Tivo Alert: Jack Thompson on Halo 3

October 11, 2007
Game-hatin' attorney Jack Thompson has mentioned in GP comments that he will appear on the The Morning Show With Mike & Juliet on the Fox Network.

The show airs at 9AM Eastern time and the topic will be the current flap over churches using Halo 3 to attract youthful viewers.

Not hard to figure out which side of the issue Thompson will come down on...

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Well from the sound of it, this seems to be the usual rhetoric. Nothing new or interesting, just the same old garbage that Fox and Jack both like to spout at a moment's notice.

I don't think I really want to view this mess after all.

Ratings.

Yeah, why the hell you have to start up on it again? Sheesh - obsessive???

@KGB, BlackIce Division

You’re getting better, but before you post, does it ever occur to you that insulting people’s religion is just out of order?

You saying Old Yahweh wasn't genocidal, vindictive, and petty? Or just that Pandralisk's pointing this out is "out of order"?

The Old Testament was like that, deal with it, move on.

Daniel: The meta game in Halo 3 gives you points for headshots.

Lol. Sorry about all the posts, but I find it hilarious that the very next segment on the show is celebrating a gorgeous, young actress who has a new movie/show about Wicca and was a star in the Sopranos.

If I were a young man again I'd be far more likely to follow her into the dark recesses of Mature content than the hijinks of Master Chief.

Just watched old Jack do exactly as I thought he might. He brought out how the Washington DC sniper was trained on Halo to be a sniper. WTF??? Have any of these people ever fired a weapon in their lives? First, in Halo 1-3, have anyone ever noticed how bullets always fly straight no matter the distance? Oh yeah, that really works like that in reality! Of course wind, elevation and even the weight of the bullet never comes into play in reality.

They also had a female psychologist, can't remember her name, show brain scans. Supposedly of kids who played video games with one being a nonviolent game and the other violent. She talked about how the violent games showed more "negative" activity. You know what??? How about getting boys to play cowboys / indians or cops / robbers with toy guns? I guarantee the brain activity will be exactly the same.

Has the segment been posted anywhere in its entirety yet?

@JackDon'tKnowJack

I wouldn't be suprised if he's on his way into Cleveland right now.

@Austin Lewis

I'd prefer to do it in a Wargame, but ABC sounds acceptable to me.

And isn't Austin in Texas?

The Morning Show with Mike and Juliet ain't no NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, nor do I think it's intended to be anything of the sort. It's not thoughful or thought-provoking discussion of current events and issues. It's pure trash, produced, quite likely, by the same folks who do the Dr. Phil Show.

@ Geno

Because Jack can't pick up somebody elses kid off the street to do it for him. So he has to use his own son to do his shit for him. Which is even more despicable.

"Games are turning our kids into murderers!! Look at my own son! Parents, do this for your child!!!"

and that's when the rest of the world goes "YOU FIRST, SICKO."

Alright, I have read these articles for a considerable amount of time. I have never posted here before because I never thought to. But lately, the points that have been made by some of you have convinced me to say this.

Does anyone see a small resemblance between Jack Thompson and Mike Nifong?

Lets look at Nifong for a second. He claimed that three college lacrosse boys raped a black girl. Although he didn't really have evidence, he managed to convince the masses with very convincing fake evidence, such as the semen that the DNA of the accused on it, when in reality it was from four different people who weren't the accused. Admittedly, Thompson hasn't proven his evidence similarly, but still, he gives skewed evidence to the public in the very real idea that they won't read up on it. In the end, everything Nifong had worked for in the case fell apart and he was sentenced to a day in jail and was disbarred. Sound like anyone we know?

But if you think about it, if Nifong was a bit more incompetent, and the situation was changed from rape to video games, that would be someone alike Mr. Thompson.

Just my two cents

PS @ at our esteemed attorney, Mr. Jack Thompson

If you feel that you must reply to this, please refute my points without insulting me in anyway. Thank you.

Why do people acknowledge Jack when he makes comments at this site.
He exhibits all of the classic traits of a troll, both online, in his job, and whenever he can get his face on the television. He is the epitome of an anti-social nuisance. First of all he baits, by coming on here and making a snide comment, not making much sense, just literally waggling the bait in front of us. Its abuse and harrassement of the highest order.

The great thing is, come November we should all be revelling in schadenfreude.

