Federal Judge Dismisses Jack Thompson's Suit Against Florida Bar

Federal Judge Dismisses Jack Thompson's Suit Against Florida Bar

November 21, 2007
Late yesterday, U.S. District Court Judge Adalberto Jordan dismissed (24-page pdf) John Thompson vs. Florida Bar, et al, Miami attorney Jack Thompson's civil rights claim against the agency which regulates Florida's legal practitioners.

The ruling clears the way for Thompson's Bar disciplinary trial to begin on November 26th before a referee appointed by the Florida Supreme Court.

In a ruling issued earlier yesterday, Judge Jordan also denied Thompson's motion (3-page pdf) to add me as a defendant in the case. While Judge Jordan did not mention the Entertainment Consumers Association (ECA), which Thompson also sought to add as a defendant, it's a moot point since the entire case has now gone away.

In response, Thompson has filed a notice that he intends to appeal Judge Jordan's decision. In addition, he has filed an emergency request with the 11th U.S. Circuit Court to stay next week's Bar trial.

UPDATE: Judge Jordan has denied Thompson's request for a stay. The 11th Circuit has denied several other requests... Looks like this one is over.

Comments

@ GryphonOsiris

We could all chip in a nickel and buy him new stationary...


"From the Desk of Jack Thompson, Disbarred Attorney"
I really think that it is funny that he is sueing the Florida Bar, considering that that is what he passed so that he could make us laugh, with all these lawsuits against video game. Which all failed to work to his advantage
First post!
@Grey, whilst true to a degree, it needs to be understood that most of the complaints that are going against Thompson are not from the gaming Industry. Several judges, a number of law firms, but no gaming companies.

In many ways, this is the worst possible way for him to be kicked out, it's not because of anything intangible, he himself wrote hate letters to all and sundry, this cannot be made to look like some kind of constructive dismissal because there is quite simply far too much evidence to the contrary.

Jack won't go away, but I feel it will be much harder for him to play his martyr card than he thinks it will be.
In regards to being denied the "right" to hearings (which the judge also rules aren't JT's "right" anyway):

Mr. Thompson, in short, has been given the opportunity to confront and question his accusers. [but has chosen not to do so]
I wonder, if I e-mailed the people listed in Thompson's emergency request, and tell them that I have complained about him, would I get in any trouble for contacting them directly?
@Thomas

Actually, I think apart from some extreme groups, Thompson has burned a vast number of his prospect-bridges, because he couldn't resist the urge to have the last venom-soaked word. I don't doubt we will see him around, but I don't think he'll be quite as popular as people believe.
@ Phantom

“Guys, be realistic. Jack’s not going to go away. He’s either going to latch onto some watchdog like Common Sense Media, or he’ll be a frothing civic protestor “unchained” by the rules of decorum he labored under while employed as a lawyer. ”

Ah, but his two biggest lawsuits (Strickland v. Sony (ongoing), James v. Meow Media (dismissed)) , were both filed on behalf of others. If he's disbarred, the best he can do is local Florida "nuisance" lawsuits.
Keep in mind people, while Jack will likely try to pass himself off as being martyred by the media, or whatever; not being a lawyer severely limits his ability to file frivolous lawsuits. Similarly I doubt a disbarred lawyer makes for as good a talking head, so the main stream media will likely go looking for a new liar that hasn't heavily discredited themself. Particularly if he starts going on about how the big conspiracy took his law license because he's christian, instead of going on about how video games threaten your children.

So while he won't go away, he'll fade into the fringe and be more easily ignored.
I hate to sneeze on your banana, but we're up the Suwannee whichever way the wind blows with regards Jack Thompson. Any result in any situation will be spun in his favour.

"The gaming industry tried to silence me and destroy my reputation, but I survived! That means I'm right and they're the bad guys."

"The gaming industry tried to silence me and destroy my reputation, and they succeeded! That means they're scared of me because they know I'm right, and they're the bad guys."

Vocal critics always win. They're either victorious or a victim.
@GoodRobotUs
"@Grey, whilst true to a degree, it needs to be understood that most of the complaints that are going against Thompson are not from the gaming Industry. Several judges, a number of law firms, but no gaming companies."

I agree with you that it is his professional conduct which is costing him his license and not the game industry; however, that isn't how he will spin it in the press. And if the media hasn't checked into the truth behind his claims yet, I see no reason for them to start now. He will claim to be a victim and an uninformed public will see him as such.

He's going to pull a Ben Kenobi on us.
OH MY GOD I HAD ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA THIS WOULD EVER BE A POSSIBLE OUTCOME!!!
One good thing about him getting disbarred is that he can no longer be introduced as "Attorney Jack Thompson".

"Former Attorney Jack Thompson" has such a nice ring to it.
Dennis, glad to hear this got thrown out. I am sure it's not over with an appeal coming, but I doubt that'll stand for long either.
1) Jack got completely owned in the dismissal.
2) Jack got owned repeatedly in the denial of his 100 (or so) motions.
3) The suit against GP denied with prejudice. Nice!
4) I suspect that Jack's appeal attempt on the basis of "everything he said was wrong" isn't going to go far. (Lawyers with real law degrees cite examples.)

I suspect that the "missing" psych evaluation that Jack does cite is that Jack attached a summary and not an entire evaluation. No way to verify on any of this.

I also liked how Judge Jordan still managed to destroy Jack's arguments even by "assuming everything Jack said was correct," which we all know it isn't especially when Jack is saying "I did nothing wrong." Hilarious.

That flushing sound Jack hears is his lawyering license going right down the toilet.
Let's face it, there's enough competent people attacking videogames in the shape of Yee and Clinton, what Thompson does, more than anything else, is tie up people's energy and focus on him achieving nothing whilst the big guns sneak through the back door. That's why I'm glad he got banned, I don't think I've ever considered him a serious threat, but he was a serious distraction from a serious threat.
Numfar! Do the Dance Of Joy!
To be honest, my impression of the US governmental system suggests to me that this is the only way the abstention laws could work. There has always been a certain resistance to the idea of the Federal Government interfering with State-based interests, be that Politics or Law, I could be wrong, but it seems to me that semi-autonomy is very important to the States of the US and they would resist Federal interference at this level as a matter of course anyway.
Awww, Jack Looks like he's crying in the picture. XD
@JDKJ

I know, scary isn't it, I think the natural state of humanity is one of deep suspicion, but what with martian bunnies etc, it's all been going a bit crazy lately.....
You know, I hope JT continues his righteous crusade.

Think of all the entertainment we'd miss otherwise, I mean those court documents make a great read.... =)
I'll miss him. He makes news that can be entertaining to read about. He also hasn't been a big enough problem losing lawsuits left and right while establishing legal precedence for future cases concerning video games. I think the proper response to his disbarment wouldn't be a massive 'Hooah!' but a casual nod and a 'Bye, Jack'. We should be civilised enough to not act like a drunk pack of soccer fans.

An entity losing badly against a cause is always going to empower it more than any PR campaign or study ever will. A boxer can boast as much as he want about how tough he is, but his strength can only be proven after several fights. The VG industry needed Thompson for some rounds, to prove that the prejudice isn't true, that ganes don't teach murder and that they don't have a major detrimental effect on the public.

I do wish that he'd been more constructive, because between his attitude, conjecture and extremely loose arguments & proof, he's not quite enough to set a baseline on. It'd been better if he was a brilliant lawyer using every possible good, solid argument backed up with the best proof available and lost the cases, because then that'd be it for today. Until virtual reality and full body joysticks come about.
@the update
Jack Thompson just can't get a break can he?!

And if he does, he doesn't deserve one.
Oh yeah -- Anyone notice in that 3-page document that there was one time where Judge Jordan misspelled "Thompson"? The S was omitted, so it kinda-sorta looked like "Tampon"...o.O

Ah well. I guess having to type "Thompson" over and over would get to you.
@jon
Yes, he'll sue himself for malpractice.

I will miss him though, as Voltaire once said, "I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it. "

Maintain the rage John Bruce. Do not go quietly into the night ... ah who am I kidding?! Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!!
Delta -- "First, on Jordan’s document, correct me if I am wrong, but basically the court is telling Thompson that he needs to wait like a patient little boy for the day of the hearing before he can flail and file motions and appeals. Thompson apparently instead of just waiting for the hearing to find out what he is being charged with, of which they will give him his chance to argue in his defense, is trying to have the whole thing thrown out, and is throwing all kinds of fastballs to do so. That’s what I got from the document, but given all the references Jordan makes it was tough to follow in places."

Delta, that's exactly what Jordan is saying. A federal court cannot intervene in a state court proceeding unless there is a compelling reason. Jack's compelling reason of "the Bar is picking on me!" is not sufficient. They're picking on him because people filed complaints. Jack is more than welcome to file for relief AFTER his bar trial and a federal court can examine the case to see if Jack's rights were violated.

As far as Jack not knowing what he's charged with goes, that's simply hogwash. Dennis had a link to a document some months ago outlining about 40 different accusations from JUST ONE CASE that Jack was being charged with. It's a public document and it was given to Jack. If he didn't read it (possible) or didn't comprehend it (more than likely), that's his own doing. The fact that he brought up things that he was charged with in his own filings while claiming he doesn't know what he's charged with seems a bit off, don't you think? Judge Jordan thought so, too.
Good riddance. Maybe now he'll decide to start a crusade against something else and we can stop hearing about him. Probably not, but I can dream...most likely he'll get disbarred and continue screaming at the top of his lungs that games are evil and everyone is out to get him and there's a gremlin on the wing.
@Gray17
"That’s why I’m not of the opinion that minors should be prevented from getting M rated games, but rather that parents should prevent their children from getting games that they do no wish them to get. Fortunately, enforcing the age-ratings, particularly on mature content goes a long ways towards helping parents with this as their kids get stuck running anything that might be questionable past parental review."

I agree. I think that was the point I was trying to make with the comment about my nephews. (Sorry if I was not clear.) Halo 2 is a mature rated game, and I was initially opposed to letting them play it in my house, until I spoke to their parents who let me know that they were all right with it, because they had talked to their children about it and believed they were mature enough to handle it.

I did appreciate your comments. Thank you.

@bakaohki

Thanks! Sometimes the words just gel together.

@Attack Gypsy

I'm pretty certain he can't/won't answer that question if he has.
@Attack Gypsy -- Dennis' complaint was dismissed by the Florida Bar some time ago, so why would he be involved? The charges against Jack are very specific and stem out of cases Dennis wasn't even close to being involved in (other than posting news about them here).
Guess what, Jack. Every post you make on gamepolitics.com can be used as evidence against you if you ever try to take Dennis to trial. I would guess that a harassment countersuit is far more likely to be successful than anything lawsuit you throw at Dennis.
Thompson always fines a way to make a complete dumbass of himself :p .
@Gray17

If that's the case, then I'm guessing Jack just thought it was a convenient way to hassle Dennis more. How professional. Er, not.
@Gray17:

They probably wouldn't keep the person who tipped them off informed as to what they're doing about it though, would they? Meaning that .Jack//Thompson has no idea what, if any, action was taken.
so the stupid fool is back what a surprise.
Jack is technically correct. Being dismissed without prejudice means he can still refile it if he loses the state case, as I'm sure he will and will try to do. However, as is clear in the decision, it was dismissed because of ignorance of, or disregard for, a large number of basic prodecural rules on Jack's part.
Oh damnit, I messed up a blockquote or two... BAH! If only I could edit that thing!

