TV Shrink Will Lead U.K. Review of Violent Video Games

TV Shrink Will Lead U.K. Review of Violent Video Games

September 11, 2007
Is she the British Dr. Phil?

That's hard to say, but Tanya Byron, psychologist, author and host of a pair of self help-oriented television programs, has been chosen to lead the British government's review of video game violence.

According to MCV:
Byron will talk to both parents and the interactive entertainment industry before reporting her findings to the Department for Culture, Media and Sport and the Department for Children Schools and Families.

She will also tackle the issue of children’s access to pornographic and violent material on the internet.

Said Byron:
The internet is a powerful and positive tool for children in terms of their learning and ongoing development. However, we must all enable our children to use the possibility presented by the internet in a way that is both positive and safe.

Therefore it is essential that parents and anyone involved in the care and development of young people are familiar with the material they will access and view - and of the potential and actual risks therein.

Byron's review is expected to take six months to complete.

Comments

"Byron will talk to both parents and the interactive entertainment industry before reporting her findings to the Department for Culture, Media and Sport and the Department for Children Schools and Families."

Good thing, but I'd like her to talk to some video game journalists and players too. After all, gamers are the first people concerned.
My only problem with this decision is that once you're on TV, everything you do is to further your own "franchise" as a form of entertainment. This may make her biased towards a more sensational stance. I'm not in the UK, so I wish them the best on this.
"She's talking to me. Jack Thompson"

Yes, but so is that Judge at your hearing. Shouldn't you be listening to him, Jackie Boy?
@Jack Thompson

No, you aren't, nor would she choose to associate with you.

In some ways it is good that this woman is involved, she has a deal of respect for children and their intelligence and doesn't just write them off as violent, brainwashed thugs. Most of her show centres around educating parents and listening to all points of view, including the childs', there could hardly be two more polar opposite views than hers' and Jacks 'Do their thinking for them' mentality. That's how I know that Mr Thompsons' claims are false as most of his previous ones.
Jack's just hearing the voices in his head again.
Byron will talk to both parents and the interactive entertainment industry before reporting her findings to the Department for Culture, Media and Sport and the Department for Children Schools and Families.

I guess the question begs to be asked, why doesn't she plan to talk to other psychologists?
I like what she had to say, but I'm a little concerned she's only taking six months to do all this in. I guess we'll all have to wait for her report. Hopefully someone from the UK will pop in and let us know what kind of person she is.
Can't say I watch any of the shows, I have better things to do with my time. All I can say is that NO good can come of this. None whatsoever.
After the "Manhunt Murder" the House of Commons commissioned a review of video game violence and found that there was no link between it and increased aggression.

I have to wounder why, in light of the previous findings, why such a review is needed.
Oh, on her shows she accepts video-games she isn't really for or against them, but considering the fact it is being looked at as a "protecting the children" thing the government will go so over the top even if she just suggests an amendment to the ratings and the way they are explained on the box. Considering her shows are about helping parent your children because for some reason the book of parenting no longer comes free with a baby (trust me here in England most parents haven't a clue how to raise or discipline a child), shes all about giving the power back to the parent so hopefully it will turn out well.
"Byron will talk to both parents and the interactive entertainment industry before reporting her findings to the Department for Culture, Media and Sport and the Department for Children Schools and Families."

I think this is a good thing. The only people involved in video games and children's exposure to them should be parents, and the only people involved with explaining the existing guidelines, safeguards, parental controls and ratings should be the gaming industry. I like the fact that there is no mention of politicians, special interest groups or fear mongers.

"She will also tackle the issue of children’s access to pornographic and violent material on the internet."

This is always a concern, but access to things on the internet is very different to access to a video game. A website does not cost €50 to view. A pc will not be in the living room plugged into the tv.

"The internet is a powerful and positive tool for children in terms of their learning and ongoing development. However, we must all enable our children to use the possibility presented by the internet in a way that is both positive and safe."

Therefore it is essential that parents and anyone involved in the care and development of young people are familiar with the material they will access and view - and of the potential and actual risks therein."

This is what we have been saying all along. She is talking about it in reference to the internet, but the same is true of games. They can be powerful and positive in terms of learning, but there are elements of certain games that may not be suitable for young children. Parents have to be aware of this, need to make themselves familiar with the type of games out there, with the ratings system and use this knowledge to make sure that their children only play suitable games.
"Therefore it is essential that parents and anyone involved in the care and development of young people are familiar with the material they will access and view - and of the potential and actual risks therein."

The paragraph gives me hopes shell come to an impartial and practical solution based on parenting and parental awareness, but untill she publishes her findings we'll just have to hope.
So far I've heard nothing Dr. Philish on this. But then again, I'm in the states and know nothing about her.
She's talking to me. Jack Thompson

PS: Hooah!
TV and shrink are never good combinations, no matter what country you live in.
Parental Responsibility asks: "Okay, this is something of an issue, but where are the children getting the Games and playing them without the parent knowing? On the subject or pornography, why are you letting your young impressionable child browse the internet without guidance and more so, why does your child WANT to look up porn, then?"

Entertainment responsibility asks: "How can we over-expose this as a big issue and make everyone think that they have something terrible happening all around them? What can we do to milk this for all it's worth and make as much money as we can off the fear of ignorant parents?"
"She’s talking to me. Jack Thompson"


Which instantly negates any credibility that she might of had.
Let us know what time it airs, Jack, so we can all tune in.
@ Radio Guy:

There will be as many reviews as necessary for the House of Commons to find someone who reaches the conclusion they want to hear.
In order to prevent a child from getting a violent video game all you need to do is learn to say "no". It's been proven effective 100% of the time it was implemented. In short be a parent.

