? Affirmative Action.

As for Jack Thompson, I fear he suffers from Paranoia (and probably schizophrenia) coupled with an extremely large egocentric ideal.

@ Deja Q

You mean you don't like House?

@Jabrwock

In my opinion you CAN'T be addicted to a video game. The people that "are"... are just using them to escape their lives. Which for one reason or another they aren't happy with. My brother was "addicted" and by that I mean he wasn't. It's not a physical need he could stop playing it at a moments notice which he did many a time to do things with the family. This was just after he lost his job. He has since found a new job and is doing just fine. (just in case you were wondering)

I'd be willing to bet money on it that this girl isn't addicted but hiding from her life for some reason. She needs a therapist to find the cause of these symptoms not to be paraded on stage for "Help" from Dr. Phil.

@Ias

Your funny, cause you dont realize that both the rep and the dems are basically the same entity, no matter how much you try to deny it.

Both of them spew the most racist nazistic garbage.

Of course those that do are more on the extreme ends of things, like the Muslim extremists. Hell, if there wasn't laws against it, i bet you some of the conservatives and liberals would be doing the exact same thing right now.


This is why i don't like politics, too much of the he says she says bullshit. And in the end it doesn't matter who is in office, cause if its Reps or Dems, they are still going to mess it up. Cause the last two presidents were a 'warmonger' and a 'rapist'.



@James

Well from my view point, People use everything to escape from their lives.
People play sports, go riding and a number of things to 'feel great' cause reality sucks. It really truly does. There is a handful of people that it doesn't suck too much for, but those people are really limited.

It sucks cause no matter what is is that you do, want to do, or even are, there is going to be someone trying to tear you down.

So humans try to escape. They want to be on top of the world, their fifteen minutes of fame. A person playing something like basketball probably isn't thinking about his late car payments, the constant political struggles, the war or anything. For that moment of his playing, It is just the game of basketball and him.

This has been bugging me for a while, and reading some of Jack Thompson's latest rants, I come to discover a simple fact.

He isn't a real Christian. He isn't a real Republican. He isn't a decent man, nor a good Lawyer.

All these titles are things he wields at people like they were facts, in a "I'm a lawyer christian republican, so I can be trusted on moral issues" manner. He doesn't actually do any of the things that come with these titles, nor probably believe in any of them; he just wields them like they give him power and make him someone we should all listen to. He wields the titles like the title of Rhode Scholar.

He's not a Christian. Christianity teaches that you should be truthful, and treat others as you would want to be; not to pass judgment on people who you have no knowledge of. REAL Christianity teaches you to have an open mind, and to fight only when need be to free oppressed or keep the meek safe.

He's not a Republican; one of the big things the Republican party stands for is the idea that we need LESS government, not more. We don't want parents to have to answer to agencies; we want them to be able to do whatever they want (within reason) and for the federal and state government to let it be. The Republican party is about taking personal responsibility in your own life, not needing the government to give you things and tell you every little thing to do.

So what can we say of Thompson? He is a liar.

And if Dr. Phil puts him on there, it'll just prove that Dr. Phil was never really about helping anyone, but about sensationalizing everything for ratings.

@Austin

That is one of the smartest posts I've seen on GP yet

@Austin

Seconded.

A good example of that would be the whole Fantasy sports thing. I have no idea how it works, but apparently it demands an insane amount of knowledge from every nook and cranny of the league, to know the statistics and conditions nearly every player inside and out, and yet it's become widely popular. And that's just the tip of the iceberg for sports 'addictions' sometimes.

And it can be applied to nearly any sort of hobby. Cars and the like, porn, skateboarding and the like, TV, movies, music, games, pet shows and the like, books, hunting & fishing, the list goes on. All this i thought of from the hobbies of a good amount of my family members, young and old. Apparently, in republican eyes, people who have hobbies are nothing but addicts.

@lightwarrior

just to clarify it's being taped on thursday, it won't air on thursday. When it airs, we don't know.

