
Yesteday,
GamePolitics reported that game-hatin' attorney Jack Thompson invoked
Monica Lewinsky and Animal House in a claim that Judge Alberto Jordan was a big meanie for spanking Thompson over adding gay porn to the court docket.
Thompson went as far as to request that Judge Jordan remove himself from the controversial attorney's lawsuit against the Florida Bar.
Jordan, apparently having reached his saturation point with Thompson's antics, responded with an
order directing that Thompson be referred to the court's
Ad Hoc Committee on Attorney Admissions, Peer Review, and Attorney Grievance. The Judge had previously given Thompson until Friday to show why he shouldn't be sent before the committee, but 14 increasingly bizarre filings from Thompson in less than a week apparently caused His Honor to rethink the deadline. From Judge Jordan's order:
Rather than accept responsibility for his actions, Mr. Thompson blames the court for failing to recognize that these [gay porn] materials were already available to children on the internet on other websites...
Thompson, of course, had an entertaining - if legally questionable - response handy: He wants to add Judge Jordan as a defendant in the case. Um, that would be the same case in which Judge Jordan is also the judge. Don't think about it too hard; your brain might explode. From Thompson's
motion:
There is no question that this court, like any federal judge, enjoys immunity for the performance of its purely judicial duties... But what the court has foolishly, recklessly, tortiously, and illegally done in filing what amounts to an ethics complaint against Thompson, and fraudulently so, is expose itself to personal liability...
Therefore, since this court has now insinuated itself into an expanded use of “discipline” to try to silence and punish Thompson for clearly First Amendment speech... Thompson informs this court of his intent to include Adalberto Jordan as a named defendant herein...
GP: More than anything else, this sounds like an off-the-wall tactic designed to force Judge Jordan to recuse himself from the case, thereby delaying the inevitable showdown between Thompson and the Florida Bar. We asked Thompson about that via e-mail, but received no response.
UPDATE (Oct. 5): Judge Jordan has now issued a stay on his order that Thompson go straight to the ad hoc disciplinary committee. The judge wrote that he will decide following next Tuesday's show cause hearing.
Thompson sees this as a big win, although we're not sure why.
Comments
Other than the mime on which it fell?
1) Did he seriously just reference his relationship with the Bar to argue his skill in the practice of law.
2) "Good standing" just means he's paid his dues to the Bar.
3) He really did talk about the Bar as if he's considered an upstanding, professional with their support?
4) I think maybe he's considering his First Amendment right to mean he can say anything he feels supports his case, whether or not it would be protected saying it any other way.
5) I really think this is the straw. Hell, the camel has been in traction for the last few months.
Oh yeah, and did I mention I can't believe he's supporting himself by saying he has a good relationship with the bar?
-Mike Schwinger
Well done and well called. Often interesting when the higher authority one uses in vain comes back to bite them in the.... anyways
As the saying goes.
If you cannot dazzle them with brillance; baffle them with Bullshit. Jack is using an old highschool debate team delaying (and derailing) tact. Pitiful. This is what 31 years of law teaches?
Might I call for a show of support and respect for Judge Jordan? He has weathered Jacks storm of BS and came out this his robes nice and pressed :) I stand impressed. Salute
From lying to the nation about VT, to exploting his son with unlawful "stings", these recent incidents in this man's "career" has nothing do with law or First Amendment issues, he is merely trying to feed off of the nations fears and create an issue when there is none to begin with. It is despicable.
I encourage all Florida residents to write to their legislators about this man and how much money he is costing us, the tax payers, in frivilous lawsuits, motions, and general waste of Florida courts time that can be focused on real issues effecting the state and the nation.
He practically pioneered the practice of massacre-chasing, although that certainly isn't anything to be proud of.
But his days as an attorney are numbered. As a lawyer, he is the very epitome of FAILURE. His career should be used as an example in textbooks as what not to do.
Once he gets disbarred (it is a forgone conclusion at this point), he'll still be a massacre-chasing internet troll, but hopefully he'll be marginalized and ignored. The best way to get rid of a troll is not to feed it, after all.
Who in their right mind would represent him, he'd be a jinx on their career, and that's not to say Judges will just toss out his cases.
Sure if you are delusional or holier than thou. Which is pretty much Jack Thompson. Honestly I think it more trying to "muddy the water", a delaying tact. Desperate times call for desperate (and often silly) measures.
Actually Jack has does this before. Try to goad the judge then claim he is prejudiced. I wonder if JT has a master plan.... you know like a B movie villian. Have every Judge disqualified so there are none left to oppose his assession so he can make his own laws and all must obey him.
As to the nitwit above who asks about my running for judge (you seem a little obsessed with jack thompson), the election is in November 2008, moron.
So, are you going door to door now, bragging about distributing gay porn?
Or are you going to cry about a conspiracy of lesbians when you lose?
I totally get where you're coming from on this -- this won't be the cause of his disbarment. But at this point he has so many charges piling up against him I really think it's inevitable (and this isn't wishful thinking).
And you're right. A normal attorney would have taken a "Show Cause" and written a 3-page response. Maybe the judge doesn't agree with the reasoning and orders Jack not to do it again and that's the end of it. But Jack flies off the handle, insults the judge, insults the other attorney (again), compares himself to Paul Revere, calls himself a God warrior, and then throws a tantrum about how HIS First Amendment rights are being violated by the mean ol' judge. (And does this over the course of not one, but FOURTEEN filings.) Yep, that's a paddlin'.
Please, sue me! I don't even live in the US!
You have my support. :P
He kind of sees himself as a modern day Leonidas, believing that having a 'strong moral belief' and being outnumbered in opinion by hundreds to one is somehow more of a weapon than things like facts, common sense and intelligence. From a historical view. Jacks' belief tate 'right will win in the end' are honorable enough, the problem is that Jack's idea of what is 'right' is more about him than about the law or about the children, so right may well win in the end, the problem is that won't be as convenient for Thompson as he thinks it will be, because Right is not synonymous with 'What Jack Thompson thinks is right'.
While Jack retaining his license is a distinct possibility (to my knowledge, any given state Bar doesn't like disbarring member lawyers if it can be avoided with a lesser disciplinary action), the thing if it is that Jack's currently done enough that the Bar could likely disbar him if they wish to.
Given Jack's propensity for suing them every time they try to discipline him for his various misbehaviors, the Bar's likely considering ridding themselves of a lawyer that can't behave, and doesn't know when to accept a slap on the wrist.
Thanks for clearing that up, what I meant by "I'm no lawyer..." was that I wasn't willing to analyse the legalese you were willing to & just assume Jack knew something I didn't & that maybe there was a method to his [(libel lawyer's edit) - method]. I get the impression he has acted rashly here, his only out might be to back down & humbly admit he misunderstood, but I think that's as likely as Bill O'reilly doing same. Could this be the end for him?
Dennis, I've been wondering though. Have you ever thought about contacting the Florida Bar to get insight on their side of the Thompson story? I always wondered what were there thoughts, feelings, and reactions (particularly, how loud they groan) when the complaints about Thompson first started flooding in, ever since the "Hot Coffee" scandal.
But yeah, this seems like a tactic of 'gumming up' the legal process and retain his license just a little longer.
Is there any way the Florida Bar / the Courts could stop this? Isn't this what the main problem with our legal system? It's abused, bloated and such that getting anything meaningful done takes months, if not years?
GP: I believe that everyone there is wise to his tactics and that the legal community has had it with him. I anticipate that he will be disbarred by year's end.
Since when does free speech apply to court filings? Maybe I should post some gay porn on the servers at work and claim free speech when they fire me!
Sweetie, when you get your law degree and have practiced law for 31 continuous years in good standing with The Florida Bar, as I have, I 'll be interested in your legal opinions.
Jack Thompson, Attorney and You're Not
PS: Hooah!
GP: what are the odds of making it to 32 years of good standing?
