Banned in Australia: Soldier of Fortune Payback

October 18, 2007 -
Australian website The Age is reporting that first-person shooter Soldier of Fortune: Payback has been refused classification Down Under, effectively banning the game.

The smack-down was issued to the Activision release by Australia's Office of Film & Literature Classification (OFLC), which has previously dropped the hammer on a number of games, including Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas and Marc Ecko's Getting Up: Contents Under Pressure.

From The Age:
The ban comes at a time when the Interactive Entertainment Association of Australia is stepping up its campaign for the introduction of an R18+ classification as the country heads towards next month's federal election.

The IEAA says Australia is the only developed democracy in the world without a R18+ classification for games, ensuring titles which exceed the limits of the MA15+ category are refused classification and banned from sale.

UPDATE: The Melbourne Herald-Sun has more, including comment from the OFLC:
“(The decision was based on) the different ways a player could maim and injure (other characters),” the spokeswoman said.

“The violence is seen to exceed the MA classification.”

The Classification Board Report explains that “the limbs may be shot off, resulting in large amounts of blood spray and the depiction of torn flesh and protruding bone from the dismembered limb”.


Comments

I must say, I see why this wouldn't get a MA rating in Australia. They really need an R18 rating.

I'm offended by all the blood and gore in the trailer, but not in any moral sense, just aesthetic. It just seems gratuitous, and not actually realistic. These people have more blood in 'em than the red cross, and apparently it's under a hundred PSI of pressure. To say nothing of the limbs that fly off when hit with an M16 round. Basically, it looks like a mediocre shooter that they're overcompensating for with ludicrous gibs.

But now that it's banned somewhere, it's bound to be a hit everywhere else.

@Chuck

Basically, it's just like the last SoF game, just with better graphics.

dude its like the drug problem... you'l never get rid of it.

Erm...

GTA: SA is still on sale in Australia.

Jusst thought I'd let you know.

That certainly is a large amount of blood coming out of those wounds. They are big wounds though. It certainly is less painful looking than some horror movies though.

“(The decision was based on) the different ways a player could maim and injure (other characters),” the spokeswoman said.

Isn't that what usually happens in those type of games?

- Warren Lewis

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Looking at the trailer I agree that there is no way that this game should be given a 15 rating, but why the hell isn't there an 18 rating in Australia.

I've read elsewhere that there is an 18 rating for movies, so why not apply it to games too?

Well, it is probably too much for an MA rating. That is an unusually
large amount of blood and gore. I think it deserves an R18. But since
we don't have one down here the only option is to not rate it.

I am more interested to see if it will be reconsidered if an R18 rating
is introduced.

-Twixn-

As an Aussie that really wants a R18+ rating and loves these more gorey games, I do have to agree with the descision to deny a M15+ classification.

From the trailer, it does seem to have a lot of gibbing and high levels of blood.

Just a pitty we don't have that R18 rating yet

Not massively different (bit more high res) from the first two SoF titles - were those banned down under too?

odc04r

No they're not.
But having played them, this has FAR more blood, and looks far more realistic.

And just to jump in here before people start hurling abuse at the wrong people, the OFLC (who gave the Refused Classification) have their hands tied in this matter.

It's either MA15+ or this. Thats their only choices on the matter

The way I see it is not having an 18+ rating is pretty much the same as saying only children play video games… not adults. But that’s just me.

Yeah, this is why we need an adult's only rating.
Course I don't like games that are too violent and bloody, but you see how I'm not telling everyone that they should all conform to my personal standards? I'm looking at YOU Jack.

It's ridiculous, the government here did a big investigation into whether Australia needs an R18+ game rating level and it came back with an overwhelming yes, the problem is we have a party in government at the moment that is pushing the religious side of things and it only takes one of the attorney-general's (or head of state can't remember which) from any of the states to veto the recommendation and then we have no r18+ rating, so of course what happens, one of the states attorney-generals being a god fearing man of course veto's it because he doesn't think games are for adults and of course is thinking of the children. So, we are pretty fucked here in Australia for a while yet.

I thought that last post would have the swearing censored, sorry.

Ugh. If the esrb doesn't rate this, and/or they need to cut out some violence, I'm going to be quite a sad panda. SoF is one of the most fun, and unrealistically violent games ever...

Looks like I'm going to buy another copy for the PS3 and put it up on Ebay. ^_^

Soldier of Fortune Pay Back got an M rating here my friend. ^_^

Umm... isnt M a 17+ rating?

Yup.

Wow. Soldier of Fortune, that brings back memories.

@Bloodharp - Yes, an M rating is appropriate for 17+ according to the ESRB.

Good: OFLC upholding the concept of a rating system is all that is needed to regulate the sale of games to people under the appropriate age

Bad: The lack of an 18+ rating that MIGHT allow the sale of said game.

Some of you forget: even if an 18+ rating comes to exist, it might still be refused sale at the whim of the powers that be. Also, "The Big 3" could treat an 18+ rating from the OFLC just like the AO rating from the ESRB.

here its m15+/ma15+...

Meh, I import most of my games for around half the price from hong kong or singapore anyway (With surprisingly good quality, I might add)
So It doesn't effect me.

