MTV's Stephen Totilo writes about the gamers who submitted video questions for tonight's CNN/YouTube Republican Presidential Debate.
In particular, Totilo focuses on 18-year-old Jesse Vetters, whose video inspired nearly two dozen fellow gamers to participate in the debate process by creating game issue-oriented videos of their own. Totilo writes:
Over the summer, Vetters started searching YouTube to see what questions had been asked during the CNN/YouTube Democratic debate. "I saw there was nothing on there about anything I really cared about, video games being the main thing..."
Vetters posted his 39-second question to YouTube... and asked aloud what politicians would do to make sure that games weren't vilified by the government.
Totilo also spoke with Entertainment Consumers Association president Hal Halpin, who, after seeing Vetters' video, decided to encourage others to follow suit by offering a free ECA t-shirt to those who submitted their own videos. Halpin commented:
Whenever I'm dealing with the mainstream media, their vision of gamers is apathetic, uninvolved, don't get out to vote. And here's this high school kid (Vetters) willing to jump into the deep end.
Halpin related an experience which occurred at PAX in August when a gamer approached him with a political question:
He was torn between [Barack] Obama and Hillary [Clinton]... [their position on video games is] the issue that could be a tipping point. I bet other gamers out there feel similarly. And that gave me a whole new perspective on what this could mean.
No one knows whether any of the gamer videos will make the final cut. But plenty of gamers will be watching.
Comments
I don't think we can drag out that stat until its down to 25%.
Remember movies studios pay politicians.
Why do they continue to blame the ESRB when they have a problem with a game?? Don't they known that they can't do anything about it. If you want change you have to ask the companies.
Of course, that will never happen.
Not that I'd speak a word to support Pandralisk, but Mormons are technically a form of Christian.
And honestly, I don't expect the gamer issue to matter much in the general election or even the primaries, largely because most politicians either support legislation or don't talk about it. (Has anyone but Brownbeck on the Republican side even brought up the issue?) The fact remains that terrorism, Iraq, taxes, and the economy are far more important issues and will probably decide most people's votes. (Besides, as long as the courts keep striking game legislation down, I don't think we have anything to worry about.)
I thought you were warned not to get your hatred of christianity into a topic again?
BUT, that simply means it's time to find a new outlet. Obviously, the net alone isn't working enough. Pump it up. More e-mails to Senators, to the candidates, if you have multiple e-mail addresses and a little free time send two or three messages to one person with different words but the same meaning and a different name at the bottom. Most likely, we'll get form replies.
But there's the chance that we'll see something positive.
As gamers, it's time to make ourselves more noticed. One of the questions tonight came from a group called the Log Cabin Republicans. They're known, because they have controversy despite how small they are. For those of you who don't know, it's a group of gay Republicans.
If we got every gamer of voting age together, regardless of partisan preferences, we'd outnumber a lot of minority-vote groups that are getting more sway than we are. Hell, I saw a question from the Mars Group or some such organization. How much support can they really give?
Now, imagine what we could do.
Go to Microsoft. Go to Sony and Nintendo. Go to EA, Ubisoft, Rockstar, Valve, anyone you can think of who is affected or could be affected by legislation that affects games, and call them on it.
If tobacco companies, soft drink companies, and McDonalds can have lobbyists, why not games? If drinkers, smokers, and people who want to live on Mars can influence decisions made in this country, why not us?
I think I'll e-mail Bush a few times tonight. He is still President for a while, after all. He could use a little good publicity.
~Jesse
If they do include one they will most likely include the one that reinforces the gamer stereotype so that they candidates don't look bad.
Sucks for me. :(
Bad GP. You did not include your disclaimer at the end. ;)
Or at least enough of us are exit polled in some relevant number.
Go outside and shout "violent games are ruining our children!" and you just gained the ears of anyone over the age of 35. But in the end, if your wedge issue opinions don't match up with their's, then you lost their vote.
Personally. I don't see the point to electing a republican, I really don't. The years since I started watching current events have taught me nothing if not bipartisan bills are an endangered species. Politicians CANNOT get along. If we want a government that gets a dang thing done we can't elect a majority congress of one party and a president from another.
I agree. When government comes to "Since this was not proposed by my party I won't support it" you really get nothing done.
Personally, I think that we need a more mixed government. Not just between Dems and Reps but plenty of other so called "third parties"
But you really have to look at it this way too. The president has something like a 25% approval rating. Congress has almost the same. The President is Rep and congress is mostly Dem. What does that mean? No one likes what either body is doing.
Just about every retailer has a computer promt for ID when an M rated game is scanned for purchase. IS that not enforcement enough?
The FTC reported that only 42% of underage kids (13-16) were able to buy M rated games. That is down from 65% the previous year.
