New Jersey Parents React Negatively To Wii Zapper
New Jersey Parents React Negatively To Wii Zapper
September 14, 2007
Earlier this week, New Jersey's The Star-Ledger polled the readers of its Parental Guidance blog on what they thought of Nintendo’s forthcoming Wii Zapper, a plastic shell that combines the Wiimote and Nunchuk into a rifle-looking device for use in first-person shooter games. The majority of the responses, the paper reports, were highly negative:
Great, this is what we need. Children with guns learning how to aim and shoot. Then we can sit back and wonder what is happening to our country with kids killing kids......what's next? Could we make it squirt blood, too?
Nintendo ought to be fined for introducing to 4-9 years old kids a "toy" that promotes guns. The next thing you know they will include an application to the NRA in the game. Who ever thought up this stupid game ought to be fired. I would NEVER purchase a Nintento product for my grandkids from here on...
I think it's irresponsible for Wii to come out with a controller that looks like a gun so kids can play games simulating shooting. What kind of message are we sending as parents when we buy these things for our kids?
While the published responses were uniformly negative toward the Wii Zapper, that may have something to do with how the original question was presented (emphasis The Star-Ledger’s):
Wii announced over the summer that it's coming out the a gun-like remote, so kids can play shooter games, with, well, a shooter.
What do you think about making a wand in the shape of a weapon so play is more realistic? ...Is it harmful? ...Will you buy one for your kids?
Even so, not every reader was ready to brandish the pitchforks and light the torches.
...I really hope that those people out there who believe that a gun-shaped remote will turn every kid that touches one into a homicidal maniac, don't ruin the fun for us Wii-playing adults who can handle the reality. I grew up with toy guns and also shot a rifle in the sixth grade and never killed anyone....If you don't think it's a good idea, then please, feel free to exercise your right to protest by not purchasing the product.....
I think this a really dumb thing to do.. however, as a parent.. i make the choice what comes in my home.. This will not.... Just because it is available doesn't mean we have to buy it.
-Reporting from San Diego, GP Correspondent Andrew Eisen
Comments
Which exit?
This story is very funny. I've never seen a gun that looks like the Wii Zapper. This is from a generation of kids that grew up with capguns. I guess the intial question was too "loaded."
Heh... Pretty soon "A Christmas Story" will be banned because it promotes guns!
What's more dangerous... using a toy that look slike a gun, or a video game meant to simulate a gun. cmon.. this is just stupid.
Parents of today: parenting and raising children involves teaching your children what is acceptable behavior and action, and what isn't. If, after playing with some fake instrument of death and pain, you realize that they become much more violent in general, you, as a parent, are responsible to set them straight. Everyone needs to be taught that when James Bond kills a bad guy, it's only a movie, and there is a big difference between that and real life. So take a reality check. Your kids aren't murderers, and if you just teach them right from wrong as best you can, it's extremely doubtful that they ever will be.
On your list, you forgot:
a stick or twig
As a kid, how many of us picked up a fallen stick or twig and played cops and robbers?
Reading the first few comments at the Star Ledger blog is really disturbing. Are parents and grandparents that out of touch with reality? The Wii Zapper being viewed on par with a real gun? Give it a rest. When has anyone seen a gun like that?!?!
I wonder how many of those parents also purchase Star Wars light sabers, SpiderMan web slingers and Pirates of the Caribbean swords for their kids?
And as a sidenote, maybe we can talk about how the zapper doesnt even look anything like a real gun. Maybe we can blame candy cigarettes for people smoking. Or how about the gum cigars for people liking cigars. Big League Chew could be blamed for chewing tobacco. IBC Root Beer (since it comes in an actual bottle) for kids wanting to drink beer. Yeah. Lets go overboard everywhere. Seriously, people need to get a life.
Are you out of your mind, Dennis? There is a problem with gun violence in this country, and Nintendo is feeding that problem. What a dork.
Jack Thompson
See my response to DragonBomber.
I have other reasons, but people die if I get to angry.
To me only M-Rated games are good (With some acceptions). That is because they are usually the only games that appeal to me.
