Submitted by Mr. Blond - November 20, 2007 at 4:29 am -0500
The guns made me leery at first...he started off well, then...I have yet to initiate a drive-by shooting...then, "this is my baby." Sad thing is, this may very well be the video chosen so guys like Mitt Romney, Duncan Hunter, and Alan Keyes (yes, Alan Keyes is running again in case you haven't heard) can soapbox how they represent the concerned, values-oriented Americans, rather than the idiotic gamers.
Submitted by GoodRobotUs - November 20, 2007 at 4:29 am -0500
I think the guns are there for a reason, and I'm inclined to agree with it, basically, this guy is saying that he has several guns, plays video games and yet has had no incliniation to use the first because of the latter.
What he's basically saying is 'if You want to find a killer, don't look for guns, don't look for video games, most of America has one or both in their houses.'
Why should we be at all concerned if a gamer has guns in his house? I have weaponry in mine that could be used to kill someone, doesn't mean I'm going to. The first reaction was, I'll admit I was a bit concerned and surprised when I saw this video, but I thought about it for a second and realised that was anti-game conditioning.
Submitted by hayabusa75 - November 20, 2007 at 4:37 am -0500
Memo to this kid: hanging automatic weaponry behind you while simultaneously referring to Halo 3 as "my baby" probably isn't the best way to get the candidates to take you seriously.
@GP:
I realize this is important, but PLEASE don't let this become a repeat of the last time gamers and YouTube got together on this. If the video is especially compelling, fine. If not, we really don't need to have 50 of these featured, each one with their own article.
Submitted by GoodRobotUs - November 20, 2007 at 4:45 am -0500
I get the feeling the 'My Babies' comment was taking the rise out of the 'For the Children' attitude towards games. I suppose it depends on how receptive the US politicians are to humour. In the UK, this wouldn't have been a big deal, but then I think we take our politicians far less seriously (though I'll add, it's because we can, US politicians are far more autonomous than UK ones)
Submitted by William Hart - November 20, 2007 at 4:57 am -0500
Quick people we must put down a Gun Free Zone by his house because we all know Gun Free Zones are safest place to be, don't believe vile Republican lies that all Gun Free zones happen to be the most violent areas in Democratic Controlled cities and that normal citzens cannot find arms to protect themselves and it's all lies that criminals find their guns and get them illegally on a black market, such lies.....
Banning guns for everyone to use will of course make all guns go away and don't bring up this terrible lies they will just get them from some underground black market, lies
Submitted by Toxicity - November 20, 2007 at 9:02 am -0500
What a fucker, great job asshole. You're trying to convince politicians that games do not make you violent, yet you have two assault rifles on your wall?
I will not be surprised if Faux News grabs this video and, as Fedule said, uses it to represent all gamers.
Submitted by GoodRobotUs - November 20, 2007 at 9:25 am -0500
Oh dear, and we are the ones who complain about people jumping to conclusions about games and game-players...
There's no evidence to suggest they are his guns, they may be his fathers', who knows, I can understand people thinking like Anti-gamers, and trying to anticipate the fallout from the video, but lets not trick ourselves into thinking any 'special' rules apply about what people are allowed to hang on their walls simply because they are a video gamer, otherwise, rather than anticipating, we are actually starting to believe the hype.
Submitted by Awol - November 20, 2007 at 9:27 am -0500
I'm sorry I can see why there is hate over this video but isn't the Republican party the one for the 2nd Amendment ... Isn't the NRA big in the republican party. I could be wrong but if I'm not the guns won't do a thing to them. More issues worrying about any politician or a certain individual getting a hold of it and using it as a SEE here is proof.
Submitted by Tran4of3 - November 20, 2007 at 11:37 am -0500
I agree with GoodRobotUs's interpretation -
"I think the guns are there for a reason, and I’m inclined to agree with it, basically, this guy is saying that he has several guns, plays video games and yet has had no incliniation to use the first because of the latter." - QFT - I just hope that subtle message doesn't fly over too many people's heads, as evinced here.
Submitted by Kingo - November 20, 2007 at 12:18 pm -0500
What a ******* ***** ***** ** ** * * etc..... for ***** sake, this guy is a ******* moron, why the **** would you choose that background? damn, americans are really mentally retarded.
Submitted by Kingo - November 20, 2007 at 12:25 pm -0500
I get the feeling the ‘My Babies’ comment was taking the rise out of the ‘For the Children’ attitude towards games---
no, i think it's because in one of the past presidential debates some moron asked a question about gun control while holding his AR15(civilian version of M4) and saying it was his baby, after that Joe biden made fun of him, he said something like "Well if that's his baby, then he has serious issues".