Correct me if I am wrong but hasn't Jack always been one of those people who have said that Violent Video Games are a form of pornography and thus are not protected by free speech? So wouldn't that mean that by his thought process that those gay porn pics he gave to the judge are not protected by free speech? Or is this another case of "It is ok if I do it"?
I thought Jack was a lawyer? He should know the judge cannot be both the defendant and judge in this case. Yet I suspect he thinks this is another brilliant legal ploy of his to get the Judge thrown off the case for conflict of interest. Like I said yesterday, one more shovel full of dirt out of the hole that is already too deep to get out of. Anyone think he will lose his license before the year is done?
And you're saying WE'RE the ones who can't distinguish fantasy from reality?
Instead it's a litany of failure and childish temper tantrums.
This guy is self destructing faster than Britanny Spears.
I might not have a fancy lawyerin' degree like you got from that box of Cracker Jax, but I am able to read and comprehend the english language pretty well. From what the judge wrote, and from I do know about our legal system, I'd say you're screwed.
The strategy of "I'll sue anyone who doesn't agree with me on 1st Amendment grounds" strategy isn't going to work.
You're not going to be an attorney for much longer.
Oh, I'm in a position in which I'm pretty screwed. I do something even dumber that will ensure that I'm screwed.
It honestly defies all logic.
You know, I'm getting a little Thompson fatigue myself, but this... (words elude me)
I used to think this was funny. Now it's just pathetic and tedious.
That is the sound Jack will be making when that big ole dude in prison gets hold of him from behind.
I mean if everyone who opposed Jacko wasn't corrupt and inept that would mean that Jacko himself was. We all know that's umpossible!
Its the only way you'll retain the teaspoon full of dignity that you have left.
You've destroyed your career now. Give up. Its gone from funny to completely tragic.
So what is it, Jack? Are you the only one that has First Amendment rights? I notice that video game corporations can't advertise M rated games on shows with older audiences for fear that children can access them. Yet, you can submit gay porn to the public record (which is not protected by the First Amendment) and that's OK?
It almost sounds like Jack is doing our job for us. Think about it. IF he wins this struggle, we win. If you can submit gay porn to the public record, then nothing can stop you from advertising or selling violent video games. We can use this as evidence against anti-game laws (you know how people like to compare selling violent games to selling porn). Eventually, Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft will allow AO rated games on their consoles as public opinion and precedent has swung the other way.
Go, Jack, GO!
What an idiot, though. NOW he's attempting to have the Judge declared a defendant in the very case he’s presiding over? WTF, mate? It's obvious that he wants the Judge to recluse himself and this is just another means to that end. But, why? The only reason the Judge is angry at Jack is because he Jack has been making a mockery out of the court. Spamming the court with filings that are completely meaningless. Attempting to subpoena President Bush and his brother. Challenging the Judge. Can they submit events that happened during and in the trial as evidence against Thompson? If so, the grave for Thompson's career looks to be about 14 feet deep, now.
Okay... more that a little creeped out now.
"Sweetie, when you get your law degree and have practiced law for 31 continuous years in good standing with The Florida Bar, as I have, I ‘ll be interested in your legal opinions."
What's your idea of 'good standing'? Getting paid by your clients? Otherwise, you've been in deep shit for the past decade. I hardly call it 'good standing' when that same bar is calling you insane.
And for the love of God, quit calling Dennis 'sweetie.' What are you trying to do, make pedophiles come to your aid in court?
"Sweetie, when you get your law degree and have practiced law for 31 continuous years.."
Hey Jack? You'd think with all your practice you'd be GOOD at it by now. When a bunch of computer and gaming geeks can look at YOUR profession, which they admittedly know very little about and *KNOW* that you aren't professional, well recieved, or even the smallest bit GOOD at what you do?
What does that SAY about your skill or ability?
With your fanaticism, drama, and obvious lunatic paranoia, I'm sure whatever cult you start up to fill all the time you'll have because you no longer "practice" law with be enough to get you the media spotlight that you so badly crave.
Karma is a bitch. Enjoy the kool-aid.
Oh and Jack anyone can hold a job for 31yrs if they wanted to but it takes either someone really smart or incredibly stupid to stand out in the publics mind at anypoint in their time at work.
Did you just call another man.... "sweetie"? So.... now we know why you had gay porn on hand. Admit it, you had those pictures in your briefcase for your personal pleasure and they accidentally slipped in with that court filing.
And please define "Good Standing". I'm genuinely curious. After all, this isn't the first time you've come under fire from the bar. Nor is it the first time you've sued them. If that's good standing, OJ Simpson has good standing with the courts, too.
He's like a cockroach.
Did you just copy paste your comments from one article to the next? What, too busy looking up more gay porn to submit?
Are you coming on to Dennis?
to try to silence and punish Thompson for clearly First Amendment speech…
Ironic to the last. 1st Amendment applies 100% to him, and only partially applies to anyone else.
From the court order:
This is why Mr. Thompson is wrong in alluding to Judge Gonzalez’s 2 public filing of the sexually explicit lyrics from a 2 Live Crew album. In that case, the critical issue was whether the lyrics were obscene. The lyrics, therefore, were relevant to the litigation. This case is not about pornographic websites, no matter how much Mr. Thompson would like to make it so.
*spank*
Also of note is Mr. Thompson’s inaccurate characterization of the show cause order as a judicial determination of obscenity. The show cause order did not purport to be a ruling on whether the images have any First Amendment protection.
Denied!
Are you kidding me?!?!? JT is accusing someone else of taking cheap shots? Maybe it's the brain damage or the drugs that all of us gamers do, according to one of JT's "not-cheap shots" apparently, but that seems to me like the pot calling the kettle black.
"A finding of contempt of court may result from a failure to obey a lawful order of a court, showing disrespect for the judge, disruption of the proceedings through poor behavior, or publication of material deemed likely to jeopardize a fair trial."
Showing disrespect for the judge? Check. A look at JT's filings liken Judge to a "schoolyard bully"
Disruption of the proceedings through poor behaviour? Check. Spamming is certainly disruption.
Publication of material deemed likely to jeopardize a fair trial? Check. Gay porn anybody? Sure, the publication may be against JT, but what the hell?
Wow... 3 for 4. I may not have a fancy plaque on the wall from fakelawdegreez.com, but I certainly know that, ahem, YOU ARE SCREWED JACK! GIVE UP NOW!
The most shocking thing? I spent 5 minutes at Wikipedia to find that out. Jack spent 31 years.
Perhaps you should sue him for sexual harassment and virtual stalking. I mean he's constantly coming here only to talk to you, like a stalker, and calls you "sweetie" all the time. Also, in light of the recent revelation of Jack Thompson's love for gay porn, well, I guess it's easy to put 2 and 2 together. Don't forget he's called you like six times in an hour's time before because he couldn't get a hold of you immediately because you were in a meeting.
Anyone with half a brain can tell you're flushing away your legal career. Oh. but that would require youto have at least half a functioning human brain, now wouldn't it, Jack? that tiny little requirement is prohibiting ou from self-restraint and common sense.
Even if gamers were as stupid as you would like to insinuate, we'd still have double the thinking capacity that you seem to have.
Remember Jack: "If at first you don't succeed, you fail."
I mean really calling the Judge down to be a defendant?
Whose next Jesus?
I for one think the Judge and the court system is completely justified in trying to bring him before the committee, Thompson's actions for too long have gone unopposed and now finally someone is seeing through his crazy antics and calling him out on his bluffs.
That's much funnier if you've read in the news that a senator attempted to sue God.
You obviously care about Dennis' legal opinion since not only do you regularly read it but continuously reply to it as well.
Pretty much my guess. Keep demanding that judges recuse themselves, and he gets another 6-12 month reprieve while they find someone else to take over... Just a sad hack trying desperately to avoid standing up for what he's done and accepting punishment. Then he could appeal to a higher court, and be 100% out of the reach of any judge who answers to the FlaBar's authority. But he won't do that, because then when he gets his ass handed to him, he can't claim it was a Bar conspiracy against him...