In order to prevent your child from viewing violent or pornographic material on the Internet, either don't let them go on it unsupervised or use the parental controls that every ISP provides.

Wow. That was easy. I figured out what we need to do to curb children's access to "inappropriate material", and it only took me five minutes.
Has anyone heard of the videogame special for Dr. Phil? I check everyday but it's just the usual teenage daughters acting like sluts and etc.
"She’s talking to me. Jack Thompson"

And now it's doomed to failure, excellent work.[sarcasm]
It is a shame that so many people like this woman and Quack Phill find it necessary to talk to Thompson. It just shows me that they don't have a real interest in the topic and are just going for ratings. There are much more gentlemanly of opponents to the game industry out there. Why they talk to an immature codger who clings to facts dismissed by the very newspapers they were originally printed in is confounding.
Jack Thompson, Massacre Chaser said:
"She’s talking to me. Jack Thompson

PS: Hooah! "

Translation:
"She sent me a form letter to one of my inane press releases that a 10 year old would find grammatically deficient.

PS: FUCK THE TROOPS!!"

Apologies for using one of the FCC'S SEVEN DIRTY WORDS OF DANGER DOOM HURT PAIN, but, as Frank Zappa said, such strong language can get the point across properly without beating around the bush.
This may or may not go well, we'll just have to wait and see.
Why are you all so hopeful. She hosts a self-help show. She isn't going to be impartial.

I enjoy that she is actually a psychologist, though. I don't even think Dr. Phil manages that even though he has Dr. in front of his name.
@ Erik

"Which instantly negates any credibility that she might of had."

No need for that. We talk to jackyboy all the time don't we?
She’s talking to me. Jack Thompson

Then she obviously doesn't know enough about you.

And enough with the hooah already - have you no respect?
"No need for that. We talk to jackyboy all the time don’t we?"

Too true. But if I had my own television show I would only bring him on to humiliate him.
Personally Jack, I think she's talking to you not about the video game issue, but more for counselling to see how paranoid and demented you are...
She’s talking to me. Jack Thompson

Like Jeb Bush "talked" to you? Jack, it doesn't count when YOU contact THEM...

Therefore it is essential that parents and anyone involved in the care and development of young people are familiar with the material they will access and view - and of the potential and actual risks therein.

Hopefully they actually see how well parents use the BBFC system, and also that they don't hype up the "risks" by using bad science.
That was either Jack or a random Jack troll impersonator.

Either way, both lie.

If that was the real Jack Thompson, then proove that she is talking to you.

And I'll thank you to keep a civil tounge about it.
@Erik

"Too true. But if I had my own television show I would only bring him on to humiliate him."

Hell, a retarded chimp could do that!

@SchemeMonkey:

Gonna be waiting a while on both counts... Seeing as how a) said 'proof' doesn't exist and b) Jack? Civil? How long have you been posting here?
You know, Jack has really shown that he is a true troll. He pops in to make some absurd comment that has little to no relevance to the discussion at hand at attempts to steer the conversation in his direction. He also knows that certain action really get on our nerves and he makes a point to do those, as is apparent by his "PS: Hooah!"

Don't you just love trolls?
[...] Appointing a television psychologist to review videogame violence is both absurd and entertaining! [...]
@E. Zachary:

No, not particularly, but I do enjoy seeing them get the smackdown/banhammer, which I assume after his disbarrment in November JT will get to wave buh-bye to his posting privledges here, and we'll all live happily ever after.
I am from the UK and even I only vaguely recognise this woman.

I think it is safe to say she knows nothing about video-games, so I am not too optimistic about the outcome. She is no Dr. Phil thankfully, although I would not be surprised to see a new TV series or book launch on the back of this. She seems to be a populist who passes off soft-psychology as fact.

No doubt the report will completely disregard external factors such as poverty or inequality, it amazes me how, when analysing the effects of certain media, that the context they are a part of is ignored. It is as if video-games exist in some abstract bubble, detached from the reality around them.

... also will people just ignore this 'Jack Thompson', every topic degenerates into some petty exchange that detracts from the subject at hand.
so Britain is taking the opinion of a television show shrink?

i don't think the senate would allow Dr. Phil to talk about anything.

i expected better from England.
Its funny when i think back when there was a time when i wanted to live in the UK. Thankfuly i got over that. The governmnet over there has launched an all out war on youth culture.
Its not a matter of if shes talking to thompson, its a matter of if shes smart enough to realize what a loon he really is once she talks to him. Somehow i doubt that she really closely follows the exploits of a rather single minded unsuccessful american lawyer and only has contacted thompson because shes heard his name come up before.
[...] Post-Scripum : Bon, je vais quand même écrire quelques lignes sur le contexte : jeudi dernier, la psychologue britannique Tanya Byron a publié un rapport qui est censé faire le point sur les jeux vidéo et internet : effets positifs et négatifs, état de la recherche, de la législation et des pratiques de l’industrie, recommandations, etc. Ce rapport, commandité en octobre dernier par le Premier Ministre Gordon Brown, était attendu depuis longtemps par tous les acteurs concernés : hommes politiques, industriels, journalistes généralistes ou spécialisés, joueurs… Il y a d’abord eu un appel à contributions ouvert à tout le monde jusqu’en décembre (j’en ai été, soit dit en passant), suivi par des mois de rumeurs et de spéculations. Et maintenant, ça y est, il est publié, et il fait la une. [...]

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