@Ben_darkpikachu2

a joystiq article about Jack Thompson sending joystiq the same email he sent GP is not "proof"


also: the MAJORITY of gamers are 18-32. And you know what? the industry (the developers and publishers) make NO money off children. it's the stores like WALMART and GAMESTOP that do. because you can't buy the game directly from the publisher, you have to go through a game store to get a game usually.

puleeeeeeeze get your facts straight before you go posting. pretty please?

@JT

Oh yes, I am indeed calling you a liar, in every possible sense of the term. Try to sue me for libel if you want, but unlike your false and disparaging commentary on a judge and a number of lawyers for which the Florida Bar is attempting to sanction you, my commentary on you can be backed up with fact.

Since you seem to have so much trouble with your profession, let me help you on this one.

It isn't libel if it is true. If you attempt to sue me, I will counter-sue, and I will be laughing all the way to the bank - the only unfortunate part is that since you aren't burdened by employment, it is not your money I would be awarded; it's your wife's.

@Paul Kerton,

I'm a UK citizen too, I think the problem with the American system is that they are trying to pin it all on a Media of Convenience, rather than taking the problem seriously and looking at the entire expanse of Media. I am somewhat relived that the woman who is heading this up is someone who puts as much weight on the Childs' point of view as the Adults' one.

If America were trying to push through a law that affected all media, Video Games, Films etc, I'd probably be inclinded not to interfere, that's be up to the US, I suppose what gets my goat is that this isn't about the children, it's so obviously power-playing at the expense of people whose opinion in the US tends to be ignored (i.e. Teenagers). It actually raises the question as the whether these school shootings are caused, in part, by the fact that the Government is more concerned about what they can take away from that generation that what they can give them.

@GoodRobotUs:

Not to nit-pick or lose sight of your main point, but I can't help but ask: who's keeping this count of gun and knife related killings of under 18’s in the UK this year? Is the number a result of the Times' independent counting or are they relying on the Home Office's British Crime Survey? Because if it is the Crime Survey and we're counting the UK's gun and knife related killings of teenagers between the ages of 13 years and 18 years, then it's likely that Times' number does not include any killings of teenagers between the ages of 13 years and 16 years. In my 'hood, we call that a "short-count."

I've already emailed the M&J show telling them what a douche JT is - hopefully they'll listen if we ALL email them to let them know how much of a liar and snake their guest is/will be.

Can't watch it i'm afraid. Someone give me the gist later.

There's actually a very interesting argument to be made here, both for and against. It's a shame Thompson's involvement all but guarantees we won't see it.

Then again, he has of late been more accurate with his description of the APA's August '05 resolution.

Who knows? He may surprise us.


Andrew Eisen

everyone should email the show at

http://www.mandjshow.com/contact.html

and try to do this properly because coming off as a angry foul mouthed teenager just diminishes our stance against this.

also i suggest attaching this link

http://kotaku.com/gaming/feature/feature-dissecting-jacks-lies-252914.php

it details a previous television appearance on fox news and it points out half a dozen lies and with it you will probably be much more convening.

Come on, its Halo 3, about killing Brutes, Jackals, Grunts etc etc whats wrong with it... is JT actually protecting the CONVENANT?????? After all they are aliens who don't exist... hopefully

lol

I think I lost some IQ right there.

I just sent an email to the show explaining Jack's previous antics (I also linked them to this site) and told them if they want to save the show's credibility they should reconsider inviting Jack.

This is supposed to be the "big interview" he was crapping on about?

I really wish they'd reconsider letting Thompson on these 'discussions' he really is the kiss-of-death to any kind of adult debate.

Why do people think they want an adult debate?
At the end of the day, these kinds of shows are designed to rally a view point, not to have a balanced discussion.

How Jack Thompson handles his religious brethren using a video game to lure in those who are too young to be playing it will be interesting. Who is he going to criticize for this? Seeing as this is evangelical churches that are using this "tool"? Something tells me that he is going to use the terms "brain washing", not towards evangelicalism, but towards Halo 3.

I'd hope for a bit of balance, but everyone knows there is no hope of that.

im definatly going to record this on my dvr

I'm predicting that he will come against it for using violent video games to attract youth, not for the real reason: The churches in question are not following Jesus' example. Jesus went to the people, he didn't try to rope them into a 2 bit revival or other such nonsense.

Of course I could be wrong and Mr. Thompson will seize upon what I have said and won't give me credit for it…

Hopefully, he'll bring his son into it somehow so I can feel sorry for him. I seem to hold nothing but contempt for people in the lime light/ forced to be in the limelight. Being legitimatly sympathetic would be a nice change of pace.

