Jack Thompson Seeks to Have Halo 3 Declared a Public Nuisance in Florida

September 21, 2007 -
With the video game event of the year - the Halo 3 launch - just days away, game-hatin' attorney Jack Thompson is apparently seeking to re-create one of his greatest non-triumphs.

Although he failed miserably with a similar bid against Rockstar's Bully in 2006, Thompson hopes to have a Florida court declare Halo 3 a public nuisance. He promised as much late last year (see: Jack Thompson Vows More Public Nuisance Suits Against Games in 2007).

No surprise, really, that Halo 3 is in the media-hungry attorney's crosshairs. Thompson seems to prefer rattling his saber when high-profile game releases are involved. In his latest attention grab Thompson has released the text of what appears to be a court filing in the 11th Circuit, the same jurisdiction in which he failed embarrassingly during last year's Bully case.

Once again, Thompson is basing his claim on a Florida statute which defines public nuisances as that which:
...tend[s] to annoy the community, injure the health of the citizens in general, or corrupt the public morals

To get an idea of what the public nuisance law was really designed for, the types of places named in the statute include:
...any house or place of prostitution, assignation, lewdness or place or building where games of chance [i.e., gambling] are engaged in violation of law or any place where any law of the state is violated, shall be deemed guilty of maintaining a nuisance...

GP: Not a video game retailer in the bunch.

As with Bully, Thompson clearly hopes the court will grant him a hearing. Although after last year's well-publicized Bully performance, which earned Thompson a Bar complaint from presiding Judge Ronald Friedman, that seems unlikely.

More troubling by far are the long term implications of this action. Thompson apparently feels emboldened to invoke Florida's public nuisance law against any video game he desires to target. That is the essence of censorship and the video game industry cannot allow it to continue on any number of grounds - legal, moral or creative.

The full text of Thompson's complaint is here (MS Word format)...

Comments

*legal weight...

I hate when I think faster than I type.

holy shit, holy shit, This is the end game gents.

@Blackwolf:

LOL... with the way HALO 3 advertising is everywhere (I hear they're even teaming up with BK, as well as a NASCAR sponsor.) so maybe it is kind of a nuisance.

I suppose Jack's just as bored as we are waiting for the November funeral for his career.

I hope this news catches Bill Gates in a spiteful sort of mood.

I predict...


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This is nothing. Jack's case has even less merit than before. It'll be dismissed in days, and he can go back to spending his ample spare time trolling this site due to a lack of work.

How does picking a different game for the same lawsuit make it any more probable that it will succede? I am just totally floored that ANY ONE can take this guy seriously.

this dude is seriously jacked up in the wacko box.

Wow...he must have nothing better to do, if he's going after a game that comes out in less than a week.

Woohoo PR suicide!~

Steven Byers, formerly Novacat

If Jack Thompson really wanted to change society for the better, he would file a court injunction to ban all the 12-year-old brats from playing Halo 3 on Xbox Live. My god, those idiots are freaking annoying.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Aha...aha

ow my lungs hurt

i think jack thompson should be listed as an official side-effect warning by the government for people who stop taking their perscription anti-depressants and crazy pills suddenly.

You know that song 'Windmills of your Mind?'


"Round like a circle in a spiral
Like a wheel within a wheel
Never ending or beginning
On an ever-spinning reel
Like a snowball down a mountain
Or a carnival balloon
Like a carousel that's turning
Running rings around the moon......"

I think covered my thoughts on this.

This isn't even funny anymore, this is psychotic. Someone please toss him in a rubber room and get him the help he desperately needs.

A PUBLIC NUISANCE:

1)…tend[s] to annoy the community,
Hell yes

2)injure the health of the citizens in general,
Am I the only one whose smacked their heads trying to grasp his idiocy?

3)or corrupt the public morals
F*CK yes, every word out of his mouth is either hatepreaching or corruption of christian morals to suit his ego and agenda


Ladies and gentlemen get a lawyer, because we have a better case than him on this.

*I've covered my thoughts

*desperately wants an edit buton*

Maybe it's been said a crap-ton of times in the old Bully discussions, but can someone try to declare Jack thompson as a public nuisance? Sure, he may not necessarily fit the legal definition, but damned if he doesn't fit the common sense definition.

And it seems that I'm just three posts late to saying so.

Before Jack catches wind of this and starts posting, I just want to point something out.