Compare that to movies. When an R rated movie is scanned for purchase, what happens? the cashier puts it inot a bag and scans the next item.
The FTC reported that 71% of underage kids were able to buy R rated movies.
I am not trying to say "Don't blame us, look at movies." I simply pointing out the fact that we are enforcing the ratings as an industry. It is the individual cashiers who simply type in some arbitrary date into the validation field rather than ask for ID. But you cannot blaim the industry for that. That is idividual apathy.
the ESRB is ineffective? what do you propose, then? a government-run regulation committe? why just video games?
the MPAA is a self-goverened body. it's against policy to sell R-rated tickets to minors, but it isn't against the law. why, then, should it be against the law to do the same with video games?
enforcement doesn't begin and end at the cashier, despite what the censors tell you. nor does there need to be a law.
What part of voluntary system do you not understand?
Voting "at least something will get done" is dangerous, especially when you look at this crop of Democrats' ability to flop on the head of a pin for a few extra poll-points. Republicans are litte better - but at least with a D congress and an R President you don't have unneeded sweeping "reform" bills, with 1 billion in Pork Barrel spending tied to it.
Voting should be based on a candidate's legislative record and their views on the issues each voter cares about. And I realize that no one candidate will ever exactly match, but if there were more than 2 party choices, we'd have a real choice. The prentense of choice in recent elections is a farce - R and D are two side of the same Authoritarian coin. Making a choice based on party is the worst way to vote and the real cause of the crap we have for leaders.
Don't misunderstand, allot of folks are basically advocating more then two parties, and I wouldn't have a problem with that. By all means, let's do it. In the meantime though, that's not how it is. 2K8 we'll basically have to make a lesser of two evils choice. (South Park characterized it once as having to choose between a douche and a turd.) We can elect a republican who will most likely fuss and fight with congress for at least another two years, or we can elect a democrat and put up with their clumsy reforms and pork-barrell spending. Given the choice, I'm probably going to vote across parties. (I'm registered Rep.) At least clumsy reform still counts as action.
It is the individual cashiers who simply type in some arbitrary date into the validation field rather than ask for ID.
You have to do that down there? Up here it just prompts "Check customer 18?", and you can hit enter to skip it. It comes up (at Walmart anyway) on M rated games (even though they are 17+), and R rated movies...
Like it's been said before, politicians won't leave games alone until people like us are politicians. I just hope they don't forget their brains when they move to Washington.
Point is - if our goal is to curb pork barrel spending, we can't necessarily assume that electing a republican would help with that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgdBiU7lsek
...I hope they take one of the video game questions, but I kind of doubt they will...
"Politicians won’t take gamers seriously until gamers become politicians."
Or voting citizens? Those don't matter to politicians?
Which would normally be useful for us voters. The problem is almost all of them believe "games= the evil."
Good points, and I'm glad to see you realize R and D have lost all meaning. I'm far more concerned with the trend of Democrats (the front runners for President), that are closet socialists. And true conservatives are few and far between - the current Republicans are big military spending, and for liberal use of the Constitution to enforce their religious views on gay marriage. The Democrats want government healthcare (which quite frankly frightens me), and government controlled media (which scares me). So a conservative person like me, who wants as little Government interference in my life as possible, is left with no one to vote for. In the last Congressional election I voted pretty much split, and wrote in a Green Party candidate for Senate (the damn shiester Democrat won).
I will likely be voting a third party in 2008. However, it's my belief that Hitlery will win.
Questions about game laws are pointless. We know how these superstitious morons feel, and we know that they will never cease their attacks on the freedom of both consumers and the industry as a whole.
Well it would be easier to get that age bracket to vote, if they were taught proper politics during their high school years. Most of the kids that age don't know how politics work. That is why they don't vote.
There is also the fact that many of the issues that politicians pander on about don't interest people of that age. Most politicians only talk about issues that people over 40 are intested in because they have the highest voter turn out.
Terrible spiral isn't it?
That is why I am seriously considering Obama as he is openly taking stances on technological, privacy and government reform.
Christian fascism
deluded value systems
utility of censorship
superstitious morons
Awe... No 'bible thumpers' today. I think you are slipping. Better refill your hate fuel.
Walmart I believe is the execption. They request ID on both. But other stores like Target and Best Buy only require ID on games. I was simply guessing on the typing in the DOB here. I have never experienced it first hand. I don't buy M rated games all to often and not at all in the past couple of years.
Yeah too bad I can't vote in the Democratic Primary or I would vote for him there. But he is the only candidate from either party I would consider.
But I am still keeping an eye out for some good "third party" candidates.