@ Gamer Dad

Send Dennis a personal note with what was said. He may have just not had the time to read your comments before all commetns were deleted.

@James Hitchcock

"In my opinion you CAN’T be addicted to a video game. The people that “are”… are just using them to escape their lives. Which for one reason or another they aren’t happy with."

That's why I was commenting that Phil won't get to the REAL root of the "addiction", namely the underlying events that drive this person to seek a fulfilling of a particular need by MMORPG'ing. Or if he does, he'll just tell the person to "snap out of it", without bothering to help the person find some other way to fulfill those needs.

@Gamerdad:

Ahhh, but you don't throw an internet-wide temper tantrum every time you're not mentioned :P

It's obvious Dr. Phil only called Jack to try and get him in for psychoanalysis. He's a part of the vast conspiracy along with Penny Arcade and the Florida Bar.


/sarcasm

The current list of upcoming shows:

http://www.drphil.com/plugger/

Is he doing it as part of his regular show or a special?

Oh, look, a message board!

:: Rubs hands together and puts on an evil grin. ::

I can't wait til tonight. :D

Hey, I can daydream, can't I?

Nightwng2000
NW2K Software

Damn, I missed Jack's second comment there :P Hey Dennis, I think he likes you, it's like a schoolyard crush XD Isn't that just precious? I jest, of course, heh.

@Benji

Yeah, that could be true (that the viewers are already somewhat anti-game), but still, it doesn't help very much all the same. *shrugs* Riles them up, basically, even though it's better when they're not. At least that's how I see it.

Dennis, just think of yourself as a referee. No matter what call you make, someone will always be annoyed and happily tell you everything you did wrong. Even though you don't spend the entire game telling them how they're playing wrong. For example, Jack's ramblings are out of sync. Before people really voiced their doubts about him receiving the call he claimed his records, which none of us can confirm by the way, prove he was called. Then he claimed you were obsessed. In reality these posts should of swapped position. Sloppy mindless antagonism, Mr. Thompson. Al Sharpton would be disappointed in you.

@Jack Thompson, Attorney

Jack, this si the first article and thread solely about you in over a week, and the only reason others become about you is because you hijack them.

Also, Bioshock isn't from Rockstar, I thought it didn't interest you.

Come ot think of it, why have you never complained about Leisure Suit Larry Magna Cum Laude, or God of War, or Gears of War, or Doom 3?
All od those fit your "marketing porn and violence directly to kids" criteria, why have you never mentioned those, hmm?

"Come ot think of it, why have you never complained about Leisure Suit Larry Magna Cum Laude, or God of War, or Gears of War, or Doom 3?
All od those fit your “marketing porn and violence directly to kids” criteria, why have you never mentioned those, hmm? "

Same with the music, how come you only went after rap? I keep hearing country songs talking about sex and violence among other things, and (as much as I love my music) "death" metal, the "kill your mom music" or what about rock (which I love so much). This shows you are like almost every other person and only singling out the things you hate the most and not all that apply.

yes and my cell phone records prove that my two closest friends are db cooper and jimmy hoffa

@ashton

the universe will not implode a fake doctor and a fake lawyer being in the same place happens everyday in american court rooms

So now you are saying bioshock is made by take two you are a idiot. do some fucking reaserch.

@gp

first of all, how many times do we have to tell you jacky boy wants to be your new bf lol

@gamerdad

yeah you should email gp im sure hed be glad to give you some coverage

Uh. guys.. You might want to look at who owns 2K games before you go after him for not knowing who makes Bioshock. Sad that he knows this and you guys don't.

From the 2K website : "2K Games is headquartered in Manhattan and is a wholly owned subsidiary of Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc"

Oh, man I have to pick up extra copies of BioShock seeing as it will be banned soon- just like Bully... BTW, Jack I am still waiting for the epidemic of slingshot injuries that Bully was supposed to cause.

Also, could you please provide a list of instances in which Bioshock is marketed to children?

