Defense Department Kills Plan to Send Left Behind to Troops in Iraq

Whether you’re a fan of the best-selling Left Behind series or not, a plan to ship the PC game version to American troops fighting in a Muslim country was never a good idea.

That’s mainly because a key element of the game play in Left Behind: Eternal Forces features Christian troops converting – or killing – non-believers.

The Department of Defense has now put a stop to the shipments, following an inquiry by ABC News. According to the ABC report, Operation Start Up (OSU) Tour, an evangelical Christian entertainment troupe, planned to include copies of Left Behind in care packages destined for U.S. forces.

Rev. Timothy Simpson of the Christians Alliance for Progress told ABC News:

It’s a horrible game. You either kill or covert the other side. This is exactly what the Osama bin Ladens of the world have portrayed us [as].

Left Behind Games CEO Troy Lyndon said:

There is no forcible conversion to Christianity, and killing is never an objective in any of the 40 missions in the game.

Researchers at the Military Religious Freedom Foundation learned of the plan to ship Left Behind to Iraq last week. Their discovery was reported by The Nation.

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    Pandralisk says:

    Thoughts on the game:

    This game is a great example of true Christian values at work. Left Behind depicts what really lies at the historical or living heart of Christianity: subjecting the freedom of other human beings to a bonze-age form of “morality,” inspired by a genocidal and insane “God.” I’m glad the developers made this game, it shines such a true and wonderful light on the myth that is Christianity.

    Thoughts on restriction:

    If a soldier wishes to purchase and play the game on their own time and money then that is both a privledge and right that should be afforded to them.

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    Mauler ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    You can choose what you read but you can’t choose what you play? Again, this is treating game media differently than other forms of media. There is choice in video games as there is in movies and books when it comes to the consumptions of that media. If you don’t want to convert or kill someone then you don’t play the game. It is not any different than not reading the book. Banning the game for the message is absurd on any level. It just becomes harder to take that stance when you don’t agree with the message. A ban on this message isn’t any different than a ban on any message.

    If you agree with banning a message then picking which message to ban just comes down to which messages you like and how does that make you any different from any number of state legistators or other public figures?

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    Quinlyn says:


    In your post:

    You have to understand the image of US troops being sent a game were the chief activity is coverting people to Christianity while they are ina Islamic country is horribel to say the least.

    Just thought I would add my $0.02 here to this comment. Unfortunately what you are saying by this statement completely supports Jack Thompson in all of his arguments about video game violence and content being inappropriate for audiences. Jack Thompson believes that video games are “murder simulators; colombine stimulators, mental masturbation of violence…..(the list goes on)” and as such should be removed from the hands of “our children (we all really know he means everyone as he despises the games)”. He believes that the content of these games sends a bad message and promotes actual real world violence in “our children”. While his intention is good it is everyone’s belief that he is out to lunch – we know that people can distinguish between fiction and reality and consequently we argue that any game can be made/released and discussed with those playing the game.

    While you may not agree with the content of this game – and while it may seem to be very heavy in religious messages – it is still just a game. It is a work of fiction – and those playing the video game need to realize it is a video game and nothing more. It is not a message to convert to the faith or die – it is a video game based on a series of novels – while it does depict convert or die – it is in no means a reflection of the attitude of the person playing the game.

    If you support the idea of this game not being allowed to go overseas to American soldiers – then please close your mouth any time that Mr. Thompson or anyone else opens theirs about video games….

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    Miang ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ Falcon

    I do understand that. But if we want to argue that games should not be censored because of content we can’t just turn around and say this game shouldn’t be sent to this group of people because of its content. I can understand that some people are sensitive to the politics of the situation. But I have to go with the freedom of speech issue on this. If troops can take bibles, or be sent bibles, or take korans or torrahs, or be sent any of these things there is no difference in sending this game. And even if they couldn’t, if people can send the troops GTA or any other game then you can’t restrict this one based on content.

    Frankly most of the troops wouldn’t be likely to play this game if it is as bad as I have heard but if people want to send the game to them they should have the right to choose to play it or not. Are we going to go through what literature is sent to the troops and see if it has appropriate content for the political situation of the country they find themselves in? Do you suppose if they can play computer games they can watch movies on PCs as well? Are we going to go through what movies can be sent to the troops? While I personally might think there are much better things to send that is not really the issue. The issue is should these people be allowed to send this game to the troops if that is their choice. I can’t see a reason why not. After all they aren’t protesting this group sending bibles, and I would be willing to bet that if they had included the book Left Behind instead of the game Left Behind this would never be an issue. Can anyone explain to me why a book on the same topic should be treated so differently from a game?

