@ Tristram

Since being told their goals are unconstitutional certainly hasn't stopped them, I doubt this will have any impact at all on the anti-game community. Crusaders (people who fight because of faith) don't need evidence to support them, they don't listen to evidence against their convictions, they just believe in their viewpoint, and fight for total victory.

Go back in the GP archives and listen to Yee's interview on court TV. He can't argue against the unconstitutional nature of his legislation -- all he can do is claim there is evidence that supports his belief that violent games hurt children.

So no, I don't think anything, not even a study proving there is no connection between gaming and violence, would change their outlook.

@ Gameboy

>This wouldn’t excuse their actions, but would explain them.

Such an important notion that so many people overlook.

Excuses come in two flavors: reasons, and justifications. Nothing will justify what Moore did, but I understand the public's desire to find a reason for it.

That reason, quite obviously, isn't video games, but the more tangible the scapegoat, the more comforting the general populace finds it. "Oh, so THAT'S what made him do it. Now I know and I feel better. Thanks, media!"

I find it funny that this self proclaimed "warrior of God" is defending a murderer.

Mr. Thompson, those books have nothing to do with the subject.

And you're saying that despite abuse, Moore would be a perfectly sensible human being if it weren't for video games.

Get your head out of your ass and quit making up your own facts, you deluded loony.

Nevermind that in the end im not sure how being abused as a child is at all any sort of excuse for going out and commiting murder. Maybe if he went and killed one of his abusers but no, he killed some cops. He has absolutely no excuse for his actions even if his father did the most vile things to him.

i would posit a theory that violent, disturbed people will go to great lengths to expose themselves to as much violence, even if fantasy, as possible.

it is more likely he played GTA because he was broken than he broke because he played GTA.

@Tristram

"If JT really believed what he believes"

Oh, he really does seem to, doesn't he?

To Jack, for when you eventually show up: we know you don't. We know the only reason you do what you do is for fame. And you're not talented enough for doing anything other than the role of a sick and twisted "moral crusader."

hats off to the author of that article.

Devin Moore is nothing more than a crybaby and a liar trying to get away with murder.

His argument about not getting a fair trial has no merit, considering that his defense attorney could have filed a motion for a change of venue.

Moore(and Jacky Boy and Standridge) lied about the comment Moore alledgedly made at the time of his arrest:

When Moore was arrested, it was stated he made the comment, “Everybody has got to die sometime.” This was later amended in December 2004 during a motion hearing claiming the statement was, “Life’s a video game. You’ve got to die sometimes.”

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Moore always got into trouble wherever he went:

In an earlier interview, Thompson’s(Devin Moore) father, Kenneth Moore and Fayette County High School Principal Radford Hester told The Tuscaloosa News the teen had many discipline problems at home and school.

Kenneth Moore describes his son as someone who loved trouble, stealing cars and dabbling in drugs.

“He was a good kid to people in town, but as soon as you get to know him he would change for worse,” Kenneth Moore said.
http://cathodetan.blogspot.com/2005/06/what-they-arent-saying.html
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Devin Moore may even be lying about his alledged abuse:

Story from 2003 at the time of the arrest:
http://www.tremcopoliceproducts.com/fayette.htm
Moore’s father told The AP that his son was a troubled young man.

“I kept telling people about it, going to the church and telling people he was a troubled child, but people didn’t pay me no mind,” he said. “I raised him from a baby, but people don’t listen.”

Kenneth Moore said he sent his son to live with the young man’s mother two years ago because he couldn’t control him. He said that his son would often steal his car and that last year his mother found a gun in the house belonging to him.

“I’m a discipline parent and everybody around town knows I’m a good parent,” Moore said. “One parent can’t do it all by himself.”

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Devin Moore was stealing cars and getting himself into trouble long before GTA3 was even released, thus making the so-called "video game defense" completely NULL and VOID.

@ Cullarn

Pun intended?

But seriously...lets cut the kid a break. He obviously has mental issues and he is going to die for it.

@Tristram

With all due respect Tristram that's part of the problem. As a society we keep being told to "cut someone a break". We keep excusing bad behaviour with lines like "they were abused" or "they're a minority and felt like they had no hope" or my personal favorite "he went insane for a moment and couldn't help it." We have to stop this. Excusing behaviour doesn't help to protect society.

Instead those criminals that can be rehabilitated should be, but it also needs to be understood that prisons are a punishment. It also needs to be made clear that, as a society, there are certain behaviours that we're not going to excuse.