Submitted by Kingo - November 20, 2007 at 12:29 pm -0500
Watch. This will be the video chosen to represent the *entire* gamer world. I hope this guy’s happy.---
yeah, thx a lot, what's next? a video of a 500kg acne ridden man with doritos and cheetos on his face and fapping while looking at the camera? c'mon...
Submitted by Kingo - November 20, 2007 at 12:33 pm -0500
I will not be surprised if Faux News grabs this video and, as Fedule said, uses it to represent all gamers.---
Fedule and you are right, in fact if i was working for Fox news or anything like that believe, i would put it on the air. this video would be the best thing to ridicule gamers, to make them feel like shit. i actually think this guy is a 'saboteur', an 'infiltrator' with the intention to damage the game community... nobody would be that stupid.
Submitted by broken scope - November 20, 2007 at 12:49 pm -0500
OH MY GOD HE HAS GUNS HE MUST BE A NUT JOB.
Jesus Christ people calm the fuck down. This is for the republican debate is it not? Few if any republicans will publicly claimed to be disturbed by the guns. Frankly, they are more likely going to be weirded out by the "my baby" comment.
Never mind the fact that those 2 guns behind are probably air soft guns.
Submitted by broken scope - November 20, 2007 at 1:00 pm -0500
The bottom one is a prototype version of a rifle borne of the OICW program. The only way he got those real guns is if his mom or dad worked for the H&K.
Though you could modify one of there civilian guns(Slap8-6) to look like the top gun(G36).
Submitted by Kingo - November 20, 2007 at 1:06 pm -0500
OH MY GOD HE HAS GUNS HE MUST BE A NUT JOB.---
He his. and the problem is that we need alpha males to submit videos not beta males. and there's none so far. i would submit a video of me, but my webcam is not working rigth now.
Submitted by Capgun - November 20, 2007 at 2:47 pm -0500
Ok, I havent had the chance to watch the video yet(will do later), but those are clearly airsoft guns. The XM8 isnt even made anymore, the program got canceled. And even if it did, it's not a civilian rifle. But those democrats wouldnt know it.
Submitted by illspirit - November 20, 2007 at 6:11 pm -0500
x8236986 on those being airsoft.
Even if they were "real," they wouldn't be assault rifles anyway, as it's illegal for a civilian to own an automatic weapon that wasn't made and registered before 1986. But don't let facts get in the way of the pants-shitting hysteria over the scary looking toys..
And on that not, the question itself is rather silly given that the Family Entertainment Protection Act was never signed into law.
Submitted by AgonThalia - November 20, 2007 at 8:04 pm -0500
Overall, I didn't mind the video...
But there are a few things that disagree with.
1: He mentions that Democrats have tried to introduce legislation to restrict our rights to purchase violent video games. While this is true, what he fails to mention is that the stupidity is absolutely bi-partisan. For every Democratic representative that has tried to "protect our frail and feeble minds" and "save us from these young murder machines" there's a Republican representative who's tried to do the same. Generally, Democrats do it because they want to promote anti-violence, and Republicans do it to reflect their restrictive and linear views of what family values are.
2: The guns in the background are effective to a Republican audience, but as we saw in the reactions of the media and us gamers to the Prez playing games with wounded vets, a simple thing such as his decoration could be used to portray us all as gun-nuts. Regardless of his intentions, people will read into that choice according to their own preconceptions.
3: I understand the "this is my baby" comment... but again, it's one of those things that will mean different things to different political filters. On one hand, it's a sign of our obvious addiction to violence and destruction, on the other hand, its a real life example of how a simple game can become a constitutional lightning-rod.
Submitted by illspirit - November 20, 2007 at 11:18 pm -0500
@AgonThalia
1: Not entirely true. For every one Republican who has written, sponsored, or signed a piece of anti-game legislation there are about ten Democrats. This could change if enough games with sexual content go mainstream to make it a real "family values" issue for Republicans. But with Hot Coffee out of the way, it's almost exclusively about the violence. The PC, non-violence thing is, of course, very partisan.
2: This hurts us how? If the Republicans think we're all gun-nuts, they will pander to us. Hillary and friends hate us either way. Win/win.
3: The "my baby" thing is an obvious spoof of the token gun-nut question at the Democratic YouTube debate. Anyone who fails to recognize that and proceeds to use it against us is probably beyond hope anyway. ;)
Submitted by Tim - March 25, 2008 at 12:59 am -0500
Recently, I read a post suggesting that all paintballers are perverts becuase of a Fox News piece that showed paintballers and some questionable behaviour. Here you have the same issue. Stereotyping is stereotyping. You can't paint people or actions with a wide brush. What one person or replican "gun-nut" might do is not a ticket to paint all republicans as "gun-nuts".