    Now I can’t see that sending this game should be such a big deal. I heard it suggested on another forum that if the troops play this game they will want to go out and kill more Iraqis because they are Muslim. I am very relieved that I haven’t seen this argument here since in principal it isn’t that different from saying that GTA encourages people to kill cops. I don’t really believe that playing a game is going to be a primary motivation for anyone to do anything, especially our soldiers.

    What makes me sad is that so much time and effort is being sent talking about what games should be sent to our troops instead of talking about what supplies, like decent body armor, they need.

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    DarrelBT says:

    Actually, it’s more due to the fact there ARE Bibles in IRAQ. They had ENOUGH problems with Bibles, the last thing they want is a video game that further promotes that sort of thing. Because at least in the bible, you can choose what to read. In the game, converting others is pretty much the main objective and you have no other options other than killing them.

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    Mauler ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Would you object to them sending the Bible? The Bible does go on a good bit about converting people. One might even argue that it is the chief activity of the book. If sending them a book is OK then why not a game loosely based on that book? The notion that games are a special form of entertainment, that people need to be more protected from them than they would from any other form of entertainment, seems rather suspect.

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    Falcon4196 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ Miang
    You have to understand the image of US troops being sent a game were the chief activity is coverting people to Christianity while they are ina Islamic country is horribel to say the least. It doesn’t matter if the games were sent by an organizarion that isn’t part of the governt ment or milatary establishment it would still end with US troops being sent those games.
    Game content aside I’m appaled that anyone think to send sucha crappy low quality game to our troops.

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    Miang ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I don’t like the idea that this game shouldn’t be sent to the troops because of the message. The troops are adults and should be allowed to choose if they want to play the thing or not. From what I understand Left Behind was a terrible game. There are better things that you could send the troops but if a bunch of people want to waste their efforts sending the troops a terrible game let them. After all the game was being sent by a private group of individuals. It wasn’t being provided by the military or government, so there is no issue there. Not letting them send it is in a way its’ own free speech problem. If they refuse to let people send the troops a game because they don’t like the message, and games agree that is ok, how is that any different from people wanting to keep GTA out of the hands of people because they don’t like the violence? It smacks of hypocrisy.

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    Gabriel Celesta ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Oops. I forgot to capitalize the word “Behind” AND forgot to put a colon right after it. Please, Dennis, we need the ability to edit our posts!

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    Gabriel Celesta ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @Jack Thompson, loser lawyer

    Okay, so we don’t like Left behind Eternal Forces either. But still….

    “The people who made it should be sent oversees and not allowed to come back.”

    Not only was that comment a bit too much in my opinion… it also shows your spelling ability is waning. You typed “oversees” when it should’ve been “overseas.”

    If you insist on posting here in GP, at least learn not to misspell. Thank you.

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    Lex-Man ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ Andrew Eisen

    Your totally right I would be surprised to doubt Thompson and his figure. I personally would be surprised if it didn’t make a profit there is a large audience for this type of game. Wikipedia has it down as turning a two million in sales but not making the developers a profit although the link they use to prove the fact is broken so I don’t really trust that.

    Also there making a sequel so somebody is confident in the franchises gaming future.

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    Lex-Man ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ Terrible Tom

    When Jack Bruce says:

    “The people who made it should be sent overseas and not allowed to come back”

    I think he is joking, at least I hope he is.

    Also anyone who wants to know what entertainment the army has its pretty much the same as everyone else, everyone has laptops they can get DVD’s, games etc delivered pretty easily also they have internet access. Most of them work shifts and are free to do whatever they like when there shifts are over. Although at least in the UK armed forced they have home work to do for qualifications related to there jobs.

    The only people who have it different are the ones who go out on operations to seek out enemy combatant’s they keep to themselves and don’t really do entertainment, apparently it makes them lose there edge.

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    Picho, Haxing yer nets ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I just dont think they should be put though that sort of torture.

    It would be like trying to force a bunch of people to play that ET game in the days of atari.

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    Zigs says:


    Don’t forget the Gears of War controversy the army (was it army?) was involved in not too long ago. Someone would shit a brick regardless of what gets sent over. Buying the shittiest piece of uncompiled code on the market and trying to send it was just sleazy though.