For someone who's so willing to go to jail (heh, try calling the first guy you meet 'sweetie' I dare ya), he's certainly squirming like a weasel when it comes to accepting his punishment like a man.
Real men take their medicine. Cowards use every trick in the book to delay the inevitable.
"I find no merit in Mr. Thompson’s attempt to equate his actions with the use of Nazi concentration camp photographs to challenge those who deny the atrocities of the Holocaust. On the same note, Mr. Thompson is not the modern-day version of Paul Revere, as he suggests."
Yeah, I know, the irony kills me every time I see that... ;)
Any one at all?
He's in GOOD standing with the bar, we don't understand legal proceedings, and the case is working in his FAVOR and everyone likes him, respects him, no one thinks that he is a HUGE media whoring horse's ass, none of his "collegues" every mock him or use his name as a joke when they do something stupid ala;
"Nice work Jack Thompson",
And no one who practices law has laughingly sent a friend gay porn and signed it Jack Thompson.
You folks just don't know how close to winning he REALLY is.
Plus, in his reality, he totally gets a pony.
Also, what happened with JT running for Judge? He used that tactic as a way to get the judge in the Bully case to recuse himself. Isn't that lying to the court if he never ran for that position as he said?
This is not lawyerese. It's obvious. Essentially, JT was treated like someone who decided to represent themselves who didn't file properly. I would think a Lawyer of the Bar would know the rules?
If it's pouring down rain on your head, you don't have to be a meteorologist to say "it's raining." The judges filings were clear enough for a neophyte, so you need not be a lawyer to understand them.
-Mike Schwinger
It's not a conflict of interest when it is an attempt to influence a judge. JT made the situation himself. It isn't a real conflict, it is artificial.
I... I get it now.
We ARE all wrong about this. See, when you become a lawyer you sign an agreement that forces you to think of everything backwards. To us, it seems like he's in trouble with a judge and about to lose his license, because we're not bound to the Bizarro World rules. From Jack's perspective, being due for a disciplinary hearing means everything's A-OK! I guess you can't blame Dennis for not understanding fancypants legal terms like "contempt of court", which secretly means either "standing ovation" or "cheerful happiness party!"
Judge: Stop it.
JT: Poke, poke, poke, poke, penis, are we done yet? Can you hear me now?
Judge: Mr. Thompson, stop it right now.
JT: Poke, poke, poke, poke, penis, are we done yet? Can you hear me now?
Judge: Stop it, or I'll make you stop.
JT: Poke, poke, poke, poke, penis, are we done yet? Can you hear me now?
Judge: Ok that's it, you're in trouble.
JT: WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Bias!
So... Jack is gonna fight Superman next?
('ware the sarcarm)
Obviously the court is out to get him, the (Florida) Bar is out to get him, various websites including this one are out to get him, and apparently everyone that posts here is out to get as well... Would seem to him that the more that hate him (I don't hate him, closer to annoyance and pity) the closer he is to carrying out his holy mission. Of course they only want to drag him down because they are jealous since he is spokesman for God (and always correct). Wait someone call the Pope, I smell infringment. (Ok time to play nice again)
A drowning man is said to grab onto anything available to save themselves (including pulling down his friends which JT has proven over and again). So I am wondering if there are any helpful souls here had a largeish brick to offer Jack to help him float or better yet someone with a needle poke in a hole in his over inflated ego. Either should help him sink all the faster. Heartless you say. No. Its just that am not so inhumane (even for a gamer) to watch anyone needlessly suffer. JT its time to rest.
BIZZARO JACK THOMPSON
Who has become a distributor of gay porn via the legal system.
If Jack wasn't such an egotist, I'm sure he could've taken his personal crusade to much greater strengths, but at the end of the day his own ego has let him down.
i dont know what it is about JT, but i must say, that some of the funniest comedy moments during my time reading news, comes from this website and its reporting on him.
keep going JT!
"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience." -Romans 13:1-5
The judge is a person of authority here. An authority established BY GOD.
Wow... Just wow.. I am absolutely a free speech proponent. However, I would never have expected JT to claim that the distribution of gay porn falls under 1st Amendment protection. I'm sure he didn't intend to, but that seems to be what it amounts too. I wish him the best of luck getting the obscenity law stricken.. With that twisted bit of precedent gone, we shouldn't have any more worries about video game legislation.
I think Jack might be hot for you, Dennis...
"This career will self-destruct 5 seconds..."
4 for 4 actually, hes failed to obey the judges 'show cause' order on the gay porn filing, instead spouting all the crap we see now (not exactly showing cause).
If jordan doesnt find JT in contempt I'll be very surprised.
However, I would never have expected JT to claim that the distribution of gay porn falls under 1st Amendment protection.
The judge seems to have headed that one off at the pass, refusing to rule on whether it was obscene or not. So I doubt it.
Still it would have been funny.
THIS JUST IN! Noted anti-obscenity lawyer Jack Thompson has been credited with filing a Bar motion that inadvertently led to the abolishment of the government's ability to regulate the distribution of porn to minors! News @11 :P
Two problems with the UK system.
1) It carries the force of law. I'm sorry, but the government has no right to review my entertainment and tell me whether I can or can't partake in it.
2) It can outright ban certain material by refusing it a rating. One strength our system has is that the publisher pays a fee to have their game reviewed so the ESRB can not refuse a rating. Sure, AO is effectively a ban, but let's not blame the ESRB for that. That's the fault of retailers and console manufactures.
@ Thabor
My thoughts exactly. Check my previous post.
http://gamepolitics.com/2007/10/03/sheer-legal-brilliance-jack-thompson-...
- Wasting taxpayers' money
- Menace to society
- Damage to the people and business in the video game industry, including retailers
Someone find a lawyer to sue him :)
He used the Holocaust as a reason for posting Gay Porn? And he accuses others of losing perspective?
Finally someone's putting Jackie in his place!
I wish I was joking, but I'm not. I seriously got a headache now. I started as I as I was reading this article XD
My bet on disbarment is: January 12th 2008
He used the Holocaust as a reason for posting Gay Porn?
His argument was basically that pictures of the Holocaust were necessary evidence in the case against the camp staff, and so no judge would dream of saying that they were offensive and try to censor them or remove them from the docket.
The judge replied that it was JT on trial here, not Kent, so the images are 100% irrelevant to the case. If the case had been about Kent's behavior, then it would have been relevant. But Kent isn't on trial, no matter how much JT would like him to be.
That and JT filed them without notifying the court in advance. There are mechanisms to put "seals" on documents, usually used for stuff like sensitive information that is necessary for the case argument, but not intended for mass public viewing. Again, JT fails law class, he must have slept through the section on "how to file evidence to a docket"...
The judge also dismissed JT's argument that "because the porn is already publicly available elsewhere, it's ok". He stated that JT was a participant in the public distribution at that point, regardless of what it's current availability was. Just because some guys are handing out porn on the street doesn't mean you get to hand some out yourself...
Thanks for clearing it up. I thought he'd gone beserk on some mad power trip... oh, wait...
We can always dream. =)
@Gameboy
Dead on there. I think it is a testament to the effectiveness of existing rating system that practically every game and movie actually does have a rating. I generally prefer the unrated versions when they are available, but they are relatively rare. Clearly if the rating weren't effective or valuable nobody would bother having their content rated.
JT is nothing if not inconsistent. He gives his son explicit instructions (and permission) to buy mature games, then complains that his son was able to follow his wishes. By comparison he is almost lucid in this instance.
I definitely concede it being artificial. But I wonder where the burden of proof would lie there. Would Jack have to prove it was justified in adding the judge and the conflict is valid, or would the judge/court have to show it's a ploy? It pretty much boils down to a "he said, he said" kind of thing. I'm not saying anything is really right, just that the bag of tricks is so vast and annoying.
I was just wondering something too. In all seriousness, does anyone else get a flash of a kid saying "Nah nah nahnah naaaa" every time Jack says "Attorney and you're not?"