Pen Gun..doesn't matter who created it. It's who gave them money to do so. That would be Take 2.

Shoehorn O'Plenty,

If I had to guess, Thompson will probably label Bioshock as a game that rewards you for murdering and mutilating children.

Bioshock is published by 2K Games which is owned by Take-Two.


Andrew Eisen

I second (Third, fourth WTF-ever) GamerDad's sentiments. But I also think GP was busy trying to rescue comments yesterday and prolly missed yours.

I like to see GamerDad get press in any form, becasue unlike JT & Co, he actually helps parents.

sorry

Pen Gun..without backing (money) to give to the developers of the game then there is no game. That would be akin to me having an awesome idea for a game but it never gets made because I can't afford it. Without the producer there is no way, unless self funded a game gets made and marketed.

I retract my reccomendation for the man to have a heart attack. Its not near painful enough. Instead, please develope Lou Gehrig's disease. That is all.

Hm, though reading further apparently Take-Two has acquired Irrational Games. Though Jack may still have to deal with Irrational Games itself and not its parent company.

my guess is he will try and drag t2 in as a "deep pocket"

on the bioshock site at the bottom

All original material © TTLG 2004 - 2007
"BioShock" and associated content remains property of Irrational Games & Take 2 Interactive.
All other material remains property of their respective owners.

so he can pull t2 into court over this but good luck getting beyond that

i dont know but if you go to the bioshockwebsite and scroll all the way to the bottom its there in black and green ( get instead of black and white cause their text is umm yeah i thought it was funny)

Bioshock is made by 2k games who are entirely owned by Take Two.

I dont see how it could be a problem for T2 though, theres nothing particularly controversial in there. I can only imagine that this will be about the "Little Sister" characters - genetically modified children who gather "ADAM" throughout the game (I gather this will be used as health or currency or something). The player will have the choice to attack them to get hold of the stuff.

yea the little sisters are used for harvisting and of course you know your going to hear from jack and the moron anti gamers that the game "teaches you to murder children"

Bioshock, huh?

Is that because of the whole angle with the Little Sisters or just because it's put out by Take Two? Sorry, but you've been so full of empty threats before Jack that I'll believe it when I see it.

By the way Jack, did you know about the new Japanese Role Playing Game called Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3? Like your favorite game Bully, it's set in a high school and you control a group of students (albeit in a Japanese school) as they attend classes and later go out at night for combat.

Not only do they summon and control demons - which I'm sure you will automatically find objectionable - but they summon them by SHOOTING THEMSELVES IN THE HEAD!!!

I would have thought you would have heard about this game a few months ago and jumped on this immediately considering how much you frequent this and other gaming websites. Or have you been so fixated on Take 2 and Rockstar that it just slipped under your radar? if you really were sincere about your crusade, I'd think you'd be paying attention to more than just one company. As it is, it's out now, so it's too late for you to do anything about it. And I'm picking up my reserved copy today in fact.

Guy, let's face it: we like Jack here because he provides us with much-needed comedy. To paraphrase Joe Pesci in Goodfellas, he's become a clown for our amusement. Tom Buscaglia said it all when he said, "he's like an organ grinder's monkey...without the organ grinder."

Son in that spirit Jack, "Dance, monkey! Dance!" :D

Big deal about Dr Phil, though. Back in the day (mid 80's, I think), a woman named Ronnie Lamm went on the Donahue Show to talk about how videogames would be the downfall of civilization. Look where we are now.

Meh, at this point anything that will be done in games already has been done by the movie industry (a industry with even less restrictions than the gaming industry). Thus ultimately attempting to hold games to a different standard will ultimately fail.

Though it would be humorous to hear Jack say, "Movies are only for children! I'm sick of Hollywood advertising the Saw trilogy to children!" Because finally the rest of the world would know him to be the joke that we already do.

@darkknight1212

doesnt matter t2 is now a partner and can legally be pulled into the suit

Slow new day huh...

