Report: Singapore Bans Mass Effect Over Lesbian Love Scene

Report: Singapore Bans Mass Effect Over Lesbian Love Scene

November 14, 2007
BioWare's Mass Effect has been banned in Singapore, according to GameAxis Online, a site operated on the island nation.

Apparently, the game's widely-publicized love scene between two women - one of whom is a blue-hued alien - didn't go down well with government censors. From the GameAxis Online report:
If you were expecting a raunchy Lust Caution movie-inspired sex scene, then you're going to come away disappointed. Of course, when a video like the one shown in Kotaku makes its round do you really expect our censorship board to let the game pass through its net? Of course they don't!

So here's the sad news coming from official sources. Mass Effect, the wonderfully crafted RPG from Bioware is now officially BANNED! The irony though, is that the ban probably only serve to intensify the game's demand here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Am0vf6GeXI

Comments

@HandofCrom

Erm... As far as I can tell, I doubt that we have any forms of child prostitution here at all. Its very much illegal and the police seem stomp on those kinda fellas with glee... And no, we do not have slavery here in Singapore.. ('cept Wage Slavery.... but that's pretty much everywhere, no?)

But yeah, our board of censors here are pretty anal about stuff like this....
Not really too surprised. Singapore has their eccentricities. A few years back I was working a job that got outsourced to singapore, a couple of us ended up going over there to train them, and they came back with some stories allright. Apparently you have to be real careful over there. Seems they still have public canings for law violations. Not sorry I didn't go, but not because of the laws or for want to see a new country. (My employer at the time was telling people to pay the costs up front and they'd reimburse. Cheap sons of a $$%%^.)
OK, here is the official response from the MDA...

'Mass Effect' was disallowed as it had content which featured lesbian intimacy which is unsuitable for the young. Under the current system where there is no age ratings, games allowed for distribution have to be suitable for a general audience, including children. There is currently no videogame classification system, as such our website has no listing of age ratings for games.
I've said it before, and I"ll say it again.

As bad as we think it is here, in other countries, it's freaking worse.

Pathetic! A semi lewd scene that shows nothing more then normal tv can, and they get pissy about it.

To all those that bitch about american ratings, myself included, be grateful.

Least we don't live there.
I hate Singapore. Didn't they ban "The Darkness" too?
This is the infamous lesbian love scene? I see more on tv than I do with that.
You're shitting me, right?

Singapore bans Mass Effect for THAT!? The scene was weak, those characters were (in my opinion, at least) somewhat ugly, and Singapore bans the game because of THAT?!

...

I don't know what to say about it... (*walks off, while shaking his head in disbelief*)
Wow...just wow. (laughs hysterically at the stupidity of some people)
I suppose Jack Thompson would favor this game getting banned for that weak scene.
@ Video game time

Doubt it, most people like that only outcry against homosexuality because it makes them uncomfortable and threatens their perceptions of sexuality.

Girl/girl action however dosen't present the same problems to a patriarchal morality system that the boy/boy scene does.

To sum up, in their twisted minds;
boy/boy = gross
girl/girl = hawt

Besides! The blue lass is obviously an alien - perhaps it has an x and y chromosome and only looks female by our perceptions? When you get right down to it gender isn't nearly as set in stone as current western thinking would portray.
I'm not surprised. Over there, an anime known as "Mon Cole Knights" was banned simply because one of the characters was homosexual in the original (heck, there really wasn't anything else BESIDES the fact he was gay, no "secret lover or relationship", no actual sex or innuendo, nothing.)
@ Kharnivore

Get it through your thick skull, I was just leaving a little teaser that Jack Thompson would not mind seeing the game banned just for that little scene.

It seems like you are not smart enough to understand that so back off me.
I can see why they don't like it if one of the people on the rating board "don't go down well." LOL
Now you know what a truly fascist state is like. Never pick of Australia again.....Ever. You cannot compare the two countries. Singapore is a superficial, ultra-conservative, repressive dictatorship. That country is no democracy, I don't care what you try to tell me. In Singapore, same sex intercourse is illegal, oral sex is illegal, chewing gum is illegal, Cosmo & Cleo magazines are restricted to adults, porn is entirely illegal, movies like SAW and Borat are banned from being released on DVD, the list goes on and on.

Singapore is the new Nazi Germany.
That's not even close to a lesbian love scene. That's more of a Titanic parody at the end.
It may be banned for sale in the country, but it's not illegal to play it. Only local retailers won't be able to stock it. But if Singaporean gamers want to play it, they could just order from an online store or parallel import it from elsewhere. The government can't do anything to players who already own it.
Cue Thompson claiming America should adopt Singapore's values in 10... 9...
Can anybody confirm this?

Last I checked, not even the regulars over at the official Mass Effect forums even knew about this.
Technically, it is not a lesbian scene. It has been said by Bioware, that the alien in question in asexual. Meaning they have only one gender. They do look female by our perception. So in effect it is only human on alien sex.
Don't they also arrest you for chewing gum in public over in Singapore?