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    Mauler ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Interesting that the books, which commits exactly the same sins that Thompson quit over, existed a decade before he was so bothered about the heresy and blasphemy to sever his relationship. This is more of a Captain Renault style of shock than any real outrage.

    Would anyone object to sending over Halo or some other violent game? I doubt it. Not much in the way of escapism, to be certain, but sending over a game such as this really isn’t such a big deal. They shouldn’t send it over because it wasn’t a good game. But not sending it over because of the message? I’m not a fan of that by any stretch of the imagination. You don’t get rid of bad messages by pretending that they don’t exist.

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    Austin Lewis ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Pat Tillman was a tragedy indeed, and I will make no excuse for the Generals in the DoD that let the poor Ranger’s death be attributed to a mistake of his own; he was a goliath of a man and lionhearted as any.

    All military personnel coming home from a war have a squelch order, and as for the media, there is no such thing so long as they don’t discuss troop movements.

    As for extending tours, yes, that does suck immensely, but it happens, and when you sign up you know it could.

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    Zigs says:

    @Austin Lewis

    Cause the military generals have proven themselves so effective at their jobs. Y’know when they aren’t busy resigning, accounting for massive scandals or lying about the death of a certain football player.

    The military has a squelch order toward in regards to the media right now. If you come home alive… shut the fuck up; if you come home dead, well, you aren’t really a problem anymore then.

    It would almost seem that certain elements of the military prefer the latter, extending tours and whatnot.

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    Eville1 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ Jack Thompson.
    “Jack Thompson, Attorney Says:

    August 16th, 2007 at 12:10 pm
    Tyndale House published my book re video game violence and at the same tim gave the Left Behind rights to the Troy Lyndon group.

    I severed my relationship with Tyndale House over this game, warning that a) it would not make money, and b) it was clearly contrary to the Gospel. The game lost $4.3 million, and three people were fired over it. I was right, again.

    I applaud the decision not to allow this game to be sent oversees. The people who made it should be sent oversees and not allowed to come back. The game is hurtful and it is absurd. Jack Thompson”
    Your post here illustrates the one thing I take exception to. You’ve always maintained your stance that your goal is to keep violent video games out of the hands of children. When pressed on this, or caught in a contrary position you reiterated that you were not out to ban all video games or even all violent video games. Just their sale to minors.

    My point is this..Who cares how violent this game is? Really? It’s being sent to people in the ARMY. Last time I checked you had to be a legal adult to join the military. So, in conclusion..Why should we care what you think about this particular situation when it in no way applies to your legal crusade in video games? The answer is simple. (And if you give a different one then you really are a liar) Your legal crusade against video games has no basis with children. You have an agenda against certain companies and attempt to cover it up by dabbling in other areas. Your antics fool no one; you’re less and less of an issue in any arena; political, public, legal or otherwise with each damning post, email and rant you spew.

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    Mr.Pat says:

    “The people who made it should be sent oversees and not allowed to come back. The game is hurtful and it is absurd.”

    Funny, Jack, I feel the exact same way about you.

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    Austin Lewis ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    oh wow. 500 in one attack, the first of its kind in 3 weeks.

    But lets have the people with no military knowledge whatsoever talk shit about a place they’ve only heard about.

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    Zigs says:

    @Austin Lewis

    Cause 500+ dead in a bombing is a sign of improvement. After all, there’s only so many of them to kill.*

    *The thesis behind the surge

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    Austin Lewis ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    Do you even know what depleted uranium is used in?

    Goddamn, you say some stupid shit.

    As for PTSD, its a condition of the weak minded who can’t come to terms with the fact that if you didn’t shoot him, he would’ve shot you.

    @Zigs and Adaptor

    The Brookings institute, an institute that has done its best for years to say this war was going nowhere, has changed their tune recently, as has the media. Will we be leaving soon? No. Are we making progress? yes.

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    Zigs says:


    Well, that is a valid point. There is a certain level of deception to any job, and short of independent research on the part of the individual there really is no way to prepare for it.

    Things are different now than they were in 2003, however. People are still enlisting, going in more or less blind. There is an exceptional amount of research into the conflict that wasn’t available when Bush first declared his hostile intentions toward Iraq. There’s no consensus, but several believe the military will never be able to resolve the conflict as it stands today. Some are declaring ‘the surge’ a failure.