And, thank you, but I will not be cutting back on the language. It helps vent frustration, which is something that I have a lot of funnily enough.
I can only hope this is the case. I want to sport one of those amazing gangster coupes one day. I would rather have it converted to electric or biodiesel than run gas, but in the long run I likely will never own one and am merely dreaming. Cool cars and zoot suits. That's where the danger's at.
When Nintendo first showed off their new controller, I laughed. I thought it was the dumbest thing in the world. Then I listened to the reason behind the design. Nintendo wanted to break out of the hardcore demographic. They did not want to abandon them, but expand. They designed the remote to look and feel more like the tv remote, something almost everyone feels comfortable using. This allowed people who have never used a game controller before pick it up and feel like they knew what they were doing.
Dispite what you think, Nintendo has done more for video gaming this generation than Sony or MS could have dreamed. They are getting people over 50 interested in gaming.
As for your M rated games argument, Nintendo software has always been about family friendly. That is just the way they are. They have always relied on 3rd party developers to bring in the M rated games. If 3rd party developers didn't underestimate the Wii before launch, there would be more quality M rated games. So don't blaim Nintendo for 3rd party developers not doing their jobs.
I love how they panic when a game uses a gun like toy, but never when stores sell water guns to kids at like 99 cents, or the super soakers, or nerf guns for that matter.
@Scottland89
Technically all that is is plastic. You just place the Wii-Mote and Nunchaku in the slots. Not a new electronic. It's the same concept for the Wii-Mote steering wheel.
I thought you were talking about the Sega Master System Phaser for a minute. I kept thinking to myself, when did they release a model II Phaser, then a Model III Phaser? I was certainly stumped, then jumped to the logical explanation that you meant Trek. ;) I have had more game guns over the years than I can recall. Odd ones for old classic systems, several types of Zappers, Sega Phaser, the Menacer, the SuperScope, the Lethal Enforcers gun, and a couple others. I never had the Time Crisis compatible ones big on the Dreamcast and Sony PS1, but I think I was spent by then on gun games.
Slings aren't weapons to be scoffed at. A number of ancient armies had soldiers who were proficient with slings. The sling bullets were carved and sharpened rocks that were most definitely deadly in the hands of someone who knew what they were doing.
Additionally, there was a weapon called a staff sling. It was basically a sling on the end of a three to four foot stick. It was more difficult to use, but it could generate even more velocity.
They were used in King's The Dark Tower series, but (no groaning here) a historical usage was David slaying Goliath. (There was a good History Channel show on this -- I think it was an episode of Ancient Weapons.)
There was another story from New Jersey yesterday regarding a city councilman taking a water gun away from a kid at a swimming pool. If I can find the link again, I'll post it.
Only since the PSOne? Someone get that child an Atari 2600, Commodore Vic-20, and an IBM XT!
:D
DragonBomber,
I ruled at Duck Hunt. But then, since I have been near sighted since birth, I've had to sit right in front of the TV to watch it or play games. Kinda takes the fun out of it when you sit so close that you can touch the screen with the gun. So I never got into the light gun craze. S'okay though, I wasn't into that much realism back then anyway. I guess that's why I'm drawn more to the advancement of storytelling than the advancement of graphics and audio.
Nightwing2000
NW2K software
Why exactly are you trying to turn this topic into a nintendo - sony - ms console fanboy war?
I really couldn't give a monkeys which company made the lightgun, the issue here is the clueless people on the "omg! a lightgun for a console? it's turning children into murderers!¬!¬" line of thought
And yet you are going after the fake guns, and doing nothing about the fucking REAL guns. What a joke you have become.
What a compliment! I wish I knew that much
Asmodeus, If you complete basic english courses, I will not only give you a cookie, but Id love to have an intelligent chat. ok?
Until then, stop slamming people if you can't slam right.
Yours, with greatest hope for all remaining human morality,
Zehn
I'm not even going to bother that i'm likely older than you.. Foolish Child..
The only people out of their mind are people who act like gun violence never existed before video games. This article was pedantic tripe just like the crap you spew around. I guess the fact that children starting at age 11 are allowed to use their own real guns for hunting is just beside the point with you. No, only video games and now the Wii Zapper are the only ways that children get introduced to guns. What childish notion you have.
ok back to blue dragon
Every time I think he's hit rock bottom, he finds a way to sink even further into a world of rubber walls and neuroleptics.
