
Right about now, controversial attorney Jack Thompson should be standing before a federal judge in Miami.
Judge Adalberto Jordan, lately the target of Thompson's intense vitriol, has scheduled a 9:30 hearing for this morning.
Jordan will give Thompson an opportunity to explain why he shouldn't be referred to an
ad hoc disciplinary committee for adding hardcore gay porn to the court docket in a September 24th filing.
Judge Jordan will also hear an argument from the defendants (the Florida Bar and Judge Dava Tunis, the referee in Thompson’s Bar disciplinary trial) to dismiss the case.
Late yesterday Thompson filed a motion with Chief Judge Frederico Moreno in a bid to have Judge Jordan removed from the case. From here it looks like just another attempt to delay the inevitable.
GP: Here's the betting line on Thompson's day in court:
1.) Judge Jordan will remain with the case
2.) Thompson will be referred to the disciplinary committee
3.) Judge Jordan will dismiss Thompson's case against the Florida Bar with prejudice
4.) Thompson won't go away quietly
Credit where it's due Dept: The image originated with one of the Jack
Thompson PhotoShop contest finalists on ExtraLife. Check 'em out!
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I like import beer as much as the next guy, but I got to say the best beer for buttery popcorn is Boulevard Wheat. I think it is unique to Oklahoma, but maybe not.
Na na na na,
Na na na na,
Hey hey hey!
Good-bye!
Oh, and re: the Photoshop, someone actually did a pretty good illustration of JT in that pose which looks more put-together. Sorry I don't have a link to it....
So.. who's got the camera on the inside?
"Kids, leave the lawyering to lawyers. I’ll leave the mind numbing games to you all." Thanks. That is all we ever wanted. Leave our games alone, just keep lawyering (is that even a verb?) and looking at gay porn.
@ ApokalypseNow
I never thought to look at the packaging. I'm originally from Chicago and Cape Coral, FL, so I never saw the stuff before.
LOVELY separation of Church and State there.
Agreed. I just was rather taken aback by that first post; It was more civil then I've come to expect from Jack. I admit, for a half-second there I'd hoped he would settle down and pursue his crusade with more professionalism. Unfortunately, I've been skimming the rest of the posts, and it seems, since that first post, apparently old jack is back
"Whiners!!!!!
I won, and you’ll have to deal with it. Jack Thompson"
(sigh)
Not sure what I was hoping for really. You know what they say about leopards.
That's what I'm thinking: This hearing is only about that gay porn mess, the much bigger picture, the one which can kill Jack's career in a blink, is still going strong.
In fact, now I'm wondering if part of the reason Jack got off the hook is because he's so clearly doomed otherwise that the judge sees no point in following this. I mean, why waste time and money slapping him around over gay porn if he's about to get disbarred anyway? Might as well jump straight to the important part.
Question, though... how binding is Jack's promise to not do stupid crap like filing porn again? How much trouble would he (or, more likely, WILL he) be in if/when he breaks it? It it just basically a mark against him for the next judge to consider?
Could they impose a fine or put him in jail?
See, this is the part you can play Queen songs and let your Millitant/Stalinist side out. MUHAHAHA!!
I reccomend Nightfall In Middle Earth.
We will, we will, rock you!
You got mud on your face
You big disgrace
Somebody better put you back in your place
We will, we will, rock you!
We will, we will, rock you!
Welcome to the Jungle is good, but not very relevant.
'Cause I ate half a million Chalupas
And I got fat!
I sued Panasonic
They never said I shouldn't use their microwave
To dry off my cat
Huh, I sued Earthlink
'Cause I called them up
N' they had the nerve to put me on hold
I sued Starbucks
'Cause I spilled a Frappucino in my lap
And brrr, it was cold!
I sued Toys'R'Us
'Cause I swallowed a Nerf ball
And nearly choked to death
Ugh, I sued PetCo
'Cause I ate a bag of kitty litter
And now I got bad breath!
I sued Coca-Cola, yo
'Cause I put my finger down in a bottle
And it got stuck!
I sued Delta Airlines
'Cause they sold me a ticket to New Jersey
I went there, and it sucked!
Yeah!!!
If you stand me up on a date
If you deliver my pizza 30 seconds late
I'm gonna sue, sue
Yes, I'm gonna sue
Sue, sue, yeah that's what I'm gonna do
I'm gonna sue, sue
Yes, I'm gonna sue
Sue, sue, yeah I might even sue you!
Ugh!!
I sued Duracell
They never told me not to shove that double-A
Right up my nose
I sued Home Depot
'Cause they sold me a hammer
Which they knew I might drop on my toes
I sued Dell Computers
'Cause I took a bath with my laptop
Now it doesn't work
I sued Fruit of the Loom
'Cause when I wear their tightie-whities on my head
I look like a jerk
I sued Verizon
'Cause I get all depressed
Any time my cell phone is roaming
I sued Colorado
'Cause you know, I think it looks a little bit too much
Like Wyoming
I sued Neiman Marcus
'Cause they put up their Christmas decorations
Way out of season
I sued Ben Affleck
...
Aw, do I even need a reason?
Ugh!
If I sprain my ankle
While I'm robbing your place
If I hurt my knuckles
When I punch you in the face
I'm gonna sue, sue
Yes, I'm gonna sue
Sue, sue, yeah that's what I'm gonna do
I'm gonna sue, sue
Yes, I'm gonna sue
Sue, sue, that's right I'm gonna sue you
Ugh!
Ugh!
Ugh!
I'll sue ya!
I'll take all of your money
I'll sue ya!
If you even look at me funny
I'll sue ya!
I'll take all of your money
I'll sue ya!
If you even look at me funny
I'll sue ya!
I'll take all of your money
I'll sue ya!
If you even look at me funny
I'll sue ya!
I'll take all of your money
I'll sue ya!
If you even look at me funny
I'll sue ya!
Ha-ha ha ha-haa
I'll sue ya!
What'chall think of that?
I'll sue ya!