-Mike Schwinger
'Nah Nah NahNah naaaaa' is Jacks usual attitude to the entire planet, having conversations with him have always been like talking to a 6-year old because he only hears the parts of facts or sentences he wants to hear and ignores the rest if it doesn't suit him.
I imagine it would be up to JT to prove he was justified in adding the judge to the defendant list. The judge only has the power to grant/deny his motion, and JT could then appeal to a higher court presumably.
Seeing as how JT has yet to appear before a higher court, I'm willing to bet that either a) he hasn't bothered, this media circus suits him fine, or b) the higher courts have rejected him to date, telling him to hurry up and get disciplined by the bar before they can intervene.
Either way, he's just using this as one more stalling tactic in a long line of sad attempts to stall the inevitable.
I'm totally suing your ass, Dennis.
I find it ironic he's using the 1st amendment when he wants it to work, and then hates it immediately after his attempt. I don't think this applies though, its hard to argue first amendment speech by exposing yourself in public, even worse if you were touching yourself in the process.
Thompson has exposed some things, all while smiling with glee as if excited by the glaring eyes of the public at large. However, instead of expressing a message that was worth something or nothing, he exposed pictures of porno without a real purpose and trying to pass it off as evidence in a docket.
It may as well be obstruction for trying to impede the case.
31 years of practicing law and still screwing up this badly; It just shows he chose the wrong career, he'd have probably done better trying to start his own cult and attempting to get it tax exempted.
Jack go start your own cult, you may still have time before your body dies on you; it is too late for the damaged brain you have.
I believe the synopsis of the various J Thompson pleadings and court conduct should be required reading in Florida law schools. Perhaps even in the first week of Trial Advocacy.
It should be required reading for that class in all law schools.
My contract law teacher back in university could have spent spent several days on this. He spent a week teaching us the "do's" and "don'ts" of filing documents in dockets, for civil suits. This entire set would definitely have fallen under the "don't" section. ;)
I also love unedited entertainment. I've been picking up the DragonBall Z seasons that are being released and loving every minute of them. Something about Goku falling into "Hell" (not the HFIL), Vegeta having a short conversation with Guldo's severed head, and Recume flipping Goku off gives me pleasure.
As you might of guessed, I'm a big anime fan (as well as a gamer) and I love how much of today's anime is getting less censored. Bleach would be ruined without blood and character's attitudes would seem less real if they couldn't say certain words (one minor character is a lesbian). Even Naruto wouldn't have been released in its present form 10 years ago.
And I agree with your assessment of Jack's "stings". Effectively he is giving his son permission to purchase the games. No sales clerk/retailer could deny the sale to him because soon as the child has permission to purchase the game they are actually selling the game to the parent. And you wouldn't deny a sale to any consenting adult as that is bad business. And since we have no real evidence the sales happened (other than Jack's say so) we have no idea how they went down. For all we know, Jack was right there the whole time handing his son the game and money with which to make the purchase.
It's obvious that Jack is very sick and needs some serious psychological help. At this point, I'm not even mad. I just feel bad for his family.
Sweetie, when you get your HDTV and have been playing assorted violent games for 16 continuous years in good mental health, as I have, I'll be interested in your opinions on videogame violence.
Matthew, Gamer and You’re Not
PS: Headshot!
Excellent rebuttal in-kind. I've said it before, JT can in no way be considered a "video game violence expert" since he's never played them.
Sweetie, when you get your law degree and have practiced law for 31 continuous years in good standing with The Florida Bar, as I have, I ‘ll be interested in your legal opinions.
Jack Thompson, Attorney and You’re Not
PS: Hooah!
Well Jack, unless we're in bizarro world, you've practiced for 21 years of mediocre standing, and then you've spent the last 10 years being a laughingstock and going without victory.
Your statement also says that we should completely ignore your opinions on videogame violence, as we've all been playing longer than you.
You and I both know that you won't be a lawyer at the end of the year, so give it up. You're a terrible lawyer and a terrible human being.
You're a liar and a snake,
Austin Lewis
Dan, Video Gamer
Agreed. I think his WikiQuote page is one of the funniest things I've ever read.
@ Jabrwock
That makes sense. I would imagine this particular course ending up as him being beaten in many ways. Half of me expects his case to get thrown out because of improper use of the legal system.
@ GameClucks
He'll never be ignored. He may not be able to practice law, but he can still take actions. He can file suit in court as a regular citizen. He can still claim to be an "expert" and get on TV. He can still just yell until he gets heard. He'll never go away, just become less powerful.
This is just fun to watch. I don't mean from the point that the poor man is coming unraveled. It's like a case study. Trying to analyze these actions is riviting.
-Mike Schwinger
Well said. "Headshot" is right.
@ J Thompson, attorney
I used to live in Florida; my brother, my mother, and an assortment of friends worked for the Florida Bar in different ways. No one respects you. I've often asked them why you are even allowed to call yourself a lawyer, and all they can say is that you embarrass the whole state and its legal system. No one respects you. Your son doesn't repsect you, and your wife is looking for a way out. You've lost. You lose. Find something else to do with your time.
Hehehe, my gods Thompson, did you swap your first amendment TP for your law degree? You can't have your shit cake and eat it too Thompson, either game companies have that first amendment freedom too, or you don't have it either.
By the way Thompson, don't try to drag a judge into this by stating that Bill Clinton instated him so his opinion is somehow not valid. No one's opinion has ever been valid to you, well, except your own. This is your own fault Thompson, deal with it, kiddo.
My guess is jack's in the in-between state right now:
One one hand, he's in a total panic because the Bar pretty much has him at this point, and it's only a matter of time before they get to drop the hammer on him. So he's at the point where he's thrashing about wildly and doing anything and everything to try and hold off the inevitable.
One the other hand, he still apparently wants to keep up the preference that everything under control and us gamers should be so scared because he's unstoppable. So he still tries to make those stupid comments here when possible. But since he's panicking, they're a little loopier than normal.
Also, didn't he make the exact same post on a different article? I guess the court doesn't leave him which much free time, what with his ass on the line and all. Which would explain why he's not commenting much to begin with. A sign of a loosing battle maybe?
I don't think getting a forced psych test means "continous good standing for 31 years"
besides, since when has amount of time doing something meant increased skill? I've been living for almost 20 years now, I'm still just as good at breathing and existing as I was back at year 1.
of course that's just my opinion. I Could be wrong (but I doubt it)
Is there any legitamtate reason why anyone would antagonize the judge overseeing there disbarment case?
He's bringing suit against someone for allegedly "providing access to obscene material" when it's not even on the defendant's own website (Google should be part of this suit too by this logic); yet claims that his filing of said obscene material in a system which also lacks age verification is protected by the first amendment. Furthermore, it's illegal for anyone to file a complaint against him?
Wow, I wish I were a lawyer so I could totally ignore reality and make life miserable for others as a result of doing so.
-Downloads gay porn.... Check
-Calls other men 'sweetie'.... Check
-Throws temper tantrums when he doesn't get his way.... Check
-An absolutely 'fabulous' fashion sense.... Check
-Married to a woman that can't keep him under control.... Check
Yep, the results are in, Jack.... YOU'RE GAY
Any nay sayers?
He's reproduced
So? Other gay couples have children from earlier marriages. Maybe he's just putting up a fight.
Time for him to join Tom Cruise in the closet. Next he'll be making his living with puppets and driving a pretty blue Prias wit holiday stickers on the back window
[free internet if anyone gets which comedian I'm referencing]
Jack you brighten my day with your idoitcy.
Well, you certainly seem to care about his opinions... in fact, you seem to care so much that you respond to almost every one of them. Every day. Obsessively.
And the "sweetie" thing isn't funny, and was never funny.
So Jack, You're here, you're apparantly queer...should we get used to it?
OOH! I got singled out by JT! My life is complete. To know that he thinks I'm a nitwit, my god, I can die happy now knowing that. And if it's so far off that you haven't started.... then what was the point of declaring your running so many months ago? Oh wait... could it have been yet another of your pitiful stall tactics.