Dennis has done a fine job here. He has made the entire document for the filing available, outlined the Public Nuisance law and what it is commonly used for, and has not degraded to petty name-calling. In short, his article is professionally written and not slighting anybody.

I just want to get that out of the way before Jack shows up and starts screaming that Dennis did it wrong, or something.

Dennis, this has to stop.

you made soda shoot out of my nose i laughed so hard.
seriously, think of the sinuses.

@Oni

nice prempt, though no one listens to jack anyway.

Dennis does a good job of covering stories in an informative and impartial manner, Ive only seen the odd comment in reference to jack that is neither abusive or stated as anything other than journalistic commentary.

Keep on truckin dennis!

@Pirra:

"In other news, the sun rose in the east this morning."

Let me start this by saying that Jack Thompson is an insufferable fool.

That being said, he has an unfortunate point about the sale of the game to minors. However, outlawing the game in the state isn't even close to a reasonable or fair restriction.

A solution that Jack might actually succeed with would be to license retailers to sell mature games much like state liquor boards license point-of-sale distributors of alcohol. Give them a license, run inspections much like Jack has with his son every once in a while, and if an individual store fails, give them a warning, cite them, and eventually remove their license to sell mature games.

It's relatively (though not entirely) effective for alcohol. The only major hurdle he would have there is getting Mature-rated (noting of course that ratings are voluntary) games to be labeled as a controlled substance.

But, since in all of his career, Jack Thompson has yet to do anything even mildly intelligent, I think we're going to watch him bash his head into the epic wall that is Halo 3.

Sometimes I want to root for Jack Thompson.

He's like that crazy hobo screaming about the end of times that you feel compelled to buy a sandwich for.

He's never won and he'll never win with gaming, so instead of getting defensive, let's just sit back and enjoy all the nonsense.

@Oni

Oh, Dennis certainly does do an excellent job, but according to Jack, unless you print his version of the facts, you aren't a journalist, or unless you got on TV, even so,he tried to get Dennis fired, twice, from two different papers, and there's the fact that anything linking to Jack's legal documents in his mind lead to porn sites is my guess.

As for my thoughts... *wipes blood form his forehead from ramming it into the wall* Is Thompson so masochistic as to want to get financially curb stomped by Microsoft. Wonderful logic, he couldn't stop a game that took place in a somewhat realistic setting, so he'll take on a game that takes place in locales that don't exist, AKA FICTION!!!!

It's official, Jack's psyche evaluation was completely and utterly biased, or he lied on it, to both. Personally. I'm betting on both, otherwise he wouldn't be so afraid of the BAR imposed evaluation, IE trying all he can to avoid it and push his hearing back.

my name is billy.

Go Jack Go!

Jack a piece of advise if I may. You might want to do this early than the weekend before a game comes out. Cause I'm sure at this point in time the game has already left the warehouse and is on its way to the stores. A game like Halo 3 already has millions of pre-orders. By the time the court actually hears your case it will be too late as the game will be in the hands of all the fans of this game. Thanks for the entertainment though.

@Seany-boy

so you're ok with the government regulating what you can and cannot play?

who do you think runs the MPAA?

You know what Jack(attorney and you're not)'s problem is? He has too many allies.

You see, after utterly destroying of 2LiveCrew, Howard Stern, Janet Reno, Take Two, Sony, Midway Games, Rockstar, The Florida Bar, gays, and the two guys who made counter-strike in their basement, the entire American public rallied behind Jack(attorney and you're not) as our savior. He prevented our children from spiraling down into the cesspool of moral debauchery known only as 'rampant-video-game-trained-and-copycatted-mass-killings'.

After burying all the foul sources of corruption who were foolish enough to stand against him, Jack(attorney and you're not) was left with nothing but the adoring masses and no one to left to challenge his insuppressible legal prowess.

So what was Jack(attorney and you're not)'s next logical move? Simple. To take on the only breeding ground of pixelated evil left, THE corporation of all corporations - MICROSOFT! Yes that's right, Jack(attorney and you're not)'s next move is to siege the last remaining bastion of virtual evil.

The battle will long and bloody to be sure, but with the support of the adoring public, the sharpest legal minds in the country (next to him of course) and most importantly the divine blessing of the one true God of one true Gods, our Hero(attorney and you're not) will once again emerge triumphant against SATANSOFT and their ordnance of murder simulators.

Amen.