Ha-ha ha ha-haa
Boo ya!
I'll sue ya!
Ugh!
Even if he is disbarred, this wacko is on a crusade in his own mind. I'm surprised Bush hasn't offered him a job as Secretary of Decency or something like that.
Hope you don't mind Dennis, but i'm gonna have to use this page for that.
You mean Secretary of Defense.
Hear that... the bell tolls for Jackie boy.
One Vision by Laibach. Totally fits. I may be up late tonight waiting for updates to this. How long is the hearing supposed to last?
Or you could take the Bender approach to that quote:
"Ask not for whom the bone bones - it bones for thee!"
I say this because JBT is well and truly boned.
Haha...good call.
I think that hopefully Jack Thompson will maybe face his final defeat soon. It might be today, or tomorrow, or next week, or soon. I think that Jack Thompson has lost his so-called "Gamer-Antigamer War", because he is facing too many defeats of his hands. The only case he ever won, besides the 2 Live Crew case, was the "Hot Coffee" scandal in GTA: San Andreas. But, he did not have the game removed, the only thing, he had done with it, was removed the content of the "Hot Coffee" mission (It is true, that temporarily, there was an AO rated version of the game, that had the "Hot Coffee" content, but a few months later, there were no more copies of the AO rated version in stores) in the M rated version of the game. I think that Jack Thompson will soon be defeated in this so-called "war" of his.
^^ That is the themesong!
Even that's a bit of a hollow victory as I'm sure R* would of removed the content themselves to bump the game down to "M" instead of "AO" which most shops refuse to sell.
Ooh, i'm the 999,999th visitor. I won! But I can't be arsed to claim.
I'm just going to assume that you're referring to an ad I didn't see due to using FireFox with AdBlockPlus installed.
Yep. I hate IE.
(I'm in a very good mood today! Which usually means I start spamming at some point)
Must go faster... feel the need to see him broken upon a stack of old xbox's and flogged with wired controllers (interesting mental picture if nothing else).
I am Not really that vicious but it did sound good for a moment.
Please. Pummeled with 10,000 watermelons is a much better image. Funny too.
Thompson successfully got Howard Stern off the South Florida radio market back around 2003. The guy knows how to stir things up to remain a threat to the First Amendment.
@KGB BlackIce Division
I meant to write "Secretary of Decency." I made up the title just to prove a point. I'm not sure if you were correcting me or making a point yourself;)
I was making a point.
The parts about the dark lord taking everything and especially "Don't dare me the mighty one screamed" (if one edits in crazy after mighty) along with the part in the chorus that goes "Rise of fall, a dark tale ends". Last good part is towards the end where it goes "the sun went down beyond the sea, dark was the hour but day shall come again"
Trying to come up with a better theme song, but nothing's coming to mind, then again the song is now stuck in my head so I can't really think of any other song right now.
I'm not really a gamer, I'm just worried about my own media. Thank you GP!
Here it thought I was the only person on earth who loved Blind Guardian ;)
There are more of us BG fans than people suspect. ;)
I come from more or less the same school of thought as you, I'm not a heavy gamer, though I'll admit to enjoying computer games, but I really do think that most censors are either completely blinkered to the larger effects of their little crusades, hope to profit from them, or care little about them, and it is that which concerns me more than the 'little picture' of video games.
Everyone knows that 'an avalanche starts with a snowflake', and people who say 'it'll never get that bad' could probably do well reading up on history, because 90% of the time, once that avalanche starts, it nearly always gets that bad.
What concerns me about Jack Thompson is the fact that a man has been demanding people's names and addresses, attacking us for being 'cowards' for not giving them to him, and now it turns out he already has one restraining order against him. THAT is why we remain anonymous Mr Thompson, because you never know what kind of stalkers and nutcases are out there...
LOSING the war, not LOOSING the war
As for the sentiment of that statement, as long as that war is being prosecuted by someone as incompetent as JBT, you can rest easy.
Tell that to the people in Iraq.
I wasn't talking about the nebulous "War on Terror" being prosecuted by our equally-incompetent president, I was talking about the less-published war on our rights as citizens.
That song rocked!
I'd say it is debatable which one is more incompetent there - JT's got the market cornered on crazy, but Dubya's got the edge in stupid.
While this looks like the end of Jack in the next three months. (A case agianst him for each month.)
He's known to some how wiggle out of the hot seat all the time....This seems unlikely he can pull it off at this time....But you never know.
He's already trying to hold into his lisence by delaying his cases at every turn.
Thanks but I can't take the credit. It was written by Weird Al Yankovic
@ApokalypseNow
Imagine if they had a kid together
@All the soldiers on here. Sing that when Bin Liner tries a pitched battle.
I can't wait to see what happens today. *breaks out the popcorn and lawnchair*
I'm in, hook me up. I've been watching what I eat lately, but this situation is too good not to enjoy to the fullest.
I'm opening the bar, trying to decide which beer goes best with salty, buttery popcorn. I don't know that anything darker than a brown ale would do... thoughts?
Over here! I brought booze! Vodka and Whiskey! Rum and Lager!
Hmm not sure if it will be a "great victory" or blah blah "Judge Jordan was against Him", "there is a conspiricy", "going to sue him", "incapable of seeing the truth" etc etc.
Either way though, yeah I would expect to hear something. JT seems to be incapable of remaining low key for long.
Well, if you're going for the hard stuff, I think a Gin & Tonic or a Martini would go well with the popcorn, or perhaps a good Canadian Whiskey or a Rye Whiskey of some kind.
I'm good. Like Hyde said to Fez in that 70's show when Fez asked if there was anything he needed to know about Canada "Canadian beer is stronger, as a result their women look prettier". Nowhere in Canada is beer better than in Quebec.
But what about the Rum?
Errr did you mention Rum? uummm is a bit early to be toasting his demise..... he contorts more then an earthworm. But I would not mind having a spot of that to toast his undenible wish to make a fool of himself in court and to wish him more of the same :)
Depends on the rum, I'm a bit particular about it. My pick would be Cruzan Single Barrel Estate - excellent to drink on its own with cheese and crackers, and would probably work with popcorn as well. It also makes the best rum&coke you've ever tasted.