I played with plastic toy weapons and other imitiations and it didn't make me a killer.
Either the people who are complaining are complete morons (no offense but they are) or a lack of toy history. (from gun darts to BB guns)
But then, when has blatant hypocrisy ever been a problem for you?
But, err, the whole point of the Second Amendment is so that The People and the several States could protect themselves from said standing army should the Federal government ever abuse it. Go read the Federalist papers. Or go read the recent Circuit Court decision in Parker vs. DC.
Anyhoo, if you don't like us having guns, Molon Labe. ;)
Umm, this is New Jersey we're talking about. If anything, the proper troll line would be "godless commie liberals."
Ask your parents to let you out of the closet for once. Or at least ask them for a book or something. Your ignorance is making the anti-gamers look intelligent here..
Just because a kid holds a knife doesn't mean he's gonna be a killer.
"What is... Proper parenting? Alex."
By the way, for those of you over-protective, paranoid "parents" sheilding your children from "harmful" material until they're 18, they will have no way to cope with the outside world, filled with violence, sex, drugs, and... Bad parents.
Dun dun dunn!
I feel the Nintendo will really ruin gaming, and that the most violent game will be allowed to play is cricket, if this keeps up.
Plus doesn't the zapper go against what the wii is about? No peripherals, just the controller? Glad to see that nintendo kept their plan, and not just trying to go for more money.
Again, adults show their ignorance by claiming video games are just for kids.
"What kind of message are we sending as parents when we buy these things for our kids?"
Don't buy it then. Be a parent for once and just say no to the kid.
does anyone know how much the Zappers are supposed to cost?
1st (hopefully)
Jesus Christ, a what bunch of freakin' idiots.
Plastic Dart Guns.
"Realistic" plastic machine guns, AK47s, even the "realistic" wodden riffles.
Cap guns.
Paintball guns.
Laser Tag.
Water pistols.
Water soaker rifles.
"Guns" that fire cars.
Guns that shoot Nerf balls.
Guns that shoot... pretty much any "bullet" design (circle, ball, etc).
Plastic bows and arrows.
Toy crossbows.
Plastic lightsabers.
Plastic swords.
Plastic knives.
Plastic battleaxes.
Big foamy "bats" for hitting each other.
Plastic grenades.
Plastic batons.
Rock 'em Sock 'em.
Darts (plastic, velcro, sharp tip, etc).
Etc
Etc
Etc
Nah, only video games have EVER encouraged young children to be violent or how to practice preparing to use long range weapons better.
Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
Or maybe I just can't "aim".
This zapper is not a peripheral. It is a gun shaped casing that houses the Wiimote and nunchuck(funny no one complains about that name). Resident evil and other M rated games will be using this, but you don't have too.
Nintendo is not trying to sell this as a kids console. They are trying to sell it as a console for everyone, from kids to geriatrics. They will not ruin gaming for everyone. So get a life.
@ Deathnote
$19.99(US)
"Nintendo ought to be fined for introducing to 4-9 years old kids a “toy” that promotes guns."
So what about Nerf, Supersoakers, Capguns, BBguns, Air rifles *list goes ever on ever on (a cookie to who knows where that last bit came from)* Do all those companies need to be fined even more for marketing their products exclusively to children?
Anyways, where were people claiming to be worried about "teh childrenz" with the original NES/Famicom that had it's own light-gun controller?
Oh no...!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cap_gun
Evil is everywhere!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spud_gun
EVERYWHERE!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerf
NOOOOOO!
But you see cap guns are just innocent fun for kids.
With the Wii, the despicable folks at Nintendo are letting children use a massive white plastic thing to shoot at low resolution images of low-polygon terrorist and zombie models on a screen. Or at least at Eledees, that being the only E-rated FPS.
But cap guns let children go outside and enjoy firing replica guns at their friends in real life. Pure wholesome fun.
"Could we make it squirt blood, too?"
One of the most ignorant comments ever.
