In Belgium, Police Ban Urinal-controlled Racing Game

In Belgium, Police Ban Urinal-controlled Racing Game

November 25, 2007
While they maybe fine with gaming with one type of Wii, Belgian gendarmes clearly have issues with the other.

As reported by Engadget, Place to Pee, a driving game controlled via urination, has been given the chop by police in Gent. The game was on display at the GamePower Expo, but cops there ultimately found it indecent.

Ironically, Place to Pee contains an anti-drunk driving message which you'd think authorities might find redeeming.

GP: We're a bit behind the curve on this story, but it's important to me that GamePolitics be a comprehensive, searchable record of all things politically related to gaming, so...

Comments

Indecent? Why the hell is this considered indecent?
This goes in the category of "What were they on when they made this game?" That doesn't make any sense.
Too bad you can only play it for about 10-15 seconds at most.
Yeah, I think loading times would kind of kill the game anyway...
This guy would be tough to beat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-5rGYOhGW0
And Nintendo thought they had cornered the market on unique controller ideas.
Ther'es probably another reason why this game is banned.

I'll bet the toilets would be unbeareable due to that game thanks to players who "miss their targets"
I...I...Um...points for innovation, I...guess, but...morbid curiosity dictates that I ask if it lets you post your high score.
They should put this in bar restrooms. Give people an incentive to aim right.
I am completely indifferent about this, but I have to ask whether or not local law enforcement is getting dumber or they have to much time on their hands.
Umm...I don't think this is something meant for the home like you're all so convinced about. Its just a little something to pass that 10 seconds by at a bar or something. Some places have newpapers on the wall at eye level some have games?
Dude, i just ATE, man. XD
Oh God, I just had thoughts of Tetris for the stalls!

:O

Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
Wow, just wow.
...I...I...what, no. A game shouldn't require one to drop their drawers.
Just from the Engadget coverage of the game, I was trying to reverse engineer the game play in my mind. What I came up with was this:

What I know:
The game plays on a screen at eye level above the urinal.
The game is a racing game.
The urinal has a pad in it that registers the "stream" of input.

What I theorize:
The steadier the stream on the pad the straighter the car drives on the track.
The more varied the stream, the more the car swerves and veers off its course.
The game then judges the motions of the car to determine what anti-drunk driving message to give the player (if he is not too drunk to comprehend it)

After considering this, I think the game is a great idea and should not have been given this ban.
.....................I got nothing.
For the inventors of french fires, the Belgians are rather humorless.
I take Lasix. Built in Nitro. :)

Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
I think both were stupid: A game where you pee to play, and then a ban on a game where you pee to play.

It'd be interesting to keep you occupied if you get bored extremely quickly, but why on earth would there be a ban on it? Are they afraid the screen might be stolen, or (god forbid) the controllers? Who'd want a peed on pad? You'd literally have to CREATE the fetish for it to exist! Do they think people would be more tempted to crap on them? Seriously, what other problems could be posed? A dog eating the controller? (Dogs aren't allowed in restaurants, let alone the bathrooms) It's absolutely mind-boggling that there is some problem with this for it to be banned! Granted it's a stupid idea in the first place, but hey, let them do whatever the hell they want with their money!
Don't the Belgian police have anything better to do?
Now there's a rare sight.

Seriously, I never thought I'd see this in a lifetime.
Enter the 'Weemote'! LAWL

I'm still laughing my ass off over that.

- Warren Lewis
ummmmmmm. uhh..... hmmmmmmm...........

I got nothin either.
Indecency died when Eve ate the forbidden fruit, oy. Wait, that doesn't make sense, does it? Indecency never killed people did it. Only scarred some kids for life. And I don't think THIS does what was last stated.
*twitch*

Wow. I... wow.
I think this was more a case of people "demoing" the game on the show floor... >.> I don't think anyone needs to see that...
I got three letters to sum up this article: WTF?
Well it beats newspaper above the urinals
My well thought out and appropriately formulated response:

BWUH?! O.o;;
What in the hell, how could this game possibly have a bad effect?
I'll think I'll file this under "Stories so strange,they have to be true".
man that pisses me off.
Urine my base killin my doodz.
They could make a good firefighter game out of this.
Article: Funny
Comments: Funnier
Just too fucking funny for words.
Wow, i have never noticed this on the news sites, from my country. Myself don't see why they need to ban it. o.O indeed this is one of the strangest story's. You can place it in a special category. And one of them also is 'Hey, Jack… You Want Fries With That'?

http://gamepolitics.com/2007/05/08/hey-jack-you-want-fries-with-that/

I love our French Fries and chocolat
ooh well :)
Laugh.Out.Load.
Neat idea considering it would keep them aiming into the urinal.
Come on people is it any worse over the talking hot woman voice urinal cakes?


What this is is a way to grind in the message about Drinking and driving its a message that needs to be shocked into some, while this is more humorous or in slight bad taste the message out wighs any embarrassment(moralistic or otherwise) wrought.
Indecency? in my Europe? HA! those muslims are really making an effect in there... Europe, enjoy your muslims and massive uncontrolled immigration in general.
DarrelBT Says:

November 25th, 2007 at 5:48 pm
Ther’es probably another reason why this game is banned.---

there's more to it for sure, there's no such thing as indecency in Europe, this is the sort of thing i would expect from the U.S not Belgium. we need more info...
That coming from a country that has a freaking statue of a little boy taking a piss.
@Mudclip.

My hunch is that the game could be perceived as making toilets as shitholes since the more people play it, the more people will "MISS the mark", if you know what I mean.

Heck, I know this game won't be popular in my country, Malaysia. Heck, our public toilets are pretty much rooms filled with radioactive wastes. Yes they're THAT bad. So bad, that our local politcal cartoonist made a joke about how America made a horror movie about them.
I did just think of another reason that it might be banned... maybe they don't like the false sense of "I can drive" it'll give drunk people?