After that all judges' gavels will be equipped with thos chains that you see at banks on the pens, only stronger.
I think Jack will once again fail to show cause and be held in contempt of court. Then all his court documents will have to be handwritten from the jail cell and notarized by a third party attorney before being submitted.
Update there says that Thompson has been referred to the Disciplinary Committee, and the judge has denied the motion for recusal.
That article was from the 2nd -- it's not from today's proceedings.
*continues to wait, wondering just what shenanigans JT will pull this time*
I believe it's a follow up to the article posted on the 2nd.
I lol'd.
No problem. Considering all of the information out there to read today on JT, including that 22 page PDF from him suing the Alabama Bar, it's easy to get your signals crossed. I had to stare at a blank wall for a few minutes to repair my brain after that read...
I'll go with those, and I mean that I bet those will happen too =p
Knowing Jack, he'll bring a ball-gag, but sadly, won't use it.
I will be waiting the good news.
That being said, kudos on the photoshopped graphic. That's one of the better Thompson story graphics I've ever seen.
I'm sure there's SOMETHING in newgrounds... maybe.
Maybe he'll learn where Belgium is, soo.
Edit Button!
Jack's such an unappreciated artist. None of you have any idea how much work it is to paint oneself into a corner, like he has in this case.
No, Boulevard is produced in Kansas City, so it gets around. We used to get pony-kegs of the stuff for parties in college, since none of my friends would dare drink American Light Lagers (ie. Bud, Miller, and their ilk).
The judge started out by suggesting that he did not feel comfortable doing so unless I admitted I had done something wrong. I said I did nothing wrong and would not admit that I did. He asked, "Then how do I know you won't do it again."
I pointed out to him that Christ said, "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar and unto God what is God's." Christ, then, was making it clear that people of faith are not free to disobey civil authority, and if he now entered a court order for me not to do this, then I would not, as Christians are not free to disobey the law without consequences. But I told him he could not order me to say I did something wrong, because as a matter of conscience I could not do so.
That obviously satisfied him, and he voided out the entire disciplinary matter. Norm Kent was there, which was hilarious, having moved the court last night at 10:30 pm to let him "intervene" and appear before the disciplinary committee against me. Poor Norm, he went away from the hearing sad.
As to the Bar's motion to dismiss, the judge will rule in two weeks. I expect to receive from the court certain federal relief against this Bar. You all don't know the case, and I do. Norm Kent, who is now unofficial legal consultatnt to Dennis McCauley as to all things "Jack" smugly predicted here and elsewhere that this disciplinary blow by Judge Jordan was sure to unravel everything for me.'
Now the disciplinary matter does not even exist. How did that prediction turn out for Norm and Dennis?
Kids, leave the lawyering to lawyers. I'll leave the mind numbing games to you all.
I had a great day, standing before a federal judge for a 2 hour and 45 minute hearing, and I did just fine. Even Norm Kent would have to admit that.
Besides, Norm is a Yankee fan, and grew up in Cleveland. I'm having a very good 24 hours. Jack Thompson, Attorney and You're Not
Well i would imagine Denis will give us the results as soon as he hears them... it's unknown how long they could be in court for. One thing we do know, is that Jack probably won't hesitate to post about his "victory", but would keep his trap shut in the case of a loss (unless he had a way of spinning into being a good thing, like what Phantom said)... So, as long as we don't hear from him, we can either assume that he is still stuck in court with the case still going on, or he got slapped with a major loss
And the Story Ends
Fits the situation perfectly.
With all offense intended, I'll wait until someone with a shred of honesty posts today's results. And even if you did have this indiscretion vacated, you are far from off the hook.
So, you're basically saying that you're better than Jesus now? Since your conscience apparently tells you 'I can do no wrong,' even when you ARE challenging civil authority? A christian who is better than all other christians... Nice way to present yourself.
You disgust me with your use of the Bible or the term "Christian" that you continue to apply to yourself. The hate-filled words you have for people who play video games shows just how very anti-Christian you really are. Seriously, please stop using inappropriate terms for yourself.
Leave the lawyering to lawyers. Ha then leave the Psychology to the Psychologist and the Neuroscience to the Neuroscientist.
Well some lawyer you are. have u even won a case?
We all know Jack has selective hearing and reading skills. For all we know it was like that Raisin Bran Crunch Commercial and he heard is completely different than what he telling us.
I find it more likely that Judge Jordan's reaction was a goode olde facepalm but he is a nice guy and he hid that so that you wouldn't go postal in court.
don't worry the fire is comming down latter.
Basically you said "There isn't anything wrong with what I did." but the evidence against you is so strong that your answer (I said/wrote "answer" not "crime") is akin to a porymaniac (spelling for a poor third world coutry resident? (frenchie)) saying "I see nothing wrong with buring things when they are people in them.".
Down to the ground, you are in the unholy shit you dumped on the court.
This is sad, I rather liked you, you were ballsy and a boon to the video game industry simply because your stupid statements made them pass for heroic (while they simply are normal) and your slander was so much fun to read.
I am going to paraphrase another GP poster by saying that "[it was like watching a kid playing with a loaded handgun, you should take it away but the possibilities are just too amusing.]" (square brakets for unsure quoting).
And even if you get out of that one, I can still see M$ falling on you like a pile of paralepipedic giant space ring building material. With added hot plasma. And cream.
fixed that for you
Guess what! That means the government stays out of morals and everything you've been doing is moot.
What are you talking about when you say 'the possiblities are too amusing'? Normally I would agree; but one of them is YOU gettting shot, nevermind the damn kid.
Frankly I'm surprised JT showed up, being rather busy with real work an' all. Not that I need him completely grilled just yet. As we are seeing in other topics, Grossman is someone people listen to by the looks of things.
