Thompson adds ESRB as Defendant in Best Buy Suit
Thompson adds ESRB as Defendant in Best Buy Suit
October 25, 2007
On Monday GamePolitics reported on game-hatin' attorney Jack Thompson's plan to file a lawsuit against Best Buy, allegedly for selling M-rated games to minors.Thompson issued a press release yesterday, stating that he had indeed filed the suit in the Miami-Dade County Circuit Court and providing a case number (07-36080).
As we reported, the claim against Best Buy suit looks as if it will be going nowhere. Thompson has also apparently named the ESRB in the suit. That looks like a non-starter as well. His explanation:
The ESRB has been sued by Thompson because it is well known that it a) is owned and operated by the video game industry, b) does not even play the games it rates to conclusion, c) routinely mislabels games as to age appropriateness, per testimony before the U.S. Congress, and is engaged in representations to American parents that the age label are accurate and are keeping “Mature” games out of the hands of kids...
Although we haven't yet seen the complaint, Thompson also apparently takes a shot at Dr. David Walsh, president of the National Institute on Media and the Family. Relations between Thompson the NIMF head have been frosty ever since Walsh publicly distanced himself from Thompson as reported in a GamePolitics exclusive. Thompson writes:
[The lawsuit] details the relationship between Best Buy and the alleged “video game industry watchdog” organization called the National Institute for Media and the Family headed by David Walsh. Both are located in Minneapolis.
GP: Both located in the same city? OMG, they must be guilty!
Attorney Mark Methenitis has a thought-provoking commentary on Thompson's latest stunt at his Law of the Game blog.
Comments
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He wants steak banned because babies can't chew it.
You didn't play duck hunt, you wouldn't understand, that damn dog had it coming damn it.
Jack was a close second though I'm sure, but while he's an annoyance, to many gamers, thats all they ever really think of him as. But to those who grew up on games, that damn dog was a source of endless anger and frustration.
Exactly. Best of all is this argument he made is ON RECORD in his very own court filings.
This lawsuit takes the place of what would have been a suit to declare Manhunt 2 a nusiance.
By the way, Jack- what are you doing now that the "October 25" release date for Halo 3 is here? :D
Well the Soviets 'were' part of the allies, and got lots of equipment via Lend/Lease.
Just after the war the relationship went down like a bad date film.
Games being burn in the street after a ban could be like the book burnings and concentration camps. No one dies directly from these, but the game makers loss of a living and money spent making the game could really wreck their lives.
As an aside, anyone here listen to Sabaton? I just got two of their CD's this week, both deal a lot with WW2 and to a lesser extent the Cold War. Kind of interesting to see this discussion after getting the CD's and since I know a lot of people here listen to good music (eg. Blind Guardian) would be cool to know if anyone else listens to Sabaton.
"What he doesn’t tell you is that the suit is based on Florida’s Unfair and Deceptive Trade Practices act which in fact does make illegal selling a product in a deceptive fashion–LIKE SELLING MATURE GAMES TO KIDS."
I think you were going to note another point and then went off on a tangent, mixing up 2 unrelated charges. Would you please clarify the above statement?
Also, shall we expect to see this suit also riddled with spelling errors?
1172 S. Dixie Hwy., Suite 111
Coral Gables, Florida 33146
October 26, 2007
Dr. David Walsh
National Institute on Media and the Family
606 24th Avenue South, Suite 606
Minneapolis, Minnesota 55454 Via Fax to 612-672-4113
Dear Dr. Walsh:
This week I sued the ESRB and Best Buy for their alleged violation of Florida’s Unfair and Deceptive Trade Practices Act. As you know, Best Buy entered into a formal agreement with me to settle a prior lawsuit in which it promised to henceforth check anyone who appeared to be 21 and under in order to stop sales to kids under 17 of Mature games. Best Buy also promised the nation that it would do this.
Best Buy is obviously not doing this, at least not here in Florida. I have repeatedly proven that.
As you also know, you publicly attacked me awhile back for allegedly asserting that I was saying that NIMF endorsed my efforts. I never did any such thing. I was endorsing NIMF, because back then I thought you were doing a good job in what you do. I am sure there are some good things you do now. In fact, I know it. That is why I asked 60 Minutes to put you on the air again in March 2005, and they did.
However, your attack upon me was uncalled for and not fact-based. If you really wanted me to stop saying NIMF endorsed me, then you should have contacted me directly. I would have told you that I was not doing that, and I would have been happy, publicly, to make it clear that I was not doing that. Instead, you went to GamePolitics with a letter asserting I had done something I had not done. It reads as if it were written by Attorney Elliot Kaplan.