Oh look. a none issue that Jack was over hyping. You'd have to be a pretty sad man if THIS is somehow going to you look credible, Jack.

Nothing will come of this. Life goes on, and Jack's STILL in trouble this October and November and December.

Why is it that Jack Thompson always looks stoned, drunk, or just crazy in all of his pictures? It's like he can't have a picture taken of him that doesn't make him look like a total creep. But, then again, I guess you can't hide something like that when you really are a nut job.

Can someone put it on Youtube? I won't be here to see it. ;-;

Heh, looka likw hw wants his attention again now. Wish he'd make up his mind.

Post Youtube links! ;_; I'll be at work at 9...

@ Dalorei

Trust me, it will be.

Let's watch as Jack decribes Halo 3's 'goal' as 'to kill as many people as quickly and brutally as possible.' and get owned when asked 'um.... they're aliens.'

What does Jack Thompson want?

HALO 3 TO BE RATED AO

Half an hour till Mr Thompson's appearance.I can only hope that this show is prepared to make him look rather stupid, but as its a Fox production, something tells me theyll be agreeing with him all the way.

I'm so close to setting up a Parent Gaming Awareness website... Something needs to be done to get this issue into people's heads.

Just Emailed them:

"I must express my concern with your recent guest line up. Put simply many of the "facts" Jack Thompson has reported are actually lies. (http://kotaku.com/gaming/feature/feature-dissecting-jacks-lies-252914.php)

Further more, for someone who wants to "protect the children" the fact he made gay porn available to children is some what concerning. (http://gamepolitics.com/2007/09/30/law-blogs-react-to-jack-thompsons-gay...)

He has shown a history of abusive and insulting behaviour towards those that don't accept his theory and is facing disbarment from the Florida Bar because of his persistent conduct.

I urge you to take this into account while you interview Mr Thompson. Not only is intolerant of any other religion and sexuality but he also missrepresents the truth.

I hope during the interview you are able to perhaps raise these points or try and offer a balanced view on the subject, after all its our freedom of speech that's at risk here.

I hope you find this information interesting and wish you all the best with the interview."

@Radio Guy

Nice email, let's hope someone with half a brain gets it before the show airs.

One idea here:

On the Subject of Halo 3 and Churchs...

1. Why does Jack think it is perfectly permissable for a Church to indoctrinate dogma into the minds of children? "REAL" Dogma that explicitly threatens children with eternal torture if they ever break faith, teaches children to fear a genocidal, vindictive, and petty "God," and, most disgustingly, teaches all of these incredibly complex religious theories when a child is rarely aware of the negative aspects of the religion, other religious theories, and the fallibility of religious thought itself?

2. ...All of that is perfectly fine in the mind of JT (indoctrinating children with obscene content at ages when they can not grasp the most basic works of science, philosophy, civics, etc)... How is the FICTIONAL depiction of shooting aliens in the face NOT permissable.

Its on.

He wasn't in the summary of the show before it started...

@Pandralisk

You're getting better, but before you post, does it ever occur to you that insulting people's religion is just out of order?

No? Well, in that case, Fuck off and die you stupid prick.

So much for leaving the 'mind-numbing games' to gamers eh?

It looks like the Halo 3 in church talk is coming up. I can imagine Mr. Thompson pacing back and forth fuming that he wasn't brought on for the Cleveland shooting story.

I'm refering to the line "Petty "God"". So yes, you can't call my god petty. Do I try to make you go to church?

Jabrwock,
What I take offense at is that not only does he attack religion, but that he only looks at half of the picture (not unlike Jack Thompson).

I have a friend, an atheist, with whom I have had a good many interesting conversations on the nature of religion. Insults aren't exchanged, just ideas. Pandralisk, on the other hand, prefers to talk about religion while he looks down his nose at everyone who participates; nevermind that many of us participating in religion are smarter than he.

I predict JT will say at least one of (if not all) of the following...

1.) I predicted Columbine
2.) I was on 60 minutes.
3.) These kids train, literally, they rehearse on these cop-killing, murder simulators.
4.) The APA says these games train these kids.
5.) Cho was a gamer. He obsessively played Counter-Strike. The Washington Post said so.
6.) The recent Ohio shooter was a gamer.
7.) Read my book, available now!
8.) I represented families in Paducah and Alabama.

Honestly, this probably won't even be worth our time. It'll just be the same "interview" just in a different setting. Much like any Ben Stiller movie ( I apologize to any Ben Stiller fans out there ).
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