@ Jack Thompson

"Failing legal career? Hardly, not with the federal court ruling that came out last week which your Dennis McCauley won’t share here. "

You seem to be completely capable of sharing court rulings and other legal documents yourself, as is apparent from your previous posts. So why don't you just share that with us yourself then?

"Failing legal career? Hardly, not with the federal court ruling that came out last week which your Dennis McCauley won’t share here."

We must not be reading the same order, Jack, 'cause it sounds like you lil' federal lawsuit is careening towards dismissal, despite your dilatory efforts to the contrary. Highlights of Judge Adalberto Jordan's Omnibus Order of Sept. 7, 2007:

-Jack sued the Florida Bar and Judge Dava Tunis. Judge Adalberto notes: "the Florida Bar is not a proper defendant in this lawsuit...As an agency of the State of Florida, the Bar is not susceptible to suit under 42 U.S.C. § 1983 because it is not a 'person' under the statute." Hence, Jack seeks to add in a whole mess of individual folks, which he's apparently done in the newest version of his complaint--as I said before, we can't expect Jack to get it right the first few times. Hey, speaking of which:

-Judge Jordan: "Mr. Thompson is advised that further amendments to his complaint will not be permitted without good cause, as he has already been given multiple opportunities to amend his complaint, and it is unfair to require the defendants to file and re-file new motions to dismiss each time." Of course, I'm guessing the Bar won't have many problems filing new motions to dismiss, as they can build on the briefing they've already done.

-Judge Jordan also says, "as the record now stands, I would abstain from any claims that Mr. Thompson has raised against Judge Tunis under the doctrine announced by the Supreme Court in Younger v. Harris." However, the Judge is allowing Jack to file yet another new complaint, so he's not going to dismiss on Younger grounds...right now. Though he says that, "since Mr. Thompson has now moved to file a third amended complaint, and the defendants have agreed to his filing of the same...I express no view on what my ruling on Younger abstention will be with respect to the third yet-unfiled amended complaint," I'm guessing that, if Jack alleges anything like he's already alleged, the Judge will kick it out on Younger grounds just the same.

-Judge Jordan also chastized Jack for not putting forth his own evidence (in fact, the Judge repeatedly underlined the word "evidence") of the Bar's alleged bad faith after the Judge asked for it. The Judge noted that Jack continued to merely allege bad faith prosecutions of the Bar complaints: "Such filings by Mr. Thompson are clearly insufficient to meet his burden in proving an exception to Younger abstention."

-"Furthermore, any other claims that Mr. Thompson has raised, or may raise, against the Florida Bar itself are barred by the Eleventh Amendment." Jack can't proceed on any claims directly against the Florida Bar in this lawsuit--that is the word of the Court.

Basically, what it all boils down to is that the Bar and the Court have done Jack a lil' favor by allowing him to file yet another version of his complaint. However, the individual Bar/Court members that Jack is now suing will surely re-raise all the stuff they've already raised, and it looks like Judge Jordan would most likely (but not necessarily) rule in their favor.

[...] (Sources: GamePolitics, The Press-Enterprise) Technorati tags: Arnold Schwarzenegger, Arnold, Shwarzenegger, video games, appeal, California [...]

“I think it should be governed just like the movies,” the Temecula resident said. “Some of these games are just so advanced.”

Baaaaa, I like Arnies movies, Baaaaa!

You know, if we Americans actually started to think for ourselves, instead of being sheep and told what to think, we might actually have a decent country again.

"Justin Yang, owner of Mega Video in San Bernardino, which rents and sells movies and video games, said there are too many violent video games and they’re not good for children.

“If more control goes on, I’m with that,” Yang said. "

How about simply following the ESRB guidelines and not handing them out to children? Those rating stickers do serve a purpose after all.

Sad example, has his own store with games and movies and still does not recognize the difference between a game for kids and one for adults.

Or an even better idea, instead of having the government doing something how about he simply removes everything violent from his store? Movies and games.

Those who like it that way can go to his store, and everyone else goes to a store that has our violent stuff.

Nobody cares what the voters think about the appeal. It's a legal/ constitutional issue, and only nerds take polls on whether to do the right thing. Jack Thompson

@JB

heh, I just watched the 1984 film last night, funny that john hurt was winston smith and he ended up playing the 'big brother' in V for Vendetta....

Anyway yeah, its really sad that people would elect to have themselves shackled (metaphorically speaking) even if it is just on the games level, these things need defending at every stage. As the saying goes, the only thing evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

However I'm pretty sure that the appeal will be struck down just like the first time.

John Bruce Thompson, nobody cares about what you think, unless it's something that is detrimental to your failing legal career.

Maybe it's because I'm in a bad mood but sometimes I can't wait for the "big one" to hit so California sinks into the ocean and takes some of these idiots with it. In fact I wish all the idiots in this country would move there.

I don't know which is more pathetic, the video store owner who wants the Government to do his job, or Jack's latest attempts at trolling.

I'm going with the video store owner as the latter is neither surprising nor notable.

@ bitnine

What we need is a SEP It seems to be working for the movie industry, so why not us.

I wish people would get over this. We don't need laws to regulate this. The guy who owns a game store and is in favor of legislation needs to be slapped. I can't believe what I read. If he followed the ESRB ratings, he would not need legislation to make him do his job.

@ JackAss Thompson

Nobody cares what the voters think about the appeal. It’s a legal/ constitutional issue, and only nerds take polls on whether to do the right thing. Jack Thompson

You're right, we must be nerds. You, on the other hand, just plain don't do the right thing, do you?

Besides AssWipe Thompson, we already know how this will happen; the uber socialest California may pass the law, but guess what? The US SUPREME COURT WILL OVERTURN IT!

