Mainstream Media Site Screams Bloody Murder Over Manhunt 2 Leak

October 17, 2007 -
As reported by GamePolitics and other outlets, an early PS2 build of Manhunt 2 was leaked onto the Internet last month.

For its part, the gaming community seemed to take the news in stride. It was, after all, not a finished product, only one of several planned versions, and not accessible without some extra effort and technical knowledge.

Great Britain's Sky News, however, jumped on the story in a big way today:
Thousands of gamers are using the internet to get their hands on a video game banned because of its graphic scenes of torture and murder...

[Manhunt 2] ...was leaked onto the web - and anyone with a little technical knowledge can download it and play it on a modified games console...
 
No-one of any age is allowed to play the game, and yet our investigation found thousands of people downloading it.

Despite the sensationalism, we did extract one kernel of what is believed to be new information from the Sky News coverage:
[Rockstar] accepts the game was leaked onto the web by an employee of a different company who had access to the preview copy. That person has been sacked.

So... we'd like to know more about who leaked Manhunt 2, as well as how and why. Simple mischief? Bragging rights? Perhaps a true believer who was offended by the ban and wanted the original version to see the light of day?

Comments

Little question: Who actually watches Sky News here? I know there are some Limeys here, but I don't see how anyone watches Sky News.

I leaked it, and I apologize.

Jacks's obviously kidding, guys, nothing to get mad about.

@SillySam

I highly doubt swinging a simulated axe to hit someone is worse that using a simulated gun to shoot someone. Given that the later have been in arcades for decades, I'd say we're safe.

Bad PR? Maybe. Legitimate area of medical concern? Hell no.

On an unrelated note, the EB website states that the price of the PS2 Manhunt 2 has gone down to $29.99. I'd care, except that I've already cancelled my preorder because of the changes made.

If that was Jack, the universe just broke. I mean, he contributed to a thread... in an intentionally funny way.

You gotta love news that is so totally twisting the truth and then filling it with shit...

And of course, all these people not only are downloading the game, but then know exactly how to mod their PS2's in order to make the game run without exploding anything.
Voided Warranties, oh noez.

I wonder if that's going to be John Bruce's excuse if he doesn't show up at the debate: "They changed the location and didn't tell me!"

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@Black Manta

No, Dennis and you will be in Philadelphia. Jack will be in Conneticut.

"It was I and it was a joke.

By the way, I encourage anyone in the gaming world to come to the VideoGame Expo in Connecticut November 3. I’ll be there, and we can actually talk about things without Dennis McCauley censoring our discussions.

See http://www.vgxpo.com/

GP: Yeah, you’re really censored here…

By the way, you keep heading to Connecticut. The rest of us will be in Philadelphia, where vgXpo is actually taking place…"

Shhhhhh Dennis...Now now If Jack says it is in connecticut then its in connecticut....so lets not question that now....See jack i defended you..

Hooooah!

@jack thompson, attorney
"we can actually talk about things without Dennis McCauley censoring our discussions."

The only thing Dennis censors here is personal attacks. Are you admitting to inciting such an attack?

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

"Thousands of gamers"

Really?

I wonder how many of the 'thousands' of people actually downloaded the game, realized they needed technical expertise to make it work, then gave up because they did not have said technical expertise.

Is it more like, hundreds or tens of people? Probably.
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GP - You are a pun machine!
. . Wisdom begins in wonder. - Socrates . .

Well done Sky! You just managed to get the message to anyone who didn't already know, you must be so proud.

Have these people tried modding a console? It's not for the faint of heart. If you don't know what you're doing you're out a console. I suppose with a PS2, not that big a deal, but still I'd rather not piss away money.

Give it up guys. It's not like the game will start world war III. They make it seem like a violent game is a huge deal. But in reality, it's not.

I wonder if R* really caught the right person...

Welcome to the party Sky. Everyone has already left, but you can help clean up.

OMG stuff can be downloaded from the internet? Incredible!

Where the hell has Sky News been for the last decade?

shit happens people.

Sky News really blew this out of proportion :/ .

No-one of any age is allowed to play the game, and yet our investigation found thousands of people downloading it.

Why do I get the strange feeling that their 'investigation' looked at how many people were sharing and didn't look at in which country?