While I can understand someone refusing to say they were morally wrong, you refuse to say you were wrong in both a moral or professional capacity. And basically said, "I won't do it again." Which time will tell whether or not it's a lie.
The judge was extremely gracious in not pursuing the matter. What you did was unprofessional and lacking in any ethics a lawyer should have. It was sensationalist and attention-seeking.
I will leave the massacre-chasing to you, Chump Thompson.
And furthermore, have you learned your lesson about what you can and can't put into a .pdf to the court? Just what will happen if, in fact, you "do it again"?
And what's with the totally out-of-left-field baseball reference? More random, unchristian-like gloating? Jack, you seem to be going out of your way to break as many Bible commandments as you can here. How can you call yourself a Christian? 2 Timothy 3:1-5 seems to be doing a good job of describing you.
Of course one of the possiblilities is the kid shooting at me but I got all that video games training so I can dodge bullets! And as a plus I am hiding behind something so I can duck it out (and latter duke it out).
And my spelling goes to the dogs too...
I really hope you get out of there alive Jack. I want you to destroy your team all over again.
Hey, "JT, the ultimate TKer." sounds good.
Even assuming you can be trusted here, and that's a big if, what have you really won?
The images are going to be stricken from the record, and even if YOU don't think you were in the wrong, the judge KNOWS you were. And it still doesn't sound like you presented any kind of good reason to do that, especially if you got a court order against you not to do it again.
This is certainly going to hurt you when the decision comes whether to dismiss the case or not (and I don't see you crowing quite so much in two weeks).
Plus, you have a history of not honoring your agreements (see your settlement with Rockstar). You're going to pull this again, and you're going to be in IMMEDIATE trouble then because you've just violated a court order.
As well, how do you think ANY of this looks in terms of the pending decision as to whether to disbar you or not? And with things like this, attempting to argue that a disbarment came out of a breach of your civil rights is going to be laughed out of court.
So go ahead, call this a victory if you want. All you did is barely scrape out of trouble that you put yourself into. And you're still at a disadvantage for it.
I won, and you'll have to deal with it. Jack Thompson
Is paying out another libel settlement to Norm Kent part of the deal? Last one was twice what you squeezed out of the Florida Bar ... I wonder how much this one will be. Speaking of the FL Bar, remind me why you're in front of Judge Jordan in the first place?
Off to spread more lies and misinformation are you?
But we aren't really worried. Even if you don't get disbarred you are an old man. God will soon make it that you are no longer around to take his name in vain.
We wish. Oh GOD, do we ever wish. But it's obviously not happening.
2.5 hours of jack ranting and every time he was interupted he would Judge..Judge...Judge
I don't think we're quite getting the whole story here.
Also, despite the lack of direct insults, his post veered again towards the less civil version of JT we all know.
And altough I know with all my heart that we can talk as much sense and wisdom that is possible into his mind, it won't do any good. He'll still fancy himself a god (yes, the ultra-megalomania he exibits always seems to kick up a bit - and I can make up words too :P), and try to belittle us. Our mind numbing games? Your mind numbing religion. Opinions, both expressable. Attorney, and you're not? I can do that too. Possible lies (regarding that he won't do it again and up to total distortion of facts)? Of course, can't have JT without the lies. And you can't tell him to stop doing it in the same way you can tell the planet to stop revolving around the sun.
Korax, Rational (and also Plastics Engineer) and You're Not (both)
You have lied constantly in the past (although you do not believe you did and will never admit to it), and we have no precedence to expect any words of truth from you. We'll wait to hear from an honest Lawyer. Which at the moment, Ain't you!
"The judge started out by suggesting that he did not feel comfortable doing so unless I admitted I had done something wrong. I said I did nothing wrong and would not admit that I did. He asked, “Then how do I know you won’t do it again.”
So the judge asked "Are you guilty?" and you answered "No." What a brilliant legal strategy there. I wonder if this would work in a murder case. "Did you kill that man?" "No." "Alright case closed".
"Besides, Norm is a Yankee fan, and grew up in Cleveland. I’m having a very good 24 hours. Jack Thompson, Attorney and You’re Not"
You watch sports? You do know that there is a link between sports and aggression don't you?
Name, Mr. Thompson, and time and channel.
Our version of "Pix or it didn't happen.".
Nah, couldn't be, you'd have to be crazy-sane to have the power of awesome, you can't be crazy-stupid and say "OMFG CHIRST!" and get away with it.
Ah, this 'twas a good day indeed. I got freakin' awesome grades in my worst classes, Hackofalawyer Thompson went court and a new game came out for the Wii. Party at my place people!
The only thing you've "won" is you won't have disciplinary proceedings against you for sending hardcore gay porn to a federal judge. You still have, what, 40 or so charges pending against you from the Florida Bar, do you not?
That's really some "victory" there.
So feed us bitch.
There's no doubt a lot more was said in that courtroom than is being let on by Thompson, I've seen him completely fabricate stories enough times not to trust him, either on the court result or the TV appearance, he may have simply added that to wind people up, it's his kind of mentality.
I suspect that, at the very least, Thompson got a damn good lecture on proper professional conduct, which he will inevitably ignore by the stage that the other proceedings arise, and that's not mentioning the Alabama stuff.
I will certainly wait on a lot more details than Thompsons' 'word' before I believe anything regarding him :)
Remember, Jack, just because you THINK something is true, or someone writes an article with their THEORY on a link between video games and violence, it doesn't make it a "fact".
Be careful what you say tomorrow.
he screams about how evil japan is and how primitve the rest of the world is.example the mongolia comment. I would not be suprised if he thought borat was a real reprasenitve of kazickstan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlFXF2o9R8k
Acutally I have long thought it was JT's son (the agent of the "Stings") I have read the posts and the arguements he has offered here; and well... they were not what you would consider well mannered, eloquent or particulary intelligent. This from someone that is supposedly a lawyer. Maybe he is just a jerk though
In school he would be the one with the folder marked "Does not play well with others"
Of course some games are mind-numbing, but no more then some movies. Mind you I personally avoid such games, I want my entertainment to catch my attention, like JT for example.