@ Gamerdad

I must have glazed over that. But it would be nice for Dennis to write an article about people who have been approached and those that will be on the show and why. I think that your story is very news worthy on the line that you were not accepted because you would not work with the theme.

i agree with zach knight (hope you dont mind me shortening your name)

i would like to see a article about gamerdads rejection by them

@GamerDad

When I first read about this dr. Phil stuff, I was wandering if you were going to be on it as well. It good to know some one level-headed is going to be on (no pun, intended but you do have gamer in your name :P ).

still, since Take2 is simply the parent company of Irrational Games, blaming Take2 for Bioshock is akin to blaming Adam for Cain killing Abel.

If i had any respect left for Dr Phil its gone now.

@Jack Thomson

Jack, its no secret that i dont like your antics (i have said this quite often), but i would like to hear what you have against Bioshock in particular? I mean, its a sci-fi shooter and all, but can we have some kind of teaser?

Side note: As i recall it, you were the one who kept coming back after being banned several times. Even though you are not mentally healthy you remain a prominent figure in the news, so it is really no wonder he keeps reporting on your actions. Besides, you released this story to him.

"Of course, Dr. Phil was spot-on after V-Tech…"
That's why they didn't find any games in his room....right?

"“Of course, Dr. Phil was spot-on after V-Tech…”
That’s why they didn’t find any games in his room….right?"


Dr. Phil and Jack Thompson don't need evidence to back up what they "know". Hence truthiness.

ok sorry about the whole take 2 tk rant but why did he not attack the darkness that was publihsed buy take 2 and besides that was much more violent.

yeah true but your girlfriends brains blown all over a wall and then you shoot your self. plus you rip hearts out of people and eat them. so i still think the darkness i worse. no offense.

Isn't there a ruling from the Florida Bar comming out next month ?

We'll see if Jack Thompson remains "Attorney: and you are not"

Great, this is what we need, two people who know next to nothing about video games talking about how evil they are. Maybe the next week Dr. Phil could do a show about gay rights with Fred Phelps... he has about the same credibility level as Thompson.

Regarding whether or not JT should be allowed to post here; why not? If he can play by the rules he should be allowed to voice his opinions, no matter how off the wall they may be. It's a laugh at any rate.

so true but then why did he not attack gears of war if he is only baseing his campaign on how popular a game is.

I wonder if jack is buddies with tom cruise. I figure bat shit insane people must run in similar circles.

And oh look hes yapping at take-two again. Jack thompson, part slime, part yorkshire terrier.

"but Hal was told that Dr. Phil had lined up a “game violence specialist.”"

Dr. Phil don't know Jack...


Seriously, all bad puns aside, Dr. Phil is an idiot. Who cares?

He probably stays away from Gears of War because Microsoft is the publisher and would fucking own Jack in court. In fact I think his heart would give out if he were put in that situation.

But you do bring up a good point: Gears of War is really violent, it has bodies exploding, heads exploding, tons os guts and blood, the ability to chainsaw people in half, etc. Why does he not protect the children from Gears?

I play Gears on Xbox ive every night, and there are a shitload of kids playing, and by the sounds of their voices, they aren't 17.

John Bruce does not care about the real issue. He has a personal vendetta against video games, TT, and anyone who disagrees with him.

Violence in video games does not take centre stage like it does in movies. In video games, violence can be a way to get from point A to point B. It is not the focus, but rather the means to advance. The focus in on winning, not on killing. Killing just happens to be the best way to keep scary alien freaks down.

Attacking video games is so redundant at this point, and old fossils like Jack are the last of a dying breed. I just wish they would fuck off and let adults enjoy whatever game it happens to be that they want to play. As for keeping kids away from content that could potentially harm them? That is the job of the parents. Being a parent isn't just fucking and havng a kid. It involves raising a well-developed individual who knows the difference between something on a TV screen and real life; knowing the difference between entertainment and reality.