@bayushisan

I just meant from the name calling.

"The notion that the courts should take into account whether someone was exposed to violent video games as a reason for that person murdering someone has no real place in the criminal judicial process…"


this article is absolutely right. the fact is, that common sense tells us that everyone has been exposed to violent media one way or another, it is inevitable.

Devin moore did not commit the crimes he comitted because he was playing GTA. Moore was not "driven to kill" as his lawyer has so nicely put it. Moore chose to do what he did, Videogames will have the same effect on the brain as playing a violent real game like football. Thompson will most likely try to use the brain scan study as a way of saying that moore couldn't help himself, but that's just information that is not in context. you have to look at it compared to other activites that are similar, but still diffferent (real life sports for example) and if the brain scans show the same, well, that point is then SOL and JWF (s*** outta luck and Jolly well F*****)

and other than that, there really is no proof that can be supported that proves videogames cause people to commit violent acts. Violent people just like videogames already.

Bravo for the legal system, I was wondering if they were gonna let this bs continue. As per the comments concerning JT believing his own crap, I believe he does, regardless of how unbelievable I find that myself. How else could his actions be explained if you consider that most intelligent people think he's an idiot, he may be disbarred soon, hes been thrown off of legal teams in video game cases, anti-video game legislature has been shot down left and right, and hes even stooped as low as using his son to attempt some weird form of entrapment that has no legal bearing anyway.

I agree with most of what is said in the article, especially the line: "The bottom line is that millions of people, young and old, choose to watch violent movies and play violent video games and never harm anyone because of it."

However, one or two statements by the writer irked me a little.

"Frankly, we do believe that a case can be made that exposure to graphic, fictional violence contributes to the acceptance of such violence by some people. We suspect that it can desensitize some people to the effects of violence."

I suppose he covers his bases here by referring to "some people" instead of making a blanket statement that fictional violence makes every accpt violence in real life. I suspect he is referring to people who are already predisposed to violence, but if a person is like that already, violent imagery or no, they are going to act that way! Blaming violent imagery for the actions of already violent people is folly I believe.

"But that is a reason to argue for minimizing such graphic violence in video games, television, movies and music, not for allowing it as an excuse for murder."

Again, violent people are going to be violent no matter what happens. They don't need to see Reservoir Dogs, play GTA or read Stephen King novels to act that way. Some people will get violent if you cut them off in traffic, or if they lose their place in a queue.

"Consumer groups should campaign to minimize violent content in movies, games and music, especially when they are aimed at youth. But those arguments belong in the court of public opinion"

No-one should campaign for anything like this. First of all, movies/music/games that contain or refer to real life violence (as opposed to Star Wars style or cartoon unrealistic action) are intended fo adults/mature teens and are NOT marketed to youth. If young people find out about them, that may be unavoidable, but can anyone remember the last time a movie trailer for a horror film contained a line like "In theaters May 2007, bring your children!" Or an ad for a game like The Suffering with a tagline "Fun for all the family".

Now, if the writer had said "Consumer groups should campaign to minimize violent content in movies, games and music WHEN they are aimed at youth" then I would agree. But he only says "especially" when aimed at youth. This means that groups campaigning to minimize violent content is something that should happen regardless!

This is something that should never happen. Does he believe people should start petitioning Stephen King to not have as much blood or horror in his novels? Or ask that developers make the next Call of Duty or Medal of Honour game to have you hug your enemies into submission? The second you start campaigning to change the content of any creation, is the second that you begin infringing on others' first amendment rights. They have a right to create their constitutionally protected rights, and we as consumers have a right to purchase and enjoy these works.

@Shoehorn O'Plenty

It's spelled: Medal of Honor. Bloody American spelling. We'll call it Medal of Honour if we sodding want!

unfortunately for all of you here, Malcolm Gladwell has written a best-selling book called Blink (he authored the #1 New York Times national bestseller The Tipping Point, and Gladwell proves the relevance of video game violence to these types of murderous acts. Sorry, expertise trumps video gamer and Alabama newspaper editorial bull. Jack Thompson

Also Jack, why the hell are you defending a murderer?

@VenomandCarnage
Because he's got Narcissistic Personality disorder. You see, it doesn't matter who he helps. As long as HIS agenda is furthered, fuck the rest of us.

Jack, I sometimes find it hard to believe even you cannot possibly be so dense as to not realize that you are condoning murder. You're essentiall helping to give people a way out of the death sentence or other such punishments for taking another person's life. Your idiotic "crusade" not only insults the entire ciminal justice system, but it insults the families and friends of those who have lost loved ones to people like Moore.