Which brings us to my request. As you know, you have in the past publicly asserted an alleged “100%” compliance by Best Buy with its alleged policy not to sell Mature games to anyone under 17. Dennis McCauley asked you about that at the time, but Dennis does not always dig where he does not want to dig.
I find again, as I found at the time, public documents that disclose funding of NIMF by Mr. Kaplan’s Foundation. Mr. Kaplan, of course, is legal counsel to Best Buy and serves it as its Secretary and Director.
NIMF, of course, has an obligation to be transparent about where it gets its funding so that the public, which hears your public pronouncements about these things, can judge for itself your reliability and your possible biases. Maybe you have no such biases. But when you are holding forth about how wonderful Best Buy is and then we find you get money from Mr. Kaplan’s Foundation, it at least gives one pause.
So, I want to know where I can get a listing of all of your donors for the past five years, Dr. Walsh. Is that list in the public domain? If not, please forward that list to me at the above address if you would be so kind. Thanks.
Regards, Jack Thompson
Copies: Dennis McCauley, GamePolitics
Hal Halpin, ECA
Elliot Kaplan, Attorney
why is it that everytime you launch an ad hominem attack on someone, it ends up describing yourself more than thet person you are attacking?
I find it interesting that you think the lawsuit is going to work. The simple fact that the esrb was added to the suit kinda means it's going to be dropped already because the ESRB CAN NOT stop the sale of M rated games, they just rate the games.
The ESRB will have nothing happen to them because this suit has NOTHING to do with them.
The judge is going to look at those documents, look back at you, and say "now what does this have to do with the case?" and you really won't have an answer that will suffice.
you just realized that now?
Nope, but I just found the last piece of evidence needed.
There can only be a few answers:
1. Mr. Thompson is afraid of the people in the movie industry, as they would likely be viewed as "more powerful" than the game industry.
2. Mr. Thompson is giving undue weight to the unproven link between interactivity and a heightened impact.
3. Mr. Thompson has an unhealthy fixation on and unequivocal bias toward games, which cannot easily be explained.
4. Mr. Thompson's logic is flawed, for some other unexplained reason, so that he either ignores or actually favors violent movies. (Perhaps he is a Saw fan.)"
I vote ALL of the above!
You'll comment here. I know you will. I want to ask, though, why do you still comment here? How many times have you sworn off this site? I am serious, I really want to know. Please answer me. Why do you make comments here? Why do you make comments that insult the site's creator and his readers? What do you hope to gain by that? Do you really think you can change any of our minds, especially with your inflammatory words?
Good luck, "sweetie".
His promise went off with his morals.
(IF he ever had any in the first place).
"The ESRB has been sued by Thompson because it is well known that it a) is owned and operated by the video game industry, b) does not even play the games it rates to conclusion, c) routinely mislabels games as to age appropriateness (etc and so on)."
Now then, to break down this farce into easy-to-digest rebuttals:
A) *cough* HORSESHIT! *Cough* The ESRB is an independant rating board that charges the publishers to rate their games. No one in the industry hands them a check with the intent of maintaining the ESRB. Again, classic Jack Thompson lie. Either that or he's so blind to any version of the truth but his own that he refuses to acknowledge reality. I vote the former.
B) Alright Jack. Aside from the overwhelming response that it would be IMPOSSIBLE to play all the games that last 20-40 hours and still produce timely results, I demand that you tell me exactly whats wrong with the video clip system. Or better yet, go get 100 of your lawyer buddies (Assuming you even have buddies) and play every game in existence. To it's utter completion. And don't forget the games that randomly generate their own content. ... and while you're at it, how about you play a few online games for about oh, 300 hours each and give me a nice cross-section of how the online experience changes gameplay. Until you can do that, you've got nothing.
C) Why the hell should anyone but the parents be responsible for keeping 'M' rated games out of the hands of kids. Just because you hand YOUR little boy a credit card and tell him to go buy games, doesn't mean that the rest of the american public has the IQ of the average banana. Like it or not, kids get carded for games more often than not. But then again, that's detrimental to your argument isn't it? Poor baby.
Get over yourself you inflated miscreant. You've all but lost and the only one that doesn't see it is you. That's no light at the end of the tunnel Jack... It's a Train.
AgnostoTheo, Capable of thought AND free speech, and you're not.
Good luck, 'sweetie'."