I know I grew up watching Bugs Bunny, and no matter how many times Elmer Fud fired his shotgun at a poor rabbit, I was not programmed to kill animals. If anything, viewing those images at a young age helped me distinguise between what is acceptable in real life, and what should be left on the tv screen.

The sad thing is that I am sure all of us have at one time or another been emotionally touched by a video game, and if people like John Bruce would stop for a second and actually try to understand what it is they hate, then they might have a similar experience and realize what a waste their hate has been, and how misguided their path truly is.

Andrew Stirling, Canadian and you're not!

"On 2007-04-19, Thompson and Take-Two settled their suit, with Thompson agreeing not to restrict sales through any court worldwide of Take-Two's games, threaten to sue the company, or accuse Take-Two of any wrongdoing based on the sale of any of its games. According to one analyst, the settlement is likely to mute his public pronouncements and lawsuits against the company"

Do you actually expect John Boy to follow this? Hopefully GP has some way of proving beyond a doubt that JT's comments are really his.

I see Doc Phill is going down the time tested path of talk showdom by taking the low road,so when we will see him bring in Jerry springer as a co host.....

Its sad to see Phill stoop to the level of ambulance chaser,maybe hes just trying to bring JT on for show and argue against JT's line fo thought but frankly.....I don't see it happening...

They should also bring that guy from nilf, jerry springer and a number of gamers.

In the end, Jack and the nilf guy get into a fight while jerry dodges blows and trys to break them up and the gamers just sit around laughing at two grown men fighting like elementray girls.

@Benji

Child villians...

The Red Queen - Resisident evil
The Omen
The Ring
The Grudge

And a few other villians appear in things such as Cowboy bebop, Blood+, and so many other things.

Mostly it comes from Japanese culture. Cause nothing in this world is more cruel and evil then a child at play.

@Benji, 'Attorney'

Perfect example is Prey, and the ghost children.

"Did anyone else notice that he hasn’t done anything about Prey, even though it DOES have REGULAR children being killed? Oh, that’s right, it’s not from Take-two."

You see a child be impaled on a metal spike, you see an entire school bus of kids that was abducted and it's passengers mutilate,d yeah, Jack is out to protect kids alright.

well hjesus tell me this why did not go after the darkness it was published by take 2 and is woers than both gta and gears combined.

and alma from fear.

Void42

true Jerry dosent pick sides :P

One thing that irks me. We support Take-Two and I am going to continue to do so. But I don't feel any support reciprocated. I think that secretly they love Jack, he is their best marketing tool around. Any game he raises a fuss about seems to do quite well. So what reason would Take-Two have for getting rid of their little cash cow? I feel they could get Jack off our backs if they wanted to and finally end his sick little crusade. But instead they will just let him make noise and hang us out to dry.

ok sorry for the bad spelling

@Jccalhoun
In all fairness, the other day I was out wandering and found an underground passage filled with russian troops, some weird invisible bloodsucking thing, random bandits, and Ak 74s like you never seen. Obviously, I did what needed to be done.

Maybe JT should get off our backs and exterminate/prosecute those weird bloodsucking things. They reminded me of Zoidberg, if Zoidberg was a few feet taller trying to suck my blood out my neck!

@Jack Thompson, Attorney:

Didn't your settlement with Take-Two specifically state you were to leave them alone? If I know the Florida Bar, that's one hell of an ethics violation.

Pah! If Take Two tries to fight back, John Bruce will just use the "Fred Sanford Motion" again.

Nightwng2000
NW2K Software

wait that was settled out of court wasnt it ? so there would be no public record damn

"I swear, some of you only took a glance at this, and immediately assumed that JT’s going to be in the show, when the opposite is actually true."


Actually I, as I'm sure many people here, were angry that Dr. Phil would consider having Jack as a guest, not so much actually being a guest.

@ Jack Thompson

Jack Thompson, What the hell do you think your gonna do. Have you forgotten yet that BULLY fiasco. I don't see how since your still Facing a Bar Complaint for it yes?

Don't make empty threats. All you'd accomplish by attacking bioshock is likely MORE Bar complaints.