"I would NEVER purchase a Nintendo product for my grandkids from here on..."
Whoever said this is really overreaching, out of touch, and overly sensitive.
"What kind of message are we sending as parents when we buy these things for our kids?"
I have the perfect answer to that question. If you, the parent, feels uncomfortable to buy the Wii Zapper, then DO NOT buy the peripheral.
The first three quotes in the article a damn good display of ignorance. Kudos to the final two quotes, though.
This fool makes a very big stupid point in his second sentence. "Children with guns". Now, I may have this wrong, but as far as I know, the nintendo zapper combined with Wiimote and Nunchuk is not a real gun! I could be mistaken, could someone clarify for me if it fires real bullets?
You could learn to aim with a toy gun I suppose, but to shoot? Compensate for recoil? Reload and maintain a firearm? Don't make me laugh. I had the highest score on Time Crisis 2 at college for 4 years running, but I still don't know how to load a real gun and would be scared out of my wits if I was actually to use one.
"Then we can sit back and wonder what is happening to our country with kids killing kids……what’s next?"
Your kid playing with a wii zapper will not lead to him killing another child. Your kid having mental problems, who is bullied at school, who does not receive the correct attention or treatment and who has access to a REAL firearm? Now that could certainly lead to a lethal scenario. Nothing is "happening to our country". There have been isolated incidents all through modern history of people who have gone crazy and killed multiple people with guns, before and after video games became popular. There will continue to be people who go crazy. The best we can do is try and find ways of better diagnosing or recognising people who may be prone to this and ensuring early treatment or close supervision. The worst we can do is pretend that video games or heavy metal or (insert cultural scapegoat) is responsible for it.
The Wii Zapper is no more harmful to children than a Super Soaker.
HELLO? Ever heard of Time Crisis? House of the dead? Did they ever send anyone on a shooting spree? NO, they were just freakin' fun games!
Kinda looked like I was saying that they lacked ignorance.
So this doesn't surprise me one bit. Their readership pretty much pounces on every loaded question the editorials bring out. At least the Asbury Park Press doesn't pull this crap.
Oh... @Robb?
105 =P
Maybe we need video game legislation after all. Parents are obviously incapable of paying any attention whatsoever. (Yes, I'm just being sarcastic, lest someone think I actually want legislation.)
What ever happened to introducing kids to guns and a nice safety course at a young age???
While people love ranting about how gangs of kids are going around shooting each other, if I recall correctly, accidental shootings by children who were never properly taught gun safety are FAR more common.
In short, if one wants fewer kids killed by guns, introduce them to guns at a young age and teach them how to NOT misuse them......
I'm waiting for Jack to get up and name it as a murder stimulator and try to get it banned as a "Public Nuisance"
Seriously, some people are such idiots. "I won't be buying this for my grandkids" thats nice lady, but umm, what about that plastic rifle you bought for your grandson? Or that barbie doll (you know, the one that will leave your granddaughter scared for life with body image issues) for your granddaughter? Honestly, what do you think will do more harm?
Anyway, these parents fail at life - if your 9 year old kid is so impressionable, keep him/her from playing shooting games. Then they can blame you when they take the pre-req Halo-Studies 204 in college and fail!
15c worth of HPDE (I'm guessing here) mixed with white colored resin and molded into a $20 shape that resembles a weapon is NOT going to teach a kid how to shoot, is NOT going to make them violent, and ONLY your lack parental input will allow your kids to be screwed up.
OK, I'm done rambling.
Actually, now that I think about it, those things do have pistol like triggers on them... Oh my! Is my parent's housework teaching them how to kill? Just think, every flower nourished could lead to another dead body in the streets! The government needs to step in and stop this deviant housework now, or the country is doomed!
Please, won't someone think of the children!
but take two didn't make the zapper, so Jack PROBABLY won't have a problem with it.
Hold your tongue. Bayou Billy was the est game ever. I own it and love it. :)
One more thing. Earlier this decade, I went clay shooting. It is when someone launches a disc into the air at a fast speed while you try to shoot it with a shotgun. At the time, I was into First-Person shooters. I would play them constantly. I killed opposing forces in those games and got high accuracy scores. When I went clay shooting, I could only hit only two of the large discs...out of the 25 launched for me. And when I say hit, I mean barely. My point is that games can't and don't help your accuracy in real-life.