Though we really do need a new rating system down here.
The two highest ratings we have for games are:
M15+ and MA15+

Kind of stupid that they're loosely equivalent to America's 13+ and 17+ ratings if you look at what games get rated by either of them.

I just hope to God that this game doesn't have to be censored for an M rating here in North America. Otherwise i'd be pissed. I love the SOF franchise.

P.S. - Australia needs a R18+ rating for games really fast. Is there anyway you Aussies can challenge the lack of this rating in Australia. Doesn't Australia have anything like the U.S. Constitution or the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedom.

oh look, they made "saving private Ryan" into a game! i'm guessing that the biggest difference here is that one is allowed in Australia while the other isn't.

Didn't this happen last time?

I'm pretty sure the last few soldiers of fortune had been banned in Aussie land.

So essentially, gamers over 15 in Australia are preemptively and permanently fucked over by a lazy rating system.

Wow. If Crocodile Dundee could see those guys now.

Soldier of Fortune PB got an M rating here in the US with no cuts.

So this is a 'no' to Manhunt 2 then? ;)

Considering getting some friends together to write some letters in regards to the need for an 18+ rating. I can see what will happen though.

Five seconds after we get our rating Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo will declare no 18+ games on their systems.

@Everyone worried about U.S. censoring this game

Look at the freaking picture for the article. The game already has an M rating.

Anyway, just another ban as a result of a crippled system. Let's just hope it gets the go ahead in Eurpoe too.

@Everyone worried about U.S. censoring this game

Look at the freaking picture for the article. The game already has an M rating.

Anyway, just another ban as a result of a crippled system. Let's just hope it gets the go ahead in Eurpoe too.

Bah, stupid "Submit Comment" button. Sorry for the copypasta.

Yeah, it's violent, but in a "hahahaha yeah fuckin right" Sorta way. I think this is quite comedic.

See, this is why government funded and controlled ratings boards are bad.

People think the ESRB is broken, but compared to Australia's OFLC its a dream. I've never heard of the ESRB refusing a rating (they get paid to assign a rating so they have to). If its decided to alter or add to the ESRB rating system, no politician with a stick in his rectum can decide he knows better.

Face the facts, the OFLC is a truly broken and fractured system. Any system that does not contain the ability to rate the material that is submitted to it is not doing its job. We call that incompetence. So, our friends "down under," rise up and demand a R18+ rating for video games.

GregoriusH Says: So this is a ‘no’ to Manhunt 2 then? ;)

Considering getting some friends together to write some letters in regards to the need for an 18+ rating. I can see what will happen though.

Five seconds after we get our rating Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo will declare no 18+ games on their systems.

If that happens then think of all the games that will be banned in Europe. 0_0

Oh, an easier way to get those taboo games is to use "Arrrrr" techniques.

That sucks. I enjoyed SoF2, and the religious oppressors have to screw it up for everyone. I actually empathize with Black Metal artists. :/

I'm willing to bet Australian TV is showing far more graphic violence. But, hey, video games kill people, people don't kill people.

The Classification Board Report explains that “the limbs may be shot off, resulting in large amounts of blood spray and the depiction of torn flesh and protruding bone from the dismembered limb”.

I hope the Board never watches that one scene from "Braveheart"... or that 1920's picnic from Monty Python where everyone dies... ;)
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@Jabrwock

Or even, god forbid, Saving Private Ryan.

The game's probably gonna blow anyway.

"The game’s probably gonna blow anyway."


Perhaps.

But Manhunt 2 is probably going to blow also, as Manhunt 1 was boring as hell. But I still don't agree with Sony and Nintendo kowtowing to hearse chasing lawyers, fear mongering lawyers and fear mongered soccer mom groups by forcing Rockstar to censor Manhunt 2.

Just because you aren't going to buy a game is no reason not to defend it.

"The Classification Board Report explains that “the limbs may be shot off, resulting in large amounts of blood spray and the depiction of torn flesh and protruding bone from the dismembered limb”."

I don't see a problem with being able to do all that, it's just a game after all :) .

@MacBoy

I dunno, looks good. I doubt it will have anything resembling a story though.

@Soul

Exactly. The BBFC is just about the most humane board you'll ever find. The others are just so bloody tight..

At least they admit they need an R18+ rating instead of the 15+ thing they got right now...

Not really surprising,if you look hard at bioshock it has a minmail amount of gore just enough to pass the Aus anal board, I was suprised to lil if any moive blood, hell FEAR is muh more gorey...it seems bioshock was made for the world not for FPS fans or gamers....

Aus needs a 18+ age level its silly to think they they would not.

@Erik

And, just because you won't buy a game doesn't mean no one else will. When I was reading Customers Suck, I had read of at least one instance where a customer wanted a game yanked off of shelves because they didn't like it.

Common sense should have told them that more classifications were required.

@ Black Ice

That about sums up Soldier of Fortune 2. Lots of action, gibbing, and the motion sickness inducing corridors, but the plots was thiner than a weak soup.

Personally I always thought the level of gore in the SoW series was just a little way too over the top. But if it wasn't for that it would just be some generic shooter that looks like every other counter-intelligence shoot-fest on the market.
 
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