Tell me Jack, have you, for example, phoned any of the families of he 9/11 victims and told them how the hijackers "trained" on Microsoft's Flight Simulator? How about the families of the V-Tech students Cho Seung Hui killed? Did you tell them about his supposed obession with Counter-Strike? I'll bet you haven't, and it's because you know you have nothing to stand on but your unnamed "experts" and flawed studies. Just give up, you're fighting a battle that can only end in your humiliation and disbarrment.

"the trial judge improperly excluded evidence of the defendant’s post traumatic stress disorder, exacerbated by the games, which the brain scan studies at Harvard show occurs."

Just the other day, you referred to people at Harvard as "leftwing extremists", now all of a sudden they are back to being credible again? (exact quote: "Dennis, when you figure out what this societal debate is about regarding video games, and that it’s not going to be decided by leftwing extremists at Harvard ... ") Which one is it?

"unfortunately for all of you here, Malcolm Gladwell has written a best-selling book called Blink"

I think I'm not the only one here when I ask this, but who the hell is Malcolm Gladwell? Just because "Joe Shmoe" wrote a book doesn't give validity to his and your claims. This is the same tactic that one idiot, ex-Lt. Col. Dave Grossman tries to pull on people- that his book was nominated for a Pulitzer, and so that would automatically validate all of his claims. Wrong. Numerous works of fraud have been nominated (and even won) Pulitzers.

I also find it quite ironic that Thompson seems to bring up the video game defense in this case, yet refuses to explain how Moore's father stated Moore was stealing cars, getting into trouble, and doing drugs BEFORE the Grand Theft Auto games were released.

But what do you expect? When idiots like Thompson are caught in their web of lies, they just ignore the valid claims made by individuals, just to keep their propaganda going. Just look at the VTech incident.

@GP:

Awesome catch on belgium, Dennis. Not only can't this man read violence studies or Bar complaints, he can't even decipher a map!

You earn 100 points and a cookie. go you. (I swear I'll quit awarding cookies, eventually)

There are many people who have had abusive/terrible childhoods AND played games and turned out fine. I know a few myself.

Moore chose to do what he did, and since he did something so terrible without a second thought, he should at least have the balls to man up to what he did and face his rightful punishment.

@BlackIce, Leftie
Man, I just got my sandwich for lunch, sat down, went gamepolitics, and lo and behold, Jack Thompson had to say some more retarded bullshit. So I came in to debunk it.

@Austin Lewis

I see.

By the way, I answered you question on the first article about the "Cop Killer"

Continued from Jabrwock's post:

That and for you to be acting under anyone else's judgement is so bloody stupid it makes JT look smart..

@Tenshigami

Warrior doesn't rhyme with Lawyer..

Can we throw in a Prison sentence for being an arrogent fuck who doesn't know when to piss off and die?

You know, I do wonder what will happen if Jack Thompson's license to practice law is revoked. He'll likely become even more vocal on websites like this, proclaiming things like "just because I'm not a lawyer anymore doesn't mean I can't crusade against games" or something.

I don't imagine that such a delusional man would do that if it came down to it.

@GP

Man Dennis, I don't how you deal with this guy - what a douche. I for one would be hard-pressed to not use the banhammer on his crazy-lawyer-butt. What's incredibly ironic, is despite all the insults and venom he spits at you, he still 1-Sends you regular information, 2-Hits the site on a daily basis.

jadedcritic, Jack Thompson reminds me of one of my psycho bitch ex girlfriends. Despite numerous claims to hating me, she continually stalked my every move and spat venom whenever I did something she didn't like. It's obsessive behavior that commonly associated with narcissism, as well.

On a more serious note (GP needs an edit function), why am I hearing conflicting reports on Moore's parents? Were these 'bleach baths' actually true or is it more spiel to make Moore look like the innocent victim of society?

"Moore’s father would beat him and put him into tubs of chlorine bleach. he had post traumatic stress disorder from this"

So are you going to sue the bleach industry next?

jadedcritic: Typical Internet Troll behavior

John Bruce 'Jack' Thompson (Internet Troll and you're not) is at his most effective when he is trolling internet forums. It's what makes him feel important these days.

Think about it. He hasn't had a single success in his campaign to legislate the sale of video games to minors, he hasn't had a single success in preventing a game from being released, and his record in court would make Lionel Hutz from the Simpsons look like F. Lee Bailey. (RIP Phil Hartman)

His greatest success in life is getting a bunch of people he doesn't like to respond to his posts on internet forums.