But in the end.... I can die happy knowing that JT trolls GP enough to single out my comment hours after I posted it.
I'll copy it and send it to that hooker in Miami I just happen to know..
hmm. Anyone a writer? I swear we can turn this into a movie. DUMBEST LAWYER EVER. How about a dramatic comedy? hmm maybe we can get Neil Patrick Harris to play "jack thompson"... I mean the lawyer. Or maybe Lance Bass. Hmm they are all too young. Maybe Elton Jon? hmm That Guy from Will and Grace or someone A gay eye for the straight guy.
Any one else u can think of to play the Lead in the Dumbest Lawyer Ever?
'I love it when a scam comes together....'
One of the definitions of insanity is attempting the same thing over and over again and yet expecting different results, you know.
- Well, you'd have to get JT. You can't just ACT this moronic.
But concerning the topic at hand...wow. I fully agree that he can't argue his point about violent videogaming, because he hasn't played it. And sure, I may not know that much about law (and I don't claim to), but it's not that difficult to tell when someone is being a complete and utter idiot. You're just making a fool out of yourself in the legal system, JT. You parade around the courtroom acting like there's someone out to get you. Well, after reading all of your documents, I have to agree. You are out to get yourself.
Even babies know not to touch the heater after they burn their hands. Dogs know not to piss on the carpet after you whack their nose with a newspaper. Funny how you somehow manage to lack that basic bit of common sense.
Submit an apology, plead to the judge, or just take yourself out of this situation somehow. At least own up and be a man at some point in your "career".
If anyone here is obsessed, it's you. You are going to suffer for it. Deal. I like how that's all you have, too. Something off-topic and random that doesn't relate to anything being discussed. You're pathetic and I wont feel any remorse WHEN (not if, but WHEN) they tear that lawyer badge from your morally corrupted self. Have fun basking in your wife's hard earned cash while you ponder where you went wrong. No doubt you'll never actually learn a single lesson from any of this.
Well, he's not calling *quite* everyone "sweetie"- I mean, he just called DeusPayne a nitwit and a moron!
I wonder if this is just some bizarre twist in his normal name-calling routine.
A conspiracy of lesbians... is that a group term, like a murder of crows or a pod of dolphins?
In any case, hottest conspiracy ever.
You win teh prize!!
In that comparison Jack is the 'Barbarian', he lacks the ability to function in an environment that is not tailored to his own particular prejudices and lashes out indiscriminately and viciously because of it. I've never seen him be civil to anyone he doesn't agree with, and that is what forms the basis of civilisation, if people couldn't cope with other people who had different opinions, mankind would never have got beyond sitting in trees throwing faeces at each other, frankly, Thompson is still at that stage.
Well, you won't have to waste money on a campaign after THIS November now will you?
Yay! My very first internet!
~yeah well it would be hard to find someone that can play someone that moronic but as we all know JT loves the spot light. and well to do a whole movie on him in the form of a dramatic comedy, well i doubt we will get pass the first scene with JT interrupting and trying to do his own thing then spouting off a 3 hour rant about he is trying to protect America.
But I think this is a great list of actors to play Jack Thompson
I swear that Jack Thompson has seriously come up with something worst than the Chewbacca Defense. Ha it would be funny if they start teaching a class on Jack Thompson, HOW NOT BE A LAWYER 101
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0107796.html
A point well noted. As much as people would say he's gay (which isn't even proper use of the word). I wouldn't call him even remotely homo-sexual. Looking at his antics, and calling Dennis "Sweetie", there are three words for him.
Obsessed. Disturbed. Megalomanic
...What really makes the whole Jack Thompson saga funny (and frightening) is it's obvious he does not do any of this for the money. The media attention--sure, but that's means to an end. He honestly believes in the stuff he preaches about video games and today's society.
THAT is the scary part.
"I hereby submit for public viewing images of explicit pornography to demonstrate that this man is a reprehensible human being for making images of explicit pornography public!"
Throw in that the porn didn't even come from the man in question and you really have to wonder what the heck he intended to happen.
I still can't fathom how that shrink declared Jack "sane" as there've been 150 posts in this thread alone (including a handful by the nutjob himself) that prove otherwise.
Jack:
Don't let the door hit you in the ass *too* hard when your career ends!
The Shrink was exercising Christian Favoritism.
I think he's already used
Honey
Sweetie
And i think Sweetheart.......
Man thats creepy....Dennis jack hasnt sent you any love emails or anything like that has he...or a video of him singing "time of my life" or whatever that song was that they played during the star wars family guy episode...
jack go play the 360 and enjoy bioshock...just ask jack jr if u can borrow it
Hooah
p.s harvest the little sister
I am curious to what you believe your chances are of actually winning the election, being that you are the laughing stock of the Floridian law practice and the American legal system as a whole?
It's been pointed out before that Jack can act rational. Despite our views upon him, and his views upon the world of entertainment politics. He is a (barely) capable man of sound mind. He is, however, arrogant, creative, compulsive, rude, and downright destructive. It is the sort of danger you commonly encounter any professional world.
Doesn't know all the material, but knows enough to be dangerous.
I find the phrase rings true here. As it stands, I'm glad he was declared sane by a licensed psychiatrist. I understand that Dr. Wunderman may not have looked at the issue correctly, but this basically means that Jack Thompson may not excuse himself for his actions. He is totally responsible for every step and misstep, and will suffer the full consequences of those actions. No one will baby him or give him a light slap on the wrist when his defensive tactics totally fail.
Maybe thats his plan...he gets booted from being a laywer and then tries to be a judge and then only takes violent video game cases so he can immediatly go and try to take out the industry that way??
never know
"DON'T rock the boat."
~Otaku-Man
I look forward to what the Committee is going to do to you Jack.
That was...objectionable!
"Kids remember, don't use drugs or you might turn out like Jack Thompson."
"This is your brain (points to Dot)
This is your brain on drugs (points at picture of JT in his Pink feather robes and crooked toothed smile)
Think about it"
I have a feeling that might acutally instill enough fear to work
He also need a little yappy dog and stickers all over the back window.
Not to mention a Jalepeno.... on a stick.
Here's the problem with you posting that script from the Bible. You are using a logical train of thought. You are assuming that Jack Thompson, who claims to be a Christian, will read it and think, "My God! He's right!"
This will never happen because in Jackie Boy's fantasy world, he is never wrong. In his fantasy world, he is ALWAYS in the right and what he is doing is always the right course of action. If Jack is guilty of anything, it's the sin of pride because there has never been a man less willing to accept his faults and failures (and there are plenty) than Jack.
"You're out of order! You're out of order! The whole trial is out of order! They're out of order!"
See, Jack? I can quote Al Pacino movies too!
"HOOAH!"
PS: Hooah
as a friendly farewell to the self proclaimed anti game champion for his job against us murderous machines known as gamers
Long time, no post. I hate to do this, really I do. But JT isn't going to face sanctions for his filing of the porn. I know, I know. Let me explain...
If nearly any other attorney had filed this motion, the pictures would not have been included, however (and it's an important however) that is not to say they are irrelevant to the cause of action (as stated by Judge Jordan in the Show Cause Order). JT's point is that he is being unfairly targeted by the Florida Bar (a point I disagree with). His evidence for this is that there are other attorneys in Florida who JT believes are violating bar rules in a more egregious manner. His belief is that a Bar Member website that links to a website that links to another website where porn is available is a serious violation and should be slammed by the Bar. He included the pics in order to show that they were hardcore porn, and therefore inappropriate for the Bar to support. LETS BE CLEAR!!! - I am NOT supporting JT's position that this is true or violative! I am not saying that JT should be free to file whatever the hell he wants and say whatever the hell he wants to judges and members of the Bar of any state. I AM saying that he is not as far off base as he may seem IN THIS CASE. That being said...14 filings JT? Really? Claiming that the judge has gone so far as to open himself up to litigation in a personal capacity? You are out of your mind (regardless of what any quack may testify to). You failed to properly respond to the show cause order (which I could have done for you in one 3 page filing - but that wouldn't have generated the controversy you need, would it?), you continued to personally insult and question the impartiality of yet another Federal judge, and filed your rambling missives with bloated prose and random quotes. Regardless of whether you are disciplined for this filing (which you and I both know you won't be, leading to you pounding the table claiming victory) you will be disciplined by the Florida Bar. You conduct is an embarrassment to the entire profession.