It's a nice place to visit, but I sure as hell don't wanna live there. Even their guided tours felt like subliminal propaganda.
@Yuki

I love countries like this, involved in slavery and child prostitution and all forms of government corruption that would make us sick, but they get on a moral high horse over some video game. Maybe they should focus on the reality of their country.
I am very curious to see how the media and the anti-games folk will handle this. The christians in this country (and their republican puppets) have basically made homosexuality the number one worst thing a person can do.

I personally can't wait for Mass Effect for this very reason- I want to see if a game can tackle a sexual/romantic situation in a serious manner. Given Bioware's track record, I believe this could be a significant evolution in videogames as a storytelling artform.
*reads article*
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...and yet, somehow...life goes on.
That looks sharp graphically but is less than some of the things you can see on tv, like other people said. But whatever. We'll see how well government censor can work the internet and mail system to stop people from importing.
saw that coming a MILE away...

what is it with BioWare and lesbians? First Juhani in KOTOR, now this? Is it because the legal sex age for lesbians in Canada is 12? Were there lesbians in Jade Empire?
Feh, that was one of the stiffest sex scenes I ever saw...

*ba-dum-tish!*
@Twin-Skies

Earlier this morning I spoke with a Microsoft employee who's involved in the entertainment and gaming division in Singapore. It's true: as much as they wanted to bring the game to Singapore, the government banned it. But like I mentioned earlier, it's not illegal to play or own the game in the country. So Singaporean players are still free to obtain their game from other sources.
Did they ban it for the censored version (above) or the actual one that you could download off gamevideos.com or somewhere?
@Jack Thompson, who will no doubt eventually join this thread with all the grace of a stampeding rhinoceros with hemorrhoids-

So what is this part of the game then, a "How to score with alien chicks when dialog options are limited multiple-choice" simulator?
@ SLIPSLOPSLAP:
Godwin in 11.
i love america cause you cant ban games no matter what hillary clinton thinks or what the conservative christan parties want (read: SRN News)

bastards
Big 'meh'. I agree with Godkarmachine O Inary; TVs done worse. Let's just hope no one figures out that it promotes interspecies couples so me and my green girlfriend can continue to live in peace.

Also if no one's going to say it... needs more (.)(.)... even if they are virtual.
*pirates of carribean voice* Welcome to Singapore!
Its interesting that Pandralisk hasn't made an appearance in this article. Perhaps it is because he cannot connect Singapore with his twisted view of Christianity.
Dumbfounding...

I find it disturbing that this mode of thinking persists ANYWHERE in this day and age.

But I guess not everywhere is actually in "this day and age". Go America...
@ Fat Cat Lim

Play-Asia FTW!
HAW-HAW! Your government is homophobic, oy!
As I said at GayGamer.com *face palms*
Homosexuality is illegal in Singapore, along with anything that might make people think about it.
Whoops, ment .net, but still, the face palm still applies.
That's it?

Maybe Singapore has something against Smurfs...

Well in any case at least the anti-gamers now have a haven for their cause.
That scene was...surprisingly underplayed. Not offensive at all.

Oh, and to answer MaskedPixelante's question, yes there was a lesbian option in Jade Empire. If I remember correctly it ended in a rather passionate kiss.
Bioware seems to care the most about telling a good story and having solid interactions between the characters. Thus they seem to feel that gender should not be a limit as far as which characters can interact and how.
Hmm guess they need to do a quick time travel and remove Jade Empire (Baldurs gate and others) which as not has a only a lesbian "scene" but a male gay "scene" (my understanding that is implied since they black out the screen beford they kiss). Still there it is. Then again if Singapore wants to run their country that way that is their business.
Actually, I doubt JT will pay any attention to this at all because: A) It wasn't made by Rockstar, B), it wasn't made by Take-Two, C) It wasn't made by Microsoft, D) it's classified as an RPG.

Yes, he really is THAT petty.
Quite tame, yet totally hot.

Bad, Singapore!
Didn't go down well, eh?

Nicely done.
Nice so unlike Aus you can import it ^^
Oh I forgot to add this is typical morlisim fro the top down to show that they are "protecting" and doing stuff.
Mister Thompson will more likely suggest that there will be consumer edits that move the camera, to reveal hidden content.
@Eveyone who brought up JT

He dosen't care about stuff like this. If you keep mentioning it then when he does the search for his name here (as he always does) he will most likely give the "I don't care you morons!" line and leave it at that or talk about something that has nothing to do with the article. Don't jinx it!

@Article

This makes me automaticaly win because that means my pron is better than your pron. What do they have over there? Amish Girls Gone Wild? Look! It's an ankle! OHH!! A wrist!.

Ok, I ran out of jokes. But seroiusly, it is absurd enough that I can make fun of it easly.
There is no way that JT would go after this for two reasons: One) Mass Effect is not made by Rockstar. And Two) It's not gay porn, and apparently JT likes that kind of stuff (hey, who am I to judge? to each his own, I say).
Hey! Maybe he could put mass effect in one of his court docs!
*reads article*
Because Singapore is such a huge and complex country to maintain, right?