*turns to his honoured /b/rotha, thinks on what he said, and grins*
Nice one mate.
I would like to get a report from a reliable source, but if this is the case, Jack's really only sidestepped the bullet for the time being. Still, I will admit it's something of an annoyance; sooner or later Jack really does need to be punished for acting the way he does. It's the only way he might actually learn.
You haven't been here long, have you? :P
The rules apply everywhere. Especialy since the /b/oards are rather messy places. A empirical (as in against trust) rule like that is the /b/ equivalent to Ocam's Razor.
And Mr. Thompson, we are still waiting for the data about that appereance on TV.
October 9th, 2007 at 4:35 pm
"I’m delighted to announce that Judge Jordan vacated his order regarding referring me to the disciplinary committee, and he decided to forego all disciplinary remedies."
Mainly because it wasn't worth his time eh Jackass?
"The judge started out by suggesting that he did not feel comfortable doing so unless I admitted I had done something wrong. I said I did nothing wrong and would not admit that I did. He asked, “Then how do I know you won’t do it again.”
This is classic, for many reasons. It means that he's not going to punish you because you, being a retard with a mental maturity of a five year old, don't know that what YOU have done is wrong. Yet still you come here and lecture us about 'mind numbing video games'.
"I pointed out to him that Christ said, “Render unto Caesar what is Caesar and unto God what is God’s.” Christ, then, was making it clear that people of faith are not free to disobey civil authority, and if he now entered a court order for me not to do this, then I would not, as Christians are not free to disobey the law without consequences. But I told him he could not order me to say I did something wrong, because as a matter of conscience I could not do so."
Oh wow, the good old 'hide behind faith' dodge. Hey, when was the last time you saw Tammy Faye and her husband?
That obviously satisfied him, and he voided out the entire disciplinary matter. Norm Kent was there, which was hilarious, having moved the court last night at 10:30 pm to let him “intervene” and appear before the disciplinary committee against me. Poor Norm, he went away from the hearing sad.
Completely pointless, no one cares. You will be fucked soon enough JackAss.
"As to the Bar’s motion to dismiss, the judge will rule in two weeks. I expect to receive from the court certain federal relief against this Bar. You all don’t know the case, and I do. Norm Kent, who is now unofficial legal consultatnt to Dennis McCauley as to all things “Jack” smugly predicted here and elsewhere that this disciplinary blow by Judge Jordan was sure to unravel everything for me.’"
You unravel everything for yourself Jack, you don't need help.
Now the disciplinary matter does not even exist. How did that prediction turn out for Norm and Dennis?
Kids, leave the lawyering to lawyers. I’ll leave the mind numbing games to you all.
I had a great day, standing before a federal judge for a 2 hour and 45 minute hearing, and I did just fine. Even Norm Kent would have to admit that.
Besides, Norm is a Yankee fan, and grew up in Cleveland. I’m having a very good 24 hours. Jack Thompson, Attorney and You’re Not
Jack, these last four paragraphs were so idiotic that I can't even begin to put it into writing.
Too much precedent, not enough profit.
So why can't we use the same precedent to get Mr. Thompson to stop filing these stupid lawsuits against the game industry?
Aww darn... and I was looking forward to the latest edition of Austin Lewis Rips Apart Jack Thompson's Posts Weekly.
But then I suppose by this point instead of pitching it to us he just sets up a Tee-ball tee and gives you a gigantic metal bat to swing at it with.
And no, I ceertainly don't believe your version of events, even if they are true. Nor should the judge believe that you won't do it again. You've already admitted that you weren't sorry that you did it and that you were prepared to go to jail over it. Either you showed your true colors as a coward and backed down from that stance, or you kissed his arse raw.
As to your claim to be going on another national TV show, it's not a surprise either. Mentally raping every tragedy that exists to force your personal, religious, and/or political beliefs on others like the Tin-Pot-Dictator-Wannabe that you are is nothing new for you. Quite frankly, you're predictable. You lie, you deceive, you abuse the communities, families and individuals who've suffered various tragedies like it were some ultra perverted fetish (somewhat similar to a mental forced S&M, rape, and snuff fetish all rolled into one).
The Truth, The Whole Truth, And Nothing But The Truth is clearly unknown to either you or that Demon-Pretender-To-The-Throne-Of-Heaven that you worship. So I can easily predict misinformation spewed by you along with a great deal of lying and deceiving the general public no matter what show it may be.
And, interestingly enough, it's reported that Lyndon LaRouche is going to be holding a webcast tomorrow night as well. You've already claimed you have nothing to do with them, but it wouldn't surprise me one little bit if you showed up on their webcast one way or another.
Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
"Having shared with you all the fabulous news today, I’m gone, off to New York tomorrow to appear on a network television program about video games. Hooah!"
... maybe I'm missing something here, but this seems a little inconsistant. Now if I could just find the "press" button in this lawyering game...
Oh well, Jack logic, what can you do.
And then right after: "...off to New York tomorrow to appear on a network television program about video games. Hooah!"
Didn't leave the games to us after all, Jack. Guess we'll get back to lawyering!
Cuz I wanna email the shows producers all the documents and data that we have on Thompson. Please help me if you do feel inclined.
Thing is, there's a lot of precedent for failure when suing TV and Music interests, even those that succeed have a very high appeal success rate. Videogames don't have that history at the civil level yet, though they are gaining it at state-level.
Unfortunately, because of the way the Law works these days, there are those who spend their time trying to exploit the loopholes for profit. Like most large creatures, the Law has its parasites.
Problem is, whilst we may hate Thompsons' stance and approach, and lack of professionalism that he displays 99% of the time, we can't deny him the right to state his personal opinion, even though he states it pretty obnoxiously most of the time.
Oddly enough, these people tend to try and find loopholes in what many consider to be 'holy' laws, like 'thou shalt not kill'.... 'Oh no your honour, my client didn't kill, Corporations killed the victim by remote control, using my clients body as nothing more but an Avatar of their evil intent.'