    No matter anyone’s opinion, the situation is bleak. Why people would still be throwing themselves into that fire is pretty much beyond me.

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    Terrible Tom ( User Karma: -1 ) says:

    Yes the game is in bad taste but should re deny people the creative freedom to make things such as this? Thats just basically where I’m coming from.

    Is this the perfect game to send to the troops? Absolutely not, especially considering the extreme cultural and religious tension that is present.

    Should we perhaps choose a different game to send them? Absolutely. I honestly think we should send more than one kind of game. I don’t think its a marvelous idea to only send one kind of game, especially if in this situation but I’m not going to agree with trying to prohibit it. Just because I don’t agree with it doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be able to do so.

    But then again this is coming from a man who wants to return all military home yesterday.

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    Zigs says:


    They chose their fate. On a lot of bullshit information sure, but they still chose their fate. If you are over 18, you are legally responsible for yourself, even if you can’t figure out why you should stay out of the sand trap.

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    Adaptor ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Halo 3 in Iraq, special edition Zune’s for the soldiers in Iraq, Left Behind for Iraq…

    I know war is great business for weapon manufacaturers and private contractors. Now it seems as if the soldiers themselves are becoming a marketing-instrument.

    It’s sick! I thought war was fighting for something you would give your live for. As it is now, 18 year old kids get talked into joining an, in my opinion, useless conflict, dying from depleted uranium radiation, showering with contaminated water because Haliburton thinks clean water is waste of money, waiting hours in line to get a meal untill they get killed or, if they’re “lucky” come home with PTSD with almost no hope of support from the people they work for.

    But at least Left Behing got mentioned on a blog and they were shown on TV holding a Zune. I feel really sorry for these guys. Used as pawns in so many ways.

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    Sidewinder says:

    If these games were shipped it would do WONDERFUL things for West-Muslim relations, don’t you think? Could have turned into something kinda like those drawings of Mohammad. Although not on the same scale.

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    Black Manta ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I severed my relationship with Tyndale House over this game, warning that a) it would not make money, and b) it was clearly contrary to the Gospel.

    Considering Jack himself doesn’t seem to follow the Gospel despite his assertions, I find this statement hilarious.

    The people who made it should be sent oversees and not allowed to come back.

    Too bad we can’t do the same to Jack. :p

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    GamePolitics ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    regarding the execs who were “left behind”… LOL

    Apr 30, 2007 — In an effort to make significant senior management changes, Left Behind Games Inc. has accepted the resignation of Senior Vice President, David J. Klein and has discontinued employment of President, Jeffrey S. Frichner. Furthermore, CEO Troy Lyndon on Friday asked for the resignation of the company’s other three board members.

    Michael A. Knox and Leslie N. Bocskor have both agreed to serve as interim Co-chairs of the Board of Directors to help recast the company’s vision to capitalize on the enormous untapped market found within faith-based, inspirational and family values entertainment media and games. “Upon ratification of the board or the company’s shareholders, this appointment of interim Co-chairs will take affect,” said CEO Troy Lyndon. “Both Knox and Bocskor have media entertainment and public company management experience that we desperately need.”

    “I am delighted to have the potential opportunity to work with Troy Lyndon again, as our last experience together resulted in numerous successes,” said Mr. Knox. Michael A. Knox was a former partner with CEO Troy Lyndon for five years while they built Park Place Productions from an initial investment of $3,000 into North America’s largest independent video game development company. Mr. Knox is currently the CEO of V2P Communications, one of the world leaders in the new Internet audio advertising industry.

    “I am excited about the company’s future as it extends its presence as a leader in the family values, faith-based and inspirational media and entertainment marketplace,” said Mr. Leslie Bocskor. Leslie N. Bocskor is an entrepreneur and managing partner with Lennox Hill Partners LLC, a New York-based advisory firm and the co-founder of two arts & culture philanthropic organizations as well as numerous computer software, entertainment and technology companies.

    Mr. Lyndon was the original developer of the first 3D John Madden Football game for Electronic Arts, which has gone on to become a billion-dollar franchise. Furthermore, Mr. Lyndon and Mr. Knox both were awarded Inc. Magazine’s Entrepreneur of the Year award in 1993 from Ernst & Young and Merrill Lynch.