Submitted by download movies - June 5, 2008 at 1:46 am -0500
You people that were distracted by these gun replicas are morons. You didn't even listen to what he had to say. What would you think had he only submitted an audio clip instead? His point is that we really don't know politician's views on videogames and would like to know whether or not his hobby is safe from censorship. (nice g36 and xm8 I've never seen such wall decorations before)
Posted 11/21/09 at 07:50pm mentor07825: Is this the game called S.T.A.L.K.E.R?
Posted 11/21/09 at 07:46pm DarkSaber: I feel for ya Mentor, I just got my face eaten by radioactvie Chtulhu mutants AGAIN! In an a rea that was completely clear last time I visited...
Posted 11/21/09 at 06:52pm mentor07825: my battleship blew up...again!!! Now I have to mine to get my money and ship back :'(
Posted 11/21/09 at 06:32pm Alyric: Not related to games, but... http://tinyurl.com/y87og7d It's a pity the media is ignoring it.
Posted 11/21/09 at 06:11pm PHX Corp: Call of duty Modern warfare 2 people caused an XBL outage
Posted 11/21/09 at 05:57pm mentor07825: is back playing Eve Online....and got his battleship blown up :'(
Posted 11/21/09 at 04:56pm DarkSaber: "checkpoints are for pussies"
Posted 11/21/09 at 04:55pm DarkSaber: And then to top it off, I found a way roundthe wibbly-wobblies of death, got the shiny things and got my face eaten by a weird tentacle-faced radioactive cthulhu bloodsucker mutant of death. And hadn't saved. This is the sort of game that says "checkpoint
Posted 11/21/09 at 04:52pm ZippyDSMlee: DarkSaber:boobs are like that..........
Posted 11/21/09 at 04:51pm DarkSaber: Journal notes from S.T.A.L.K.E.R. #1: No matter how shiny the things on the other side appear, the wibbly-wobbly things in front of them are invariably fatal. Interesting, but fatal.
Posted 11/21/09 at 04:29pm JDKJ: And I'm wondering what the "I graduated high school 4 years ago" part has to do with anything. Did your high school diploma have an expiration date stamped on it which has now passed? Like a gallon of milk that's been in the fridge too long?
Posted 11/21/09 at 04:21pm JDKJ: . . . and the health services industry is not only one of the few industries currently hiring, but they're also paying real good money. Not bad at all for a low-cost, two-year investment. But, again, the choice is yours.
Posted 11/21/09 at 04:17pm JDKJ: And if there's a local community college nearby you, I'll bet that tuition's dirt cheap. Even if you have to take out loans, it can't be all that bad. And many community colleges offer two-year degrees in health services-related fields . . .
Posted 11/21/09 at 04:09pm JDKJ: @taco: That's your choice. And not to say it's a bad choice, but there is the downside of you not being very employable without a college education. Not to say that a college degree guarantees you'll get a job. But it can help and usually never hurts.
Posted 11/21/09 at 03:37pm magic_taco: I graduated HS 4 years ago,And i'd rather not borrow money and end up paying it back in the future.
Posted 11/21/09 at 03:17pm JDKJ: @taco: The job thing I can understand. It's tough times out there. But why can't you still do the college thing? Grants and loans and work/study. That's how most folks do it.
Posted 11/21/09 at 03:11pm magic_taco: Im just bothered i cant find a job or be able to enroll into a college no thanks to a tanking economy.
Posted 11/21/09 at 02:42pm ZippyDSMlee: JD:damn beat me to it :P
Posted 11/21/09 at 02:40pm JDKJ: Both. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
Posted 11/21/09 at 02:38pm beemoh: @Zip: "days are more specail" Special as in 'Prize', or special as in 'olympics'?
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What he's basically saying is 'if You want to find a killer, don't look for guns, don't look for video games, most of America has one or both in their houses.'
Why should we be at all concerned if a gamer has guns in his house? I have weaponry in mine that could be used to kill someone, doesn't mean I'm going to. The first reaction was, I'll admit I was a bit concerned and surprised when I saw this video, but I thought about it for a second and realised that was anti-game conditioning.
@GP:
I realize this is important, but PLEASE don't let this become a repeat of the last time gamers and YouTube got together on this. If the video is especially compelling, fine. If not, we really don't need to have 50 of these featured, each one with their own article.
Banning guns for everyone to use will of course make all guns go away and don't bring up this terrible lies they will just get them from some underground black market, lies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGqiULYbt5Y
I will not be surprised if Faux News grabs this video and, as Fedule said, uses it to represent all gamers.