In many ways, it's the 'Possession' plea, 'I didn't do it, there was an evil force inside me, controlling me', which doesn't really belong in a court of law anywhere.
These are the sort of pleas and assumptions I see about violent Video Games, that they are an 'evil controlling force' that 'brainwash innocent children'. Not only does the real world do a perfectly good job of brainwashing innocent children, but I personally feel that all this obsession over finding some kind of Media based cause to blame is actually letting the children down, there's far more productive things that could be done with all this time, money and energy, even Thompsons', than fighting spectres of opinions about new-fangled gadgetry. The problem is an old one, so is the cause.
It would be far better if this energy were spent on education and dealing with poverty in the US, and would have a far more noticeable impact on crime and violence than any amount of governmental baby-sitting.
It's case 1-07-cv-21256 in the southern district of Florida if anyone else wants to try their luck.
Wasn't this hearing only about that little gay porn stunt Jack pulled? If that's the case, didn't Jack Thompson's "win" here only save him from that and not from the misconduct charges he already has? And been trying to stall for quite some time now, might I add.
in other words: isn't this nothing more than a small diversion from a larger case?
If that's the case, I must say I'm quite unimpressed by the so-called victory.
But that's in either the KJV or the NIV of the bible... I don't think that's in the JBTV (John B. Thompson Version) of the bible... (I'll do unto others however the f*** I want, and screw the rest of you.)
@Anon:
On the flip side, I'm kinda surprised myself, usually he sends Dennis a love letter/press release with what time and everything, doesn't he? :P
So basically, we have to get the news from Jack, Norm, or we have to have a guy there with good hearing who takes notes. le sigh. Remind me what century we're in?
We have until sometime tomorrow to find out what show he is on so hopefully someone will have some idea what TV show he will be on and maybe just maybe someone can Tear this idiot a new one with some actual tough questions instead of cut at with a knife made from toilet paper.
When have you apologized for anything ever? Like telling a gamer to kill themselves. Or telling a husband of a gamer that you hope said wife dies since she is a gamer. Or your total and utter lack of tact in the news story about Gamerdad.
How about this. We get an apology for all the bullshit that you've said over the years and then we will see if we can prod an apology out of Mr. Kent.
Also as far as us being whiners and you winning. You have just managed to dodge the bullet on being a pornographer. All of the many many issues that were being brought against you prior to that mentally retarded stunt are still in play.
Also do please stop holding Jesus hostage. Every time you claim him as being responsible for your horrible and unprofessional actions all I can picture is you holding a gun to his head. Do please have more respect for your savior.
He's been doing so for the past few posts.
Gives me a little bit of an uneasy feeling.
Perhaps he's trying to get the REAL story, since I'm pretty sure that Jack "I'm a dousche" Thompson is lying.
~Otaku-Man
Jesus also said: "Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again." So give me all of your money.
Also, learn to capitalize your name. Capitalization is the key difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off a horse" and... I'll leave the rest for you to figure out. If your name is legally spelled lowercase, don't go horseback riding anytime soon.
Damn you no edit button!!
Just stop. I'm here at work snorting with laughter at the thought of jack doing unnatural things to a horse.
Well normally I wouldn't dream of someone like him engaging in said activities... but after his last stunt, it makes ya wonder, huh?
I think Jack is lying.
~Otaku-Man
Cuz I wanna email the shows producers all the documents and data that we have on Thompson. Please help me if you do feel inclined.
It doesn't matter. Anyone can spend 10 minutes googling Jacko and find out all about him. Anyone that asks Jacko to be on their show at this point knows about Jacko and doesn't care. They just want to cause controversy.
Hear Hear! I want proof!
I'll leave nothing to you, pitiful example of a failure is all you are.
You think that because you recited a few bible verses that the issue is gone? F---ing wrong. you won't receieve ANY money from the bar because the bar has done nothing wrong.
You think by going on tv you are going to convince anyone that youre right?
Your lies are getting to the point where even a baby can tell that your wrong.
JT lies about evidence about games and violence. I have no reason to believe his entries and I no reason to believe it's JT. Besides, he didn't use the code word of authentication. Oh, wait! I'm not supposed to know that!
"Serious question for Dennis McCauley: When is Norm Kent going to apologize here for the wildly intemperate assertions as to this “disciplinary” problem I had in federal court, which today evaporated with Norm Kent sitting there? Jack Thompson"
You continually mention that Norm Kent was present in the room, as if that's the only detail that mattered. How about giving some actual info instead of telling us how many times you stared longingly in the corner of the room?
"Having shared with you all the fabulous news today, I’m gone, off to New York tomorrow to appear on a network television program about video games. Hooah!"
I'll bet you made that up off the top of your head. Regardless, i'll look at the schedules for the three main networks' morning shows tomorrow anyway. I can do that, along with most others here, seeing as i don't have classes until 12. That's right. We're adults too. SHOCKING, NO?
Oh, and i hope your 'network television program' isn't the 'fountain of truth' that is Fox News.
"Whiners!!!!!
I won, and you’ll have to deal with it. Jack Thompson"
Why do i feel like i'm talking to a 10-year old?
Frankly I m sick of it and I wanna make sure the producers or whomever is in charge to make sure they know who he is and his history before they start claiming him as an expert on anything. That way I will know if the people are just using him to draw ratings using his BullS***.
Come on if they have any research they would ask about his gay porn filings or really go in depth on the research conducted at Harvard. Where if we were really able to link violent criminal behavior to the right frontal lobe of the brain we would all be having brain scans and anyone showing activity in that section of the brain will be arrested.
Considering you were diluted enough to think the judge's "disgust" was with Norm Kent's "hosted gay porn images" & that it was making the case a sure win for you, maybe we should take your interpretation of how things are going seriously....
I don't start work until 3:30 PM EST. WOOT.
If it's true...I'm not suprised...he is a cockroach.
Here is a guy about to be legally beheaded by the Florida Bar announcing that the judge decided not to cut off his eyebrow. That's a metaphor only jack...