@ William and Neeneko
I completely agree.
But I mean, come on, it used to be that the use of firearms was good wholesome family fun back in the 50's when every Christmas some young boy would get a department store rifle...
Why then is it that now, standoffish parents who want to put their parenting on autopilot, think one little remote control with a rifle stock and grip will poison their children's mind? I was introduced to the Nintendo Light Gun when I was five for crying out loud! (And it actually looked like a GUN, instead of a piece of modern art!) Not to mention all the arcade shooters I played up until my teenage years. You won't see me shooting up your local mall, for one simple reason, my parents played the game with me, and on top of that my father gave me a rather 'passed down' chat that he remembered his grandfather gave to him. When my father came off watching too much black and white westerns with far too much glee, and took up hunting.
If you really want somebody else to raise your children, how about you donate your children to the government so they can raise them any way they want them? Hitler Youth Corps anyone? Keeping pushing the 'pass parenting off to the government' button any harder and that's where you'll end up. Lazy, good-for-nothing absentee parents..
Holy shit! A parent who actually gets it. We need to find this person and clone them!
What about the parents that DO teach their kids how to shoot a real weapon? Those bother me a lot more than parents who buy their kids a wii or this peripheral.
Also:
"I think this a really dumb thing to do.. however, as a parent.. i make the choice what comes in my home."
More parents need to think like this. Seriously.
There have been times in our society where learning was a bad and evil thing. Learning about some things is STILL a dangerous thing, yet we continue to thrive as a legion of walking apes. I think humanity will survive despite the demonic power of the Zapper keeping us down.
Nintendo ought to be fined for introducing to 4-9 years old kids a “toy” that promotes guns. The next thing you know they will include an application to the NRA in the game. Who ever thought up this stupid game ought to be fired. I would NEVER purchase a Nintento product for my grandkids from here on…
I think it’s irresponsible for Wii to come out with a controller that looks like a gun so kids can play games simulating shooting. What kind of message are we sending as parents when we buy these things for our kids?
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Have these people never heard of TOY GUNS. I mean seriously. is it not more dangerous to have a plastic gun replica that looks like a geniune gun and the child pointing it at a friend "playing" some game making sound effects? I mean that's what it would be to me.
The simple thought that this is the first time a child has had the chance to use a toy gun is simply unfathomable.
Besides. Only if we become star trek in the future will this kind of toy have any effect on the children.
And in the midst of all this neglectful parent whining, did ANY of them remember that Nintendo put out light guns for both the NES and the SNES? Or is that just one of those minor details?
And I'd like to offer a free cookie to everyone who has mentioned the old nerf guns. :D If those weren't more 'dangerous' then *gasp* a gun with a light sensor, I don't know what is.
And there were gun shaped controllers on arcade machines even before that, Hell, Operation Wolf and T2 The Arcade Game both had controllers actually modeled after a REAL uzi Submachine gun, did anyone bitch about THEM!?!? Hell, there are still arcade machines with realistic gun controllers, yet no one will say a thing, making the arguments these people are putting out entirely moot.
Oh, and did I mention that it came with a gun? The original "Zapper" light gun (I had the gray model) to be exact. I spent many hours playing Duck Hunt and Bayou Billy with thing. Later, on the SNES, I got the gun that came with that system. I also had a Genesis, and their gun...it went with the Terminator 2 game IIRC.
Why do you care? Because I have not shot a gun at a person or animal in my entire life. I also don't own a gun, although I fully support the right to do so...I just don't have one. The Christmas in 1985 didn't make me a gun nut, and Chistmas in 2007 (or whenever it comes out) won't make some other little kid a gun nut.
If only...
So these people are saying that teaching children to aim will turn them into gun-toting criminals?
In that case i do hope they're equally trying to ban ANYTHING that requires aim.
I also wonder how many of the people working themselves into a frenzy over this played with water pistols when they were little, as there is no difference at all.
If anything it will get more young kids to get into gaming and when they grow up they will want a hardcore system and games.