Good point, Zerodash--he also conceded, in response to someone's post stating that the poster had played videogames all his/her life and had never gone on a shooting spree, that one person's anecdotal example was statistically insignificant. Thus, the two "stings," both of which involved him and his son (am I wrong, or were they not even done at the same Best Buy location both times?) are insignificant & do not prove any pattern of unfair trade practices. If Jack is bringing this suit in his own name, those statements come in as evidence against him.
That makes me wonder--on behalf of what Plaintiff is Jack bringing suit? With his stupid little nuisance suits, he relied on a Florida statute saying that he could bring suit in the name of the state--I wonder if Florida's UPA has similar language? Perhaps I'll have to look that up at work today.
Mark Standridge, attorney (and still will be in 2008)
"Why do you make comments here? Why do you make comments that insult the site’s creator and his readers? What do you hope to gain by that?"
My guess is that Thompson is an instigator. He knows that he’ll never present his argument well enough to change any of our minds because, well basically he doesn’t have an argument. All he’s looking for is for us gamers to become angry enough at his actions and words that we’ll do something stupid enough against him to use to back up what he wants everyone out there to believe… that gamers are aggressively violent psychos.
As hard as anyone of us comprehend this but I seriously believe he’s hoping for the day someone actually attacks him or someone in his family (ie: his son, which is probably one of the reasons he publicly announces his “stings” at Best Buy). Just so he can say a crazy gamer attacked him. He’s trying to become a martyr.
I hope that never happens... for his family's sake.
It's easy to see now why he was named number 2 on Screwattacks top ten Douchebags of gaming.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/20064.html
This is about the dumbest thing jack could do. Bad enough to be under investigation, but to add to the mater he now has to go and start activly attacking more companies just to give them excuses to file more complaints.
You know what the definition of crazy is right jack? Doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results.
You keep trying the same thing, lawsuits, over and over, and get the exact same result. Whats the result?
YOU LOSE!!!
Penny Arcade already denied him one of his chances at self martyrdom.
You might get your wish on that "loser pays" bit--I don't know the law in Florida, but I know that other states' Unfair Practices Acts have a reverse-attorneys' fees provision where, if the Court finds that the lawsuit was completely baseless/groundless, the Court can order the Plaintiff to pay the Defendants' reasonable attorneys' fees and costs.
You mean this right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tort_reform
Yeah, thompson pretty much is the walking definition of why we need tort reform.
Then again, he's the walking definition of Shakespears old adage.
"Kill all the Lawyers"
Then again, shakespear was a massive cynic and tended to be a bit over dramatic, so he might have just been mouthing off.
Either way, I still have this to say.
"DISBAR JACK THOMPSON"
Okay, so he probably won't listen, but damn that felt good to get out.
And like in this case, Custer's actions weren't bravery, they were all stupidity.
So according to Jack, you shouldn't be allowed to give a rating for a game unless you play it to the end, but it's just fine to try and get a game banned for being an "ultra-violent" "murder simulator" when you've never played it at all... ever.
His hypocrisy never ceases to amaze me.
I've never played Duck Hunt, so I don't understand, but.. HOW THE HELL DID JACKIE NOT MAKE 1ST FUCKING PLACE!!!!!11one.
Sir, in all fairness, I think ought pog ma thoin.
Jack Thompson, you're just digging a deeper grave.
Which will make it all the funnier to watch you step into it.
I suppose such evidence couldn't be used against him if the time ever came?
"to watch you step in it"
I dunno, I like the idea of a Judge throwing him in it better..
And wit how deep it has to be by now, well, he sure can't got to Hell any louder.
Say hi to Doomguy for us Jack!!!
Give the devil my regards.
He is living proof that money, and not brains, buy you qualifications.
To make a video game comparison, its like playing the Burnout series. You know that spectacular crash is coming, and when it does... in slow-motion... its spectacular.
He's like the Britney Spears of law. You can see that its all gonna end in tears, but you can't make them change before its too late.
Then comes Hal Halpin, Rockstar games, Strauss Zelnick, 2K games, Penny Arcade, Nintendo, Microsoft, Sony... anyone wanna add? I'm sure there's more.
His stated goal was (paraphrased) to have "stores sued so often they'll stop carrying the games altogether". All he aims for is to harass people. This is how he declares himself succesful despite never actually achieving any real victory at all in over ten years.