And now, half the Sky news readership is online googling for torrent sites. Congratulations, media morons, you just contributed to the problem. Counterproductive much?

A rant about a vast conspiracy by Rockstar in 10, 9, 8, 7....

"No-one of any age is allowed to play the game,"

So much for our rights as an adult lol.

Um... Banned? Okay, true it was banned over in Europe, but it was only given an AO rating here in the US. Thus, since the AO rating is only a metaphoric ban, its technically not illegal to get it via downloading. And remember, if the ESRB says its not a ban, well, then I guess its not a ban.

@GRU

Seconded. Quite how Sky thinks this is news I don't know..

"Gaming expert and journalist Rob Fahey told Sky News: "What's disturbing about the game is you play a killer.

"There's no victim to sympathise with, there's no particularly complex storyline; you simply go around killing people in extraordinarily violent ways... there's no moral framework around it.""

Is anyone else dumbfounded? I swear, Sky is almost as bad as FOX.

"[Rockstar] accepts the game was leaked onto the web by an employee of a different company who had access to the preview copy. That person has been sacked."

Am I the only one who had a 'Holy Grail' flashback there?

Also I guess that means we should watch out for more copy-cat violence incidents because of this, right?

Yes, that is exactly what we should do..

"....anyone with a little technical knowledge can download it and play it ..."

Gee, are they talking about a leaked copy of Manhunt 2 or GTA: SA's "Hot Coffee"?

"[Rockstar] accepts the game was leaked onto the web by an employee of a different company who had access to the preview copy. That person has been sacked."

See what happens when you own up to something, even if it wasn't directly your fault? Ole Eiber can sit n' spin. Hah!

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[Rockstar] accepts the game was leaked onto the web by an employee of a different company who had access to the preview copy. That person has been sacked.

Yet this will still be touted as a "failure" of the ESRB. I just know it...
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You haven't updated that in a while have you?

Memo to Sky News:
Try to narrow your numbers down, please

@BlackIce, Leftie:
Sky News is Fox News' sister network in the UK.

Previous comment was directed to nightwng2000.

@general531

Your're joking right? The world has just become a little bit foggyer..

Ironically, the lack of rating only prevents the game from being sold. There was no selling of the game going on.

So no-one has any legal standpoint to block this? Kewl..

@BlackIce:

Well, it is still legally a copyright violation. R* does, after all, own the rights to distribution of their title. Still, like a lot of .torrent stuff, it'll probably be hard for them to do much to the end downloaders. Ask the RIAA.

I couldn't even get Hot Coffee to load on a PS2 with a GameShark, and I have quite a bit of technical expertise.

So I'm sure this "Bloody Coffee" incident will be similarly blown out of proportion by the sensationalist media and the so-called watchdog groups, even though hardly anybody will actually see it (except the ones who hear about it on the "news")

Geeze. You know, modern media should learn when sensationalism works, and when they have to fear the Streisand Effect. By broadcasting this to the world, everyone who might not be too deep into video games and piracy would now know through a mainstream source, and it'll be just like Hot Coffee all over again.

@BlackIce, Leftie
No Joke.

We apologize again for the fault in leaking Manhunt 2. Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked, have been sacked.

I'm not sure if its the same, but a friend of mine managed to dl a copy of that uncut version of Manhunt 2 a few weeks ago (don't worry - he's 20).

It's bugged from what I hear

"The firm, which also produced the smash hit ultra-violent Grand Theft Auto series, says it has every right to make such games - even if some find them unpalatable.

It argues that it is parents' responsibility to supervise what games children play, and what they see on the internet."

What radicalism!

This is why arbitarily banning things is a waste of time. People will find plenty of ways to circumvent such bans, and the bans themselves will likely make the object more desireable.

My understanding is that it wasn't granted a rating in the UK not made illegal to posses, am I missing something ?

Not getting a rating makes it a ban because it is illegal to own a game in the U.K. that has not been rated by the BBFC. Or is illegal to sell it. Or something like that.

@Baramos

That's not necessarily true.

For example, Dead Rising, was not banned in Germany. It was just not rated. Any people over 18 had the right to import a copy.

Either those news were British (nothing against those from Great Britain) or the announcer were speaking in hyperbole, something some announcer (not all) tends to do (thinking about Jeff Filion).
 
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