Give it up idiot! You failed, move on.

"By the way, since Dennis McCauley has proven once again, by this thread, his Jack Thompson obsession, please note that big trouble is on the way for Take-Two re BioShock. Hooah!"

Um...what? How will Take Two be in trouble for a game they have no investment in? This is a 2k company product, not a TT product Jackie boy. You honestly think your views are listened to? They're not, as far as I am concerned, they're the ramblings of a 50 something year old Rouge Lawyer that should have been disbarred years ago. I honestly hope that you're removed and forbidden from ever practicing law in any state ever again. You're a black spot upon the American Justice System.

Your ramblings have caused a lot of grief, and something still springs fresh in my mind. And that's a little situation that involved a gamer committing suicide. The body wasn't even cold yet and you were already bashing the subject and screaming that he killed himself over video games, when in fact it was real world problems brought on by work and relationships. Nothing to do with games.

Then, THEN there are the constant attacks against the training methods used by our military. I'm sorry if you don't like the fact our soldiers are trained to kill, but I'd much rather know they can do their job. As George Patton once said, "It is not the duty of an American soldier to die for his country, it's to make the other poor bastard to die for his." This sir, is a basic fact of the military. They're soldiers, they're supposed to protect the citizens of the United States, and their liberties. The very liberties you sir are using to deny others their rights and freedoms as citizens of this country.

That's all I have to say. Hope you one day open your eyes and ears and realize how much of a hypocrite you are.

jack better tread carefully with bioshock or he could find himself in court

Also the quote is;
No one ever won a war by dying for their country; you win by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his.

Or is he refering to http://hoo-ha-monologues.blogspot.com/

Its all so confusing.

And being in the military... usually when people say hooah its because something is bad. At least in my shop.

@Picho
Hooah originally meant 2 things; heard, understood, acknowledged, and Head Up your Ass.

@J.A.

That doesn't work, if we ignore him, then he'll be the only one thats heard. As much as I'd like to ignore Jack Thompson, it won't work.

@ Brandon

Exactly. It's a lose-lose situation. If we respond to him, he thinks he's won. If we ignore him, he thinks he's won.

What's a bunch of intelligent people to do?

Looks like Jackass and Phil join forces againest videogames.............only to get owned by Master Chief.

i never liked dr. phil, since he's a quack, but him and JT together sounds like about as evil as we can get...

thompson, the day you actually pull off something successful against bioshock will be the day everyone who reads this site gets on their knees and kisses your ass. and i think we all know the chances of that ever happening.

@diceman: Midboss from Disgaea might also work - extremely full of himself and thinks he's incredibly awesome, but everyone else thinks he's silly and makes up bad nicknames for him. I could also see him as Ultros from FF6, or maybe Seifer from FF8.
A million internet points to GP if you collect nominations and hold a GP poll on what VG villain JT most represents. Yes, I'm in favor of less JT coverage here, even though I see the logic behind it, and yes, it's more attention than he perhaps deserves, but I think the scientific value of such a study cannot be ignored.

Wait a minute...

People still watch Dr. Phil?

Personally, I don't think the person posting as "Jack Thompson, Attorney" is really Jack. I've seen my fair share of phony Jack posts, and this just seems completely unlikely. Dennis, if it is him, you can add that name to the one-hundred plus names he's gone by on Game Politics so far.

Jack, if that's really you, I think you need to take a visit to this website. I hear they have top notch services, and you look like you could use a good cranial spelunking.

http://www.ashburnpsych.com/

I wouldn't doubt that Dr. Phil contacted "violent game specialist" Jack Thompson on the show, it just goes to show that idiots and sensationalists think alike.

What a fag, I swear, game violence specilist.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!AHWW IT HURTS TO LAUGH!!!
this really made my morning, the only specialists are the gamers themselves, we know what it is like, they don't that simple

it's like taking some doctor from china and saying he is a american football specialist. HAHAHAHAHAHA

@Benji

No no no no!
Midboss would not work for him. If you get though the game, you'll find out why.