Hey Dennis, I'm volunteering my services as a PHP coder to make you a custom "preview" button. Takes the information from the text box, opens up a pop-up, and displays what the post would look like. Just lemme know.
@CK20XX: Preach on, my brother! Preach on!

One thing I absolutely hate is seeing people skew the Bible's teachings to forward their own agendas. Unfortunately, this is what a lot of 'Christians' do, and it gives the ones who genuinely do believe, even if only in their own way, the ones who don't want to preach and try to convert and outwardly judge others, a bad name.

*Queue Pandralisk in 5 . . .4 . . . 3 . . *

Christians are not all jerks who use the Bible for their own gains. The few who do act like this give the rest of us a bad name. Thompson is one of these people, and I'm glad that CK20XX took the time out that was necessary to expose Thompson, once again, for the snake he truly is.
I think I fixed it.
Um... I don't see anything broken, Wise Guy. Other than your 5x post...
Sorry, for those who couldn't see it, Mnementh2230, hadn't closed his blockquotes tags and it left the forum in a weird state (atleast in my browser anyway). I'm not just spamming retarded posts.
and...that's another reason I was in no hurry to see the ban overturned. Never really believed he was gone permanently; but he's back, and apparently a big enough douche to sick the secret service on his enemies as if they've got nothing more important to do. (sigh)

Oh well, here's hoping we all enjoyed our brief respite.
I'm sure he's already banned again, and hopefully, restrained from returning.
"First of all love your spelling of KILOMETRE"


Not that I want to defend Jack at all (the thought of which makes my skin crawl), but kilometer is an accepted and standard spelling of kilometre in the US. So much so that on my spell check plugin for firefox kilometre is underlined as being misspelled while kilometer isn't underlined.
@ConstantNeophyte

You're probably right - maybe it just slowed the spin down a little, which is actually fairly hard to do since all of his comments lack substance.

@Mattie

D'you suppose you can roast marshmallows over the remains of his career?
@DavCube:

Actually, if I recall correctly, it's not the first time he's contavted the Secret Service to report death threats in order to have them do his dirty work for him. He's done it before. Only difference, as I recall, was the alleged threat was against one of them Bushes (either Papa or Baby) and, of course, Jack's intended victim was someone other than GP.
There is a very simple solution for this:

Unban Jack. Set up a smaller blog account of some kind, such as livejournal Post all of Jack's posts and public emails, verbatim, to that blog as new entries, with comments enabled. Direct him to it each time he contacts you or posts on GP instead of there. Then, after a week, ban him again. He will naturally go to where his audience (the adoring fans like me and those who are in denial like a lot of you) can still see him yell without him constantly reconnecting to the internet for new IPs (or whatever method of ban evasion he's using).

Everyone still gets to laugh at him, Jack still gets to argue, anybody who replies to him on this board can be hit with a no-tolerance policy of message deletion/editing (with this policy posted on the front page, of course), everybody lives happily ever after.

This site doesn't need Jack, but as long as it has the same people visiting it who have visited it from the start, it will never outgrow him. Make a separate garden for the flowers and vegetables that attract the most insects.

Please?
@Jack

You know, Dennis did report your case accurately. Since it was obvious you weren't going to win it, the abstention doctrine was about the only way you were going to lose it. The whole point of your case was that the court should override the abstention doctrine and act in your behalf pre-emptively. This was denied. If it was really as unnecessary as you're claiming now in order to spin, you wouldn't have filed it.

You also wouldn't be filing a similar case in Alabama, which you will also lose due to no good reason to override abstention.

Also, numerous posters have shot down your references to "finishing the race". When he was known as Saul, Paul *was* a lot like you. He committed some of the vilest acts in the name of serving God. When Christ showed him the light and he became Paul, his heart softened and he truly followed what Jesus commanded (love the Lord your God with all your strength and your neighbor as yourself).

Strauss Zelnick is your neighbor, Jack. Dennis is your neighbor, Jack. We are your neighbor, Jack. Your heart cannot be so hardened and twisted with hate if you want to really profess the name of Christ. Christ will not know you.

BTW, if you were actually a competent lawyer, you'd know "freedom of speech" is a guaranteed right for only one person on this site, Dennis. Asserting you have freedom of speech here is like me saying I have freedom to give a speech about how much you suck inside your living room.

You could start your own blog, but let's face it. You'd be banning people on sight for disagreeing with you... or for making points you can't refute.

Like... when are you going to reimburse states for money they lost in legal fees defending un-Constitutional bills that you wrote?

@Dennis

Now he's actually calling the Secret Service?

My advice, Dennis... cyberstalking isn't just a civil matter, it's a criminal one. This has been continually getting worse.

I would honestly consider going to your local police station and swearing out a complaint against him. There's enough evidence to indicate that it isn't just some sour grapes thing, but that he is obsessed and sick.
Anyone willing to bet that Jack Thompson had what he was going to say in respose to his motion getting denyed prepared ahead of time?
@Back the Jack

Except Jack is worried about the psychological issues. He's just in it for the moolah. Every other political agenda he's had was sure to pay him if he won.

By the way, if you are a gamer, why don't you tell me what exactly is Jack Thompson's goal?
@Kris

This is why I said to check his wikiquote. Sure, anyone can edit it, but when each quote comes with it's source, I think it's more that trustworthy.
Congratulations on escaping that fire, Dennis, although I'm sure you weren't all that worried in the first place. No way Thompson's wild accusations withstand actual scrutiny.
Oh, and about how long until we begin seeing disciplinary actions or a full disbarment? I hope that Judge Jordan's got some pull so that Jack's nonsensical gibberish can finally be halted (or at least severely lessen the impact).
Fully dismissed. I love JT's desperate bid to stall the upcoming trial. With any luck it will be recognised as the stall tactic that it is, and is used against him.

And so it begins. The fall of Wacky Jack Thompson is nigh. Oh, how I'm going to enjoy this.

*gets himself fully comfortable; popcorn, beer and red bull at the ready*
Thompson didn't have ANY logical reasoning with his case. It should be no suprise this bullcrap got tossed.

@Juggernautz
You got some popcorn and beer to share?
yes, I was gratified to see the motion to sue me denied, although, obviously, it doesn't preclude some future action.

May I ask that, in comments, readers do not hand this person any additional ammunition to use against GP or individual readers themselves?

Sticking to the issues is always best.
I would say you've dodged a bullet, but really is was a drunk bullet fired from a rubber band gun. Now I want to move on to his disbarment(sp?) hearing.

Anyway it looks like he is grasping at straws. I'll bet his office in that little strip mall looks like a war zone. Maybe he could ask Norm Kent for some help?
The best responce I can think of is to just point and laugh at Thompson.
Thompson's law career is just about over.
I wish JT would just BE A MAN and take what is coming to him. These delay tactics are wasting everyone's time, pissing off the wrong people (or him), and probably causing him extra stress.

He needs to man up and get this all over with.
Thompson looks like a sad panda in that picture.
Cue Queen's "We Are the Champions!" :D

Yeah, I knew this would probably go nowhere, but it's still good to know. Also it's a good indication of how Judge Jordan will probably rule.

It's shaping up to be a bad holiday season for Jack and a very good one for the rest of us! :)
I haven't had this much fun since watching Will Ferrell's movie "Kicking and Screaming". That or watching a mother drag their annoying child out of the supermarket because the kid wants ice cream.
*grabs the popcorn* I think the good parts are coming up now. I hope to enjoy the show as we all know it has to be a good one.
"May I ask that, in comments, readers do not hand this person any additional ammunition to use against GP or individual readers themselves?"

@GP: Well, most of us here are pretty decent at staying on topic...we just get the few guys that come in every once in awhile who end up saying something stupid, like "I will hunt you down and murder you while you sleep!" or something to that effect.

On topic, though - hooray! This was a simple decision for the judge to make. Pretty much any [completely baseless] claims of conspiracy should be an automatic "no trial."
@ BearDogg-X

I agree with you, in a sense. Cue "Gollum's Song"...
Nice, very nice. Glad to see this didn't drag out too long, and glad this Thompson stuff is heading towards a speedy resolution.
HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Ah, seriously though. Who really thought that this wouldn't happen? It's Jack Thompson. He hasn't won a court case in 10 years plus. And whenever someone offensds him, his response is 'oh nos, lawsuit'.
All this proves is that the 11th U.S. Circuit Court AND the Florida Bar, like the ESRB, are yet another tool of the video game industry and proves just how deep the political pockets of the game industry run. Also it is clear that Judge Jordan has been bought off and become another industry lapdog. Furthermore it is obvious that the courts plan to uphold a long standing pattern of prejudice and discrimination in this nation towards white hetero Christian males.

Fight the power Jacky; you’ll unravel this conspiracy yet!
If I'm reading that new motion right, it seems he's insinuating conspiracy between the judges and clerks against him now. I'm still waiting for the day the CIA makes it into his conspiracy theories.
Well, whoop-dee-frikkin-doo!!

I'll bet EVERYONE saw this coming.
@ everyone

Jack Thompson's so-called "Gamer-Antigamer War" (or to some people, Jack's personal crusade) is about to come to an end. It will end with Jack Thompson losing his license to practice law permanently. So, the fall of Jack Thompson is about to begin.
...

Ow. Reading Thompson's emergency request to stay his trial is like watching a bad movie without Joel and the bots to help numb the pain. I really wish he would stop thinking of himself as Jesus too because it's an insult to Jesus.
I'LL GET YOU NEXT TIME MCCAULEY! AND YOUR LITTLE DOG TOO! NEEEEXXXXTTTT TIIIMMMMEEEEE! *Shakes fist*


Poor Jack, where's Jerry Fletcher when you need him?
Thank You Jack Thompson for protecting us!!!!! By losing this case.. you might just do that :)
While I'm not convinced he'll be disbarred, it's good to see his half-assed countersuit has been shot down.

-P
OMG I was just reading the emergency stay appeal, and JT has actually gone insane. A few prime excerpts:

[i]The Bar will not in the least be prejudiced by the entry of such an order staying the trial, as The Bar has managed, by its 40-month-long harassment of Thompson, to utterly destroy his practice of law, so Thompson is not in a position to harm “the public,” none of whom, by the way, has ever complained about Thompson’s ethics. Indeed, the only people who have complained are two corrupt judges and two companies that criminally distribute pornography to children.

WHEREFORE, Thompson moves this court for the emergency stay of the state “disciplinary” trial scheduled to commence this coming Monday before Referee Dava Tunis, who denied Thompson hearings on all constitutional issues and denied Thompson all meaningful discovery in the disciplinary case, even to the point of refusing to issue subpoenas. Jesus had a similar “trial” before Pilate.[/i]

Apparently, JBT is the second coming, and his persecuation shall bring about armegeddon and judgment. Therefore repent all ye sinners!!!!!
Great news, it's nice to see that some people can see through his bullshit and recognize it for the lies, misinformations and general flim-flamerry it is.

His appeal seems to take on a totally new tactic however. In it, he claims that he has been ruled against because of some vast conspiracy, goes on to mention Take Two and other Judges who have ruled against him and then say it's all to silence him. Actually, hang on... This is the same as all his other stuff. When you shoot yourself in the foot and find out it hurts, you don't keep on firing. Shame Jack can't figure this out...