A few things, this was first of all a hearing on a motion to dismiss, and the court spent an hour asking jack to justify why his fourth amended complaint should not be dismissed with prejudice, him having numerous chances to amend without being able to state a claim that was legally sufficient.
Jack's rambling argument invoked King Canute and a number of other Biblical references that had very little to do with caselaw under what we call the rules of civil procedure.
The court said it will enter a written order in the next fourteen days after the hearing concluded, and while jack was making his argument, by reciting the bible, relating how he was living with death threats, and being denied due process, I just do not believe that within the four corners of his complaint he was able to give the court any new legal reasons why this case will not eventually be dismissed under what is known as the abstention doctrine, which means that a federal court will not intervene in an ongoing state investigatory proceding which is being conducted already by the Florida Bar.
Basically jack is arguing his civil rights are being vioated by the Supreme Court and the referee charged with trying him for professional misconduct. The judge wanted to know why he went to federal court prematurely, because the referee has not yet held his trial, and the Supreme Court has not yet made a finding based on the referee's recommendation. Jack said he is trying to get the federal court to stop the referee from trying his case because the Bar, the referee and the investigators against him are all biased because he is a Christian a, a stall tactic at best from the Florida Bar's standpoint.
Jack of course is telling the judge his constitutional rights are being violated by being subject to any discipline at all because as far as he is concerned he told the truth about everyone, all the rules are illegal, and everyone is picking on him and that he is being selectively prosecuted. Unfortunately for him, he cannot frame his argument cogently and telling the judge how he was once on sixty minutes with ed bradley and that all gamers hate him and he predicted columbine is not the kind of proof you need to make a case.
As to the show cause order, the judge did agree to vacate it as long as jack promised not to do it again, and WHEN JACK SO PROMISED, afer repeated efforts by the court to get him to do so, the judge decided to forego further referrals. That was the court's call at this time.
But the judge also refused to recuse himself from the case even though jack asked again, and the chief judge refused to remove the judge from the case even though jack asked the chief judge as well.
For jack to brag he is not facing a peer review committee from a local judicial circuit who could recommend to a judge that maybe he should not be allowed to practice in that court is like a guy who is about to go to jail for life bragging that he beat a traffic ticket................
You cannot lose sight of the fact that the reason Jack is in court in the first place is because the Florida Bar is moving against his license to practice law anywhere, and the fact is that jack is on trial in alabama this month by their bar association, in november in orlando by the florida bar, and december in broward for violating a separate show cause order.
So the judge has Jack on thin ice, and he thinks it's a victory?
this man seriously needs help.
I Still want to pursue suing Jack Thompson for being a public nuisance since well Turn about is fair Play. I m willing to start a fund just to do this.
So Jack Thompson is claiming small victories when the real battles are still yet to be fought and well He isnt even looking at whats happening with the War.
As 4 Jack Thompson rights being violated well he is trying to violate other peoples 1st amendment rights... Ironic or Poetic Justice or better yet Hypocritical?
Is there any chance that we can YouTube his hearings. It would be educational on how not to act like a lawyer and well in this day and age of reality TV, entertaining.
thanks
THanks for the info buddy.
Every time he speaks or I read his rantings in a court filing, it makes me think of what the gravemind said in halo 2.
"This one is but flesh and Faith, and all the more deluded"
They don't get more deluded then jack do they?
And why do I have the feeling his big TV appearance will involve the basement and a puppet?
"I said I did nothing wrong and would not admit that I did."
That's the problem with you, really.
Okay, it's one of them.
Jack Thompson claims a victory because he was not referred to the comittee. He got out of the trouble he got himself into. Perhaps judge Jordan, knowing he would probably dismiss Thompson's case against the Florida bar, decided that punishing Jack Thompson now is pointless when he very well might lose his license in a few weeks because of his unprofessional conduct.
I look forward to your t.v. apperance Mr. Thompson, enjoy it while you can because I doubt how you will remain an "expert" when it is known that you cannot even keep your license, much less win an actual case.
Finally, an honest unbiased viewpoint (well, maybe biased against Jack, but since when did we care about being biased against him?)
"Jack of course is telling the judge his constitutional rights are being violated by being subject to any discipline at all because as far as he is concerned he told the truth about everyone, all the rules are illegal, and everyone is picking on him and that he is being selectively prosecuted."
Why, just because he can't trample all over everyone else's rights and do whatever the f*** he wants, uncontested and without consequence? The world kinda doesn't work like that. I'm surprised he hasn't started using the cockamamie 'Games made me do it' BS defense...
"But the judge also refused to recuse himself from the case even though jack asked again, and the chief judge refused to remove the judge from the case even though jack asked the chief judge as well."
At which point Thompson kicked, screamed and cried like a small child, I'm guessing?
Anyways, thanks for the insight... which, unlike JT, is always welcome around here.
To sum up, if Jesus went and drank with prostitutes and tax collectors, surely you can refrain from insulting your fellow man for no readily apparent reason, especially seeing as you don't have any proof that negates the fact that violence happened BEFORE video games were invented.
Have you tried strengthening gun laws instead? Perhaps somehow this would prevent SHOOTINGS? Just a tad?
Humble me here. Let's pretend I'm the idiot Jack thinks I am, if only so that I can have a clear picture on this. It sounds like Judge Jordan only wrote off the complete after getting a verbal deal that he wouldn't do it again. (And - so I'm clear - the dismissed complaint=the gay porn in the court dockets complaint. Which has nothing to do with the florida bars attempts to disbar him.) I'm losing track. Is the alabama bar suing him or is he suing them? And what about that complaint the other day I heard of going before Judge Huck? Is that one still around? What's that about?
Frankly - I think I can perhaps understand why Judge Jordan did it - but if it were me, I wouldn't take his word for it. I'd slap a no-gay-porn-in-the-court-documents order on his butt.
In other words, the stuff that actually counts.