The only safe way to drink and drive, is to not drink.. the only legal way, is to stay below the limit. If this game were around, how many idiots would say to themselves "well, this game says I can drive!".
????....... thats all i got to say.
The urinal thing could be odd, but I'd go for one in the stalls.
Some kind of game.
For when the bowel movements come forth and you have nothing to do.
Maybe Grand Theft Toilet Bowl or something...
That would make public restrooms way more exciting.

I guess women would be annoyed because they can't play it...well, most women.
I thought they had a better cost effective method for keeping people to aim at the toilets with the fly mark.

If I can find that image, I'd post it. Basically, there's a urinal with a painting of a fly on it. Due to this, most people would purposely aim at it to eliminate an annoying fly. They found that more people did indeed try this and there were less messes. This also was in Germany, so it wouldn't be surprising if it also happened in Belgium.
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Urinating is serious business, NEVER a game.

The whole idea is repulsive: getting rewarded for urinating. This is the most indecent idea since Toilet targets for burgeoning toilet users. Research done by the ADA has PROVEN beyond a shadow of a doubt that games are more harmfu and addictingl than Crack, Cocain, or just plain ol' Coke. Just imagine if today's youth got addicted and immersed in this putrid potty play. After hours of brain degenerating simulation, the gamer will go out in the real world and try to drive a real car. They're going to be in gaming mode, and you know what will happen? An accident unlike what we our Gamepolitics is preprared to handle.

Govern yourself accordingly, Pee isn't funny
*we or Gamepolitics

Unlike Dennis, I admit and amend mistakes.
Oooookay. Nope, I got nothing. This is just too strange to put into words.
@Scuzz McTuzz

Uhh7uh. Condescending toward gamers, a potshot at Dennis, again. Ok Thompson, you can stop pretending.

And if I am wrong I will accept a correction from Dennis himself at least.
And I was about to say, this is not a new idea,at least the idea of a urinal game isn't.

I read about another bar where the owner installed a paddle wheel system in the drainpipes of the urinals in the bathroom, and the more it spun the further a row of lights got. I think it's a neat idea. A light system was also installed in the main bar area so others could watch.

However I do understand the idea that it might make some drunken idiots go "Oh, I'm ok to drive" thus creating a drunk driving problem.

Damn weird idea still.
Kurisu, It's a little thing called SARCASM.

Heck, look at the post about how he calls Games more harmful than drugs.

The real JT would NEVER say they're worse than drugs.

C'mon, the sarcasm is so thick you can cut it with a knife? Have we reached a point where sarcasm will label you as "in cahoots with JT"?
@DarrelBT

Eh, my humble apologies. Hard to tell since text has no tone of voice.

And you're right, JT woudlsay they're AS bad as drugs :P
I think it is sadder that being in cohoots with Jack Thompson just HAS to be sarcasm. Me and Jack Thompson are this.

...You can't see it, but i'm making a hand gesture indicating just how close we are. There's nothing i can type to describe such a symbol
He also uses "proof" from the ADA. I'm not sure if you're familiar with them, but they've done little research in the field of video games.
"…You can’t see it, but i’m making a hand gesture indicating just how close we are. There’s nothing i can type to describe such a symbol"

lol good one.
From what I heard about this game, it also analyzed the pee being... peed on it to determine blood alcohol level of the player and inform him if he was too drunk to drive.

If true, Belgium basically banned a way to keep drunk drivers off the streets.
Jeez, why do they need to *ban* it? That just doesn't make sense to me, there must be more to it.
The idea of this game being indecent probably comes from people's inability to understand gaming and the basic concept of this game residing in bathrooms and not in the bar room.

I guess they don't understand that people whip it out while in the bathroom.
I thought about this all the time since I last posted.

there's really nothing to say about this. you really can't word this one out. we need a poet.
It's not like the game is banned in Belgium. The police just closed down a small demo booth that was placed in the middle of a big gaming expo in Ghent. If they would've put the game in the toilets, nobody would've cared.
...but Manequin Pis is a national icon. WTF??
@That coming from a country that has a freaking statue of a little boy taking a piss.

http://familiepeters.webxpress50plus.nl/upload/138/images/Manneke%20pis....
Like said before, there is no ban against the game itself, it was just banned to be displayed at the expo because the display was indecent.
Oh man, I remember reading this in some Mad Science section of EGM Magazine! The original name was topsPEEd (pun is not so subtle, huh?). This is interactive electronics geekery at its weirdest, and even though it's not in good taste the idea's pretty much like those carnival horse race games with water guns.
[...] Piss Screen, of which we’ve spoken previously, has been shut down at a games show by Belgian police (a little while ago, yes, but news from the urinal gaming scene travels slowly). The game showed up for display at Belgium’s GamePower Expo, in Gent, but once there police believed the game to be “indecent” and had it removed. Despite the whole point of the thing being to discourage/prevent people from drink-driving. Ah well. Looks like it’s back to care-free games of “don’t cross the streams!” for the men of Belgium, then. Urinal game banned by killjoy Belgium police [Engadget, via GamePolitics] [...]
[...] Piss Screen, of which we’ve spoken previously, has been shut down at a games show by Belgian police (a little while ago, yes, but news from the urinal gaming scene travels slowly). The game showed up for display at Belgium’s GamePower Expo, in Gent, but once there police believed the game to be “indecent” and had it removed. Despite the whole point of the thing being to discourage/prevent people from drink-driving. Ah well. Looks like it’s back to care-free games of “don’t cross the streams!” for the men of Belgium, then. Urinal game banned by killjoy Belgium police [Engadget, via GamePolitics] [...]
So what type of games did they make for the Ladies Restroom?

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