I also find hilarious the reference he makes at the end. He has in the past compared himself to Winston Churchill, Paul Revere and Martin Luther King. Now he has decided to go all out and reach for the big Kahuna of comparisons, Jesus Christ himself. I seem to remember previous motions or filings where he said that he is only a servant of Christ's, and that he is not worthy but tries to do his work. Now apparently he's exactly the same as Jesus. What was the name of that narcissistic complex disorder thingy?

The Judge and courts have made all the correct decisions so far. I anticipate they will continue to do the same thing, deny this appeal, then everyone can get on with putting this irritating and frankly embarrassing episode behind them. The appeal is nothing more than the same thing, but with new insults and crazy language that has no place in a legal document. If someone tells you that 2+2 does not equal 5, then shouting it louder or pleading with them will not make them change their mind.
"In response, Thompson has filed a notice that he intends to appeal Judge Jordan’s decision."

DENIED!

There, I just did it for you :P And the 26? Five more days; makes me want to throw a party.
Wow. It's amazing to see such absolute desperation.

And incredibly satisfying.
I'm trying real hard to see the "Emergency" the demands a Stay order. Medical emergencies and/or brand new information might, but I see neither. Coincidental separate rulings is not new information, but rather a vague accusation of collusion. I believe the Judge who threatened him with disciplinary actions withdrew his comments, so how can they be false?

I don't know why some of us feel JT will stop crusading against games. It is clear that the majority of his crusade is as a citizen, not as a lawyer. If anything, he will have more time for the crusade.
Thompson is not in a position to harm “the public,” none of whom, by the way, has ever complained about Thompson’s ethics. Indeed, the only people who have complained are two corrupt judges and two companies that criminally distribute pornography to children.
Once again Jacko can't keep his stories straight. I thought that gamers were flooding the bar with complaints. Of course I'm sure that in Jacko's eyes gamers aren't part of "the public."
Well, just read all i wanted to read from that filing. Yet AGAIN he compares himself to Jesus.

Dear lord, i've said it before, i'll say it again, i'm actually expecting him to, at some point, claim to be the second coming. It actually would not surprise me. I'm not even kidding.
@Booya: Dangit, man, you stole my idea! What's the point of coming to GP if I can't be the first one with a flippant commentary examining the overdone zealotry on both sides of the issue? Some days I just feel like I'm wasting my hyperbolic powers.

On a serious note: I wouldn't go counting Jack out of it just yet, given that the disciplinary hearing has been scheduled since February to review events that took place up to two years ago. I'd be surprised if he's been turfed by 2010. (Then again, I have no idea how American law works - maybe things move faster from this point on.)
@ Robb

He wont stop his crusade but at least he'll have less power to do what he wants. Without his license he would have to pay to bring all these ludicrous cases to court plus I doubt there's another lawyer insane enough to take this cases. On top of that I doubt any TV networks will be inviting him onto their shows after he's been disbarred for inappropriate conduct. Ultimately he'll just be a guy sitting at home writing threatening emails to people who know he's as harmless as a fly.

The only concern is that after he's disbarred he'll consider the "gloves to be off". As improbable as it seems, even Jack must of placed certain restrictions on himself. After he's disbarred he has no reason to follow ANY rules set out by the bar (and society).
Here, pull this string hanging from my sweater. Then, it all starts to unravel...


Congrats, GP!!
Dear GamePolitics

Does this mean you can unban Thompson now, since he can't make anymore threats to sue you?

Regards,

Tom Arden, student, University of Leeds
Oh, I missed this little gem in the motion:

"so Thompson is not in a position to harm “the public,” none of whom, by the way, has ever complained about Thompson’s ethics."

Neil Rogers is a person in the public who had reason to complain about Thompson's ethics. Indeed, to the extent that he had to get a restraining order.
Dennis had to make a complaint as a member of the public as he was being harassed by Thompson.
The only reason that none of us as members of the public have not complained about him formally is that his unethical behaviour has done such a good job of running his reputation into the ground we didn't have to. I wonder how many tax payers who funded the failed laws that he co-wrote would complain about him if they knew how much of their money he helped waste unethically, not giving a damn whether his bill held water or not, just as long as it catered to his opinions.
How about the ethics of using his own kid in "stings" to further his personal agenda against Take Two?
How about his ethics in contacting the department of a police officer shot by an escaping violent criminal and saying "Hi, sorry about your loss, VIDEO GAMES, VIDEO GAMES, VIDEO GAMES!".
How about his ethics in signing up to a video game forum, one of whose members had recently taken his own life despite efforts by the admins and members to talk him out of it and then gloated about the fact that someone was dead?
How about his ethics in prying into Janet Reno's sexuality simply because she defeated him in going for a professional position.
Etc, etc.

There's plenty of ethically nasty things he has done, but as far as he is concerned, anything he does can't be wrong. I mean, he is like Jesus after all :P
I also like how he vaguely accuses the courts of conspiring together, and then turns around and offers a possible reason for why they coincidentally made their rulings at the same time - the Thanksgiving holiday. Since the courts are probably closed Thursday and Friday they're trying to clean up as much as they can prior to that. Maybe they hurried to release rulings on Tuesday to allow for the parties to read it Wednesday and know what's going on prior to being on holiday Thursday thru Sunday and then starting the trial on Monday?
Is it just me, or are half the "facts" (taken at face value, the court makes no comment on whether they are mistruths or BS) summarized in the dismissal, all centring around some kind of gay conspiracy?
@Tom Arden: The ruling doesn't deny JT's motion to add Dennis on grounds of merit - he just can't add them to the existing case against the bar. JT is still free to sue Dennis over the same things he had alleged previously, but it'd be part of a separate suit (and therefore the allegations of conspiracy would make even less sense.)
First, Mr. Thompson already made many of the same claims with respect to his disciplinary proceedings in a case he filed against he Florida Bar and others in the Southern District in 2006. In that case, Judge Huck ruled that
Younger/Middlesex abstention was appropriate. Mr. Thompson did not appeal that ruling, and that ruling is now conclusive as to abstention (at least with respect to the allegations presented in that case).


For a guy who's out to "destroy" the Florida Bar, he sure loves not actually doing it...

If he was actually being harassed by the Bar, he would have had ample grounds to appeal. Since he didn't, it's clear he's using the Federal courts as a club to threaten the Bar into doing things his way. When they call his bluff, he backs down.
Wow, I've never seen the word, "denied" so many times in one document.

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Pigeons. Home. Roost.

Have fun Jack.
Guys, be realistic. Jack's not going to go away. He's either going to latch onto some watchdog like Common Sense Media, or he'll be a frothing civic protestor "unchained" by the rules of decorum he labored under while employed as a lawyer.
That's right, Jack: it's all a conspiracy. The Bar doesn't like you because they're in bed with the games industry, Norm Kent is selling porn to kids on the street, and Dennis is the Grand Wizard.

What's more, Rockstar has contracted me, personally, to crawl the internet and goad the mindless legions of gamers into a state of frenzy so that they'll go to school after Thanksgiving and commit unthinkable acts of sex and violence on a scale not seen since before Noah rode his Ark.

Oh, and one more thing: the tryptophan in turkey? The government put it there! Every Thanksgiving at midnight, secret agents scramble through the neighborhood and implant microchips into kids' brains while everyone is passed out from the poultry. They then use the kids as slaves in sweat shops they run after school. Mom and Dad think their little angel is just at some after-school program playing dodgeball and finger-painting, but really they're soldering together more brainwashing microchips and feeding them to their lunchtime friends whenever they share their food!

Oh, and World of Warcraft is just a simulation for the impending apocalypse. For the hoard!
*/writes down the date for Jack's disciplinary trial in scheduler and Outlook*
All sorts of gems here:

(fact that plaintiffs were not granted a hearing when they believed they were entitled to one is not enough to justify federal intervention in pending state proceedings)

It's too bad he couldn't really comment on the absurdity of JT's claims, but it's nice to know that JT's inability to actually go through with the disciplinary hearing, and then appeal it, has failed miserably.

This suit was nothing but a stalling tactic. Just like declaring he's running for a judge's position, firing off dozens of motions in response to any filing, demanding various people outside the court's jurisdiction be compelled to come to testify, and finding any excuse under the sun to recluse council, judges, etc.
.... wait, did he just compare himself to Jesus? Messiah complex much?

Mr. Thompson, I've watched a lot of TV and moves over the years. If it's taught me one thing, it's that no one takes you seriously when you make everything into a conspiracy theory.

They have a word for this, it's called crazy. And your self induced sanity test? As the Inquisitors of the Imperium in Warhammer 40,000 are known to say:

"Innocence proves nothing."
He might have had rules of decorum as a lawyer, but he didn't keep to them, which is, in essence, what this hearing is about.

Ye, Jack won't go away, he's too crazy for that, but his misinformation loses a lot of weight, he won't be able to fool people as easily.

He can call me all the names under the sun, I don't give a damn, but the thing that made Thompson such a loose cannon was the fact he seemed to think his law degree gave his opinions the weight of fact.
@Phantom:

"Guys, be realistic. Jack’s not going to go away. He’s either going to latch onto some watchdog like Common Sense Media, or he’ll be a frothing civic protestor “unchained” by the rules of decorum he labored under while employed as a lawyer."

If this is out of line, Dennis, feel free to shit-can the comment, but Phantom, you say that as if rules of conduct and decorum ever stopped him before.
So a motion with no legal merit was dismissed, perhaps our legal system isn't entirely bassackwards.

Good to know the fledgling ECA isn't going to have to hire a lawyer, those overpriced scumsuckers! (lol) Also good to know that GP can still continue as usual, with no false threat of lawsuits to hamper your writing about JT's doings.

GP, I request that you delete and warn any poster who tries that stupid "First!" crap. Thanks.
I'll also add that all this flailing around trying to delay the proceedings looks very much to me like a guilty man trying to put off the inevitable, not an innocent man trying to prove himself.
Unsurprising that this got thrown out.

The part I find funniest is that if Jack didn't fight this whole discipline thing kicking and screwing all the way, then he'd probably actually have a better chance of keeping his license. After all, in my experience, professional organizations don't like completely kicking out one of their members if a lesser disciplinary action would suffice.

Yet no, Jack has to kick, and scream, and rant, and threaten, send gay porn to a judge, allege conspiracy, and generally make himself even more unprofessional, and unethical. All because he can't possibly conceive of the idea of him being the one that's out of line, or that the rules apply to him.
When was the last time Jack Thompson posted a comment on this site?
He claims that the Florida Bar has not informed him of the statements which purportedly violate Florida Bar Rules, or how they violate the Florida Bar Rules. Mr. Thompson, unfortunately, has not attached the pending disciplinary complaints to his third amended complaint.

So... he claims they didn't give him notice of what rules he violated when they sent him a notice telling him he was up for disciplinary review, but he didn't give the judge a copy of the notice so the judge could see for himself that they didn't say why he received the notice...

Must have been too busy filing gay porn to remember to file a document critical to his case...
Now would be a good time to shun the man, folks. Just turn our backs, ignore his existence, and he'll finally become nothing more than an internet meme.