How sad is that?

"Moore’s father would beat him and put him into tubs of chlorine bleach. he had post traumatic stress disorder from this, and the hard science shows that the violence in the games feed into this."

Please explain how being brutalized in that fasion as a child and playing video games with gun violence as an adult are even remotely related.

@ Dog_Welder

You're wrong. Abraham Lincoln is not dead. It was a coverup as he launched his conspiracy with the video game industry to discredit Jack Thompson and take away his constitutional right to petition the government.

I call shenanigans on JT!

1. Blame video games and gay people for all world problems

2. ???

3. Profit!

--
One day there will be a video game where you play a homosexual that kills lawyers. On that day I will chuckle.

I'm just shocked that Thompson took so long to respond to this story. He's typically the first person to respond to any article with his name in it, which demonstrates how much free time he really has and how obsessed he is with this site.

There goes Jack, "defending cops" by defending cop killers.

Yeah.. which is suprising since they're one of the few countries in Europe that can stand the Americans. Strange enough since they owe you guys big time..

@Automancer

In defense of the devil - I'm not 100% myself - I'm thinking eastern europe - (looks it up) - o, see there? I got it wrong = (
Should've known better - I thought I remembered something about Belgium and Market Garden during WW2, I just couldn't nail it down.

@ Ashton

Forgot to mention, on the upside since he'll no longer be a lawyer, and therefore cannot be considered a professional of any kind, he will cease to appear on any more news media outlets and will also no longer be able to take advantage of his porfession and use the law like a blunt instrument as he has so often done.

On the other hand, I still see him as maybe turning around and becoming a minister or at least touring various churches to practice his demagoguery to anyone gullible enough to listen.

@JT - LETS GIVE IT UP! For another round of "somebody said something, so it's undeniable proof!"

Get real, Jack. Grow up and get a life, or retire like the old fart you are. You just don't get it. How sad.

Too bad Jack Thompson isnt a student.

I wanna be the UPD and taser the shit out of him.

@MG

That's pretty much the world through JT's eyes.

MG: no... LOL.... that's... *giggle* his "argument" ... LMAO. Again, best of luck in court with that Jack, try not to get laughed out of court too hard. :D

Very nice article, thanks for the info Dennis, the guy who wrote that news paper article deserves a cookie ;) .

Thompson's obviously not going to explain why he's defending a murderer, but it's clearly because Devin Moore is fuel for the anti-game machine, nothing more. Jackie doesn't care about any other issue here; all he sees is an opportunity to say "games are bad". Stepping in a killer's corner? Blah, games are bad.

Having a father that beats you and puts you into tubs of chlorine bleach isn't going to cause post traumatic stress disorder(at least not on it's own), and that's not a valid reason to explain the murders he commited.

also: how the hell is a book any level of "expertise" ? it's not any level of expertise. sorry, you fail

Yeah, I love how Thompson claims a book accurately proves his point here. Hey, just like "Out of Harm's Way"!

@AgnostoTheo

Yes. Last I heard. I remember reading an article that stated he was such. However, I don't remember the article off hand. Sorry. If anyone has anything to confirm/dispute this, would be appreciated.

But, bottom line, he's a religious leader. Scary as it sounds.

Jack Thompson said:
of course, you all would know this if dennis mccauley were a real journalist and would talk to people other than industry hacks.

Haven't you tired of being proven wrong by Dennis? He covers things fairly evenly, as evidenced EVERY TIME you make this claim. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

You always say "if Dennis Mccauley were a real journalist..." and he comes back proving you wrong, that he HAS covered the issues you blather on about. Moreover, he has evidence of such. EVERY. TIME.

You say you're today's Nostradomus, but you're really just a pathetic old man whose mental capacity doesn't allow him to...

... remember when you've been refuted.
... remember who you've threatened to sue.
... understand the difference between causation and correlation.
... apologize when you've been proven wrong.
... understand the difference between cordial and impolite conversation.
... understand that most gamers aren't kids (certainly most of us here aren't)
... pass the BAR without taking it a bazillion times.
... realize that your supposed "successes" haven't really been successes at all.
... understand that games are protected by the 1st amendment... and the 14th.

....... I could go on, but I think that's enough for now. Bottom line is that you're just pathetic, JT, and while you waste your time and taxpayer dollars on your rediculous crusade, the world and your family are leaving you behind.