If anything Nin. is setting the stage to make the industry bigger than its ever been. More money equal a greater chance for truly great games
Someone needs to get out more. :\
LOL you said crotchfruit
I find it all the more hilarious that these "concerned parents" were probably the same age as their kids when Nintendo came out with the light gun back in the 80s.
"The next thing you know they will include an application to the NRA in the game. "
Hey, why not? What better way to start your kids off on the foundations of responsible gun ownership than to indoctrinate them into the NRA? They'll probably end up being more aware regarding gun-related violence than their parents.
# 1. The person in that first quote sounds like a soccer mom stereotype.
# 2. "……what’s next? Could we make it squirt blood, too?" I don't understand this. Real guns squirt blood? What?
# 3. There was a gun for the Nintendo Entertainment System over 20 years ago- it came with the system- and as far as I can recall (I was only 2 in 1985, first got an NES in 1990) no one ever complained.
# 4. There is no reason whatsoever for Nintendo to make this. The whole point of the Wiimote is that it can be anything, and using your imagination is part of the fun. There's no need, none whatsoever, to place it a gun-shaped shell.
If you rule out guns from games, let alone popular media, what's next? No King Arthur based cartoons or Robin Hood Disney movies, no learning about human history in school that includes warfare using weapons, likely no silverware on the dinner table, and surely no writing instruments because they are the best weapon one has in an office or classroom besides a monitor. No more keys either, so now the doors are kept locked by robot overlords and computer networks overseas. Oh noes! Please parents, to protect us from the robot overlords do not allow your simpleton neighbors to mash your brains with their nonsense. Thanks.
Uh, I've had a Wii since release, and as far as I can tell, the Wiimote can't do much of anything. Like aim accurately. That console just collects dust.
Oh my god. We have to OUTLAW THE HANDS BEFORE THE CHILDREN START KILLING EACH OTHER!
You know who I feel bad for? The kids of those parents quoted in the first part of the article. I don't think I need to explain why.
The Simpsons showed us exactly what will happen if we go down this path. Alien rulers will invade us and the only way to protect ourselves will be to pry a piece of wood from a nearby fence. A board with a nail in it may be our only salvation.
Parental Guidance,
I have to applaud you on the loaded question you asked yesterday. You really showed how the bias and ignorance of today’s media has really made today’s adults blathering idiots.
I find the question and the responses that you sought to be disgusting. Hyperbole and speculation is not what the news is meant to be. As a news outlet you should actually try to research and share facts with your readers.
Also as a Parental Guidance column, you might want to share some of that ad guide your readers on how to be real parents.
It wasn't Doom. It wasn't Counterstrike. It wasn't SCMRPG.
It was...
...
DUCK HUNT!
DAMN YOU, NINTENDO!! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!!
And when you mention rubber bands, that, of course, brings to mind...
Slingshots.
And, yes, I'm including the plastic toy ones.
Oh, and let's not forget slings (as opposed to the Y shaped slingshots). After reading Dark Tower, I hear that metal ball loaded slings can do some serious harm.
No, no, only video games do. I forgot. Sorry.
Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
...huh? Tell me that whole fining Nintendo part was sarcasm.
It has been longer than 20 years. First video game gun I know of was the Magnavox Odyssey's add-on gun in 1968, which while not very popular showed up in games ever since then. You also have the shooting gallery games after that using similar technology based on the pellet and bb games at amusement parks that Baer drew inspiration from. We've been making a game of shooting at things, and not designating it as an adult game for centuries. Native Americans have been tossing tomahawk axes, spears, knives, and other weapons for sport and training for as long as some of their tribes lived on this continent I imagine. If we suddenly get overrun by wild animals, 9/10 of our current population shits themselves and calls the police and fire department.
@ BlackIce
The second amendment refers to arming a militia technically speaking, used and understood by some to mean we can carry weapons. However, in reality you can neither raise a militia and arm them, nor can you carry a weapon in public except for assorted instances. The constitution gives us the right to bear arms against and overthrow tyranny but as of yet, the nonsense governments in power over the past two hundred plus did not qualify as such somehow. Go figure.