@DavCube:

Mock him, enjoy it, move on? I mean really, when we're damned if we do and if we don't, we may as well do whichever one is least damaging or most amusing.

@eville1

Corporations are so big, you don't even know who you're working for. That's terror. Terror built into the system.

[...] Lawyer and fervent anti video game activist, Jack Thompson is back in the news, per a post he made at Game Politics. In the post, Thompson said: [...]

[...] August 16, 2007 @ 11:07 pm } · { Jack Thompson, Violent, bioshock, Gaming, violence, games, News, Uncategorized } Mr.Thompson’s crusade against violent video games continues, as he sets his sights on 2K Games’ “BioShock.” Things have been remarkably quiet on the Jack Thompson front recently; hell, what with GTA IV held back until next year and Manhunt 2 currently trying to appeal its unrated classification from the BBFC, you’d think he’d be sitting back, sipping on some margaritas and psyching himself up for a new year chock full of violent digital atrocities to campaign against. But no, it seems that Thompson’s crusade knows no rest – the lawyer recently revealed in a comment on an unrelated topic on Game Politics that his sights are now set on BioShock. [...]

[...] But never let the truth get in the way of a good story. Jack Thompson no doubt believes there is a case here, as he says in a comments post on Game Politics: Please note that big trouble is on the way for Take-Two re BioShock. Hooah! That bitch killed someone, so she deserves the right punishment, surely? [...]

Jack, you're a blight on our profession and your very real vitriol and rancor is far worse than the simulated and fantasized violence inherent in the gaming industry's products. Your personal crusades are tiresome and evidence of your own personal insecurities, and I steadfastly hope that your maniacal ranting continues to fall on deaf ears.

Go get some more face time on FOX News or shoot the bull with Dr. Phil. Neither outlet has any credibility, but if they scratch your publicity itch, then by God have a blast. Be sure to issue some more self-aggrandizing "press releases" while you're at it.

What about laws punishing the parents that let their children play violent videogames? Why punish artists? Shouldn't those who are contributing to violence and delinquency by making certain games available to children (like WALMART) be held responsible? Rockstar makes games for adults, such as myself and all of my friends who play violent games. And none of us have ever even been arrested.

And I started playing violent videogames when I was 6, killing Ganon in the Legend of Zelda.

Here's a thought: Jack Thompson, deal with one of the truly tragic things happening in the world. Darfur, starvation in Africa, the Asian slave-trade, corporations in South America arresting people for collecting rain water, people polluting our air.

Seriously, all the shit happening in the world, and this idiot thinks videogames are somehow the most important issue to address. Right, and we should ban all books that describe violence, too. Oh, and the Iraq War, because that's REALLY violent.

I didn't know anyone watched or cared about my show. That's it! Video games on every show now!!!

I think all fake Jack Thompsons should be banned by IP or for that matter anyone who impersonates another regular poster here. Its not funny or illuminating...

And dont take me wrong: im not defending him in any way.

@GP I'm surprised you're letting the fake JT posts stand, especially the one a few posts back. It starts with: "Disregard what I said..."

It undermines everyone's efforts to have a relevant discussion.

Okay, let me settle this. The post that says:

"By the way, since Dennis McCauley has proven once again, by this thread, his Jack Thompson obsession, please note that big trouble is on the way for Take-Two re BioShock. Hooah! "

...is verified (by me) as Thompson's IP address.

http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/15/dr-phil-invited-me-says-jack-thompson...

nah, if I'd seen the fakes, I'd have zapped them. I let "Dr. Phil" stand, since it's obvious that's not really Dr. Phil. With Thompson posting here, fakes are clearly more of a problem.

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How do we know if this "Jack Thompson, Attorney" is the real Jack Thompson at all? Because this one article cited a quote from one of these comments, but right now, all I had to do was copy-paste the name. For all we know, the below "Jack Thompson" quotes could be from some 9-year old.

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