Oh, just because I can... add onto that list above:

... use idioms and quotations correctly. Specifically, I'm referring to JT's misuse of Shakespear and the "Too clever by half" quote. If you're giong to use them, understand them. Maybe read some Shakespear and understand the context in which it is written beore you try to use the quotes - you merely embarass yourself otherwise.

... realize that being on television doesn't make you an expert, nor does it make you correct. It merely allows you to make a fool of yourself infront of a millions. I suppose that's a form of fame...

Mnementh2230 Says:
"you’re (Jack Thompson_ really just a pathetic old man whose mental capacity doesn’t allow him to... pass the BAR without taking it a bazillion times."

It's actually pretty pathetic he had trouble passing it, if he, as his well compensated therapist claims, is very intelligent. Frank Abagnale (Catch Me If You Can) passed the BAR on his third try, without even graduating high school, at the age of 19 after he studied for a few weeks. Tucker Max (of the website tuckermax.com, probably not a suitable site for children or prudes) passed in on his first try and had good grades at Duke, despite, according to him, never going to class and spending his a semester living in Cancun while still enrolled. Both of these men are pretty smart, but passed it with little effort, so if someone capable of tying their shoelaces and with a coherent grasp of the English language studied diligently at any law school and took the BAR, they should be able to pass it.

I just had a terrible thought.

I hope Jack Thompson doesn't get disbarred.

Just think what would happen if someone competent took his place.

@Jack Thompson

You lost this war, you lost that case when you were kicked off, GET OVER IT ALREADY!!!

Also, how dare you, HOW DARE YOU trivialize the experiences soldiers who go through ACTUAL have to deal with. You are NOT a soldier, you are NOT a christian, you are NOT sane, YOU AREN'T A POOR EXAMPLE OF A BASIC HUMAN BEING!!!

If there is a god, he must be shaking his head at you.

wow.. let the flames begin...

You know, no matter what made him do it... Games, music, TV, mom's bad mashed potatoes... he did it.

In my house extenuating circumstances only work for accidents... he didn't accidentally do it.. or it would be manslaughter.

I'm all about ensuring justice is both blind and open to new information.. but dude's as guilty as can be... he's just spending the states money,a dn getting a day out of the jail, to be in court... changin his view...

Well thats my take...in a few years the ACLU will come a protesting, with 10000 people, saying "set my people free" and the court will fold... and justice, such as it is, will be served for a few, and the rest of us will pay for it.. the american dream, kill people and then find an excuse thats "plausable" and get out of jail for an appeal.

as for what constitutes a "BASIC HUMAN BEING" Pride is a sin, remember your no better than you fellow human beings, and pointing fingers down at the rest of us is well... you know.

Help you fellow man, forgive each other, forget revenge, and extend peace to those you dont agree with...

then brak out Halo 3 and go fraggin together! :)

Peace out

I think I may use the GTA case to kill this guy. But, but, but GTA made me do it! The most retarded "defense" ever.

*cough*Twinkies case*cough*

@Mnementh2230:

Oooh, good list. Sums it up nicely.

Sorry, "better" examples...damn no edit

@daniel3:

"pps: just because something is a best seller doesn’t mean that it’s a credible source of information."

Besides, the only "Out of Harm's Way" on the bestseller list is written by a female.

jack's predicting things is kind of like the doomsday predictions. you know the type "the world is going to end on *insert date here*" and then when the day rolls around the just say i wasnt the *insert same date here* they ment (even though they did)

its easy to predict something as long as your vauge enough (fortune cookie anyone?)

now on to the story im thinking the GTA made me do it holds as much water as a bowl with only rim and nothing else (Heres what the image you get hopefully looks like \ / if you still dont get it no bottom = no water held, but you probably got if and are reading this to humor me... or not lose your spot by skipping forward). Devin Moore will (like many people) not accept responcibility for what he did as long as he has a way to scapegoat it onto something/someone else (almost like jack never did anything wrong thompson p.s. hubris/arrogence is the one of devils favorite sins jack) its part of the human condition. sure Devin's life might have been crappy but saying ive had a crappy time life =/= oh sorry your pardoned he made the choice to grab the gun and to shoot. If some of what his parents said is to be believed (they raised him after all and i'd take a parents word over the word of the child but both with a grain of salt) he's gotten away with lots by not accepting his actions for quite a while so why should he start now.

In closeing he can appeal as much as he would like to but somehow I think the evedence is against him on this.

(seriously if having a crappy/f***'ed up life (so far) ='ed pardon from killing officers of the law what would you be able to get away with on a bad day? anyone?)