Have a nice day JT! For the rest of GP reader's: sorry I've been gone so long, been busy. :-)
The_Attorney
Do you know what happens when you are pulled over for speeding and you tell the officer that the car ahead of you was going faster than you were. Yeah, you still get a ticket.
As the Judge pointed out, he hasn't accused Thompson of doing anything improper, he asked for an explanation or he'd send the case for evaluation in that respect, Jack's response were insults and accusations without actually reading the body of the Judges orders.
As The Attorney says, this is about distraction and generating 'news' with Thompson's name in. I still don't think he's going to walk away with his licence, not with the current complaints against him, but I do think he's purely doing all this to get attention for his post-legal career. Jack's actions of posting the picture were silly, but not beyond forgiveness, Jack's reaction to the Judges order, however, are on a wholly different level.
Did he or did the mailman? I want a DNA test because no way someone that insane and stupid could figure out the complex techniques behind producing a child.
Again, not saying I think he has a point, just saying he has enough of a point to avoid sanctions.
The_Attorney
"As to the nitwit above who asks about my running for judge (you seem a little obsessed with jack thompson), the election is in November 2008, moron"
Said the man who thought Halo 3 came out in October, and no one is more obsessed with Jack Thompson than Jack Thompson.
"His belief is that a Bar Member website that links to a website that links to another website where porn is available is a serious violation and should be slammed by the Bar."
that just seems odd... that cant really hold up in court can it? I mean if a website were to link to google, or have google ads on it, it would link that website with google, and google, effectivly links to just about any website out there, include porn websites. heck the same could be said about yahoo, ask.com and many other search engines.
point is... just about any website out there that has atleast one link to another website, chances are if you were to follow that chain far enough you can link up with just about any website out there on the net, theoritically anyway.
No, it wouldn't stand up as a defence, even though Thompson believes it will, but that doesn't mean he's not entitled to put it forward as one. His method was silly, and unprofessional, but the simple act of filing impoper material in a court docket without checking is just bad lawyering, not a sanctionable offence on it's own. It's not Thompsons' actions that land him in trouble so often, it's his reactions.
No question that his reasoning is terrible (as always). However, the only thing he needs to do in order to avoid sanctions is provide even a semblance of reasoning for his filing. I, sadly, believe he can do this. Is that to say that he has any hope for avoiding Bar sanctions on the underlying misconduct (which has NOTHING TO DO with any other attorney in Florida or elsewhere?)? Nope. He's dead in the water, and he knows it. Therefore: 1) generate publicity, 2) slam "activist" judges, 3) claim that "they" are forcing little kids to watch gay porn, and 4) run for office. Not sure what the rules are in Florida (not my state), but not all states require sitting judges to be attorneys.
The_Attorney
I've been in practice for a long time. However, based on the content of your writings and choice of words within those writings, I am sure you would not be interested in my legal opinions as well.
I am puzzled about your strategy of posting inflamatory remarks in a public forum and your apparent lack of caring that your off-the-cuff words impact your professional reputation and the reputation of lawyers in general.
I do not practice in Florida but my Bar association has disbarred members for activities that brought the profession into disrepute. My advice, for what it is worth to you, would be to ignore this website and concentrate on your reputation and career.
Well, producing his reason for this is one thing, but a reason the judge will believe may be a different matter entirely.
With a little help, we can publically humiliate his ass AND keep him from getting office - and the best part is that everything in the videos will be absolutly true and 100% documented on a website put up specifically to stop JT from claiming libel.
The question is, can he avoid trouble for his response the to judge? He's got some tortuous logic for filing the porn in the first place, so I can see him getting just a light smack on the wrist for his blatant disregard of procedure. However, what about the excessive filings and disrespect for the judge in response to the judge's reasonable show cause order?
I've heard that saints row 2 is in development so why not have Jack Jr Buy that one next
I like to think that most members of my profession are reasonable people. The judge has made it clear that the number of filings made by JT were unacceptable. JT could face contempt charges going forward. However, most folks will attempt to deal with it, as opposed to fighting JT on every jackass thing he does. Think about how much time the Judge had to spend on this silliness! This is not his only case, remember. So, many will just ignore his antics unless he crosses some line (like filing the pics without seal or warning).
Keep in mind, that this suit is JT's response to, in some part, he antics in front of another Judge. :-) I imagine that Judge Jordan will attempt to keep this case as simple as possible and avoid being taken off track by JT.
The_Attorney
I never said they'd be in their right mind. Just that He'd find ways. :-p
I would agree if this was JT's first time attaching inappropriate material to a filing. It is not.
@Mnementh2230
Don't let that fucking loser try and threaten you. Is is a snake, liar, and disgusting excuse for a human being. I welcome all threats from that scum-sucking piece of shit. It makes for hilarious headlines.
I wonder if he enjoyed the results of the Photoshop contest? I know I did.
And, in my opinion, Federal Procedural Rule 11 makes it almost too easy for a federal court to slap a litigant with sanctions (up to dismissal of their case) for filing documents without a good faith basis for doing so and I sense that Judge Jordan's just a button-push or two away from slapping Jack -- and hard. And, once slapped, it's the slapee's heavy burden to get the court's slap retracted.
Jeff Dunham Rules......
Wonderful insight on what could or could not happen. That begs one question though: What about JT's blatant disrespect for His Honor? From what I understand, not only he is not using the correct honorifics for the person presiding over his federal suit (I understand the trial has not yet started, though). He has basically slammed Judge Jordan up and down, and made statement in court that he wishes the Judge to be included as a Defendant in this case [which sounds like an attempt to force a recuse], and will place a seperate suit against Judge Jordan if the motion is not accepted.
Can we get a link to this JT archive you mentioned?
Again, not saying I think he has a point, just saying he has enough of a point to avoid sanctions.
He could still get spanked with sanctions, because however much he may believe the court "needs" to see the information, there are mechanisms for filing material that is important to the case, but not suitable for public viewing. Stuff like personal records, graphic imagery, sensitive information, etc, can be filed under "seal" (with the judge's permission). No permission was sought prior to the filing.
JT could easily have filed for permission to file the pictures under seal as "evidence" that the Bar frequently looks the other way, and then claimed bias if he had been rejected.
He isn't in trouble for filing the pictures, he's in trouble for the manner in which he filed them, which equated to publicly distributing pornographic imagery. Which he then defends by pointing at Kent and going "well HE did it first."
While I'm pretty sure the judge was not amused by the filing, he sounds more angry that JT would basically do exactly what he was accusing Kent of doing, allegedly under the Bar's nose. Which is why the judge made it clear that filing a picture of gay felatio was not needed, a mere accusation with links would have sufficed. Hardcore proof could come if Kent challenged that the pictures even existed.
A better argument would have been to show that former complaints submitted about Kent's "porn network" went uninvestigated, unlike the myriad of complaints against JT. But instead, he files the porn with the docket, as his first official complaint that Kent is "distributing" porn.
Actually, I just had a funny thought. If the Bar didn't spank JT for filing the porn, then it would be harder for him to claim bias against him... ;)
- Gomez Adams.
Including gay porn in an irrelevant motion to the court? Maybe no sanction.
Responding to the referral by naming one's intent to name the judge as a defendant? Wow. And what really boggles me is, I think JT is actually trying to name Judge Jordan as a *co*-defendant. My head spins.
Ah well, he hasn't filed any paperwork, so as usual it's just hot air. Hooah.