[commence shunning]

Wait, who were we talking about?
@video game time

"When was the last time Jack Thompson posted a comment on this site?"

I dunno. I imagine he'll pop up if we say his name about five more times...in front of a mirror
interesting that the filing referred to this site as "A video game industry website".
@Video Game Time

The last time he posted was to threaten us that he was going to get revenge on us all because one person allegedly threatened him (I still don't buy the fact that the phrase 'One possible solution' can be interpreted as a threat, but I don't know American law well enough to say from a legal standpoint).

That's the kind of straight-up person Thompson is...
So Jack is about to trade in a law license he doesn't even use for martyrdom. That's a net gain for him. His rhetoric will be louder and more shrill than ever. And he'll have a new refrain with claims that the big media corporation porno pushers conspired to cost him his job because they feared his truth. Who is the public going to believe, a lone Christian standing strong against the tide of filth washing over our children or a big heartless corporation?

He's not going away, not by a long shot.

Sad, really.
I would hold my breath over Thompson being disbarred just yet. Remember, he has an uncanny ability to turn on the charm and act like a decent human being when the situation calls for it.

Of course, when things don't go his way he turns into a raging lunatic: giant cardboard signs, eleventy-one page letters to the presiding judge,all those great things.

This is going to be quite a show.
@video game time

When was the last time Jack Thompson posted a comment on this site?

Just before he tried to add Dennis to the list of defendants.

Mr. Thompson’s complaint makes clear that he has been apprised of the statements that give rise to the disciplinary complaints.

So his claim that he has not been notified, is contradicted by the fact that he then proceeds to list off the statements from each complaint that have landed him in front of the disciplinary committee...

I don't know how much more silliness I can take.
Phantom's right. Jack Thompson, attorney, won't give up, he'll just become Jack Thompson, martyr. Whatever rules of professional conduct he thinks he's been following will go out the window. That said, I still think it's the way to go; if only because of the savings to the taxpayers. (In terms of court costs.) Hopefully he'll at least need to work through another attorney to file his cases, and if he indeed thinks his law practice has been "destroyed", well, hopefully the other lawyer will show some discretion. Call it a mild fantasy, but maybe he'll find a different way to achieve his ends. Start trying to persuade people who don't agree with him, rather then bludgeoning everyone who doesn't share his opinion with the court system as his own personal weapon.
@ TheGreg

Comparing himself to Jesus is nothing new to Thompson. He takes his 'born again Christian' status way too literally.

@ Phantom

Like i said before, it's got going to surprise me if he 'snaps' at some point. He's been blathering his retoric for so long that he's actually conned himself into believing it. It's been nearly 10 years.

@ video game time

On the last article about him. (the one that mentioned Thompson filing the suit) Dennis, not wanting a legal opponent on his site, for obvious reasons, banned his IP Address. But he came back. Several times. Somebody needs to contact his ISP, as cirvumventing multiple IP bans is a big Terms of Service no-no...
@Tenshigami,

Now he's not posting any more and deliberately getting people's backs up, people will soon lose interest, if you take away the insulting nature from Jack Thompson, there's precious little left worth paying attention to, maybe that's why he did it.
And We Win Again! YEAH!
this is great. Not only will I be having tons of food on my 4 day weekend, I Get to write down the date he will most likely lose alot of credibility.

unfortunatly Fox news will probably still call him, except for violent videogame expert lawyer at the bottom it will just say violent video game expert..... I doubt anyone will notice he is no longer a lawyer for being a complete "insert insult here". I am sure he won't go away, but his ability to just throw around the phrase "I'm a lawyer and your not" won't have any merit anymore. but I am sure he will continue to throw around his 60 minutes thing and the fact he wrote a book... RL stien wrote alot of books Jack, does that make him a genious?... probably not, but I am sure he is more sane than you.
I agree with the "Well, DUH" contingent. But this article is less about informing us that the case didn't stand up, it's just about informing us that what we all knew would happen, has actually happened.

Nov. 26th can't come too soon =)
So, how long do we have until he pops up lauding this decision as a "victory" for him, and that we are all just too stupid from the games to see the truth of it.
motion for judicial notice of Adolf Hitler's revocation of the licenses of lawyers in 1938

WTF? Has he seriously Godwin's Law'd his own trial?
What a surprise. Well, not really. More like the surprise that water is wet, but whatever. I believe that Jack has dug himself a hole. A deep hole. He may never go away, but at least without the right to practice law he can't file frivolous claims (Bully as a public nuisance) as easily. Also, it takes away from his credibility. What's he gonna do if a show invites him on and asks about his disbarment? Exclaim how it was some vast conspiracy? That'll go over real well. The only people who will listen to him are the zealots he's created.

Go Florida State Bar!

@ Juggernautz

Popcorn? Beer? I don't know about that... I was thinking PAR-TAY!! Let's deep fry a couple turkeys, make up some mixed drinks, and turn up the tunes. Price of admission is some sort of food. If we gonna do this thing, we gotta do it with style.
He also paralleled his situation to that of Jesus. Nice one.
@Gameboy

Can we dress up for it?
Seriously, did he compare himself to Jesus AGAIN at the end of his emergency motion? I think so.

Now, I admit freely that I'm not a Bible "scholar", but "Thou shalt not take the name of the lord, thy God in vain" seems to apply here.

Granted, the 10 commandments came BEFORE Jesus, but since Jesus is God (Holy Trinity, much?) doesn't using the name of Jesus to selfishly try and protect oneself from harm constitute as using His name for vanity?

Now, everyone here already knows that Jack is a misguided fanatic, but does he realize that he shouldn't be able to claim himself a Christian "fighting for the children" when he repeatedly violates God's Law, much less the laws of men?
Well this is fantastic news. I am glad to hear that the judge was able to see through the sea of lies and deceit. This is a great day.

Congrats to Dennis that he will not be added to any kind of suit. Sorry to see that John Bruce is still able to sue you if he really thinks he has a case.

My advice to John Bruce on that matter is to wait until after the bar proceedings to see if you still have a legal career before doing so.
@ BlackIce

I'm thinking casual wear. But hey if you wanna wear a tux, feel free. :P
I've sent several e-mail complaints to every person on the Florida Bar who looked like they'd have something to do with an ethics complaint against a lawyer. I pointed out several examples each time where Jack was way off the mark.

I never formally filed a complaint though, maybe I should have.
I think it'd be hilarious if it was like, the shortest disciplinary trial ever (with his license revoked, of course).
Yay. It's good to see things like this from judges. I can't wait for the trial next week too. Unless, of course, his emergency motion passes... Then 2 weeks from now.
Judge: The complaint states that Dr. Wunderman’s formal assessment is 7 attached, see Complaint at ¶ 47, but no such assessment is an exhibit to the complaint.

JT:Judge Jordan suggests in his Order that he did not have the Forensic Psychological Report of Dr. Oren Wunderman which proves the bad faith of The Bar in demanding that Thompson plead guilty and then be assessed for mental illness. The Report is right there in the court file.

Jeeze JT, learn to read. The judge isn't saying he doesn't have a copy of the assessment, but rather that the assessment was a properly attached exhibit to your complaint.

Sheesh, did you sleep through "how to submit evidence 101" class as well? References, references, references. If it's not properly attached as an exhibit, then it is just another in a pile of spam. And you filed a lot of spam.

By a remarkable “coincidence,” the trial court below dismissed Thompson’s civil rights and declaratory judgment action mere minutes before this appellate court dismissed Thompson’s petition.

Except he didn't. He declared that it wasn't the right time for a higher court to intervene in what is constitutionally a state matter. Should Thompson get disbarred, THEN he can take his case to a higher court.

If U.S. District Court Judge Adalberto Jordan had in fact not been told by the Eleventh Circuit what it was going to do, thereby otherwise risking looking foolish by dismissing an action from which he might have been disqualified, then Judge Jordan has a clairvoyance capability...

Sheesh, every thing's a conspiracy. JT's disciplinary trial is the 26th, which is Monday. Therefore the courts had 3 days to file. Yesterday, today, and tomorrow (Friday is out due to Thanksgiving). By dismissing yesterday, it gives JT 2 full days to file an appeal. The 11th probably knew that Jordan would file soon, so they too quickly filed to give JT ample time to respond.

Judge Jordan can file whether he believes he's allowed to or not. If they rule in favour, he's in the clear. If they rule against him, then his ruling is overturned. He's not "looking foolish" if he gets overturned. Besides, what is the timing?

the trial court below dismissed Thompson’s civil rights and declaratory
judgment action mere minutes before this appellate court dismissed Thompson’s petition.


Dismissed it mere minutes before? Does JT have timestamps on both filings? Are the clocks the same in both offices? Maybe the 11th ruled mere minutes before Jordan did? Maybe Judge Jordan had his response all typed up, and waited for a phone call saying "we've ruled, we're just filing the documents now, so go ahead and file yours". It's not unheard of, and to use that as a conspiracy theory? Sad.
Commencing maniacal laughter in 3, 2, 1;
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Are all these D.E. numbers in the order on pending motions refering to motions/documents Thompson tried to file? The one about GamePolitics is number 332. I know some of them most be from the defendants, but he probably accounts for the vast majority of them. Did he actually try to file near 300 of his own press releases, irrelevant articles and wild conspiracy theories? Holy crap.
@GoliathWins

I know they were over 200 the last time I heard a count.
Jack never had a case against Dennis to begin with. He clearly has no idea how the internet works.

I don't know how many of you were here in the Livejournal days. Jack was getting e-mail alerts every time somebody replied to his posts (an LJ feature) and accused Dennis of deliberately setting up GP that way in order to harass him. Everyone TRIED explaining it to Jack, but he just kept on with his finger-pointing and then starting demanding that every responder post their real name and home address, lest they violate a Florida cyberstalking law.
@Timmay!

Best not to bother, let the bar clean up its own mess, that way it gives him less grounds to let his paranoia get the better of him.
@ Phantom

"Guys, be realistic. Jack’s not going to go away. He’s either going to latch onto some watchdog like Common Sense Media, or he’ll be a frothing civic protestor “unchained” by the rules of decorum he labored under while employed as a lawyer. "

Actually, CSM, as much as I dislike them and their methods, are smart enough to know that associating themselves with Thompson is essentially political suicide. Most people have already distanced themselves from him, seeing him as more of a threat to their credibility than to gamers.

But, yes, I can see him being the civic protestor.
@Quad9damage,

Yup, I remember that clearly, if I were of a malicious frame of mind, I'd be deeply suspicious of his repeated attempts to get personal details on what he considers to be 'kiddies' over the Internet.
I have to wonder what this guy will do for a liveing when he can't practice law.
BTW, Just because JBT isn't practicing law doesn't mean he won't be fighting the cause.

He'll probably stand to make a lot of money as a representative for a advocacy group. He already has multiple contacts to provide this outlet. So while you may not see him pushing through cases on his on, he has the uncanny ability to convince elected officials and others to take up causes that are suspect at best. While doing so, he'll be able to make a good profit I am sure.

Because when it comes down to it, being a good Christian is all about the Benjamins.
also, how many times do you think he will hire someone to sue to try and get his ability to practice law back?
Please for give me typing gods for my spelling mistakes. TYVM
Tick tock tick tock, he can't stop the clock.

At least he is again doing his part to keep the courthouse nice and toasty with all his frivolous filings.