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    Quad9damage says:

    During the initial controversy over this game, Left Behind Games spammed several blogs (including mine) with a long statement claiming that there a lot of ‘lies and half-truths’ surrounding Left Behind: Eternal Forces. It said, in part:

    “Pacifist Christians and other groups are taking the game material out of context to support their own causes. There is NO “killing in the name of God” and NO “convert or die”. There are NO “negative portrayals of Muslims” and there are NO “points for killing”.”

    It included a link to a demo and ended by saying that the game has positively changed the lives of young people. Pph, whatever. I never downloaded the demo. My time is occupied with other things and I could care less.

    What I’m wondering, though, is why they felt the need to defend themselves in such a manner. I’ve never seen any other game company do this. I guess they’re so small and hurting for sales that words from strangers on the internet are powerful enough to help or break them.

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    GamePolitics ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I believe they did a business reorg early this year, perhaps March-April and let go one of the main execs.

    It was over money, not the game content. How in the world could they have been surprised at the game’s content? It’s based on the book series, which is Left Behind Games’ sole reason for existence.

    This story has been kicking around the non-gaming blogosphere for a few days. Someone there mentioned the execs getting fired and apparently added 2+2=5. JT thus picked it up from erroneous reports.

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    Andrew Eisen ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    My thoughts:

    I think if we’re going to ship a game to the troops we should ship a better game. I see where the “poor taste” argument comes from but the game’s content doesn’t bother me. It’s just a game after all.

    Would anyone raise a fuss if someone sent copies of the books? They’re far more gratuitously and explicitly violent than the game could ever hope to be. (They’re still entertaining reads though, with the exception of the last book in the series.)

    Send ’em Gears of War, Katamari Damacy, or Super Mario Strikers.

    Andrew Eisen

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    Andrew Eisen ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    “[Left Behind: Eternal Forces] lost $4.3 million, and three people were fired over it.” –Thompson

    Is that true?

    The money bit I don’t doubt though I’ve no idea where Thompson got that number. Was anyone fired over the game? Honestly, I don’t know. I’ve looked around a bit online but haven’t been able to confirm it as fact. Maybe if Thompson would be so kind as to support his claims with links to the appropriate news articles or press releases…

    Here’s what I do know:

    According to critics, Left Behind just isn’t that great of a game.

    According to Left Behind Games, Eternal Forces sold 65,000 copies in its first 6 weeks.

    Analyst Michael Pachter predicted sales of 200,000 and a forthcoming sequel.

    A sequel is planned for July ’08.

    Left Behind Games stocks spiked when the game came out and have been low ever since.

    Andrew Eisen

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    Wolf ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    “There is no forcible conversion to Christianity, and killing is never an objective in any of the 40 missions in the game.”

    No, not at all. Your bullet just happened to slip out of your gun and into a person’s chest. Just as I happened to fall with my sword behind you, and it just happened to pierce your spinal area, and you just happen to not be Christian. And this happens, over, and over, and over again throughout the game.

    I guess your character is just veeery accident prone, eh?

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    darkknight1212 says:

    Shoehorn brought up the same point I was going to. The books were not about a convert or die mission. The small band of believers were basically on the run most of the time or in disguise trying to set certain events into motion. I do remember a few of the main Christian characters being forced to kill a person here and there, but they always seemed remorseful after the fact. I think this game is the result of a phenomenon I noticed about the time book 7 came out, they are seriously milking this cash cow for all it’s worth. The series easily could have been condensed to 6 books, instead they dragged it out to 12 for the core series, 3 prequels, and a sequel, plus a few movies. This game losing the message of the original series was bound to happen as the books became a multimedia project instead of a series of novels. The Christ Clone Trilogy was a much better series dealing in the same material for anyone that cares.

    I also think games like this send the wrong message of christianity to non-christians. I have talked to several people of various beliefs on religious/faith based questions (always fun as long as no one takes things personally) and it’s amazing how often examples like this game are brought up as proof of “See what the Christians are like”.

    In conclusion it is a horrible game for various reasons. Please send the troops something fun, like Shadow of the Colossus, that way if they run into one in Iraq they already are “trained” to look for the glowing weak point and kill it.

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    cullarn ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    honestly lets send the soldiers something like wow accounts something they can enjoy

    for the love of god they are fighting and dying for us cant we at least send them games they will enjoy playing!!!

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    chris says:

    @Jack Thompson

    Anyone here could say that this game would loose money, in fact i’m sure a lot fo them did, Gamers tend to know what will suck, WE’RE the ones who buy them remember. which is why left behind failed.

    one more for the gamers, two if you count people ignoring your opinions jack, we’ve said that all along.