Actually, the Florida Bar isn't yet directly implicated. It's actually the Ad Hoc Committee on Attorney Admissions, Peer Review, and Attorney Grievance for the Southern District, the federal equivalent of the Florida Bar. And the Committee, in addition to referring the matter to the Florida Bar if they so choose, can revoke any admission to practice before the court currently granted Mr. Thompson. He'd still be a Florida-licensed attorney able to pratice in Florida state courts but he'd be unable to pratice in the Southern District (i.e., federal court).
Please, let's just raise some money to buy him a nice big helmet - maybe one with a cartoon bear on the front - and move on before he flies into another tantrum and hurts himself on a sharp corner. Or gives himself a paper cut on all that gay porn he's viewing. On his computer. He could do it, by God. He'd FIND a way. And then he'd sue the creators for putting out a "dangerous product."
I can’t help but feel it’s wasteful not to laugh at a mentally disabled individual as he implodes in public.
it's like the old saying:
if a tree falls in the forest, and it falls on a mime, does anyone care?
Step 1. File ridiculous, meritless, lawsuit.
Step 2. Upon first unfavorable ruling by court, file motion for recusal.
Step 3. Upon denial of motion for recusal, repeat Steps 1 - 3.
What ever happened to your "Ben Kuehne is a target of a D.O.J. investigation into money laundering by the Medellin cartel" story? I haven't heard you repeat that one in a while. I hope you haven't abandoned what I thought was one of your more inventive smoke-screens.
Keep giving the guy rope... He'll continue to hang himself with it. The guy is a zealot, and zealots will do anything to achieve their goals, even if their actions fly in the face of their own logic and arguments. It brings to mind my favorite bit of correspondence that Jack sent me back in July of 2005:
"I don't expect to win hearts and minds. My intent is to stop evil. Big difference."
Yeah, how's that working out for you so far, Jack?
He could walk into a comments section, say "I like to eat peanuts", and subsequently have 50-100 people easily comment on that statement alone. Furthermore, they would also go over how that statement makes him a total git.
To that end, he could go in and go "PFFT" and have everyone lambasting him and how adding two f's was highly pretentious.
He could, but he DOESN'T!
Instead he rambles on, throws insults, and denies any responsibility, mistakes, or anything. He could be civil and nice and polite, but instead he prefers to insult everyone around him, isolating himself from everyone.
I hate to say it, but he's the only person I know who deserves such insults due to the fact that he's not only an idiot who doesn't realize his own mistakes, but an idiot who refuses to realize his mistakes when his own mistakes are pointed out to him.
To this end, the nincompoop is going to lose his law license and probably never see the light of day in the game industry again.
What a MORON!
~Otaku-Man
What scares me though is Jacko wanting to run for judge of all things. I'm sure his campaign add will say "I fight for the right to protect The CHILDREN" or some bull like that. Uh... That thought doesn't sit well.
Anyways, good for the judge. Its nice to see him trying to toss the book at JT for being a complete idiot. I hope the Florida Bar gets a good look at how 'upstanding' JT is, with these legal filings.
How professional of you, Jack!
Attorney at Law
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Just thought you would all like to know that the Judge has already denied Thompson's motion to recuse, seriously noting that "Thompson unfortunately appears to believe that every act taken against him, and any judicial ruling adverse to him, are part of a vast conspiracy designed to silence him and destroy him."
If Dennis does not post it here by this evening, he is doing such a great job, I will see what I can do about having a short story on www.nationalgaynews.com, if I am not too busy criminally trafficking in obscenity and serially destroying the world, I mean I have priorities and the baseball playoffs are tonite, so I have to focus my energies, and I am still recovering from spinal surgery.
By the way, while I am blogging here, let me thank so many of you for the kind words you have posted about me, about www.nationalgaynews.com, and how utterly moronic, stretched, and tortured the logic is that Thompson has used to accuse me of trafficking in obscenity. To say the least, it has so backfired on him and even after the order today yet again he has filed a pleading too illogical to summarize here.
Maybe Judge Jordan said it best when he wrote "Mr. Thompson's threat of a lawsuit is insufficient for me to recuse...if a judge were required to recuse whenever a litigant threatened to sue him, disgruntled parties would be able to forum shop...........just because he believes he did nothing wrong ...does not mean I have to agree with him......"
Better watch out Mr. Thompson, it's not Rowan and Martin's Laugh In, but 'Here Come Da' Judge.'
Glad to see you are recovering well :)
I've worked with Homophobics before, and yes, I've found myself frustrated by their assumptions, but I must admit, Mr Thompson takes the cake when it comes to sheer cliff-vaulting assumptions and bigotry.
As I've said before, I think what makes Jack angry is the fact that, for all his accusations of conspiracy it has been his actions, and his actions alone that have landed him in this situation, and he can't fix the problem because it would mean having to admit it. I'm still trying to decide with he has a superiority complex or is trying to compensate for an inferiority complex.
You rule Mr Kent. And best of luck on your recovery.
Hey jack does your wife know you crave cock? do you tell her all the gay porn on your computer is for legal purposes? I once knew an angry guy, he mellowed once he came out mabye jack would too.
As for the legal manouvering its all cut and paste classic thompson tactics, everyone is olut to get him so he's gonna sue the world.
:)
I have a question for you actually... Are Jack's antics as completely over the top and neurotic as they seem, or are there actually other such people in the legal industry(let alone in Miami)? I just can't quite believe that he's been practicing for 31 years and not been called up over this attitude before now, unless maybe it is more commonplace than I am led to believe?
I guess I just have this stereotypical view of lawyers being straightlaced and civil. Jack has been quite the culture shock...
PS. Hope you are continuing to recover well.
October 3rd, 2007 at 1:40 pm
'As to the nitwit above who asks about my running for judge (you seem a little obsessed with jack thompson), the election is in November 2008, moron.'
Good lord. Is there ever a time at which you stop to think 'I'm a 56-year-old man with a degree in law, scouring the Internet and slinging "names" at anonymous users?' Your behavior is on par with that of a child.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:57 pm
'I wish that the judge from Phoenix Wright was the judge for the case… Five screw ups and it’s game over.'
This gave me more a laugh than it probably should.
Hey JT, you just got fucking owned by the Judge. I would think you would be used to it by now.
I think it is actually way more awesome to watch John Boy being pulled away kicking and screaming than it would if he just accepted his defeat. This is pure comedy GOLD. You simply can't make this shit up!
I can't wait for the Judge to do the legal equivalent of jamming the gavel all the way up John Boys asshole.
"He used the Holocaust as a reason for posting Gay Porn? And he accuses others of losing perspective?"
He said Sony was out to destroy America with a slow-motion 'Pearl Harbor 2.' It was only a matter of time before he moved on to the German side of WWII. He has Bill Gates as the anti-christ, so that must mean that sometime soon, he'll compare someone like Norm Kent or Zelnick or whoever to Mussolini (or whoever the Italian dictator was, i forget it off the top of my head)
He's already compared Doug Lowenstein to Goebbels, so yes, it's a matter of time, in fact, just about everything Jack has ever written has been in comparative form 'X is like Y', just read through any one of his legal filings and count how many times he tries to pull the 'comparison stunt' where he takes two completely unrelated incidents and compares them to suit his agenda.
In truth, he's a one-trick pony, and people can see how the trick is done now.
"My name is JT, and I quote from the Bible
Don't disrespect me, or I'll sue you for libel
I've pissed off Judges, and turned my back on a charity
Close down fuckin' Photoshop, or I'll sue you for parody
You've done it now, I'm telling you this
You better stop it, this is a Cease and Desist
Don't even think you can criticize me
I've got an internet law degree"
Damn, I had more but I have to run.
Benito Mussolini. (You had it right.)
Oh and one doesn't need to become a lawyer to have good legal points. Heck, do I need to become a basketball player to be a good ringside reporter?
OK, good. It was one of those instances where i was like "Wait a minute... that was him, right? I'm not sure anymore. DAMMIT!" XD
I felt like i was on "Are you smarter than a fifth grader" for a second there, lol.
He has a bright career ahead of him as "Jack Thompson, pornographer." It's already a more apt title for him than "attorney," seeing as the only thing he's succeeded at lately is disseminating hardcore pornography to the general public.