~Otaku-Man
You mean the stuff that makes him look bad? Now why would he wanna do something silly, like including that?
And since you are going to be on a game show. Might as well find out who else is playing the game. Maybe give you some more opponenets to whoop your sorry ass.
@ the readers in general:
I've been scouring the site and everything and I must be missing something.
1) When did Dennis and Mr. Kent become officially affiliated?
And
2) How in the world is GP responsible for the things Mr. Kent says?
Or is this just a "they've publically acknowledged each other, so they must be working together" kind of reasoning?
-Mike Schwinger
"Or is this just a “they’ve publically acknowledged each other, so they must be working together” kind of reasoning?"
Nah it's mostly "Anyone who disagrees with JT = In cahoots with the videogame industry" (Especially Dennis, since he makes sooooo much money off this site.*)
* I realize he's not in it for the money. :P
*Jack's life, job, sanity--pick one. No actual trains were harmed in the writing of this post.
Didn't you know. Anybody involved in video games. Anyone who plays games, writes about video games, or blogs on game sites are responsible for all the evils in the world and are all out to get Jack Thompson because he is right and we are all mindless gamers. I mean he has been on 60 minutes a couple times. Wrote a bestselling book. And is the next Paul Revere. And GP is the master mind behind it all. Trying ruin Jack forever cause we are so afraid he will take away our violent video games. Sorry Dennis had to spill the beans.
But seriously I think the Mr. Kent and Dennis were both at the court watching Jack's antics. And he saw them together at some point talking. And since Jack has already said at one point that Gamepolitics is going to feel the heat and is going to regret things said about Jack. Dennis is getting Mr. Kent to help him out. Cause Jack is so important.
The Alabama bar is bringing him up on disciplinary charges and he is also suing them.
Facts are facts. Jack, you may not have been sent to a higher court over this issue, but you certainly got a slapped wrist, and went in there with your tail between your legs. You may not have apologised, but you said you would not do something like this again, which is as good as admitting you were wrong.
The man is truly deluded. He did wrong and they got you for it. Disbarring is only a few footsteps away.
plkrtn, professionally employed and you won't be soon.
"I just do not believe that within the four corners of his complaint he was able to give the court any new legal reasons why this case will not eventually be dismissed under what is known as the abstention doctrine, which means that a federal court will not intervene in an ongoing state investigatory proceding which is being conducted already by the Florida Bar."
It looks like the main reason this was dismissed is only to get Jack in front of the Bar for disbarrment faster. Basically I think this whole gay porn fiasco was a stalling tactic and the judge saw through it all, this dismissal is not JT getting away with anything, but actually him getting his disbarrment faster.
Norm Kent IS outside the GP community. He's part of the legal community, just doing us the favor of keeping us posted.
Of course he is possibly as biased against Jack as we are (although he has more legitimate reasons, personally and professionally), but I think the same is true, these days, of anyone who reads/hears Thompson's drivel in any but the tiniest amounts. If you're looking for an impartial review, I suspect JT has burned his bridges so badly that no such reviewer exists.
However, in his comments here and in his own site, Norm Kent has always maintained a decorum and professionalism worthy of a legal career, and I believe his assessment is as honest and complete a report as we'll find on these proceedings, at least in the near future.
Thanks for the update and commentary - in contrast to Jack's ramblings and ravings, it is nice to hear a legal *professional* like yourself from time to time, as opposed to an amateur like Jacko.
@Jack Thompson, Retard and I'm Not
Don't count your biblical figures before they're strung up and crucified - you're not out of the woods yet. It is plain to see that you're exaggerating once again, turning a mole hill (having a show cause order vacated) into a mountain (some kind of "victory" in your mind I suppose, rather than a bullet dodged) - but this is just one speed bump you've avoided in a whole GAUNTLET of legal action against you. Your delaying tactics won't work forever, and soon you shall reap what you have sewn.
Yes, I realize calling Jack a retard is a puerile act and an insult to all mentally challenged people, but some times its difficult to expel a night's pent-up vitriol without reaching for the low-brow.
I was going to make a reference to reaching for a gutter, but I have always hated when people's minds go into the gutter, as it blocks the view from my periscope.
I meant someone (someones?) who aren't involved in the mess that is a Jack Thompson. Kind of like the law community blogs we saw last week.
Yeah, I thought maybe I missed something. Jack's little conspiracy is hard to keep track of at this point. I think it's just that this is the first time in a long time that I've been surprised at his reasoning ability. I'm lucky though. If he knew about all my connections to the top... *shifty eyes*
-Mike Schwinger
So, as I see it... he got off the gay porn charge because the judge gave him MORE than a fair chance to get off, if he does it again, he's going to throw the book at him, and once again, he acted like a total jackass in court, which gives all the more reason to take away his license to practice when that particular trial comes up.
Jack... if you call that a "victory", you not only need to re-read the Bible, you need to re-read the dictionary and thesaurus.
"you're not out of the woods yet"
No, you're in the Jungle. WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE JACKIE!!
We got fun 'n' GAMES
We got everything you want
Honey we know the names
We are the people that can find
Whatever you may need
If you got the money honey
We got your disease
ok, no more of this thread for me
I would agree. Jack is more akin to Robespierre, Madam Defarge, Torquemada, Senator McCarthy or Pol Pot. So convinced of his own righteousness that no petty morality would dare interfere with his person crusade to save people from their evil ways. It is more of a vengeful crusade for him, over what ever moral virtues he is claiming. Frankly, if you give him enough time he may make a crusade against the 'heathen' religions of Judaism, Islam, Catholicism, Buddhism, and any other religion that rubs him the wrong way.
Just because you said it wasn't wrong doesn't make it not inappropriate. And we would all be ecstatic if you would leave the video games to us! Just go find a corner somewhere and we will be happy to leave the incoherent ramblings to you! :)
Well said sir. It's like asking Hitler if he thinks ordering the murder of millions of people was wrong, having him say no, then telling him not to do it again. While it is an extreme example, it is of the same point.
(Moniker) Griffin Lancer.