And just like it's been said, there is no legal backing to any of the MPAA's ratings, why should there be so for games.

Also:

It's obvious the law is not constitutional (quoting JT) DUH

I've summarized an otherwise length post:

All these video game laws "to protect the minors" are going to kill the industry as a whole here in America. Is that what the government wants? Is this that secret agenda of JT's? Not the restriction of games to minors but instead the entire industry as a whole simply gone from America?

No one cares what the voters think. Arnold Schwarzenegger, being elected by the people, is the embodiment of the wishes of those voters. Therefore, nobody should care what HE thinks. Case was decided, appeal will fail no matter how much certain people want this law. Actually, it probably doesn't matter what the courts say. If they agree, whoop-de-doo for them, Schwarzenegger and Yee are the heroes. If they turn it down, all soccer moms see is a Court that doesn't care about their children, and will continue to vote for those so "concerned" for their offspring. Any crafty politician measures every move they make by the number of votes it'll get them. Guess it matters what the voters think (or think they think) after all.

Notice how pissy Jack gets when people actually pay attention to their government? Could it be its because his crusade is based on people being ignorant of the facts?

Thanks for that standridge, any tales of jack's failure are good for a laugh, where did yuog et all that by the way?


And yeah this topic is going to be fodder for jack because of the 'they dont actually play the games' is good for a sound bite, but when compared to the facts its irrelevant.

@ Mark Standridge

Thank you very much for sharing all that!

Where are you finding all this? PACER?

@Conejo

Watch it mate. Communism is a lesser evil against Fascism and, to a lesser extent, Capitalism.

@Mark Standridge

Neat. It's always good to smack Jack in the face with these little bits of reality.

only nerds take polls on whether to do the right thing. Jack Thompson

Democracy?

@BlackIce, Leftie

In theory communism is great BUT is doesn't work out in real life. Unless you want a government like Cuba or the former Soviet Union. Sorry but i prefer a capitalistic democracy to a socialist fascist state and yes communism and fascism can co-exist as communism is just an economic/fiscal system whereas fascism is a state where the government controls everyone and everything. All communist states are pretty much fascist to.

@BmK

While what you say is true, Capitalists are more than willing to make good friends with Fascits. Look at Chavez. He was democraticaly elected. But the US government (Capitalists, some can be called Fascist) didn't get as much oil from him. So, they staged the infamous Coup'D'Etat in 2002 and replaced him with a Nazi. They also did it to just about every country in South America but Brazil.

And the list doesn't stop there. I won't go any further though, i'm already off topic and I really run the risk of offending a lot of people here.

Afterthought: You ever see The War on Democracy? It's a very good Doc. Perfectly informative and possibly able to start a Revolution.

@Nekowolf

They're just paying the Mob to snuff each other. It does take time.

@ JT

Voters are one of the most important things that make this country great. It gives us a chance to voice our opinion on the matter rather than letting the government control our lives. Without voters, we would be living a country that was entirely different from what we have now. You claim that no one cares about the voters, but the voters are everything, so I'm going to say they matter.

No, of course it doesn't matter what the voters think. They only...I don't know...shape their governments. Nothing too serious.

Ultimately, elected officials have to answer to the people. If the people don't like the elected officials, the elected officials get the boot.

But then that's why you're a lawyer, right Jack? You just have to convince a shrink you're sane every 10 years, you don't have to answer to people.

"Jack Thompson Says:
September 10th, 2007 at 9:13 am
Failing legal career? Hardly, not with the federal court ruling that came out last week which your Dennis McCauley won’t share here."


GTFO Bitch!

@ Jack Thompson

Uh, shouldn't you, being an attourney, be, oh I don't know... DOING YOUR JOB?

@ GameClucks

I'd rather leave a kid at a LAN center than a park, for all those reasons you posted. Makes perfect sense, honestly.

@GameClucks
Is selling a kid a T rated game enforced? Or not as much as M?

So it'll be nearly 2 years before this law is finally dead and buried?

I rather like the idea the one store had where the parents fill out the card in advance. This way, instead of screening every single purchase and worrying about the ones that get through the cracks, it'll be on the kid's card and backed up on the computer. And it really is parental choice, as they make the decision to either say enforce the rating or not.

@J-Guy

Is selling a kid a T rated game enforced? Or not as much as M?

Depends on the retailer, but most don't worry about enforcing the "T" rating. Partly because everyone cares about M, but also partly because while the ESRB recommends age 13 for T games, they don't explicitly require it as an age minimum. M is for 17+, T is for 13 "ish".

@DeathlyJ
Whenever I was carded for R movies, it was AFTER I said "Here's my I.D." Now I don't even bother. In other words, I was never asked.

Personally, I find any information about public opinion very interesting, because it shows how much work the games industry needs to do in educating people about games, the rating system, etc.

@ Ed Orman

But... sometimes it's just so damn lulzy.

*sighs* No matter. Aren't most of Hollywood's movies shit these days anyway?

Is that the real Jack Thompson or some internet-savvy doppleganger?

Why does Jack Thompson say something sensible only 5% of the time? Is it simply a fluke?

More control is good. I think that most people are all for more control on sales of violent video games. Does this mean that the more control should be imposed by the government? No.

It's funny how every nook and cranny of the American political spectrum contains people who want government control on video games.

Jack, the coolest guy in the world, called us nerds! Are you serious Jack? I doubt you were exactly captain of the football team in highschool.

Don't they always?

[...] The question from here is whether the government officials in Oklahoma see fit to continue to waste taxpayer money and the court’s time in addressing this issue, as California seems determined to do. I have long supported the proposition that parents should be controlling their children’s media consumption, not the government, and this seems to be another step in the right direction. [...]