Not bloody likely. I hate Nintendo at about the same level as JT.
Well, almost the same level as JT. Might have something to do with me being knowing a few KGB members back in the day, but we can say I hate JT and Nintendo.
The Dark Tower series is pretty good. Did you read the graphic novel set or the larger length novels? I am waiting impatiently for the graphic novel to inspire an animated feature of the books. Then inspire an online game. I mean, a Stephen King universe rpg/1st person shooter kind of thing would be amazing. Then over time you could integrate or connect other universes together. Mix a Clive Barker world of characters into the dimensions your online characters tread from Stephen King and Roger Zelazny, etc. I would actually play that game online. I don't play any online games now. Not until I get a 360 to play Bomberman Live.
I want to see a game set in the First World War. If we can do that well, it proves that Games can do as well as movies in that degree.
You're still mad about the whole Tetris rights thing with Nintendo yanking the rights out under Atari aren't you? The whole licensing situation was FUBAR. Anyone who is not sure what I speak of, check online for the documentary from the BBC. Great stuff.
As much as I hate the stupid add-ons, some idiot will feel happier holding it with it on since it "simulates" the feel.
I think every damn child in school used the rubber band gun hand thing as well. Maybe this person will be happier when they end up in the grave for worrying over nothing.
It's not that. Those bastards think all gamers are 5 years old. Why the hell do you think they come out with crap like Cooking mama? And the Wii for that matter.
Age 5 by a retired Baltimore City Police Officer
First Gun Owned:
Age 11, left to me by my grandfather
Number of guns owned at age 30:
4
Number of times those guns have been pointed at a living creature:
0
I enjoy target shooting and trap.
I think the NRA is possibly the worst managed special interest group after the Pro-Tobacco and alcohol lobbies and am hence not a member.
My children will get the same lessons with firearms that I got. They will be taught that it is OK to play gun games in the arcades or at home. I will probably even let them play paintball.
This isn't a "murder simulator" we're talking about. For many people, it is an inexpensive way to enjoy an expensive hobby. Gotcha! the Sport and Hogan's Alley were two of my favorite NES games and I could afford to play them, but couldn't afford to go to the gun range when I was a kid.
@ Black Ice
The second amendment is a wonderful privilege that many people abuse. This isn't about the second amendment. Nintendo has done nothing wrong.
Why hasn't Spielberg been vilified for Medal of Honor. Why are Call of Duty and Brothers in Arms widely lauded from all sides of the fence. We're talking about the same thing.
Five bucks says you played Cowboys and Indians or some such simulated gun game growing up.
Leave people that want to pretend to be SWAT officers in Virtua Cop or Army Commandos in Ghost Squad alone. They aren't training to shoot people. People that know how to handle guns know that they don't work like the do in video games and enjoy the fiction for what it is.
Ohhh, so it's the whole "only M Rated games are cool" demographic, is it?
They don't think that. They don't make many games like that any more. Most anything else is just some 3rd party adaptation of a cartoon that's multiplatform or something.
And come on, the name of the system? Um.... get the crap over it? It's not like people are gonna laugh at you over the name of a freaking system you own.
And lay off on the language, man, it's not making you look any more mature.
uh.. you do know that nintendo didn't make cooking mama, right?
Didn't say they made it. It's on their console, so they knew about it.
Metroid Prime. Super Smash Bros. Resident Evil series (ported, but so what, it's still there). Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem. Legend of Zelda. Castlevania series. Need I go on? Wow, that five-year-old has some serious skill, cause I don't know any five year olds who can get through games like that by themselves.
He had a great thing going with Dark Tower... until he got hit by the van. Then he realized his mortality and rushed the rest. I think it was those long stretches that helped the first 4 novels really be what they were.
I listened to the full, unabridged/uncondensed versions of the written novels. If he ever does decide to let this be a series of movies, I'm afraid it's gonna get butchered like Needful Things was.
I love RPGs, just not a big MMO or FPS fan. But a Stephen King-esque RPG, with multiple stories, linked with a Dark Conspiracy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Conspiracy ) type connection would be cool. Especially if you had a series of games each containing several big stories.
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