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    Arlen ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    In all fairness, I have not played this game, but everything I have read about it leads me to believe that it is every bit as repugnant as Jack Thompson and Timothy Simpson describe.

    That said, I’m sure there is an audience for this type of game among our soldiers, and I’m equally sure that they are playing, watching, and reading some pretty politically incorrect stuff over there already. Who are we to tell fighting men and women with what they can and cannot entertain themselves?

    I think the arguments that this is a free speech issue are correct. I also think the arguments that this is an international incident waiting to happen are correct. It seems to me that this is an exploitive game based on exploitive novels being sent by an exploitive group to soldiers. It can be hard to say what is right and what is wrong in a situation that stinks like this one.

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    celticwarrior5 says:

    what were they thinking. Why would you send a game like that to troops? It’s stuff like this that doesn’t help us put video games in a good light :( oh well like someone else said they got the right to do what ever they want with the game. I just saw a story this morning that suicide among troops has gone up this year.

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    Terrible Tom ( User Karma: -1 ) says:

    Well here in the south many religious followers give off the message of convert or go to hell… which is almost the same thing.

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    LightWarrior ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Question. I know it’s based off the book but you know how sometimes cross media is not always the same (ex:Movie/Games don’t mix well.)

    Does the BOOK give off a similer message of Convert of die?

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    Grimm24 says:

    RE: Zigs

    Um, i’m pretty sure most Christians don’t believe in suffering in order to get closer to god (even the president), but I agree with you on sending quality games to the troops.

    I mean is it really so hard to send the brave men and women over seas Bioshock or Madden 08?

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    Terrible Tom ( User Karma: -1 ) says:

    Do you guys think our troops are too dumb to realize the game is terrible? I have a good buddy in Iraq that would find this game HILARIOUSLY bad and might get a good chuckle out of it.

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    Zigs says:

    Forget about the content for a moment, the game has been described as unplayable, buggy, and ugly as hell. We torture our troops alot, Bush is a Christian and believes in suffering to get closer to god, but I think that this game would be abu-grab-ass style torture. Totally inhumane.

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    Shoehorn O'Plenty ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I’m sure the game might have been a little more palatable if it was based more closely on the story-line of the novels, which seem to have redemption as a primary theme. Other themes are how scripture might apply to the modern day, or a modern treatment of biblical themes. All of which are non-offensive, and interesting actually. However, I do not believe the books are about an army whose cause is to kill or convert those who do not believe the same thing.

    It is like (to use a completely over the top example) Fred Phelps. To a lot of people, their faith is something that gives them strength, guidance and a moral compass, all of which are admirable. Phelps however uses his “faith” to promote an agenda of hatred and bigotry, both of which are against the primary teachings of Christianity (Love thy neighbour, treat others as you would yourself). The developers took this idea of exploring older religious themes in a modern context, but used the licence to produce a preachy game that contains overtones of religious intolerance.

    The US forces in Iraq have to cope with enough intolerance and violence caused by religious groups without having to see these same themes in a video game.

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    Terrible Tom ( User Karma: -1 ) says:

    These individuals should be allowed to make the game however they wish be it accurate or not. They should be allowed to donate games to military over seas.

    That being said I do not like the game. Its pretty terrible. I don’t like the message of the game.

    Every time Jack speaks its clear he doesn’t like freedom.

    “The people who made it should be sent overseas and not allowed to come back”

    Are you kidding me? This statement alone shows how much you hate freedom. Just because someone does something you don’t agree with you wish to eject them from the country. This country is supposed to be free. We are supposed to be able to do what we wish without fear of being exiled. This statement is infinitely more absurd than any other you’ve ever made.

    Read the constitution. Try to understand the meaning of the words ‘Freedom’ and ‘Liberty’. Then try to apply those ideas to your theories.

    Why would one wish to take freedom away from his fellow Americans? This is exactly why I don’t care much about the bogus “terrorist hate us for our freedoms” BS. Because we already have American citizens hating America for what little freedoms we have left.

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    David_Ikari says:

    Hmm. In Left Behind, did you have to kill people who didn’t convert? If not, then such a thing would be comparable to killing hookers in GTA. You don’t have to, but you can.

