Soldier of Fortune: Payback Gets Un-banned in Australia
Soldier of Fortune: Payback Gets Un-banned in Australia
November 23, 2007
Dropping dismemberment and toning down the gore has apparently saved Soldier of Fortune: Payback's place in the Australian video game market.MyGen reports that the revised game, originally banned in October, has earned an MA15+ rating from Australia's Office Film and Literature Classification (OFLC). MyGen's Mahmoud Afiouni writes:
If you’re wondering what’s missing from the Australian release of Soldier of Fortune: Payback, I have spoken to Activision and I can confirm that dismemberment will skip this release along with scaled down blood effects and rag doll physics.
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Posted 11/08/09 at 01:06am
Austin_Lewis: Yes, and what a piece of crap it was. Arresting and fining people just because they don't make a personal choice to buy healh insurance, creating over a hundred new bureacracies, and worse.
Austin_Lewis: Yes, and what a piece of crap it was. Arresting and fining people just because they don't make a personal choice to buy healh insurance, creating over a hundred new bureacracies, and worse.
Posted 11/08/09 at 12:24am
ZippyDSMlee: JDKJ:the only trouble is a bunch of witless hacks wrote it....its going to be a train wreck....
ZippyDSMlee: JDKJ:the only trouble is a bunch of witless hacks wrote it....its going to be a train wreck....
Posted 11/07/09 at 11:33pm
JDKJ: BREAKING: In a photo-finish at the wire, House passes health care reform bill. Relatedly, in a fit of pique, Austin Lewis kicks innocent dog.
JDKJ: BREAKING: In a photo-finish at the wire, House passes health care reform bill. Relatedly, in a fit of pique, Austin Lewis kicks innocent dog.
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:27pm
ZippyDSMlee: man I got alot of junk and dup files too >< god I need orginization...and no not the knee capping media mafia kind :P
ZippyDSMlee: man I got alot of junk and dup files too >< god I need orginization...and no not the knee capping media mafia kind :P
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:26pm
ZippyDSMlee: replaced :P
ZippyDSMlee: replaced :P
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:23pm
ZippyDSMlee: beemoh:hey its like 60GB porn,400GB anime 100GB games and crap I have took from all my DVDs, I hate waiting on dvds to install stuff..... oh and 40GB of my porn was in the found.000 folder...mostly corrupted.... least I got names of wut needs to be repa
ZippyDSMlee: beemoh:hey its like 60GB porn,400GB anime 100GB games and crap I have took from all my DVDs, I hate waiting on dvds to install stuff..... oh and 40GB of my porn was in the found.000 folder...mostly corrupted.... least I got names of wut needs to be repa
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:18pm
beemoh: @Zip: ...and you'd have to spend all that time re-downloading that porn?
beemoh: @Zip: ...and you'd have to spend all that time re-downloading that porn?
Posted 11/07/09 at 03:34pm
ZippyDSMlee: ggrrrrr......vista lost one of my hard drives and I had a heart attack thinking I lost 1TB of data....
ZippyDSMlee: ggrrrrr......vista lost one of my hard drives and I had a heart attack thinking I lost 1TB of data....
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:58am
JDKJ: Which could be explained by both (a) and (b).
JDKJ: Which could be explained by both (a) and (b).
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:56am
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: You forgot C) the fact that, for some reason, every time he did something that would suggest he shouldn't be in the military, let alone an officer, higher ups ignored it or let it slide.
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: You forgot C) the fact that, for some reason, every time he did something that would suggest he shouldn't be in the military, let alone an officer, higher ups ignored it or let it slide.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:51am
JDKJ: Part of the problem is, I believe, that (a) the Army had a lot of time and money already invested in him and which they were unwilling to simply write-off and (b) an increasing need for the type of skills and services he provided.
JDKJ: Part of the problem is, I believe, that (a) the Army had a lot of time and money already invested in him and which they were unwilling to simply write-off and (b) an increasing need for the type of skills and services he provided.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:48am
JDKJ: And that even if he was begging not to get cut loose, he was apparently a real good candidate for being cut loose, anyway.
JDKJ: And that even if he was begging not to get cut loose, he was apparently a real good candidate for being cut loose, anyway.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:11am
JDKJ: @chada: And while Kennedy once noted that there's usually more than enough blame for everyone to get a slice, the possibility that the Army was unwilling to cut loose someone who was asking to get cut loose could be a factor.
JDKJ: @chada: And while Kennedy once noted that there's usually more than enough blame for everyone to get a slice, the possibility that the Army was unwilling to cut loose someone who was asking to get cut loose could be a factor.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:07am
ZippyDSMlee: *noms on his feet*..nomnomnomnom*droooll* ...wuuutttttt uuu looking at?
ZippyDSMlee: *noms on his feet*..nomnomnomnom*droooll* ...wuuutttttt uuu looking at?
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:05am
JDKJ: I'm no psychologist, but I'm told that crazy people have a tendency to do crazy things.
JDKJ: I'm no psychologist, but I'm told that crazy people have a tendency to do crazy things.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:03am
chadachada321: Whoops, was out of the convo for awhile. I do wonder what type of ammo he used etc, but the real issue is WHY he did it, not HOW
chadachada321: Whoops, was out of the convo for awhile. I do wonder what type of ammo he used etc, but the real issue is WHY he did it, not HOW
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:56am
JDKJ: But if it turns out that they actually did, they'll have Hell to pay.
JDKJ: But if it turns out that they actually did, they'll have Hell to pay.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:45am
JDKJ: And I'd tend to rule out the possibilty of FN Herstal supplying restricted ammunition to someone merely because they're ordering it from a military base.