It is one thing to say that video games contribute to violent crime. It's stupid and supported by no actual facts, but it's not horrible.

It is quite another thing to say that video games contribute so much to violent crime that having played video games should change the sentence. That's just insane.

@ Jack Thompson

Moore’s father would beat him and put him into tubs of chlorine bleach.

That claim is coming from a person who:

-at the time, was facing a possible death sentence if found guilty(which turned out to be the case; Moore is now on death row and deservedly so).
-lived with his mother for two years before he willingly committed his crime, because his father sent him there since the father couldn't control Moore, since Moore continually stole his car(and all of this was before GTA3 was even released)

If Moore's claim was true, he would have to had shown the court at least some scars from chemical burns on him from the bleach.

And if Moore's claims had any accuracy to them, you would think that Moore would have shown some remorse for his actions. Well' he didn't:

Austin Lewis: I watched, on TV, as he looked at the camera walking into the courthouse and said that he did it and if he could he would do it again.

That right there shows that Devin Moore is a liar and nothing more than a cold-blooded murderer.

I've always said that Devin Moore's "Video game defense" had no merit, as it is/was no different than Lionel Tate's "wrestling defense"(a case even you, Jack, should have some familiarity with, as that happened in your neck of the woods).

Lionel Tate showed no remorse for murdering a 6-year-old girl half his size, actually having the gall to ask her mother if he could have her toys.

The only difference between the two, however, is that Tate was actually had enough of a brain in him to drop his failed "wrestling defense" in his appeal. Then again, he would turn around and violate his parole by robbing a pizza deliveryman.

So, I've been playing dynasty warriors for the last few days and MAN do I have this urge to go unite china...

The thing about Jack Thompson is he was participating in suing him on the case where they are also suing Sony for corrupting his mind, which is hypocritical since supposedly if video games can make people into killers then Moore is innocent. Err, if Thompson wasn't participating in Strickland v. Sony, then the case was still hypocritical, since for them to be able to blame Sony would make Moore blameless, and vice versa.

@Jay:

Of all the intelligent things said in this thread (none of which were made by Thompson himself, not coincidentally) that one nails it on the head, I think.

In regards to the main story:

When it all comes down the nitty gritty, as it were, Moore PULLED THE TRIGGER, not GTA, or any other video games, no matter how much 'voodoo' they have that makes people kill... It's as the report says, millions watch violent media and come out of the experience perfectly fine, with no new violent persuasions or what have you.

And in regards to JT:

Why don't we try ingoring him next time, no matter how wrong, misguided, arrogant, geographically ignorant, self serving or smug he is?

I love it. Jack's "proof" of how evil we are isn't "proof" at all. Oh Jack, you just shot yourself in the foot, boyo.

Of course, as others have noted, you'll ignore this comment, as well as the others (which contained much more information than my own) which disprove your point. Because you need to feel strong.

And to Black Manta,

Thompson isn't the first gimp I've run into with a huge chip on his shoulder. He goes up against gamers because he saw us as incapable of fighting back, believing us to all be children. That's right, he wanted to push kids around.

When we started to push back? He panicked, and saw no way to get out of it. So he continued to push against gaming, to the point where he has actually destroyed his own career. If he had've used the brain he thinks he has, he never would have pushed the buttons he pushed, and used the tactics he thought he could use and get away with.

What's even worse than this is, he won't let himself see it, not until everything has come down crumbling on top of his head. And perhaps not even then. It's... well, it's sad is what it is. As much as I don't like the guy, seeing anyone destroy themselves isn't pleasant.

Should be interesting to see how it plays out from today. It's the deadline, remember? Wonder if Jack's jumping up and down yet.

Lose-Lose? No. No one ever lost to Jack Thompson.

@Grombar

No, not that we lost TO JT, but that we must suffer by witnessing more of his idiocy, which is a loss of time and very likely brain cells that commit suicide rather than imprint such inanity.

I still say that game's aren't in trouble even if the world should turn upside down on its axis and permit acceptance of the BS claims that playing GTA resulted in Moore's actions. Just show the judge that GTA punishes cop-killing, which is a choice of the player, and that it doesn't MAKE people kill even virtual police, hence couldn't possibly make them kill real police.

Basically, even if the laughable claim that he "trained" on GTA is accepted, then it would just become apparent that Moore first chose to kill virtual cops and then chose to kill real police officers, both choices made by him with no compulsion by any game.

Bandwagon jumper looking for an excuse.