Democracy Game Launches

November 7, 2007
Although this is GamePolitics, we rarely discuss games about politics.

One reason, perhaps, is that there aren't very many. We note that Democracy ($19.99 for PC) has been re-released this week under the Tri-Synergy label. The game's P.R. verbiage on the GameSpot website reads in part:
It is up to you as elected leader of a nation to solve everyone's problem, and do it in such a way they'll consider re-electing you next term. Every decision you make affects someone, for better, or for worse. Manage the economy, the environment, and a rather large body of very angry voters...

As president, Democracy places you in control of one of ten nations... You must maintain the budget, levy the taxes, pass new laws, change existing laws, manage important policy decisions...

Voters are divided into groups consisting of a wide variety of people you will have to please. These include Socialists, Capitalists, Parents, State Employees, Environmentalists, Motorists, Smokers, Drinkers, and many more. You can track your popularity amongst these groups with each policy change.

Not every gamer's cup of tea, to be sure, but it sounds like fun for political junkies... like GP.

Comments

Damn doodlies, oy. I want to see more political games.

there is a mac demo, but you need to go to www.redmarblegames.com to get it. (they did the port). I'm the developer BTW. The game isn't like republic:the revolution, I know, because I worked at Elixir previously :D.
There is a new version in the works too, will be in beta before the end of the year.

demoed it at lunch (in the demo you can only be the UK sim). it wasn't bad and i'm curious to see what the other democracies are like. might buy it at some point.

@Picho, dividin teh partes

I am under what obligation to answer that question?

I have two words to say about this game: LOL WUT?

they should take the game online.

instead of just the president, have others be senators and congressmen. just think of the late-night fillibustering raids!

I read in the October issue of GameInformer about the call for video games addressing social and world issues. I am all for this movement, as a gamer and a game developer defending games as being more than just children's toys.

I am actually going to pick this up, because I am a sucker for originality and games featuring micro-management. I believe addiction started back in the days of SimCity and SimAnt. I'm surprised (since it is a re-release) that I never heard of it before.

Sounds very interesting. But will it end up like Republic: The Revolution, sounds very cool, and might actually be very cool... If I can get in the right mood to play it. :)

"...late-night fillibustering(sic) raids!"

@Conejo - For that comment, you win the award of "made-coffee-spew-onto-keyboard" on grounds of hilarity and originality.

Kudos =)

lofl, no political parties, GUILDS! thats the way to take government forwards!

This sounds like an interesting idea. I would like to get it to try it out. Unfortunately no one rents PC games and I don't feel like buying it at the moment.

BAN THIS GAME! kids will be playing it and wanting to become politicians! we cant let this happen :D

Seriously, i'm a bit of a politics fan, and it'd be interesting to play this game, could there possibly be any political bias in the game involved? I.E. play the game left wing style and the country falls apart from the inside?

Sorry to double post, but i just noticed there's a Demo available from their website, not a bad file size, only 9 mb

http://www.positech.co.uk/democracy/

Talk about "murder-simulators," how about a game where you can send thousands to their deaths by declaring war.

I wonder why Jack's not all over this.

(yes, I went there)

I'd make my character in this game a right-wing, born-again Christian, suffering from delusions of a mandate of heaven. Then I'd name him Pandralisk.

@WCC

awesome.

...wow.... i would be an evil dictator who cares if they dont vote me back im a dictator homos

Hey, what's the cheat code to get rioting lawyers? :D

Curses, no Mac or Linux version. Come on guys, get with the program!
-- If your wiimote goes snicker-snack, check your wrist-strap...

Why isn't Jack Thompson against this game? In his world, this would teach children to become more powerful than he is, and he can't have that! He plays Phoenix Wright, so he can't be proven wrong!

@CommiePuddin

He hasn't established the connection.

Now, onto my main point.

Democracy doesn't work. you need approval to pass laws, and to keep you in power.

If you are honestly out to serve a greater good - very rare in politicans - then you simply cannot do it in a Capitalist country as it will weaken the economy.

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I just want to know if you'll be able to be kidnapped by ninjas. That would be awesome, because if you were, they could give you a mini-game of Bad Dudes in the game, and I'd totally pay 20 bucks for a copy of Bad Dudes.

I wonder if there's a Chinese translation of the game.

@ Jabrwock

Actually there is a mac version of the game, but not a demo methinks, if you click buy you get the option of windows or apple. not a bad price either for £13

@Silphion

Oh, I see what you did there.

@Silphion

That's not even funny.

@ BlackIce,

Yes it is, I guess we don't share some areas of the massive thing known as "sence of humor".

It may have something to do with my "name", which implies differences between me and the average person in terms of humor.

@BlackIce: The job of a leader is to determine the 'greater good' by balancing out conflicting concerns such as economy, environmental, social, etc. Laws that weaken environmental protection standards help industry by lowering their cleanup costs; laws that strengthen those standards promote long-term, sustainable development. Who determines what the 'greater good' is? The idea of a democracy is that the decisions made reflect what the majority sees as the greater good. If the majority would rather let the industry suffer for the sake of promoting sustainable industrial practices, than a pro-environment decision would harm the economy but still be perceived as 'the greater good' and would still be accepted by the majority.
No, Democracy as an idea works just fine. I think the problems we see today (at least those I see, I don't know your nationality or views on how effective different democracies are) are because leaders, as you say, are often more concerned about what is best for them or for a small group rather than what is best for the population as a whole.