Wait what? He once paid Norm $50K? WTH isn't this on his wiki page?
I think the problem is more that Thompson didn't actually read the order that the Judge wrote, and responded instead to what he thought it contained.
The Judge ordered Thompson to appear before him to give reason why he shouldn't send the matter on to be decided whether it should be sanctioned or not, he didn't accuse Thompson of wrongdoing, he just wanted an answer as to why he had done such a silly thing. Had Thompson merely said 'It was a mistake, I apologise and will make sure that adult material is properly filed from here onwards', it probably wouldn't have got him in trouble (though that isn't certain because he already had one count of warnings against him for filing pornographic material), Jack somehow read it as 'I'm going to get you for filing porn images'. The Judge made no such accusation, as he pointed out in his response to Thompson.
So, in truth, of Thompsons' 14 responses to the Judges request, not one of them actually addressed the issues raised in it, and instead they went off into a soap-box session about something that no-one had said.
As I stated before, I don't think Thompsons' actions will get him into trouble, the act of filing Porn was dumb, but not disbarment kind of dumb, however, his rhetoric, ranting, insults and accusations, his reaction, as it were, is a whole lot more serious than the original mistake. Thompsons need to whip everything up into being all about him and his persecution complex is far more likely to lose him his license than filing sexually related images in a court docket.
Yup, I was as surprised as you, read up on the original article and they mentioned it on National Gay News, it was also covered in a few other places...
http://nationalgaynews.com/content/view/1742/173/
'Publisher Norm Kent is presently in litigation against Jack Thompson in Broward Circuit Court for the second time in three years, suing him for libel, slander, and defamation of character. Thompson is alleged to have called Kent a “drug addict, mentally impaired, a criminal pornographer, and an extortionist.” Similar claims cost Thompson $50,000 in 2005, when his insurance company paid Kent that amount of money in order to settle the previous libel lawsuit'
That doesn't mean it's a conspiracy, but it does mean that we are starting to learn facts about Thompson that he would rather we didn't know, Thompson claimed he had 'nothing to hide' when he mentioned Best Buys donations to the NIMF, so it's interesting to note his selective amnesia when it came to this case.
Wow, I'd check what his insurance company is and dump any stock that I have there... but I don't have any stock left. Had to dump it all for school. Of course by now, his insurance company might have dumped him for reckless behavior.
Correction! It was a box of Cracker Jack. ;P
Yes. That makes perfect sense.
Actually, the Florida Bar isn’t yet directly implicated. It’s actually the Ad Hoc Committee on Attorney Admissions, Peer Review, and Attorney Grievance for the Southern District, the federal equivalent of the Florida Bar.
Whoops! Thanks for clearing that up. I thought he was running in circles in the state courts...
And the Committee, in addition to referring the matter to the Florida Bar if they so choose, can revoke any admission to practice before the court currently granted Mr. Thompson. He’d still be a Florida-licensed attorney able to pratice in Florida state courts but he’d be unable to pratice in the Southern District (i.e., federal court).
So basically what happened to him in Alabama, only on a wider scale. ;)
First off, thanks for stopping by!
I will see what I can do about having a short story on www.nationalgaynews.com, if I am not too busy criminally trafficking in obscenity and serially destroying the world
They *are* time consuming endeavors, aren't they? JT must drink a lot of Jesus juice to keep his strength up to oppose the mighty armies of hell that seem to be allied against him... :p
if a judge were required to recuse whenever a litigant threatened to sue him, disgruntled parties would be able to forum shop…
I like this judge. He doesn't take crap, and he keeps his cool when slapping someone around.
The last judge JT faced got wound up too easily.
I have three theories as to why he uses it:
1) The most likely reason is, he is using it as an insult in this context(and the previous one). Like tauntingly calling someone schnookums(i.e. schnookums wanta cry like a little deject *censored* *censored*), but due to the limitations of the written word(at least in a forum/blog/message board context) he can't adequately convey his sarcasm and contempt.
2) He is trying to get a rise out of Dennis, either by insinuating Dennis is gay or by not giving him the proper amount of respect a journalist, no a human being, is due.
3) He is using the 'kill them with kindness' tactic.
Yes, 3L's wouldn't make the same mistakes. I'm a 3L in law school, and one of the first things I learned about practicing law is this: "The judge is in charge." Always. It's called "discretion," and the court almost always has it. It's almost impossible to reverse a case on a discretion call. That being so, one of the most self-destructive things you can do is make the judge mad. This is why I have always been confused by Mr. Thompson's behavior.
@ The_Attorney, orangekrush, and Norm_Kent:
Thanks for representing my future profession in a positive light. Isn't it always the way that the bad lawyers get the press and the good ones go unnoticed? Lawyers like y'all make me feel a tad better about the bad reputation that some in our profession give our calling. However, the behavior of the bad ones should be taught to us in law school as examples of what NOT to be. (Seen the four YouTube videos of the drunk lawyer in Nevada? Look it up sometime. It's both hilarious and horrifying.) Perhaps I'll do my presentation in Civil Rights Law on the right to adequate legal representation, with a focus on certain current events and attorneys who have been in hot water. It's an idea.
BurnKitty
"Therefore, since this court has now insinuated itself into an expanded use of
“discipline” to try to silence and punish Thompson for clearly First Amendment speech"
He is not facing this new ad hoc committee because of the first amendment. It is his garrish grand standing, false statements and general ass hattery that are earning him this.....AND.........
Filing 14 separate responses to one request? That is awesome. I wish I knew what each of those 14 had in them that was so important that it couldn't be thought out and written in one single response to the court. The 14 filings are pissing this judge off and for good reason. I can't imagine Jack's real life trolling are helping either, especially trying to sue the judge in your case. In the immortal words of Homer Simpson - D'oh!
Although, if he keeps his ability (legally) to practice law much longer, I'm going to have to start quizzing the few lawyers I know, finding out whether they, too, only keep their law practices running though smoke and mirrors.
;-P
I think too many of us give insane people too little credit. Crazy people--and darn, but now JT's the least personable crazy guy I know, too--aren't all stupid or unable to survive in normal means and professions. Those with less severe versions of disorders can be quite successful in intellectually-demanding professions, so long as the areas of their problems aren't brought into the open.
Basically, Jack doomed himself to be called out as a nutso, since he chose to litigate the things that bother his narcissistic, paranoid disorder self. By putting his obsessions out in the open, he's made it quites clear that he's not right-minded. There are a lot of types of crazy, and most of them don't destroy the ability to blame someone for their crimes (see: sociopaths and psychopaths). People who are crazy the way JT's crazy--such that it lets them live seemingly-normal lives--don't get a free pass for their insanity, they're just as culpable for their actions as the rest of us.
[i]Sweetie?...[/i]
Are...Are we sure he's not gay?
[b][i]SWEETIE?[/i][/b]
Also, Jack, um, I don't have a legal degree, but I think that's an impossibilty in court...
Sweetie?
Sweetie?…
Are…Are we sure he’s not gay?
SWEETIE?
Also, Jack, um, I don’t have a legal degree, but I think that’s an impossibilty in court…
The link you seek is here:
http://jaablog.jaablaw.com/2007/07/31/broward-attorney-sidesteps-charges...
There's all sorts of stuff in there - I believe his threat to sue is around page 3 in threaded view.
"Jack Thompson, Persecuted Martyr"?
"Jack Thompson, Certified Sane (Really!)"
"Jack Thompson, Anti Videogane Expert" (He seems to be as unsure about what the word "expert" means as he about winning legal strategies.
Or maybe "Jack Thompson, Will Rant for Food"
Well played, sir =)
Dennis, I hope he's at least bought you some flowers and taken you to a nice restaurant if he's calling you "Sweetie" in public now.
"Jack Thompson, unrivaled douchebag and you're not!"
"Jack Thompson, unemployed divorcee and you're not!"
I could do this all day! :)
ZING!!!!