He's just using them to smear people. Fill a lawsuit, then spam press releases about it. It doesn't matter if it's baseless, if it fails miserably. Remember his failed lawsuit against the Florida Bar. It was reported even in mainstream media, quoting him as saying "If it wasn't going to be succesful, I wouldn't have filled it". But then did they report when it was dismissed? Where was the press release for that?
He doesn't aim higher than annoying people.
Next thing you know he's going to call Saddam Hussein as a witness and ask for a Ouija board to contact him and ask him what evil violent murder simulator he played to make him kill all of those people.
I'm so glad we have lawyers to dictate what we can and can't do and give us moral clarity. As everyone knows, lawyers fix everything!! Like Healthcare!!
His arguments have been countered at least a dozen times and he still uses them. Jack, this website alone have enough material about you to prove that you don't have ANY ideas what you're talking about.
Credit cards are an reliable age verification method. If a minor is with a credit card, I agree that it would raise some questions. But it's also the prof that that minor's parent were irresponsible. No responsible parent would give their kids their credit card (unlike you). And, didn't you said in the gay porn case that kids couldn't access public domains because they can't have access to a credit card, you contradict yourself here.
You're just a weak lawyer, unreasonable, irresponsible and egocentric. And I'm still feeling I'm being too nice with you.
See what you guys don't realize is that developers actually put stuff at the end of games because they know the ESRB won't play them. Like in Halo 3's final level where it becomes a giant alien orgy and then Master Chief and Cortana get it on while the Arbiter films it.
Clearly Halo 3 should be rated AO, but because the ESRB didn't play to conclusion they missed that whole part.
I think the lawsuit should read more like this:
"The The ESRB has been sued by Thompson because Thompson is a desperate man at the end of his pitiful rope and is grasping at straws."
"I can has lawsoot?"
"I has smarts...wut I du wif it?"
"I'm in ur corthous, spredin da liez"
We need lolJack. Now.
Good luck with that.
Then why is this news?
-P
Also Jack, as a "Good Christian" why can you not ever seem to keep your promises? I'm not familiar enough with the bible to quote it without looking the quote up, but I recall some nasty stuff said about what will happen to promise-breakers and those who bear false witness against others, and I'd contend that that one about people harming children applies to you more than any one in the gaming industry. I believe it mentioned something about it being better to have a millstone tied to their neck and thrown into the ocean. Hypocrites are also warned of severe punishment. Heck, Christ cursed a tree to die since the tree was hypocritical, it was showing signs of bearing fruit but had no fruit even though the season was right. How bad will it be for you who's hypocrisies are blatant, hurtful, based in malice, and are constant and ongoing?
Before you go to remove the mote from your brothers eye, take the plank out of your own that you may see clearly, in this case though you'd realize that the mote you see is just the corner of the plank in your own eye and that your brother is fine.
I looked up the Dante's Inferno on wikipedia, you qualify for 6 out of 10 of the Bolgia's of the 8th level, and none of them are pleasant sounding. At the rate you're going though it looks like you're aiming for 10 out of 10, or maybe even a position in the 9th level. Good luck with that if that is what you're trying for.
As an aside, I was fairly far off on some of my Dante stuff in my prior post, only the 9th level is frozen and I was off in some other major ways, but I'm better now. Now if only I could get over being a newt...
In theory, yes. Well, you can IF you're a citizen of a town/city in Florida. It is also advisable to have some legal standpoint.
What's the point in adding the ESRB to the suit? Does he wanna insure his loss? Even if the ESRB does fail in its job of rating games (and it doesn't), no one has any interest or right to sue them over it. No matter what Jack says, bad rating doesn't kill people.
@ Yuki
That "Top 10 Douchebags of Video Games" was hilarious. All of them made sense. How sad that in a list about video games, Michael Jackson still makes the list.
@ BlackIce
Think of it this way. Jack made a list that was all about fictional characters. The other 9 were annoying/stupid/evil video game characters. And Jack still made the list. What a douchebag.
How the heck can you use your Christian faith at all in this whole matter? Where the bleeding hell does it say anything about videogames in the bible?
Pretty soon you're going to sue GP and all of its posters too, aren't you?
@Malevolent
I would love to have JT declared as a public nuisance.
Okay, how long do you have?
How exactly would we go about declaring Jack Thompson a public nuisance?
I hope you got the rest of this decade to spare for us to tell you.
Adding the ESRB is a non-trivial change in the status of the suit, despite the fact that it still has exactly zero chance of going anywhere.
Also, quoted from Law of the Game responses:
"Maybe we should create a new "law", like "Godwin's Law".
