What I have to say is how many games have been proved to cause violent acts.

Actually there was no video games that was proven to have caused violence.

The system knows that video games are not the cause of violence, so they throw out the case that video games caused violence.

These people can never find anything that proves that games are at fault.

That's like asking how many violent incidents that were judged to be linked in some way to violent violent books
or how many violent incidents that were judged to be linked in some way to violent violent films
or how many violent incidents that were judged to be linked in some way to violent violent television
or how many violent incidents that were judged to be linked in some way to violent violent comics
or how many violent incidents that were judged to be linked in some way to violent violent blogs
or how many violent incidents that were judged to be linked in some way to violent violent webcomics
or how many violent incidents that were judged to be linked in some way to violent violent dances (the watlz! How shocking!)

Gah! I really need a preview button! How many violent incidents that were judged to be linked in some way to a lack of preview button? ;)

No wonder why there is so much corruption in today's society, because people like Keith Vaz are major political figures that have nothing better to do with their time other than to go after extremely little situations that are not at fault.

Linked in some way.... that were judged....

Sure signs of bias, eh?


Heres his answer - 0.

It's a nasty and insidious little question. It seems all proper on the outside but it seeks to try and use opinion to help his cause a little.

"How many (a) violent attacks and (b) murders that were judged to be linked in some way to violent video games occurred in the last 10 years…"

If a person is mugged and their DS or PSP stolen, does that count?

The worst thing is that he does not say who is doing this judging of the link between the violent acts/murders and video games. If you ask a normal, informed person, they will probably tell you the truth, that there is no link between games and real life crime. If you ask a person who knows nothing of video games, they might say there are some links, but only because they are going off what they heard on Fox or read in tabloid newspapers. If you ask a very biased individual like Jack Thompson or a CCFC member, they would tell you that there are countless violent acts linked to games, and might go as far as fabricating links to push an agenda.

The question, (if it were to have any little scrape of merit at all) should have been phrased like this.

"How many (a) violent attacks and (b) murders that were found by the police or law enforcement authorities to be linked in some way to violent video games occurred in the last 10 years…"

Not only would the question be clearer and avoid the problem of bringing biased opinion into the equation, it would also make it very easy to answer.

None.

Will that Manhunt incident be counted (forgot the victems name) where the murderer was suspected of being obsessed with manhunt, but it was later discovered that he did even own it, it was the victim who was obssesed with manhunt. Will that count? The game is linked to this violent crime as being falsly blamed for it.

"Home Department"

Home OFFICE!

@ Scottland89

The Manhunt situation should not even count because the authority threw out the possibility that Manhunt played a role in the killing.

Jack Thompson teamed up with the victim's mother and that situation ended very fast when no one would fall for their nonsense.

It seems to me like these political figures need to do their job rather than slack off from the hard work and concentrate on messing with people's rights over little things like video games.

"Britain’s Vaz Asks Government to Blow Money on Something That Does Not Exist So Nobody Will Notice He Doesn't Really Do Anything."

Just my two cents.

"So if you had to say that maybe, just maybe, some crimes were committed by a person that played video games, and you could give me that number, then I could create an unnecessary public outcry over misrepresented data... that would be fun.

What, you don't have any numbers? Fine, make some up. Nobody who freaks out about this stuff checks to see if the 'facts' are real. We'll just lie to push our agenda.

No, it's not 'wrong'. We're being 'political'. No one expects us to be honest anyway."

Think that's about the way it goes when these people are hatching these stupid ideas? I do.

I would assume that any young person who committed murder in the last 10 years MUST have played games...because EVERY young person has played games in the last 10 years.

This is more worthless Vaz nonsense. Brits, prepare to have your rights raped some more by this guy.

@Shoehorn O'Plenty

That was what I was trying to point out. It's linked to a violent crim however some idiot (like maybe Vaz) may include it, as it's still linked to a violent crime.

In theory, 90% of violent crimes can be linked can be linked one way or another to violent games, but they shouldn't be counted as 100% of them won't relate to the crime as the link will be someone will have onwned atleast one violent game, should it be victim, suspect or relitive\friend. Vaz may still use it to his advantage which scares me a bit as I feel their is less protection for games in the UK.

Plus I thought it was concluded to be a drug related murder in the Pakeerah case.

well you got no evidence or ammo sucka

To be fair, Vaz is a political lightweight that nobody listens to, anyway. It's commonly felt that the only reason he's trying to sensationalise the issue isto further his own political career. The BBC are currently on the side of gamers/consumers - until that changes, there's little to fear from Vaz and his ilk.

I wonmder what his real problem is? He clearly has little or no understaunging of gaming as a medium. I'm almost certain that a little education/explanation would help him see sense, or at least expose his viewpoint as being far removed from rationality.

"How many (a) violent attacks and (b) murders that were judged to be linked in some way to violent video games occurred in the last 10 years…"

why does this guy need to be asking questions? isnt he the type that has answers for everything?

[...] Source: Britain’s Vaz Asks Government for Video Game-related Murder Stats Bookmark it: [...]

"murders that were judged to be linked in some way to violent video games"...

WTF does he mean "judged to be linked"? If he means "judged" like in court, then I'm sure the answer is zero. If he means "judged" by the hysterical public, then the answer is probably "every murder ever committed by a male 25 or younger."

linked in some way

I guess it will be high...because linked in someway can include found in murder victims house, found in house of person who held up store to steal money for drugs. etc

You know, “linked in some way” could incorporate violent muggings in which the item stolen was a game console.

"How many (a) violent attacks and (b) murders that were judged to be linked in some way to violent video games occurred in the last 10 years…"


Zero.

Next question.

Short Answer: Zero, these people need to think, if violent games turn people into killers, why are they still alive.

Answer:

Somewhere around 10, probably less. . . oh wait this is the past year, then probably around 5.

I suppose...

if two people are locked in a room with nothing but a video game controller...

and one kills the other...would that be video-game related?

Saw XVII anyone?

"While violent game play has been linked to increases in aggression, there has never been any research which linked gaming to actual violence."

That's the kicker. Many people think that aggression and violence is the same thing.

Let's wait until we have many 1000's murders from psychos who just wanted to see how their video game moments look in real life. And then we'll talk.

The input device normally used to manipulate video games is called a game controller, which varies across platforms.