@Seany-boy

Anything other than a complete and utter ban on M rated games is an unacceptable compromise.

@kurisu7885

In Jack's opinion, or your own?

@Seany-boy

I meant to say in his twisted little mind. I'm perfectly ok with M rated games and even AO rated, despite that their aren't any, so long as games such as that do not wind up in the hands of those who shouldn't play them.

@Booya

Ok, I know I am seeing the humor in your post, but I need ot be sure, sarcasm?

@kurisu7885

Valiant point. I agree. The vast majority of Jack's attempts have not been to stop vendors from selling the game from minors, but to in fact stop the game from being distributed at all, stating that the irresponsibility of the vendors is too great to allow them to inadvertently or irresponsibly sell the game to minors.

I wonder what Jack's view are on parents who buy this mature rated game for their own children? Should their children be placed into protective custody?

@Chuma

Well, since he'd have to spend money to keep his lawsuit crusade going, he might back down, and at worst, have all the bark, and even less bite than now

I doubt it though, he's too much of an imbecile to get when he's been beaten it seems.

ya, what's funny, my friend is the manager at our local movie gallery (think blockbuster). I went in today to rent eternal sonata to tide me over till tuesday, he told me the truck with all their copies of halo 3 had come in that morning =)

HA HA! I knew it! I KNEW IT! Jackie boy is just begging for that padded room in an asylum!

Okay, let's summarize:

1)It's days before the launch.
2)It's so much more fantasy than realism, that you'd have to be mentally undevelloped/ill to be influenced by it.
3) He's trying to take on Bungie and Microsoft.
4) He's doing this in the middle of his current bar case (considering that he's had complaints about this).
5) It's days before the release.

If we could sell tickets to this, we'd make a fortune. This is going to hurt his reputation, such as it is, and his cause very much. It just makes no sense. I know we don't expect it to, but this is just rediculous.

-Mike Schwinger

Some say it was a warning
Some say it was a sign
I was standing right there
When it came down from the sky
The way it spoke to us
You felt it from inside
Said it was up to us
Up to us to decide
"You've become a virus
Killing off his host
We been watching you with all of our eyes
And what you seem to value most
So much potential
Or so we used to say
Your greed, self-importance and your arrogance
You piss it all away
We heard a cry
We've come to intervene
You will change your ways and you will make amends
Or we will wipe this place clean"

Your time is ticking away

Yeah, I'd say sarcasm. ^_^

for those of you in the freespace comunity...email jack thompson a copy of just another day three with intructions on how to get freespace. he'll love it.

Not even going to bother reading his complaint, this is just hilarious. If he cared about how frivolous this was, he wouldn't have even bothered-- he's obviously just attention-whoring at this point.

Wow, Jack must be having memory loss in his old age. He was unable to prove that Bully would bring harm to the denizens of Florida and there is no way he will be able to prove the harm in this situation. That could be because there is no evidence despite what Jack claims.

Sorry for double post, we need an edit function (one with a time limit, if nothing else!)

It just occurred to me all he's going to succeed in doing is generating even more publicity for an already-anticipated game. Go go free advertising!

wow microsoft ummm would someone please remind jacky boy that microsofts warchest is MUCH larger than r*'s

If there was ever a video game franchise that actually DID promote worthwhile values, it'd be Halo. For crying out loud, Halo's violence is on an entirely different level from the likes of GTA. I guess this kinda thing should be expected after Jack started criticizing even the military . . . but, c'mon.

I'd say this is a new low, but we keep seeing one every time his name pops up on this site.

@cullarn:

well with any luck they'll bury him... and we'll all live happily ever after. :P

whats up with thompson and best buy? did he get fired from there a while back or what?

Maybe, when this is defeated, the judge can order him to retake world geography as part of his punishment :)

I just read the word document and it says the following:

"THE FACTS
8. Defendants Best Buy and Microsoft are presently selling, for delivery commencing on October 25, 2007, the violent, interactive video game” entitled Halo 3."

I thought Halo 3 came out this month? Oh man, Jack is so far up his own ass, he doesn't even check release dates anymore for the games he tries to ruin. Ultra-Fail! :p

@Vansau:

How's this for a schedule?:

Geography 101
Logic 101
Practicing Law 101
Keyboarding 101

Which makes me wonder, how'd he ever manage the High School degree, unless Mommy and Daddy paid his way through that, too.
 
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