There's no evidence to suggest they are his guns, they may be his fathers', who knows, I can understand people thinking like Anti-gamers, and trying to anticipate the fallout from the video, but lets not trick ourselves into thinking any 'special' rules apply about what people are allowed to hang on their walls simply because they are a video gamer, otherwise, rather than anticipating, we are actually starting to believe the hype.
Eventually, GP started doing a daily feature of videos uploaded. It worked out quite well. I would not be surprised if he did this again.
No civilian owns an XM-8. (The futuristic rifle pictured below the G36 up top). More than likely, he was trying to look badass.
"I think the guns are there for a reason, and I’m inclined to agree with it, basically, this guy is saying that he has several guns, plays video games and yet has had no incliniation to use the first because of the latter." - QFT - I just hope that subtle message doesn't fly over too many people's heads, as evinced here.
He probably just wants to point out that he plays video games and owns assault rifles and yet hasn't shot up any school campuses.
no, i think it's because in one of the past presidential debates some moron asked a question about gun control while holding his AR15(civilian version of M4) and saying it was his baby, after that Joe biden made fun of him, he said something like "Well if that's his baby, then he has serious issues".
yeah, thx a lot, what's next? a video of a 500kg acne ridden man with doritos and cheetos on his face and fapping while looking at the camera? c'mon...
Fedule and you are right, in fact if i was working for Fox news or anything like that believe, i would put it on the air. this video would be the best thing to ridicule gamers, to make them feel like shit. i actually think this guy is a 'saboteur', an 'infiltrator' with the intention to damage the game community... nobody would be that stupid.
Jesus Christ people calm the fuck down. This is for the republican debate is it not? Few if any republicans will publicly claimed to be disturbed by the guns. Frankly, they are more likely going to be weirded out by the "my baby" comment.
Never mind the fact that those 2 guns behind are probably air soft guns.
Here his youtube user page.
http://www.youtube.com/user/huertanix
Though you could modify one of there civilian guns(Slap8-6) to look like the top gun(G36).
He his. and the problem is that we need alpha males to submit videos not beta males. and there's none so far. i would submit a video of me, but my webcam is not working rigth now.
Even if they were "real," they wouldn't be assault rifles anyway, as it's illegal for a civilian to own an automatic weapon that wasn't made and registered before 1986. But don't let facts get in the way of the pants-shitting hysteria over the scary looking toys..
And on that not, the question itself is rather silly given that the Family Entertainment Protection Act was never signed into law.
And the latter doesn't exactly include a how-to manual on operating the former.
But there are a few things that disagree with.
1: He mentions that Democrats have tried to introduce legislation to restrict our rights to purchase violent video games. While this is true, what he fails to mention is that the stupidity is absolutely bi-partisan. For every Democratic representative that has tried to "protect our frail and feeble minds" and "save us from these young murder machines" there's a Republican representative who's tried to do the same. Generally, Democrats do it because they want to promote anti-violence, and Republicans do it to reflect their restrictive and linear views of what family values are.
2: The guns in the background are effective to a Republican audience, but as we saw in the reactions of the media and us gamers to the Prez playing games with wounded vets, a simple thing such as his decoration could be used to portray us all as gun-nuts. Regardless of his intentions, people will read into that choice according to their own preconceptions.
3: I understand the "this is my baby" comment... but again, it's one of those things that will mean different things to different political filters. On one hand, it's a sign of our obvious addiction to violence and destruction, on the other hand, its a real life example of how a simple game can become a constitutional lightning-rod.
1: Not entirely true. For every one Republican who has written, sponsored, or signed a piece of anti-game legislation there are about ten Democrats. This could change if enough games with sexual content go mainstream to make it a real "family values" issue for Republicans. But with Hot Coffee out of the way, it's almost exclusively about the violence. The PC, non-violence thing is, of course, very partisan.
2: This hurts us how? If the Republicans think we're all gun-nuts, they will pander to us. Hillary and friends hate us either way. Win/win.
3: The "my baby" thing is an obvious spoof of the token gun-nut question at the Democratic YouTube debate. Anyone who fails to recognize that and proceeds to use it against us is probably beyond hope anyway. ;)
You people that were distracted by these gun replicas are morons. You didn't even listen to what he had to say. What would you think had he only submitted an audio clip instead?
His point is that we really don't know politician's views on videogames and would like to know whether or not his hobby is safe from censorship.
(nice g36 and xm8 I've never seen such wall decorations before)
You stated that video games don't cause violence yet you have 2 guns in the background, you have just given them a perfect argument. download movies