Won't make him realize he IS NOT untouchable thought. Hammer time is over.
I have a strong feeling that losing his license to practice law will simply result in him doubling or tripling his effort to stay in the limelight. If he cannot get into a public position at some advocacy group, he will most likely start his own so that he still has some form of credibility.

We will probably see a lot more "press releases" from him (but not really here) as he is setting this up.

John Bruce will not simply go away. People don't go to hell quietly.
Ugh. Beware the desperate acts of desperate men. If Jack Thompson is on his last leg, then I would venture he could be more dangerous now than ever before.

Who knows what more he has planned ... I'm going to proverbially stand at the back of the room ready to bolt if things go poorly.
I'm going to go against the grain here and say something for Jack. Before that, I'd like to say I am no fan of him. But it DOES appear to be a bit of a coincidence that both these rulings not only land on the same day, but that they come on the wednesday before Thanksgiving. His trial for disbarment is Monday. The court has left him mere hours to do anything to stop it. Honestly, I don't think it would matter if he had ten hours or ten days, the result would be the same. But it is a bit unfair to basically give him no time to make any sort of legal reply before he will almost undoubtedly lose his bar. It would be in a bit better taste if the Bar had set his hearing later in the week or in the following week.

Also, as I read all these comments, I see that most of you are glad to see JT go. When he is disbarred, I will have mixed emotions. Through Jack's actions, he has made his crusade a one man show. No one will stand by him. This makes him significantly less effective than he could be. When he is disbarred and removed from the scene, that leaves an opening for someone that IS capable of attacking the industry. Furthermore, every case Jack has brought against the game industry has gone in our favor. This is extremely important, as it sets legal precedent. When other states attempt to legislate violent video games, they must now consider the number of states that have tried. Jack has been a large part of that. When killers try to blame their actions on a game, courts will also be able to look at failed lawsuits from Jack in making their decisions. It's kind of strange, but Jack has inadvertently helped the industry he has sought to destroy.

That said, he has caused a lot of little nuisances for gamers, and it will not break my heart to see him silenced. The world does not need an "expert" like him.

I just hope his eventual replacement is as ineffective as Jack was. Otherwise, we might all be in danger of seeing some of his ideals become reality.
@Gameboy

Why not wearing some black robe and a white judge wig? This would add a nice touch.

Thompson is pulling the Alfonso Gagliano card (playing victim). Since the Bar got no illusion about his antics, the jury that will judge him will be well informed enough to see through his incoherent rants.

If he tries to rant publicly after losing his licence, I bet most persons WILL be able to sue him for libel.

And I seriously doubt that he'll do more TV appearance. As an ex-lawyer, he won't look credible anymore (especially if his disbarment is public). And he'll be too busy finding a new job (even him has to earn a living) to make more appearances.
GP didn't even have to go to the piggy bank to defend themselves. I don't see why anyone would threaten violence against Jack Thompson. He seems to be doing plenty to himself.
Personally I am not holding out any hope what so ever that Thompson will be disbarred, he has managed to dodge it time and time again and until he has actually had his license to practise torn up then I just don’t believe that anything will ever get done about him.

Slap on the wrist and a fine, which Thompson will claim is what he wanted all along, followed by yet more pointless legal threats and boost that he was on this show or that show.

Still I for one would like to see an opinion piece by Dennis about what he thinks about all this after the 26th to know what he really thinks about this whole situation.
Congratulations Dennis!

Now enjoy the Thanksgiving Holiday with some piece of mind :D
@ Jabrwock

Actually, when he does get disbarred it means that he no longer will have 'free' legal services (himself), and will have to hire a lawyer himself and pay their legal fees. Now, assuming he can get someone to represent him, and assuming that he can afford to pay them, his delaying tactics and outright abuse would become a financial burden to him as it means more work for said hired gun; and as we all know lawyers charge for every little thing.

As for him comparing himself to Jesus, he should know better, as that is blasphemy and a great way to earn a one way ticket to a fiery place with pitchforks. Of course, when did JT ever actually act like a devote Christian to begin with? Not in recent memory, that's for sure. Perhaps he should reread the parts of the new testiment that talk about loving thy brother, and turning the other cheek. This is, of course, after he takes a refresher course in reading comprehension.
Congratulations Dennis! We knew that the lawsuit wouldn't go anywhere.
@J_Sensei

It's true that JT has been left little time to respond and react to his motion being denied. But let's bear in mind that these are motions that have only been filed days ago. Judge Jordan could not reasonably have responded much more quickly... he likely has other cases to attend to, and Jack has been swamping his desk with over a hundred such motions. Jack files these motions at the eleventh hour, he can hardly complain when he is left little time to respond to their denial.

Delaying his hearing would be a mistake, and utterly unreasonable in the circumstances. Jack would be able to postpone his hearing indefinitely just by continuing to file ridiculous motions (and he's already been filing them at a rate of 2 or more per day). He has known the date of his hearing for months now, and there is no reason to delay it just because Jack continues to file motions (and now an Emergency Request! I smell desparation) up until the very last minute.
Jack compared himself to Jesus again.

What I find funny is that he says that the public is behind him, that the only ones who opposes his ethics are two "porn to children" companies and two corrupt judges. The number of people who he accused of criminal conduct but who never got arrested or found guilty of anything is amazing.
Every parent who got Halo 3 to their sixteen years old must be criminals too.
He really needs to learn when to give up, lol.

Congrats Dennis
@ GryphonOsiris

I completely agree with you. If Jack has no law license then he must use someone else's services in order to file all the motions and suits he does. So he will either have to pay this person or find someone who's willing to do it without charge. There's no doubt in my mind this other person (if they're competent) will not be able to put 100% of their efforts into JT's cause. JT's conclusion will then be that they're part of the vast video game industry conspiracy and break all ties.

I for one think this is the last throws of the gaming industry's first nemesis. Without his license Jack Thompson is a toothless tiger that looks no more intelligent than those people who stand outside post offices telling you that person X of the government is actually and alien plotting world take over.

For one I feel this is a great example of how the United States legal system works. BS does not fly.

I'm also going to go out on a limb and predict that Jack will be disbared. He's shown lack of respect for legal proceedure and judicial rule time and time again. He's upset other lawers on a professional level and wasted a LOT of court time. Disbaring him is the only real way to go for them to solve an internal problem within the legal profession.
"The Bar will not in the least be prejudiced by the entry of such an order staying the trial, as The Bar has managed, by its 40-month-long harassment
of Thompson, to utterly destroy his practice of law, so Thompson is not in a position to harm “the public,” none of whom, by the way, has ever complained about Thompson’s ethics."

The public has, by the way, never complained about his ethics? Exactly who consists of "the public"? The volleyball he calls Wilson that he made because he has no friends?
[...] As usual, Game Politics has the full story. [...]
Oh the pain.... the pain

I just slogged through the 24 page pdf. Of which about 20 pages where JBTs ravings it hurts. Gods below, I honestly had no clue to what depths JBTs lunacy had taken him.. But in an attempt to sum it up, his finger pointing seesm to fall under only a limited number of points.

He is Gay. Gay is bad. All gays are oiut to get him.
Blank Rome/Norm Kent. They are out to get him.
Florida Bar have forced him to plead guilty of things he was innocent of, questioned his sanity and Have not give him a chance to defend himself (but somehow found time to recieve and read HIS complaints). They are out to get him
Judges are biased against him. They are out to get him
Gamers/game companies have threatened him and brought SLAPP suits against him. They are out to get him.

My Favorite. And I quote this.
• At some unknown date, Dennis McCauley, the owner and operator of GamePolitics, whose website is www.gamepolitics.com, filed a bar complaint against Mr. Thompson. The Florida Bar dismissed this complaint with prejudice .10

Didn't know you had it in you Dennis. /bow. Which of course means that GP, the ECA and by proxy all other gaming sites are out to get him.

To attempt to sum all that up in a single words..... errr Paranoia.
I'm with Jabrwock and GoodRobotUs on this one. No, Jack won't go away completely. He is a fanatic after all. However, his disbarment will effectively neuter him. He can no longer claim to be a professional or a person of authority, and thus the media will stop coming to him as they usually like to go to people who can lay claim to some sort of professional title. I don't think they'll want to anyway once they find out the reasons why he was disbarred. And all anyone has to do is mention the filing of the gay porn. That ought to be enough to make them reconsider.

As has been pointed out, he will have to pay now to bring any suits he files and he isn't exactly rolling in cash. For that matter to add insult to injury, the court could also rule him as a vexatious litigant while they're at it, which could be highly likely at this point. And considering his reputation among his fellow lawyers, I don't think any of them would want to even get near him much less be willing to represent him.

As far as the whole fear that once he's stripped of his proefssional license he'll no longer be beholden to the rules of professional conduct, I wouldn't worry about that. As has been said, it never stopped him before. Besides, once he's allowed to act as crazy as he wants, it'll show him up to be the crazy old coot he's always been and he'll be percieved as another religious extremist in the same vein as Fred Phelps, Eric Rudolph or Jim Jones and thus be further marginalized into irrelevancy and effectively silence him.
@J_Sensei

I’m going to go against the grain here and say something for Jack. Before that, I’d like to say I am no fan of him. But it DOES appear to be a bit of a coincidence that both these rulings not only land on the same day, but that they come on the wednesday before Thanksgiving. His trial for disbarment is Monday.

Well, they kind of had to rule, or postpone his trial by default. As Jabrwock says they probably ruled as early before then as they could to give Jack fair time to response. Rather, as fair as you can get with him filing all these at the 11th hour and such. Besides, they ruled yesterday, giving him all of today to react. If they wanted to be unfair, they'd be ruling late today.

Not to mention that it's kind of unfair to expect the Bar to cater to Jack's stalling tactics. Plus they probably want to finish the trial as soon as possible, and having a weekend in the middle is inconvenient to that. So they'd want a monday, and the monday after Thanksgiving was probably just the one that was most clear of other business.
@jds

I wonder if he'll have his stationary changed with that on it?
@Nekowolf

"And the 26? Five more days; makes me want to throw a party."

Me too! Of course, that's my girlfriend's birthday so I kinda was already. Guess we'll have two things to celebrate now! :)
There is so much paranoia in that 24 page PDF, I thought I was reading a copy of "The Lone Gunmen" for a second.

A million interwebs to anyone who gets the reference.
Too bad for Jack his voice isn't as recognizable as Adam Wests, otherwise he could live threw his disbarring by voicing parodys of himself.
Honestly I'm not entirely sure that jack is going to be staying around much longer. I mean yes jack has always been crazy, but of late he seems to have become far more insane and irrational. I wouldn't think that he can keep this up without eventually just having a complete nervous breakdown because "the world is after him".