Why aren't gamers worried about censorship that is even worse- like what the FCC does to TV and Radio. Go back to 10 hrs of mindless screen stare and let real thinkers determine what issues are important.
10 hous of mindless screen stare? You mean network TV, right? oR Fox News?
The whole thing'll be terrorists, blah blah, taxes, blah blah, national security, blah blah, school shootings, blah blah, terrorists, blah blah.
If they choose to bring up one of these videos, it will likely be taken entirely out of context.
You forgot,
Create artifical fears about video game terrorism....blah blah blah... More tax cuts (for the top .05% of Americans)... blah blah blah... I'm tougher than my opponents.... blah blah blah...Stupid Hillary and Commie healthcare that would put my lobbyist masters out of buisness...blah blah blah... I love Jesus and families more... blah blah blah... moral decay of evil liberal society... blah blah blah... Be tough on foriegn countries and act unilaterally... blah blah blah... enviroment? Lol... blah blah blah...
Mmmm... Anti-Freedom, Anti-Peace, Anti-Healthcare, Anti-Gay, Anti-Equality, Anti-Middle Class, Anti-Working class, Anti-Enviroment, Anti-Evolution, Anti-Gaming, Anti-Movies, Anti-Any moral system except jesus, Anti-Canidates of Different Races.
Mmmm...
You do realize not all the republican canidates are christian? Last I'd heard Mitt Romney's mormon. Not that it matters, he's still highly unlikely to win, but I do think "anything anything except jesus" is an unfair generalization. Now that I think about it, didn't mass. legalize gay marriage? Geez, why is he even running?
(bows) I happily stand corrected.
Some of the GOP are Jews. And Rudy Giuliani is pro-gay rights.
And I thought you were warned not to coerce me against making valid comments? And not to offer Christianity a soft and cuddling hug -- making immune to objective critcism -- when it is a valid point of discussion?
Watch the debates. Does any canidate NOT ramble on about who loves Jesus more, hates different people the most, and will shove "family" values down the throats of America?
If the weren't just vote-farming, then your arguments would be valid. However, as just about any politician would offer to legalise the eating of babies if they thought it would win more votes than it lost, you really don't have to worry about the christian "conspiracy" (replace christian with games and who do you have?).
After this debate, I am of the assessment that Ron Paul would make a great VP, and if the Republicans would stay out of people's lives as far as marriage and abortion goes, I'd be more inclined to vote their way.
I always though Ron Paul and Romney looked different than they really do, and if I was ron paul I would've said something else in response to mccain.
Oh and I can't believe that the candidates still won't allow gays in the military. "It might force christians to be with people against their principles' is a pathetic argument.
not that they were the majority or anything, but I also notice that there doesn't seem to be any videos chosen filmed by anyone under 21.
I know that the candidates didn't pick the videos, but I do wonder what their belief is in the credibility of someone in their teens caring about politics. I will be voting after all, are they going to assume that I will be a wildcard no matter what? that there's no reason to campaign for my generation?
I think it's because video games are a very minor issue at this point, especially when compared with iraq, immigration, foreign relations, hell even farm subsidies seems more important, since the anti-gaming side isn't very strong nor has the issue gone to a federal level.
Although the mission to mars thing was a little far fetched I guessed.
There was one question by an 18-year-old woman. I forget what it was about, though.
I really wish they would have asked just so morons like Pandalips quit blaming everything Hillary and Yee do on Republicans. Granted, Romney and Huckabee, being the nanny statists that they are, would probably have agreeed. The rest though, no so much.
Hell, two candidates on stage (Thompson and McCain) have recorded votes in the Senate against censoring violent media. Like this motion to kill an amendment banning violent TV at times kids might be watching. An Amendment sponsored by Democrats, and with mostly "liberals" supporting it. Oh, and look, Democratic candidate John Edwards voted against killing it too.
First off, it's Venom, not Veno. Second, WTF are you talking about? Do you even know at this point? Lat thing I recalled is that last time you brought this crap up, Dennis warned you to cut it out. I can give you a link if you want.
the word "gamer" has a connotation of a 16yr old highschool student hiding in their basement playing games all day, yes that has changed as the generations have shifted but to the outside thats the way its still seen
http://www.theesa.com/facts/top_10_facts.php
Correcting my statement of the largest group of gamers is actually in the 18-49 year bracket not the 18 and under. So it looks like the majority of gamers today can vote.
What a weird thing to say. That's a narrow demographic, and most gamers I know are older, younger, not white or not male.
At least that was a Free-Speech question, of sorts.
actually that bill was FOR limiting violent tv to times children are not likely to be 'a substantial portion fo the audience' not a motion to kill it.
Although what surprises me the most is that LIEBERMAN voted against it. Kinda surprising.