The use of "Protect the children" or "For the children" in an argument automatically results in the failure of that argument."
That was by Nightwng2k. And it is awesome. I fully support this idea.
That may be a good question to ask Mark Methenitis and Mark Standridge.Those guys are more familiar with the public nuisance laws that I am.
This is also I think why he's consented to going to the VGXpo when he wouldn't go to PAX. He's trying to grab asm uch attention as he can before the inevitable. He showed his hand in one of his last posts on the last thread. That he mentions the possibility of being attacked there suggests to me that this is secretly what he WANTS to happen. In some part of his mind, he's hoping some angry gamer there will hurt if not outright kill him. That way he can go out claiming his accusations were valid and martyr himself rather than lose his law license in disgrace.
For those of us who are going, let's agree to not grant him that courtesy, ok? As much as he is an angry, hateful, arrogant, spiteful, ignorant, bigoted, self-righteous little man, we're better than that.
way more than thompson is too.
CC: Video Games, CIA, Zanzibar, Zombie Lincoln, ESRB, US Dept of Justice, Satan, Janet Reno, NWA, Howard Stern, 9-11, Columbine, Morlocks, Best Buy, Atlantis, Florida Bar, and Norm Kent
RE: Thompson Conspiracy
The Jig is up! Run!
I'm gladly going to milk this until the cow looks like it's anorexic.
Sadly, we could not declare him a public nuisance, mainly because it'd never happen. It would be dropped in favor of him being raped by the BAR.
Just ride it out, and then see what you can do about it.
more to the point, didn't Thompson claim that children couldn't get into the court files that hosted his gay porn because they didn't have credit cards?
Show up and be his ad-hoc security team. That would be priceless.
I can see it now, tshirts reading:
"BlackIce Leftie - Jack's Guardian Angel"
"Manta - Jack's Guardian Angel"
"Yuki - Jack's Guardian Angel"
You could even wear red berets, or raspberry berets and one could carry a ghetto blaster on the shoulder blaring the Prince song, while following Jack around keeping him safe from danger... Oh, god, that would be hilarious!
The use of “Protect the children” or “For the children” in an argument automatically results in the failure of that argument.”
Some suggestions :D
Lil' Johnny's law, Lieberman's Law, Thompson's Law.
He's aiming for the center of the earth to make a new geothermal source of energy out of his grave. It's tricky now because he has to hit just the right depth, and since people started moving against him faster than he anticipated he has to pick up his pace now since he started out slow.
http://kotaku.com/gaming/breaking/esbr-hijacks-e-for-all-312886.php
Oh bollocks..
@jds
Could we dress up in KGB Uniforms? I don't like letting old jokes die.
And why the specific hate for Best Buy?
I vote for 'Thompson's Law" It rolls off the tongue easier than the rest.
But this suit will not go anywhere. There is no case here. His two "stings" have no legal standing (which makes me wonder why he has not included Target in the lawsuit as he performed a sting there). Being able to purchase two games with out age verification is not enough to sue. Also he is has publicly stated that he was with his son at the time of purchase.
Asdditionally, no one has proven that the ESRB has performed any deceptive actions in rating games. It has been speculated by members of the opposing party, but never proven.
@ Tenshigami
I thought the ESRB was trying to hide from Thompson by changing their name to the ERBR. ;)
Ha! KGB uniforms would be better! But I still vote for the raspberry berets. My wife would be proud!
I'm all for the KGB Uniforms, but I want pics of it afterwards since I can't make it to see for myself.
Typical Jack, delusional to the bitter end.
Stick with real military groups, esp the elite ones. Green Berets, Navy Seals, Rangers, or Delta force would all be good choices. Make for a very interesting honor guard, even if it's all just costumes. Maybe include nerf or airsoft weapons so that you have the threat of annoying or minor stinging force against anyone who steps up against you.
Nah, those are all American.. *gasp* Spetsnaz!! Go as Spetsnaz!
1) Have the case dismissed WITH PREJUDICE. Don't let Jack back out of it when he knows he's lost.
2) Countersue for court costs, which is very plausible down in Florida.
Take Two let this weasel off the hook and he's still a nuisance. Bankrupting him will definitely slow him down, I think.
Oh man, won't that be a sight! :) Don't know where I could make T-Shirts on such short notice tho.
I only offered those for if the KGB/Spetsnaz thing didn't work out. Much better than nothing/most of the other options left.
The shirts with posting name and Guardian Angel would also be cool to see.