Still even if he does manage to preserve what I very loosely call his sanity, given his conduct he is on the fast track to disbarment. Although assuming he does manage to not go totally round the bend, I wouldn't dismiss his potential to cause damage to the industry. He's a true believer and true believers are very dangerous if you're not on the same side as them.
Folks: You do not have to be a bar-licensed lawyer to file a civil lawsuit. Being a lawyer just lets you represent other people in court as it certifies you know what you're doing enough to do a job worth being paid for. JT can keep filing lawsuits even if he's disbarred, and it won't cost him any more than it does now (a nominal filing fee, usually.) Anyone is permitted to represent himself in a civil suit, though ignorance of procedure is not a valid excuse for not following it.
It does, however, mean that he can no longer refer to himself as a lawyer or represent clients. No more representing the families of those slain in murders that may have been game related. It also means that he no longer has any professional certifications. I'm pretty sure that he can't be considered an expert in court without professional credentials, and while he could still be picked up by the news media they may be less eager to put a disgraced lawyer on.
Ha ha mr. crazy go bye bye now.
thankfully, Judge Jordan has proceeded through this whole mess with a level head and a clear knowledge of the law.

i'm glad Dennis wasn't fully dragged into the mire and hope by the holidays that Thompson is disbarred.

despite the requests of others, Dennis, i suggest you keep Thompson IP-banned for life. the last time you unbanned him, he was right back to his old tricks and i'd say with 98% certainty he'll never change.
@jds

Yeah no kidding. I look forward to the day when Jack tries to post here again, and we can all sign our names in our replies "xxx, not an attorney, but neither is Jack"
@A-wel Cruiz

That thing about the JFK assassination?
To all that say when Jack is gone someone more effective will replace him. I dont think thats going to happen after all if there all if there was someone more effective or even better they would have replaced Mr Thompson already.
Mr Thompson is fighting whats to come since he can put one and one together (sometimes). He knows that he's burned and destroyed many bridges. If the Florida bar disbar's him its more or less over for him. Since he's destroyed his bridge to many of the "watchdog groups" that probably would have loved to have him as their myrter (spelling?). If he hadn't done so much to besmurch his own credibility and insult those that would help him.
I think he thought he had a unassailable possition and didn't need any help nor needed it, Maybe he thought that the groups would only slow him down and weaken his possition and thus he pushed them away as detrimental, or maybe he thought they didn't have the level of conviction he had. regardless of the reasons he's more or less bickered, quarrled, and anticed himself into a one man island and he sees that the island is about be hit by a tornado (or tsunami if you prefer). and now he's scrambleing about doing everything he can to try to stop, destroy, or even divert it. but all he's doing is blowing into the wind.

boiled down he's grasping at straws cause he knows that otherwise he's lost his "war"
@Benji

Folks: You do not have to be a bar-licensed lawyer to file a civil lawsuit.

Yes, we realize that. To date though, the only "personal" lawsuits he's filed have been "nuisance" lawsuits, and suits against everyone who's ever complained about him.

The biggest suits he's had have been on behalf of someone else. He will no longer be able to do that.

Soon he'll just be another ornery old man writing nasty letters to the editor. Which he pretty much does now, but he files them in court instead of mailing them to the newspaper...
@Benji

While he could still file on his own, he'd be much more vulnerable to being ruled a vexatious litigant. Which would severely hinder his efforts to do anything.
@ jds

I say we reduce that to 2 cents. Been tossing in our 2 cents (not accounting for inflation) for a longish time, and just buy him a rubber stamp. Better yes how about a JBT signet ring and some sealing wax for his poison pen letters.
Jack has no idea, as a matter of law, why Judge Jordan's dismissed him. Jack has no idea how the abstention doctrine works. But all that doesn't really matter. The Southern District's a conspirator and the Court of Appeals is about to become one, too.

Anyone wanna take a bet against Jack soon appearing on the steps of the United States Supreme Court, head thrown back and baying at the full moon?
I love that Judge!!

Congrats Dennis =D
Johnny Bruce Thompson, massacre chaser and failed lawyer, hasn't let a denial keep him from trying again. Even if he gets disbarred he'll likely try to still be a troublemaker for the video game industry in one form or another.
There's no slight potential for a huge pay day in being a regular private citizen when it comes to what he does with his law license....
@gs2005

whiles its true he will still try and cause trouble lets be honest.

a disbarred lawyer coming before a judge? do i relly have to tell you how far that will go?
Disbared lawyers rank up there with defrocked priests. Ain't too many folks who have reputations to care about that like to cozy up with either of them. If Jack's disbared or otherwise ignomiously drummed out of the Bar, that right there'll be about 95% of whatever air's in his tires, I think. True, he isn't going to voluntarily abandon the spotlight, but I do suspect he'll soon be nostalgic for the days when he advised presidential candidates and drafted bills for state legislators.
@Jack Thompson
"Jesus had a similar “trial” before Pilate."

Not quite. Pilate found him innocent.
"'Why? What crime has he committed?' asked Pilate. But they shouted all the louder, 'Crucify him!' When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. 'I am innocent of this man's blood,' he said. 'It is your responsibility!'" (Matthew 27:23-24)

"Pilate called together the chief priests, the rulers and the people, and said to them, 'You brought me this man as one who was inciting the people to rebellion. I have examined him in your presence and have found no basis for your charges against him. Neither has Herod, for he sent him back to us; as you can see, he has done nothing to deserve death.'" (Luke 23:13-15)
Hmmmm did anyone read through his emergency request for stay for the disciplinary hearing? Methinks if his rubberband gets wound any tighter he is going to go Pop.

Wonder if Judge Jordan is going to slap him with a SLAPP suit now. He is accusing Judge Jordan of being more interested in the Patroits-Dolphin game than his case. That Jordan falsely claimed that Thompson had harmed "childred by presenting it evidence (aka gay porn) and that Jordan had committed so many factual errors in his dismissing of the case. Also and apparently Jacks law or grasp thereof is superior to that of a Judge. "Made so many misstatements of the applicable law."

And wraps that up with a wonderful line.

"The Bar has managed, by its 4--month-long harassment of Thompon, to utterly destroy his practice of law, so Thompson is not in a position to harm "the public" none of whom by the way, has ever complained of Thompson's ethics. "


Wow where the bloody hell has he been? Never complained? Gods below I can understand selective memory but that is pushing it. Everyone here has complained about him. Joystick has complained, Take Two/R*, Norm Kent... we need to keep a running list.

Oh and then he compared himself to Jesus again.

Salute!
I read all of Jordan's document and Thompson's document.

First, on Jordan's document, correct me if I am wrong, but basically the court is telling Thompson that he needs to wait like a patient little boy for the day of the hearing before he can flail and file motions and appeals. Thompson apparently instead of just waiting for the hearing to find out what he is being charged with, of which they will give him his chance to argue in his defense, is trying to have the whole thing thrown out, and is throwing all kinds of fastballs to do so. That's what I got from the document, but given all the references Jordan makes it was tough to follow in places.

As for Thompson's document, I laughed pretty hard at the part where no one in the public has complained about his ethics. Plenty of people have complained about his ethics, but I suppose he is referring to the people who actually matter. While I do agree he has been kinda shafted on time to respond, I think he needs to just let the hearing happen, find out what the Bar is charging him with, then defend accordingly. It makes no sense to waste so much time trying to get the hearing thrown out and accusing the Bar of not telling him what he is charged with, when they haven't even held the hearing yet to tell him what he is charged with. He's not going to get immediately disbarred on the spot as either he or many people here think, as Jordan pointed out, they will allow him his chance to argue his side, but they have to get to the hearing to do so, Jack's blocking the discovery of his charges with every motion to stay. Not that I understand his tactics to get the case killed before it even happens, but to sit there and allege that the Bar is not telling him why he is in trouble when they aren't required to tell him until the hearing, really Jack, just put down the stick and face the music.

But I will say that I am without not understanding Jack's backstory though, it does seem kinda unfair that almost anyone can file SLAPP lawsuits for merely complaining about one's behavior, justified or unjustified. I also have to agree that he isn't "insane" per se, he is simply devouted to his faith and opinion, so much that he can "act" insane sometimes, and act very unprofessional like.
And those who had gathered shouted, "Free Barabas! Free Barabas!"
Out with Jack and in with Billary. She'll probably appoint him to some cabinet position.
I know what I will be thankful for tomorrow!
he cited feiger?????????? omg feiger is just as much a legal hack as jacky boy
What, do you get something for losing 1,000 cases in a row? Like a gold watch or something?

Anyway the real shame is I'll be out of town if he is forced into early retirement, so I won't hear about it till sunday.
i'm glad our dark overlords have smote the thompson, now i can get back to selling manhunt to 3rd graders.
Anyone know how quick the Florida courts are to update filings to the public record?
What the hell was this case about? Going by Judge Jordan's pdf, Jack was trying to tie Manhunt 2, Take Two, Norm Kent, nationalgaynews, gamepolitics, Hitler and the Florida Bar all together in one case.
@Delta:

That's not what the court's telling Jack. The court's telling Jack that federal courts don't meddle in the legitimate affairs of state courts unless there's a really good reason to do so and, because Jack hasn't presented any of those really good reasons, the court isn't going to meddle.
@DarkTetsuya:

10 achievement points.
@ Matthew

Sounds about right. They give 15 points for becoming a Specter in Mass Effect which is a story driven event. Could probably sum up jackie's 30 years of law with about 145 points total.
@Benji:
"No more representing the families of those slain in murders that may have been game related."
You should say "No representing the families of those slain in murders which he himself has judged to be game related, and then informed the family, telling them that some corporation is responsible for their bereavement and they could get money."

@JDKJ:
"I do suspect he’ll soon be nostalgic for the days when he advised presidential candidates and drafted bills for state legislators."

I'm not so sure I would be nostalgic for those days, given that even now, the candidates have no time for him, and all of his bills have been defeated. That would be like a man being nostalgic about the day he got into a car which then crashed.
Personally I hope jack gets off (with at most some very harsh
warning).

With enemies like this who needs friends :P Jack has helped
set more legal precendent and his antics have made more
friends for the games industry. And as long as he is our main
'enemy' only good can come from it because he can't do anything
right.

If he is removed, he will just be replaced, most likely by someone
mush saner and smarter (god knows there can't be anyone
crazier and stupider out there) than he is. Someone who can
probably do some actual damage.

And also the replacment probably wont be so amusing.

But still, seeing him disbarred will be satisfying.

-Twixn
Why does he need to be replaced? It's not like there's a vacuum that needs to be filled. I'm sure another anti-gamer activist will show up eventually but they won't appear just because Jack has gone.
They are already here. Just not as.... rabid as jack. Yee, Lieberman, that Lt Col. whose name eludes me and a few others. Major difference is they seem to be trying to curtail the games due to violent content toward kiddies. Not necessarily a bad thing.
Whereas jackie tried to sue for monitary profit and fame. "Look at ME I am Jack the game maker slayer. Pay me and I will protect you. "
See, this would be an amazing discussion if JT wasn't banned.
@Dog_Welder;
Actually the GP suite was denied W/O prejudice. He also noted that John could file against Dennis at a time of his choosing NOT amended to, or related to the current situation.
Now if they can just ban Jack from practicing (or in his case, fucking up) law, we won't have to hear from this moron ever again until we hear about his funeral.
@jccalhoun:

...that criminally distribute pornography to children.

So when he does it its ok? Nevermind that this particular statement is 100% not true. (But for Jack that's par for the course, so... yeah.)

@jds:

Yeah, beautiful, isn't it?

@Samson Effect

Sad, but true. There's the 'How things work in the world' rulebook, and then there's Jack's rulebook (which consists mainly of 'Do whatever the f*** you want')

@~the1jeffy:

seconded, unless they actually have something to contribute.