JDKJ: And I'd tend to rule out the possibilty of FN Herstal supplying restricted ammunition to someone merely because they're ordering it from a military base.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:37am
JDKJ: I know you don't leave your gated community and get around much in dark alleys, so you may be surprised to learn that there's this thing called "the black market" where, if you've got enough money, ain't too much of anything which can't be bought.
JDKJ: I know you don't leave your gated community and get around much in dark alleys, so you may be surprised to learn that there's this thing called "the black market" where, if you've got enough money, ain't too much of anything which can't be bought.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:36am
Austin_Lewis: Or, maybe he or someone else at the base ordered the SS190 from FN Herstal.
Austin_Lewis: Or, maybe he or someone else at the base ordered the SS190 from FN Herstal.
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anyone remembers german Soldier of Fortune: Double Helix?
They thought it would be funny to shoot robots instead of humans, with all kinds of stuff falling instead of blood.
fail.
bible thumping
fascist pigs
valueless and worthless industry
moronic moralists
rapes itself and its customers
Dude, only a "1 Bible Thumping Day"? Certainly you can do better than that.
Can I get an "Amen?"
I can see the other side of that issue
Making the violence less realistic makes it easier to differentiate it from fiction, also kids might be desensitized more if the violence was very realistic.
Not that I agree with that I'm just parroting what I think is their arguments.
That's the kind of thinking that got SoF banned in the first place. If a game is a dismemberment sim above anything else, it kind of scares people.
That would solve the game problems in that little prison colony... Just curios but are they actually trying to not let children of former criminals near violent games becuase they are afraid the kids would revert to their anscestors ways or something????
oh and yes I know australia hasn't been a prison colony for a long time but its still funny to refer to it as such...
Gotta love the way this valueless and worthless industry buckles under the weight of moronic moralists. Who needs censorship when the industry rapes itself and its customers of content?
Has anyone played this game? I have, and it really doesn't hold a candle to Halo, Halo2, Halo3, Call of Duty 1, 2, 3, or 4, BioShock, etc... It is just a bad game, and would have died a quick death if not for the hype.
Benn a way for a while, when I come back pandarish is not only acting like jack, he's starting to sounds exactly like him what with lacing every third word with hatred and hyperbole
your missing the point the industry is far to willing to cave in for alil profit, hell look at Google and Yahoo in china.
I see it more as sucking up to those governments now, and trying to inch further and further to what google/yahoo wants later.
Besides, when it's "my way or you have no way of reaching our billions of people highway," you do what you can.
@ pandralisk
You're officially retarded, coming from a "fellow" non-christian.
@GP
is hate speech a bannable offense?
*rolls eyes*
his rhetoric is no worse than others.
Besides bible thumbing is bad its a book now a club *dodge*
:P
Just for fun, do you think you could possibly do one post without using the terms "bible-thumping" or "rape"? Just curious.
Where is the love?
Internet uncensor patch ftw?
Right now, I like Hillary Clinton better than you.
"Who needs censorship when the industry rapes itself and its customers of content? "
What does that even mean? How do you "rape" something of content?
Could you try to find a different analogy - rape has a specific meaning that I don't like to see belittled.
Besides being off-topic, that's also bollocks.
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2007/11/15/ho-ho.html
I'm not saying the game was specifically about dismemberment, but I do believe the ability to shoot off arms and legs "realistically" (from what I saw it was quite over the top and unbelievable dismemberment) was something that drew people to the franchise.
Raping oneself of content implies lowering a logical unit of content [in this case anatomically correct violence and good physics] that a developer wishes to express. Such an act is typically committed when a developer or publisher witnesses outside forces [a retailer refuses to stock the game; ESRB threatens economic censorship with AO rating] that might hurt the sale of a game and changes their origional design plan to meet "demands" of contemporary moral norms or insane critics of the industry.
Like a sexual deviant taking away the physical autonomy of a human during rape, paticular game developers "rape themselves" when they "rape" certain elements of the game that are purportedly bad for buisness.
We rarely are confronted with true censorship because the industry already censors itself so well.
Rape involves the removal of physical autonomy, true, and censorship involves the removal of artistic autonomy, but it's still a somewhat crude and inappropiate analogy in my view. I know a lot of people throw around the word rape like it means nothing, but I and others generally find it distasteful.
Somehow, though, I don't think you will stop using that analogy because Ed asked you to.
Good luck with that. Both the Liberal and Labor party has stated they are not looking to review the games rating system any time soon. On the other hand,there are a couple of pollies who have given a bit of attention to the games industry:
http://gamepolitics.com/2007/07/07/aussie-govt-called-on-to-get-behind-g...
@Pandralisk:
Church does not play such an important part in politics over here. The vast majority of Australians are atheist. I don't think I've ever heard Howard or Rudd state they were doing something driven by their religious views. Please leave your personal agenda elsewhere.
@aspeaker:
Thanks for the stereotype. In betwen bouts of violent anger and murdering innocent people like the descendant of a criminal that I am, I like to also have my freedom of choice removed over the games I play. /sarcasm I could make stereotypes about America just being a redneck British Colony, but this is not the forum for offensive stereotypes. Pandralisk has that base covered.
:)
That plus Australia should have an AO rating means that the changes to this game are
The game is junk anyway. No weapon recoil, standard FPS crap from 8 years ago with updated graphics and more blood. It was probably better it got banned over here in the first place.. =)
When I got home and read a few reviews, I thought...at least I can have a bit of fun with the gore. In the Oz release, even that's gone. Blimey...next we'll have some judge telling us what we can or can't watch on TV. If they ban online poker here too, I'm moving to the Uk.
This is one of the worst shooters I have ever purchased. It's kindergartenised piffle with a horrible storyline, bad physics, and nil redeeming features.