(I'm aware of their other silly laws)
*Sigh* Like it matters. Singapore has so far off the world's radar that I seriously doubt anyone's really gonna care. While this scene will probably offend a select few, it's tame. Nothing is shown. I don't think there'll be problems in the States.
Hey Pandralisk. Look at this, a country where the Christian populace ranks in at only 15% of the total population and yet still a game was banned. Gee, kinda deflates your theory.
I think what they're say is, "Why watch lesbian sex in a game when you could go to our Orchard Tower and get the realy thing."
That's It!!!!!
geez I was expecting something that would give a preacher an anurism geez thats pretty harsh cencorshipfor them to ban thisohwellI hopepeoplein singapore can watchthis online and realize the sheer stupidity of the ban
@ MaskedPixelante

Who cares? Having gay/lez/bi characters can make RPing much more interesting.
I have to say, that's the "Gayest" love scene ever.

I mean seriously, based on the content, the alien may have had a stroke and flopped on her back because of all the hair product the player was using.

It can't be an objectionable sex scene if there is no sex in the scene
@Erik

No one ever said christianity was the exclusive motivation for media bannings- islam and others are just as bad.

Singapore, however, just has a stick up their ass. Its kind of common knowledge that they are heavy-handed on lots of things. I fail to see why anyone would be suprised.
Dang, that was the weakest lesbian love scene I've ever seen.
The worst thing about this is that bioware is one of the few game companies that cares enough to tell a good story. I'm sure there was quite a buildup to the scene (although I do question why they would choose to show such a scene in isolation). Singapore only harms its domestic and international perception with this action.
Okay that did not even look like sex. Oh and another thing Biowares other game Jade Empire let you be gay and nobody banned it.
Comparing Australia to Singapore is like comparing the United States to Nazi Germany in WW2, seriously I know people aren't that stupid......Or am I wrong?
That's nothing compared to Hot Coffee.
"No one ever said christianity was the exclusive motivation for media bannings"


Uh, yeah actually Pandralisk has, repeatedly.
Wait wait wait wait wait!!!

Is it REALLY banned in Singapore???

The only links I can find point back to the GameAxis website, and they haven't even sourced the information.

There's nothing I can find on the MDA (http://www.mda.gov.sg) website about it...
@Erik

But that's because he suffered from rectal-cranial inversion.
@ EZK

Actually, is asexual really the right term? I thought asexual meant that a species reproduces without any sexual contact, and I didn't think that the species in Mass Effect was like that. Even though they only possess a single gender, I thought they still reproduced through some sort of sexual contact within that gender. Oh well, regardless of the correct term, your point pretty much still stands.

But I have to wonder, is that REALLY the scene? I was under the impression that the scene showed some actual nudity. The version at Kotaku won't work for me so I can't compare and see if it's any different.
"[Mass Effect's] single sex scene is brief and undetailed, although there is breast nudity in one version of the scene," read the board's summary. "The sex scene is triggered by the player making a series of choices about becoming more than friends with a colleague. If playing as a male character the scene can take place between him and a human woman or a humanoid female alien. If playing as a female character the scene can take place between her and a male human or a female humanoid alien." (Emphasis added.)

Taken from a GS news article.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6179029.html?tag=result;title;6

I didn't see any breast nudity in that scene. Maybe the nudity occurs in the female/male or male/female scenes.
No, this isn't the romance scene. Thie youtube vid is a separate scene as a result of completing a quest. Search on Youtube for the real deal, since it's been pulled off GameVideos by Microsoft.
Hmm... there are 4 different versions of the "sex scene" in Mass Effect.

Female/male-human
Female/"female"-alien
Male/"female"-alien
Male/female-human

All 4 contain at least one person who looks female, and according to the BBFC, one of them has breast nudity. Before this video, if I had been forced to guess which one, I would have said it would be the "lesbian" scene, given that it has twice the number of breasts to potentially show. But it doesn't appear to be in that video. Is that really the full scene?
Oops, nm, so that isn't the full scene, I see.
Wait a minute. They banned the game because of this! There is no sex in this scene. All you see are two heads, some kissing and a hand in the last scene. This is just completely idiotic. They rather ban a game over two people in a love scene than aliens and humans killing each other. If that is the case, that is really idiotic.
Homophobic censorcrats...gotta hate them.
I am totally surprised by this piece of news.
This really comes from the little island nation where prostitution is legal, but also cover by insurance and receive health care?!
They don't call Singapore a "fine" country for nothing.
I hear more gay action than that on will and grace when i'm listening to it on my dual band TV radio reciever...
lol, Steamy? Love Scene? Its neither. I was prepping for the "awwww yeah" moment where they were all over each other, but it never came.

Banning for this is just silly. I think E (Entertainment TV) should be banned for showing Ellen and Porsche together (sarcasm)
Tastefully done...but then again I didn't expect anything else from bioware.
makes me glad my country (america) does not have government censors, just crazy lawyers and poorly thought out legislation
You neglected to indicate that your posted video is the "tame" cut. There have been racier videos from the game posted on other sites.
Hey, apparently they changed their mind. Found this on Kotaku:

http://kotaku.com/gaming/game-on/singapore-lifts-mass-effect-lesbian-ban...
i think singapore is ritw they should ban this gay game =)
whats the big freaking deal with the ban the video show's nothing more then a pg 13 movie.

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