@video game time, Twin-Skies:

Yesterday, when threatening another user with a lawsuit for... I don't remember. But it obviously had to do with not letting him get away with doing whatever the f*** he wants. And Dennis wouldn't have any of it, so Jack was struck down with the banhammer once more.

@GoodRobotUs:

It's like Quagmire says on Family Guy: "You take the venom out of a cobra and what do you got? A belt."
Though it should be noted that is not a statement on the part of the Judge that he believes Jack has a case, all he is saying is that 'regardless of whether there is a case or not, this filing is not the place for it.'.
Sorry, my last post was at Eville1
@ X

I hope you're being sarcastic.

@ GP

Thanks for deleting my prior comment. I SO wanted a delete/edit button on that one.
If he does lose his licence, as noted he will probably lose most of his demand as a speaker... hhmm he will probably write a Book... the story of his life and how the world conspired against him and the gamers were at fault and how GTA was the root of it all.
Jack Lawlmpson, imo.
"If he does lose his licence, as noted he will probably lose most of his demand as a speaker… hhmm he will probably write a Book… the story of his life and how the world conspired against him and the gamers were at fault and how GTA was the root of it all."


Grand Theft Attorney: The Jack Thompson Stories
Not enough time to read all the comments, but I made it to the Inquisitors from Warhammer 40K post by Greg, gotta say that's some of the best gaming ever not to mention the story books.

and JT, I believe the Quake 3 announcer has something to say to you. It goes a little like this "DENIED!", granted I edited the "Quad damage" out, but the denied and the way it is said is just so appropriate for your situation now.

-Ix, will have better stuff to say once I have time to read this in full.
First, on Jordan’s document, correct me if I am wrong, but basically the court is telling Thompson that he needs to wait like a patient little boy for the day of the hearing before he can flail and file motions and appeals.

As has been previously pointed out, his federal suit against the Bar was dismissed because the federal court is not supposed to interfere with pending state trials unless due cause is demonstrated, and JT failed to demonstrate this.

In another twist, the whole 11th Circuit kerfluffle was over JT trying to get a higher federal court to interfere with a lower federal court, essentially because he figured it wouldn't interfere with the state court... which hadn't even started it's trial yet... wrap your head around that one... :)
I predict that if he is:

Disbarred = Will write another book and do lectures. Possibly focus more on anti-gay stuff.

Not-Disbarred but Restricted = Focus on becoming a talking head for Fox.

No Penalties = He will open the floodgates and sue like crazy. In fact, he would interpret it as validation which would feed his Narcissistic Personality Disorder big time.
Soo... Discussion of Partying aside, anyone up for sending Judge jordan a basket of cookies after it's all over? :D
Glad to hear the good new Dennis, keep up the awesome work on here!! Remember we are all behind you 100%.

The other bits were not really a shocker. The emergency request made me laugh, and I really needed a good laugh today.

As for the 26th, I guess we will have to wait and see....its not looking good for his career, though he brought this on himself. Its strange his extremist actions have given him the spotlight and acess to big named individuals, but notice there is absolutely NO support being garnered from any of those folks for his defense? This should tell him something.
Holy crap. Did anyone notice that JT tried to liken the Bar's case against him to that of Hitler revocating law licenses? I also like how he tried to link the arrest of 5 students trespassing in school to the case.

No wonder the Bar thinks he may be insane.
WOAH! Jack Thompson STRUCK DOWN IN THE MUD!!!!!! There, JT, take one for the team, why don't ya?

Ryan out.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah. Feeling a tad warm there, John?
So much for that.
Oh well, now it's the bar's turn. And unlike old Jack, they actually know what theiy're doing. This should be fun.
@BaronJuJu

Yup, he basically boxed himself in, he could have had a lot of allies, including AG's and politicians had he not driven them all away. Personally, I still think the best one is when he accused the AG of Louisiana of phoning him whilst drunk and calling him a 'shyster' (I think that was the term).

I love that one because it's hilarious regardless of whether it happened or not.
Wonder what's Jack's next act of insanity? Or do you all foolishly think that he plans on quitely passing the time between now and the 26th eating turkey and trimming the tree? That's way too much time to not pull at least one last bone-headed stunt.
@JDKJ

Well, since he has apparently taken a fancy to likening himself to Jesus, I think if he is disbarred he just may nail himself to a cross in front of the Florida Supreme Court.
Wouldn't surprise me if he announces his retirement just before the Bar take his license so technically he hasn't lost his license; he's given it up voluntarily.
@BaronJuJu

LOL!!
I suspect we will see some last minute stunt, but I suspect it will be more oriented around grabbing some headlines than anything involving his career. The reason I think that is because, regardless of what happens on Monday, Jack will want people looking at him. If he gets disbarred, he wants to project the Martyr image, and if he gets away with a fine or the like, he'll want to reel that out as some kind of 'victory', which means having an audience to declare victory to.

Expect either a flurry of filings for various offences against just about everyone in the gaming industry, or expect a single larger stunt like him standing outside the Florida Courthouse with a 'Save the First Amendment' placard or the like ;)
oops.

I think I killed the conversation....
You might well have.
Damn, GP quick on the draw! It came down before I could get through reading it!
You know, can't a video game company such as Rockstar bring charges against Thompson for libel for constantly using the term "marketing pornography to minors". He keeps stating that with no evidence of either the marketing, nor of it being pornography. Constantly stating something that for years has been unable to prove seems rather shady to me.
@ Erik

Excellent point!
Because, despite what Jack would have us believe, proving a case of libel is not easy. And, unless you're suing a defendant with bottomless pockets from which you can extract a mega-million dollar judgment like News Corp or Time-Warner, usually not worth the time and money.
Forgot to mention this earlier, I love the whole equating himself with Jesus and all. Isn't pretending to be Jesus a big no-no for Christians? Just don't drink the kool-aid at his house.
@ Those who see JT still being a threat w/o a license

JT will still be around, but his influence will be drastically reduced. TV appearances? Gone. Helping draft bills? Gone. Bottom line for me on this is that he'd have to find a lawyer willing to do what he did, and they won't do that because they'd be disbarred like ol' JT.

@ Those who hope he remains so nobody with more sanity takes up his cause

Nobody with more sanity WOULD take up his cause - that's the key thing here: Only JT is insane enough to see the things he does. If someone else were to try JT's anti-gamer crusade, they'd have to be as hopelessly deluded as JT, which really brings us back to square one.
@Mnementh2230

Wow, I just wish I could write like that. EXCELLENT point!
@matriculated

a porsecuter tried that once the judge basically said "you cant quit im going to fire you" i think it would happen here
Wonder how fares the lawsuit most recently filed by Jack against Best Buy? Wonder how Jack finds any time away from being a defendant in which to be a plaintiff? Wonder how he keeps track of all the lawsuits? He must have some fancy software that can track 1,000 different lawsuits, state and federal, simultaneously. Either that or he's got his 12 disciples putting in overtime, working around the clock. If so, he owes them a supper for all that "above and beyond call of duty" work.
Anyone else notice this in the dismissal?

"...denied discovery for ... filed complaints against him by Mr. Kent (the alleged illegal use of drugs)"

Thompson was accused of doing illegal drugs? I don't remember reading that anywhere.
@Jim:

Are you sure it wasn't the other way around? Mr. Kent was/is an executive of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML), a fact that Jack's taken and, in his usual stlye, milked.
In these comments, I notice a distinct lack of Pandralisk. What's up with that?
Oh yes, I see what you mean. He's been denied discovery to that alleged violation by Mr. Kent. That makes sense.
Hey, is nobody here FOR Jack Thompson?

(I'm not saying that I am, I was just wondering....)
@ Ryan,

Posters realizing that, again, they haven't got anything more to say since they are preaching to the choir (anti-gamers roaming gaming websites are either rare, either fanatical) and just went by the STFU way since there was nothing much to add.
Just finished reading the laundry list of denials...good lord, they slapped near everything down. I think my favorite part was where they dismissed submissions on the basis that the evidence (recent articles on Manhunt 2, etc.) had nothing to do with the case at hand. Desperate times call for desperate measures, and it appears that Mr. Thompson is tossing out everything he can to keep the ship afloat. Mayhaps the life raft is still around somewhere...however, I have a feeling that he tossed that awhile back.

@Mnementh2230

JT without a license can be just as dangerous, if not moreso, than as with. The license means that he has/had to answer to someone if he overstepped his bounds. With it gone, there is nothing to stop him from creating some psuedo-political organization, which he would be the speaker for, that goes around and truly fires off what he's thinking. Very similar to the LaRouche lot, but he has ties to fox news. I believe he'll become a specialist. They'll call him a "retired" lawyer, or an "activist". They'll brush over hard facts and information...it is, after all, Fair and balanced...in a damaged middle-ear world.
@Ryan L:

You must have us confused with stopkill.com, or jackandgoliath.com, or whatever his site is (not that I care of course)
@ Aonymous & DarkTetsuya

Ah, I see. I didn't think about it that way. I should probably shut up now.

P.S. Does anybody actually know JT's website? That would be helpful in my research! Thanks!
Curious ... Florida Bar Magazine recently did a story on Abstention. Looks like a subversive way to lobby their position and publicize same to all members of the Florida Bar while they were involved in pending litigation regarding the question of Abstention.
@Ryan L:

What the "L" stand for? "Lard?"
Laughman
@Coincidence:

Mr. Thompson's case was so completely without basis or merit as to not likely warrant a lobbying effort by anyone other than Mr. Thompson.
@Ryan

If you have read some of the stuff Mr. Thompson has posted here about gamers...and to a lesser degree their mothers. Well, it's like walking into a biker bar, and telling them all that they smell funny and wear pink. Even if you make it out alive, you will not be appreciated in their company ever again. So, while there might be someone for Jack, they might lay low, they might play devil's advocate. Personally. It is suppose to be over in five days time, but I won't hold my breath. I have a sneaking suspicion that something is going to bite the collective that wants him gone in the ass. Some saving grace. The world is just F@#$ed up enough for that to happen. So, until the ink drys on the cert saying he's lost his license, I'm waiting to crack open the champange.
Hey, can't you read the sign?

No lawsuit! Denied!
@Coincidence,

To be honest, without statistics on how many litigation cases involving abstention the Florida Bar has each year, it would be hard to say, after all, Journals and the like tend to state positions on situations that are frequently encountered so that matters are clarified, I would have thought there little point in establishing over-arching positions on 'once in a lifetime' type occurrences?
@Ghostcoins:

Well there's JT fanboi, but no one cares what he thinks either, so it all works out.
@Ghost Coins

Thanks for the tips.
@ DarkTetsuya,

God, for a moment I thought you were calling me the JT fanboi...there was about to be an exchange of words :-P.
LOL
Here's the conclusion to the Florida Bar Journal article on Absention:

Conclusion
Despite the abundance of criticism and drawbacks, the abstention doctrines are essential to the parallel judicial systems in the United States. Abstention is crucial when the interests of the states outweigh the federal adjudication of the matter. To preserve the balance between state and federal sovereignty, the federal courts should continue to abstain from cases to avoid friction between federal and state courts.
The abstention doctrine as it applies to bar proceedings has been well-tested (Jack ain't the first attorney to try what he tried) and that it tends to preclude the interference of the federal court is pretty well-settled law -- to the point of not at all being easily disturbed. There's almost no need to lobby for it's continued application, 'cause it don't look to be going nowhere soon.
Game, Set, Match.