    Careful with the statements there, kids. ^^;

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    Archgabe ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ Jack Thompson

    I agree with you on this one. Left Behind is a crap game and as a non-christian I find the game disturbing (with it’s message of convert or die). It was a bad game, and a bad decition to make it. And sending it overseas to our troops during a crucial diplomatic time is idiotic.

    See Jack? Sometimes even enemies can find common ground. After all, it is the first step to peace. Why cant we all just do the christian thing and try to get along?

    (BTW, I still belive that even though Left Behind is an offencive game, it is the right of the creators to make it. First Amendment and all.)

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    Jer ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I have to agree with all said above.

    @ Mr. John Bruce Thompson
    Careful with prideful statements like, “I was right, again.” It is not good for the soul.

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    kurisu7885 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @Jack Thompson, Attorney

    Funnily enough Jack, I agree with you on this one. Yes, the game was a colossal failure, and yes, it does completely contradict religious teachings

    A game like this would not help the situation in Iraq.

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    In other news, the U.S. Justice Department plans to send copies of the game “You Don’t Know Jack” to Alberto Gonzales’s office.

    Said, an anonymous official: “We LOVE irony!”

    As we turn to local stories, the Florida Bar has ruled that ubiquitous anti-videogame attorney Jack Thompson will be receiving the game “Overlord” as a parting gift for his “dedicated service” to Floridians and the unwashed masses of the world.

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    Erik ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    “The people who made it should be sent oversees and not allowed to come back. The game is hurtful and it is absurd. Jack Thompson”

    I agree that the game is absurd. And I don’t believe that sending it overseas would be wise as it would only serve to impassion our enemies against us and prove that this is some kind of religious war.

    Although I disagree with the game I support the creators write to make it. The people who should be sent overseas, to freedom impaired countries such as China are those people who are trying to do away with our freedoms and make us like said freedom impaired countries. For example people such as you Jack.

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    chadachada ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    “If the games were Tetris../..this issue for me would be along the Free Speech Rights of the soldiers to have ANY game, not any specific game.”

    If you’re saying what i think you’re saying, i agree. I think that just because it’s religion-oriented doesn’t make it bad, i’m sure they get other games too from other organizations (i gave my game boy advance and a couple games to care packages). If they want to play the game, i think they should. if they want to throw it away, go ahead. but at least they’ll get to choose…

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    Zigs says:


    They have personal computers, I worked on a machine that served in Iraq once. Well, I refused to work on a machine and made the soldier send it to the manufacturer (which meant he wouldn’t get it back by the time he went back to Iraq) cause he was a massive prick. That’s right, I overtly did not support the troops.

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    Zigs says:

    The shipment included the offending game in question a gideon bible (or as I call it, joint paper), A Christian extreme sports DVD (extreme Crucifixions uncensored?), and a book called More Than a Carpenter. That’s a real pile of trash they put together right there.

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    nightwng2000 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Just as a curiosity, I wonder if the Justice Dept. would have done the same if it were the Left Behind books, instead of the game.

    I’m sure military folks online could tell us what kind of “entertainment” is available over there.

    I’m not too familiar with military life and work. But, from my perspective, when you work for the military, it isn’t the same as a 9-5 job where you’re at work from 9am-5pm, and “off the clock” the rest of the time. It’s a lot more complicated than that for military folk. But I would think those who are out of country are “on the clock” 24-7, much like a business person who goes overseas for a conference or meeting.

    So what I’m wondering is, do the soldiers really have computers for personal use with video/computer games on them or are the computers that they may have treated as “business” machines, limited to the entertainment they are allowed.

    I ask all this in regards to potential Free Speech issues. If you’ve read my posts for any length of time, you know I don’t dictate what should or should not be appropriate content in games for other individuals to play. If the games were Tetris (major commercial title), GTA (major commercial title), or even Ethnic Cleansing (Independant commercial title), this issue for me would be along the Free Speech Rights of the soldiers to have ANY game, not any specific game.

    NW2K Software

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    Jack Thompson, Attorney ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Tyndale House published my book re video game violence and at the same tim gave the Left Behind rights to the Troy Lyndon group.

    I severed my relationship with Tyndale House over this game, warning that a) it would not make money, and b) it was clearly contrary to the Gospel. The game lost $4.3 million, and three people were fired over it. I was right, again.

    I applaud the decision not to allow this game to be sent oversees. The people who made it should be sent oversees and not allowed to come back. The game is hurtful and it is absurd. Jack Thompson

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