No offense, but i'd rather go naked than dressed as a Navy Seal. (I'm not offering to go naked.)
That's ok, I don't much care for Seals either. Just listing off elite groups. Personally I'd go for Rangers as a fall back option, since after watching a Ranger competition I feel safe saying there's not many groups out there more hardcore than the Rangers.
Naw, i'd still go as Spetsnaz. It'll piss the cops off, to be sure.
Let me guess: Dennis has it wrong again. And we follow him around like sheep because he's the VG industry's lackey. Like you friggin' care.
Why do you care enough to troll random websites that even mention your name? Why do you even give a shit about what random people on any place of the globe thinks?
Perhaps it is you that needs to "get a life". All you do all day is pick stupid fights to help satisfy your own inferiority complex. Stop being an attention whore. Seriously, why do you think that all the other VG industry critics generate way more respect than you?
I'll try to expand on that.
Thompson's Law: Anyone who justifies their actions as "for the children" actually cares only for themselves, not the children.
Lee's Corollary: The children are not the bottom line, the bottom line is the bottom line.
Gingrich's Law: The louder someone is about "family values," the fewer family values they actually possess.
O'Reilly's Corollary: The louder someone talks about defending culture, the more of a threat to culture they are.
Anyone else have any? I'd especially like some hitting the "left," considering most of mine were after the low-hanging fruit of the "right," who's corruption and incompetence is at the moment more blatant, not necessarily any greater.
A few Stalin quotes, that's all.
Law from the left mainly involve phrases like "for the glory of the Great Collective" and then followed by the same things that the right wants to do.
B out.
June 6th, 1943: D-day. As American, British, Canadian, Free French and Polish soldiers were touching down across Normandy the elite SS Panzer Corps were not mustered out to repel the invasion. The superiority of there armor to the allies was unquestionable and both sides knew it. However, the local commanders could not move without direct orders from Adolph, and he was convinced that the main body of the invasion would come from Calais even after the allies secured a solid beach head and were bringing heavy equipment to shore. That decision alone may have been the deciding factor in the invasion.
Final analogy for you; In the final days of the war, when Berlin was surrounded by the Russians, all chance for victory was lost, and surrender would have been the best choice, Hitler was planning offensives with forces he did not have, on fronts that had been lost nearly a year earlier. He was so wrapped up in the thought that he could not lose that his staff dared not tell him that the Soviet Army was barely 10 blocks away and gaining ground daily. The war was lost, but he was still fighting it like it was 1942. Several days later he shot himself before he could be captured.
Now, the relevance of all this. Much of Jack's actions have follwed the same deluded train of thought and tactical blunders as mentioned above, such as; fighting battles that do not exist, unwillingness to compromise, steadfast determination that he is right, and outright refusal to admit defeat.
And point of note; Hitler was thought to be quite sane at his height of power as well. Read as much into that as you like.
Actually, Hitler was sleeping late on D-Day. Had he woken up, he could well have thrown the Americans back into the sea on Omaha Beach.
But the underlying point you're trying to make is that Jack is going to end up shooting himself... Right?
Army Rangers all the way. Not even the Texan Rangers can hold a candle to some of the things these guys do.
Yeah, Repeatedly misrates games... Since the ESRB obviously knows every single add-on/mod that has not yet even been made and how it will affect the game at the point in time when they test the game to determine its rating. And it's only had 2 incidents where difficult to implement add-ons/mods actually changed the content of the game, into content the game was not made with that would warrant a different rating. JT slips farther and farther from reality every day. I'd put money on him being too far gone for current psycho-therapies to even help him. Maybe a lobotomy with extensive shock treatment...
As for that, I never 'said' that, interpret it as you like.
-P
Will do..
Mind you, while it's a bad thing to wish for people to die, something are out of our control, ;-)
I really like that final one. It's so obvious to everyone but JT that he's already lost, but the people he'd listen to don't want to tell him, and he's not going to listen to us since we're the allied forces knocking on his door while he's still making plans based on his situation years ago.
You know, this reminds me of a Penny Arcade Comic.. You've seen the one where Gabe wants to hate Tycho to death right?
@Ix
No, we're the Soviet Union :D
Soviet Union was considered Allied during WW2 therefore part of the Allied Forces. Maybe school got it wrong or the Russians never though of it that way, but that's what I learned many years ago, so that's the basis of my statement. If it's wrong I'll gladly change, just need to know that it's wrong.
In documents, The Allied High Command and the Soviet High Command were considered different bodies fighting for the same cause.