Just minutes ago, late on Wednesday afternoon, Judge Jordan also denied the numerous emergency verified urgent :-) requests Mr. Thompson made to stay, postpone, avoid and stop the Florida Bar trial now set for Monday.

And he was also thrown out of the appellate courts in Atlanta.

Nowhere else to go now but to a trial on the merits, jerky jacky.

I wonder if it is open to the public and we will get to see pornographic pictures :-)

I am guessing angina sets in Sunday nite and we get some newer more novel motions to continue, like he can't show up because some gamer has blown out the tires on his car.....

We will see............
@Coincidence:

And that conclusion was also reached by all the federal courts that have considered the issue themselves. Based logically and correctly on the principle of separation of state and federal powers. It's not like the feds think they should be chipping in their two cents and the states have to defend against that usurpation (big word) of power. The feds have made clear that they could care less and it ain't none o' their bizniz. What's to lobby against?
You know what im looking foward too?

Once Jacko is disbarred, hes no longer going to have any real power and his voice will be greatly diminished.

but thats not the best part

If Jack is no longer an important voice... Dennis dosnt have any reason to keep allowing him to post anymore! He can finally be banned and we dont have to have him here attacking us and seeing 20 stories a month about him and his press releases!
Uh Murry, he was banned last week.
Is it just me or do I sense that everyone sees a conspiracy in everything?
@Mattie

LOL
This is the start of the whole situation comming full circle. Once Wacko Jacko is disbared, then he looks like the old crank he is, and will be nothing more than another right wing fringe activist that only morons take seriously (which is the case now but anyways)

Once he is barred from practicing law, his credibility pluments (not that it was high to begin with)

Unfortunatally, the right wing nutballs have destroyed any notion of parental responsability and blaming society for their kids going bad will stay around for a while longer. But even a small step is a good one.
Prehaps when Jack is disbarred he can become a writer, after all, he seems pretty good at makeing up storys.
@JackDon'tKnowJack

If that's the case then there's probably some secret society behind it. XD
"Jesus had a similar “trial” before Pilate."

That's comedy gold right there.

This kind of drivel does not belong in a legal pleading.
@JDKJ

"Is it just me or do I sense that everyone sees a conspiracy in everything?"

No, its not just you, I have noticed the same thing. If some folks don't get the answers they want to hear they fall back to the "Conspiracy" theory. For them, its almost a sure win as they can make up the all the lies and BS they want and put the burden of proof or proving them wrong on those they accuse. If they are somehow proven worng, then they fold that person/entity into the conspiracy. Its a never ending cycle for them.
@ Ryan L,

I forgot to refresh before flash reading the comments, disregard my post.

Although it still is valid in some way, men, cut out the indignation and pull out the gems!
@Ryan L...

I zapped your ealier comment, which placed you on extremely thin ice here, my friend.
@JackDon'tKnowJack

Whenever something happens which people think is major, they want an equally if not greater cause for it. When it is discovered that there is a simple, small cause with a big effect, this usually results in people constructing conspiracies to make things appear bigger than they actually are.
Notice that Step 1 in Jack's "emergency" filing is to apologize for his filing's circumventing what he knows is the court's regular procedure? That's how you tee your ball up . . . for a slice into the woods.
sweet, JT's so-called career is almost over, now I just need some electronic music and a bottle of Hypnotiq to celebrate.
Sod it. Where's the edit button? I made a typo.
@JDKJ

This is almost like watching a live version of "Liar Liar"

JT: Your honor, I object!
11th Circuit: Why?
JT: Because it's devastating to my case!
11th Circuit: Overruled.
JT: Good call!
So with the latest update, Jack is stuck with going through the ethics trial despite his best efforts. I guess the moral of the story is own up to your behavior early, or eventually you'll be held accountable for it worse than you would have been.
@ BaronJuJu

Liar Liar quote, classic.
@Afecks:

“Jesus had a similar “trial” before Pilate.”

That’s comedy gold right there.

This kind of drivel does not belong in a legal pleading.


Jacko really brings new meaning to the term "legal pleading".
@BaronJuJu:

Sometimes he's just too entertaining. Truth be told, I can't wait to see what's up his sleeve. I hope it involves another court paper with multi-sized-styled-and-colored-fonts and emoticons. Those are always good.
I honestly expect an attempt to appeal to the USSC before this is all through. They ought to love those documents like you described :roll:
@JDKJ

I'm betting on a red 72-font page that reads 'You can't sack me! I'm Jack Thompson B*tch!'
All I have to say is that I think it is rediculous that a man can write "I do this because it is God's will", "I am an agent of the Lord" or similar such comments in legal documents (in this case comparing himself to Jesus) and not be immediately disbarred / banned from filling motions, or what have you. There is nothing wrong with being religious, but to me personal beliefs should stay that way. The way Thompson acts - it's terrorism, and religious fundamentalism - just not the "big explosion" 9/11 or 7/7 type of terrorism, but the more subtle type - the guy is like McCarthy - "You're a gamer [communist], therefore you're an idiot, your opinion is invalid and you're a danger to society".

As a Brit, looking at his actions makes me think the American legal system is a joke.

NB: Yes I am aware that I've called Thompson a terrorist. But fortunatly for me I live in the United Kingdom and thus he has no legal powers over me. However if this will cause GP harm please delete it.
Wow, been a heck of a long time since I posted here. (At least I think so....) Anyhoo! I love karma, don't you Mr. Thompson? Always comes round to bite you in the arse when you're least expecting it! Except you were, and you completely ignored it, and when it got too close you tried this miserable attempt to block it. I saw this coming from last year! That Karma dog sure loves to take his time don't he!
Hope Jack ain't started spending that one million dollars he was asking for or that whether he spent it has a liberal return policy.
Are you still going to sue Jack?
@JDKJ

I don't know exactly how he intends to respond to Judge Jordans denial, but if he manages to get himself another Bar complaint from it, there's a strong possibility I will giggle...
BOOM! Critical hit! Looks like Jacko's career just took a headshot.
@GoodRobotUs:

Jack'll be the one to have them reinstate his referal before this is all over. 'Cause he nevers knows when to let good enough alone and sleeping dogs lie.
@ Bob

Thompson's actions make him no different, IMHO.

In fact, last year on the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, Thompson sent a letter to Take-Two basically admitting that his actions against Take-Two helps the terrorists.

@ BaronJuJu

Two other quotes fits as well:

the high school principal in Billy Madison: What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Walter from The Big Lebowski: Shut the fuck up. You're out of your element.
I just read the whole dismissal. It all comes down to Jack has completely ignore elementary law stuff like filing procedure & jurisdiction, either to make a pain of himself or complete ignorance of the law. I won't hazard a guess which.
@Austin Lewis

"Who really thought that this wouldn’t happen? It’s Jack Thompson."

When I saw "It's Jack Thompson" in that remark of yours, I thought you answered your own question. He's probably the only person on God's green earth to think he wouldn't get turned down.
Judge Jordan has denied Thompson’s request for a stay.

I'm confused, didn't he emergency petition the 11th Circuit for a stay? Or did he petition Judge Jordan for one too?
Notice Jack isn't here getting nasty? Because he realizes he's done. Here he begins his downward spiral.
Both. Jordan denied him on his stay request when, as a neccessary part of dismissing the case, he denied about a gazillion other pending motions Jack'd filed (including Jack's motin to add GP and the ECA). But, of course, Jack then filed a request for a stay with the appeals court. To be denied, no doubt.
Happy to see that JT was denied everything he asked for. I'm now looking forward to see him lose his license to practice law. I almost want to give a "Hooah!"
I was wondering how my day could get any better. This did it.

Happy holidays folks!
"Notice Jack isn’t here getting nasty? Because he realizes he’s done. Here he begins his downward spiral."

Well, no actually. Jack isn't here because Dennis banned him for threatening people.

I don't think Jack's delusion would let him realize that he's finished. Just a few weeks ago he was claiming that he was "winning" as far as the Manhunt 2 situation went. Despite the fact that the game is still, you know, released.
Anyone else think that in order to finally get Jack in Judge Tunis' courtroom for the start of his hearing, the Bar may have to swing by the crib on the day of and pick up and ride him down there themselves? He's just a kickin' and a screamin'. Whoopin' and hollerin'. Clawin' at the walls and draggin' his feet. Anything but go along peacefully to the woodshed. They may end up having to convict him in abstentia. He's just not trying to keep that date, is he?
I'm now waiting for the "Fatality" that is the end of Jack's carrer.
Jack's next stunning legal move? An emergency appeal followed by adding himself as a defendant. You heard it here first, the next ploy will be ole jacko suing himself.
I've got redbulls for sale and popcorn. Come get some this is going to be one hell of a show!

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Andrew Eisen: Just got home from an eight hour recording session at Capitol Records. A lot of fun but damn exhausting.
Posted 11/22/09 at 08:44pm
BearDogg-X: 10 N. O. Who Dat?
Posted 11/22/09 at 09:45am
ZippyDSMlee: JD:I think doc phill is still sout about the break up with his wife he dose not fill holes as much as make them bigger these day
Posted 11/22/09 at 12:06am
JDKJ: You should get Phil McCraken to help you spackle those banisters.
Posted 11/21/09 at 11:57pm
ZippyDSMlee: Oh in the pirate hunter article I need my song ieda heckled DS,JD,Beemon sic im !!!
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ZippyDSMlee: JD:no I am tried from prepping the banisters for painting , worked on them from 12 to 4 and 6 to 8...after I got back from the store...got up early got ready...blah...been up all day..I need a nap...
Posted 11/21/09 at 11:42pm
JDKJ: No. You gonna stay up late tonight soldering?
Posted 11/21/09 at 11:41pm
ZippyDSMlee: JDKJ:Don't you mean Mctite?
Posted 11/21/09 at 11:33pm
JDKJ: @Zip: Neil, Bob, and Lik McTaint. The McTaint brothers. LOL!!!
Posted 11/21/09 at 09:44pm
Flamespeak: I still think military personell, killing other military personell, on a military complex should be handled by military courts.
Posted 11/21/09 at 09:43pm
Flamespeak: I could see this a mixture of the two charges rather than just one or the other.
Posted 11/21/09 at 09:43pm
Flamespeak: I think this was mainly a person who snapped, but evidence is showing he definitely had strong inlinations to islamic-extremism.
Posted 11/21/09 at 09:41pm
Flamespeak: People are trying to claim that Hasan's actions were not terrorism. I don't jump on the 'terror train' like others, however
Posted 11/21/09 at 09:38pm
mentor07825: Britain certainly does deserve it! And the French! God damn it, it was a hand ball!!!
Posted 11/21/09 at 09:34pm
ZippyDSMlee: mentor07825:Well Brittan dose deserve it....
Posted 11/21/09 at 09:33pm
ZippyDSMlee: Alyric:I don;t hasliburton having to pay back billoins... don;t you love it when the rich roll over the goverment without a care?
Posted 11/21/09 at 09:32pm
mentor07825: I say we nuke the whales, for the benefit of both mankind and the environment.
Posted 11/21/09 at 09:28pm
Austin_Lewis: I say we try Al Gore too. I always said he was in on the racket.
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