@Benji

Do you honestly believe mainstream political parties have the people at their hearts?

@Anonymous

No it wasn't. But then, I am a Communist.

@Benji,

A direct democracy, at least in my opinion, would have the people act as the puppeteers of the government, and not the other way around. Or better yet use a computer analogy. The government would be the computer, mighty powerful, but useless without anyone telling it what to do. The citizens are the end users, using the government as their tool and leaving it alone when they no longer need it. And the government, effectively isn't "self-conscious".

This is how a direct democracy works, and it's why no governing body would subject itself to this kind of system. After all, why would anyone try to hold a high position in government if their job is just to be the errand boy for ordinary citizens? Politicians need some sort of an ego, and a direct democracy won't help them retain it.

@BlackIce: No, not at all. At worst I think the parties are completely corrupted by special interest and industry cash, and at best I find that they're too focused on forcing their specific viewpoints on everyone. The two main party platforms I find are two extremes when everyone would be much better off if we could agree on something somewhere in the middle.
I believe that democracy would work incredibly well if the mainstream parties DID have the best interests of the people at heart, but I'm aware that the current White House administration, most of Congress, and most of the candidates for President in '08 care less about the people than they do about either their own well being or the furtherment of their narrow-minded idealogies.

@JustChris: I agree, that's how democracy should work. Representatives should be reflections of the people's wills rather than instruments used to shape those wills. And if that were the case then the government wouldn't be populated by people who just want more money and power - it'd have people who genuinely care about the well-being of the nation.
But, as an old saying goes, if men were angels there would be no need for a government. Apparently the temptation of power, the ability to force your ideas on others, and the general cushiness of the job (paid something around $120K a year, nice benefits, and you only work half the year at most) led to where we are now in the US.

@blackice

How old are you though? Seriously.

@others..


Heres what would be really cool for it though..

Combine this, simcity, and the sims online together.

You play as a character who can progress through political stuggles, your goal is to become mayor of your town, then eventually become govener then president or what not.

Oohohoh.. and put in cilivizations.

that way you can battle it out with other nations and eventually rule the world. (thats your main goal of the game.) other players then will try to nock you out of office and ect, creating a sort of cut throat nature of politics.

Go to war too much with wrong people, and the npc's will begin to revolt. Create a peaceful eden, and the players will have trouble taking you over. ect. ect..

It sounds quite fun, I might have to check it out. =)

@Black

None really..

Just the russians have a saying. IF by 17 you dont belive in communism, you have no heart. But by 30, if you still belive in communism, you have no brain.

@ BlackIce,

Do you really believe that the communist party has the people at their heart?

Even if they do someone who doesn't will take over.

Talk about “murder-simulators,” how about a game where you can send thousands to their deaths by declaring war.

Yes... considering that 'government' has killed far, far more people than any street thug...

Indeed.

Dunno why, but i keep losing comments. Not sure if they get deleted or what... or evne what im saying to wake up the beast from its slumber...

but here is a better version of the quote.

"Any man who is not a communist at the age of twenty is a fool. Any man who is still a communist at the age of thirty is an even bigger fool."
George Bernard Shaw

@Anonymous

The party? No. The ideals? Possibly.

It's closer than anything else I know of.

@Picho, misin teh post

It seems I still have a heart. I am not Russian, so I don't think that applies to me anyway.

Besides, the only people over 30 who care about politics are the politicans themselves.

This game has potential. Must look into it.

@ BlackIce

I think it was Lenin who said, "To fulfil our dreams we had to get into power. To retain that power we had to destroy our dreams."

The problem with communism is that people are greedy by nature. And like most bad ideas, it sounds good when you don't think it through.

@ the honoured Anonymous

I've always wondered why you link to Economist mag. Nothing wrong with it, just random curiosity.

@Internet Hate Machine

I've chosen my camp. I probably won't stay in it, but i'm here for a little while yet.

@Conejo

Dude, you still playing that game? You've been at it for three days now!

"I keep trying to win this scenario, but this one Senator keeps interjecting...Where the hell is Cheney? I warmed up his orange vest."

A videogame about poitics...

I wonder if once you pass a certain milestone, the people revolt from impatience and lack of confidence.
. . Wisdom begins in wonder. - Socrates . .

@blackice

You'll probally come over to my side of the perverable fence.

@Picho, causin teh mischif

Which would be..?

@Blackice

Anarchy i would guess, if you want to classify it into someting. But not like the, lets all get together and destroy the goverment anarchy, more of like the secret hide in the shadows and laugh at everyone else anarchy.

Or rather the cowboy style anarchy... Hunt down bounty heads, but affilitate myself with no goverment, party, religion anything.

My side of the fence is simply where there is no fence. The grass is always green here.

@JDS
"I wonder if once you pass a certain milestone, the people revolt from impatience and lack of confidence."

well apparently i didn't bolster security enough.
i was hit by a terrorist attack and then radical militant groups threatened my life right before the demo ended.

@Picho

Still left wing, i'll remember to give you a call some day.
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